Rosellini, J.
The plaintiff was injured when he fell while climbing a ladder which was manufactured by the defendant White Metal Rolling and Stamping Corporation and sold to him by the defendant Fuller Paint Stores, Inc. Contending that the ladder had collapsed under him, he sued these two on the theories, respectively, that the product was negligently designed and manufactured, and that a warranty, of fitness had been breached. The jury before which the case was tried found in favor of both defendants.
On appeal, the plaintiff assigns error to the admission of certain evidence. The first assignment is as follows:
The Court erred in admitting, over objection, testimony that the ladder purchased by Appellant and manufactured by White Metal Rolling and Stamping Corporation met and exceeded the safety standards set up by the American Standards Association for Metal Portable Ladders and erred in admitting, over objection, Exhibit 17 which was a Copy of the American Standard Safety Code for Portable Metal Ladders.
While error is assigned to the admission of exhibit 17, this exhibit was in fact excluded by the trial court. The plaintiff asserts that the “admission and later rejection” of this exhibit constitutes incurable error, but he offers no argument in support of the statement that the error was incurable. Our examination of the record, however, reveals that there was considerable testimony ábout this exhibit and certainly its importance was indelibly im[631]*631planted in the minds of the jury. We will therefore assume that the error, if any, was incurable.
The evidence which went to the jury was testimony of witnesses for the defendant White Metal Rolling and Stamping Corporation describing generally the composition of the American Standards Association and the purpose of the publication of exhibit 17, and declaring that the standards set forth therein were met and exceeded by the defendant manufacturer. The trial court instructed the jury in regard to this testimony as follows:
Evidence was admitted during the trial concerning the American Standard Safety Code for Portable Metal Ladders. You are instructed that this “Code” is not a compilation of rules, regulations or laws of any governmental division and that the provisions of the Code do not have the force or effect of law. Noncompliance or compliance with the provisions of this Code is not of itself either negligence or lack of negligence as a matter of law. You may consider the evidence of the Code only in connection with other evidence bearing upon the question of negligence.
No error having been assigned to the giving of this instruction, it is the law of the case.
According to the law, as stated in the instruction, the code published by the American Standards Association was relevant on the question of negligence, although compliance or noncompliance with it was not in itself determinative of that question. The plaintiff nevertheless contends that this relevant evidence was inadmissible because it was hearsay. He says:
The general objection that is made to safety codes being used in cases of this kind is that such codes express opinions and they are not given under oath with any opportunity for cross-examination. They also deal with the controversial and developing subjects in which opinions over the years may change. In this case, the safety code for ladders that was admitted in evidence was over ten years old at the time of this trial.
The answers to such objections and the criticisms of the general rule of exclusion have been stated by many [632]*632writers1 and are summed up by Professor Wigmore in Ms treatise on Evidence.2 The purpose of the hearsay rule is, basically, to exclude untrustworthy evidence which may prejudice a litigant’s cause or defense. It is the inability to cross-examine the author of a publication, when its contents are offered as proof of a fact in issue, wMch renders the publication objectionable. However, there are many publications which have attributes which, common experience tells us, render them as trustworthy as any evidence given by a witness who has successfully withstood cross-examination.
[633]*633If a publication is produced by persons or groups having special knowledge regarding the subject under discussion, and having no motive to falsify, but having rather every reason to state the facts as they are known to the author or authors, subjecting them to cross-examination would be a superfluous activity. Furthermore, where a publication is produced by a great number of persons, or where one or more of the authors has died, the publication must either be admitted without putting the authors on the witness [634]*634stand, or the valuable evidence contained therein must be lost.
Thus, where evidence of the contents of a publication must be admitted if the relevant and material information contained therein is to be made available to the trier of the facts, and the publication is one which reasonable minds would agree is trustworthy, there appears to be no sound reason why such evidence should be excluded. The purpose of the hearsay rule is not offended by the introduction of such evidence.
The trustworthiness of exhibit 17 was established beyond any reasonable cavil. It was published after thorough research by a special committee assigned to study appropriate standards for construction, care and use of ladders, a subcommittee of which did the research on metal ladders. The personnel of the committee represented interested manufacturers, consumers (represented by such organizations as the American Federation of Labor, the Associated General Contractors of America, the American Association of Railroads, and the International Association of Fire Fighters) , professional groups (such as the American Society of Mechanical Engineers and the American Society of Safety Engineers), associations of insurance companies, agencies (such as the United States Department of Agriculture, the United States Department of Labor, the Bureau of Standards, and the Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers (Liaison)), and the National Safety Council. A total of 23 organizations was represented. If objectivity was not established by this representation of interested parties, the lack of such objectivity could presumably be demonstrated by the plaintiff. He did not seriously challenge it, however, and the trial court should have had no difficulty in deciding that the code was trustworthy. A motive to falsify could hardly survive in such a diversified group; and the pertinent facts on which to base a code of standards were within the knowledge of the participants. This code was promulgated before the facts giving rise to this litigation occurred; and it was not drawn with a view to favoring the position of a manufacturer in this or any other litigation.
[635]*635The other factor which Wigmore mentions, that of necessity, is also present. The code is relevant, and it is material to the manufacturer’s defense, but those who prepared it are not available to testify. The participants are too many in number and too widely scattered. It would be highly impractical, if not impossible, to gather them together to testify at the trial, and it is doubtful if their testimony would add anything to the trustworthiness which is imported by the circumstances under which it was prepared.
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Rosellini, J.
The plaintiff was injured when he fell while climbing a ladder which was manufactured by the defendant White Metal Rolling and Stamping Corporation and sold to him by the defendant Fuller Paint Stores, Inc. Contending that the ladder had collapsed under him, he sued these two on the theories, respectively, that the product was negligently designed and manufactured, and that a warranty, of fitness had been breached. The jury before which the case was tried found in favor of both defendants.
On appeal, the plaintiff assigns error to the admission of certain evidence. The first assignment is as follows:
The Court erred in admitting, over objection, testimony that the ladder purchased by Appellant and manufactured by White Metal Rolling and Stamping Corporation met and exceeded the safety standards set up by the American Standards Association for Metal Portable Ladders and erred in admitting, over objection, Exhibit 17 which was a Copy of the American Standard Safety Code for Portable Metal Ladders.
While error is assigned to the admission of exhibit 17, this exhibit was in fact excluded by the trial court. The plaintiff asserts that the “admission and later rejection” of this exhibit constitutes incurable error, but he offers no argument in support of the statement that the error was incurable. Our examination of the record, however, reveals that there was considerable testimony ábout this exhibit and certainly its importance was indelibly im[631]*631planted in the minds of the jury. We will therefore assume that the error, if any, was incurable.
The evidence which went to the jury was testimony of witnesses for the defendant White Metal Rolling and Stamping Corporation describing generally the composition of the American Standards Association and the purpose of the publication of exhibit 17, and declaring that the standards set forth therein were met and exceeded by the defendant manufacturer. The trial court instructed the jury in regard to this testimony as follows:
Evidence was admitted during the trial concerning the American Standard Safety Code for Portable Metal Ladders. You are instructed that this “Code” is not a compilation of rules, regulations or laws of any governmental division and that the provisions of the Code do not have the force or effect of law. Noncompliance or compliance with the provisions of this Code is not of itself either negligence or lack of negligence as a matter of law. You may consider the evidence of the Code only in connection with other evidence bearing upon the question of negligence.
No error having been assigned to the giving of this instruction, it is the law of the case.
According to the law, as stated in the instruction, the code published by the American Standards Association was relevant on the question of negligence, although compliance or noncompliance with it was not in itself determinative of that question. The plaintiff nevertheless contends that this relevant evidence was inadmissible because it was hearsay. He says:
The general objection that is made to safety codes being used in cases of this kind is that such codes express opinions and they are not given under oath with any opportunity for cross-examination. They also deal with the controversial and developing subjects in which opinions over the years may change. In this case, the safety code for ladders that was admitted in evidence was over ten years old at the time of this trial.
The answers to such objections and the criticisms of the general rule of exclusion have been stated by many [632]*632writers1 and are summed up by Professor Wigmore in Ms treatise on Evidence.2 The purpose of the hearsay rule is, basically, to exclude untrustworthy evidence which may prejudice a litigant’s cause or defense. It is the inability to cross-examine the author of a publication, when its contents are offered as proof of a fact in issue, wMch renders the publication objectionable. However, there are many publications which have attributes which, common experience tells us, render them as trustworthy as any evidence given by a witness who has successfully withstood cross-examination.
[633]*633If a publication is produced by persons or groups having special knowledge regarding the subject under discussion, and having no motive to falsify, but having rather every reason to state the facts as they are known to the author or authors, subjecting them to cross-examination would be a superfluous activity. Furthermore, where a publication is produced by a great number of persons, or where one or more of the authors has died, the publication must either be admitted without putting the authors on the witness [634]*634stand, or the valuable evidence contained therein must be lost.
Thus, where evidence of the contents of a publication must be admitted if the relevant and material information contained therein is to be made available to the trier of the facts, and the publication is one which reasonable minds would agree is trustworthy, there appears to be no sound reason why such evidence should be excluded. The purpose of the hearsay rule is not offended by the introduction of such evidence.
The trustworthiness of exhibit 17 was established beyond any reasonable cavil. It was published after thorough research by a special committee assigned to study appropriate standards for construction, care and use of ladders, a subcommittee of which did the research on metal ladders. The personnel of the committee represented interested manufacturers, consumers (represented by such organizations as the American Federation of Labor, the Associated General Contractors of America, the American Association of Railroads, and the International Association of Fire Fighters) , professional groups (such as the American Society of Mechanical Engineers and the American Society of Safety Engineers), associations of insurance companies, agencies (such as the United States Department of Agriculture, the United States Department of Labor, the Bureau of Standards, and the Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers (Liaison)), and the National Safety Council. A total of 23 organizations was represented. If objectivity was not established by this representation of interested parties, the lack of such objectivity could presumably be demonstrated by the plaintiff. He did not seriously challenge it, however, and the trial court should have had no difficulty in deciding that the code was trustworthy. A motive to falsify could hardly survive in such a diversified group; and the pertinent facts on which to base a code of standards were within the knowledge of the participants. This code was promulgated before the facts giving rise to this litigation occurred; and it was not drawn with a view to favoring the position of a manufacturer in this or any other litigation.
[635]*635The other factor which Wigmore mentions, that of necessity, is also present. The code is relevant, and it is material to the manufacturer’s defense, but those who prepared it are not available to testify. The participants are too many in number and too widely scattered. It would be highly impractical, if not impossible, to gather them together to testify at the trial, and it is doubtful if their testimony would add anything to the trustworthiness which is imported by the circumstances under which it was prepared. It is not suggested that the code offered in evidence was a forgery. Thus the elements of trustworthiness and necessity, which form the basis for any exception to the hearsay rule, are present.
However, the plaintiff says that a code of this type is open to criticism because it represents a mere expression of opinion upon a controversial and developing subject on which opinions may change over the years. The fact that scientific knowledge on a particular subject may not be complete is no reason to exclude evidence of whatever knowledge may be available. Otherwise, expert opinions on scientific matters would never be admissible. And the fact that a witness may not be informed as to the latest developments will affect the weight to be accorded the expert’s testimony or the particular publication offered, but it does not render the evidence altogether irrelevant or incompetent.3
[636]*636The validity of this approach to'the question- is illustrated in the circumstances of this case. While the plaintiff points a finger of accusation at all safety codes, as being mere expressions of opinion and not necessarily reflecting current opinion, he offers no evidence that the code in question does not represent the latest and best thinking on the subject [637]*637which it covers. He does say that the code was 10 years old at the time of the trial of this case; however, the date of its relevance was the date of manufacture, or at the latest, the date the ladder was placed in the stream of commerce, and that date was prior to December 30, 1962, when the plaintiff purchased the ladder. Thus the code, which was published October 4, 1956, was little more than 6 years old at the time. For aught that is shown by the récord, it is still the accepted code, and there is nothing in the evidence to indicate that the code is outmoded (unless the testimony by the plaintiff’s expert, that to his “designer’s eye” the two front legs of the ladder in question looked inadequate, could be thus characterized).
Conceding therefore that the code is an expression of opinions of a group of experts, those opinions are relevant on the question of whether the defendant manufacturer properly designed and manufactured the article in question; and if they were not the latest and best opinions on the subject, that fact could have been brought out by the plaintiff, either on cross-examination of the witnesses who testified about the code, or by introducing his own evidence on the matter.
Nor do we think that the'fact that the code has not been enacted into law renders it valueless. It is true that were it contained in an applicable statute, compliance with it would at least create a presumption of due care,4 but the fact that it has not been given the force of law does not mean that evidence that the defendant manufacturer complied with it carries no weight at all. The trial court properly instructed the jury that it should determine the weight to be given to the testimony concerning compliance with the standards set forth in this code.
It should be noted that our cases are not in complete accord on the question of the admissibility of evidence of [638]*638safety standards of this type. In 75 A.L.R.2d 783, the annotator places this court among the minority in approving the admitting in evidence of standards designed to have the force of law, but not applicable in the particular legal circumstances, a minority position of which the annotator approves. The case cited is Hanson v. Columbia & P. S. R.R., 75 Wash. 342, 134 Pac. 1058 (1913). Recovery was sought in that action for the death of a switchman resulting from a failure to provide reasonably safe equipment on a railroad car. This court held that the trial judge did not err in admitting in evidence a plate illustrating the distribution of handholds, grabirons, ladders, and stirrups upon cars according to the standards prescribed by the Interstate Commerce Commission, although the action was not brought under the Federal Liability Act, since the plate was admitted only to illustrate testimony of witnesses as to what were the usual and reasonably adequate safety appliances.
However, in the case of Hartman v. Port of Seattle, 63 Wn.2d 879, 389 P.2d 669 (1964), we cited the general rule that evidence of codes or standards of safety issued by governmental bodies as advisory material, but not having the force of law, is not admissible on the issue of negligence. No note was taken of the fact that this rule has been severely criticized. This court did observe, however, that evidence concerning the standards in question (contained in the Electrical Workers’ Safety Code) was introduced through testimony of witnesses and held that the exclusion of the code was not prejudicial error. That case, therefore, does not embody a direct holding that codes of this type are inadmissible and in particular it does not deny their relevance.
However, in the recent case of Valley Land Office, Inc. v. O’Grady, 72 Wn.2d 247, 432 P.2d 850 (1967), this court stated that it had held in the Hartman case that evidence of governmental codes or standards of safety, issued as advisory material not having force of law, is not admissible on the issue of negligence. The merits of the question were not discussed in that case. *
[639]*639In the case of Grant v. Libby, McNeill & Libby, 160 Wash. 138, 295 Pac. 139 (1931), this court held that the trial court did not err in excluding a copy of the National Electrical Code, which referred to varieties of electrical installation other than the one with which the case was concerned. This case and Hanson v. Columbia & P. S. R.R., supra, were cited by the court in Hartman v. Port of Seattle, supra, not as authority for the general rule, but as being worthy of comparison. In the Hanson case, of course, the offered evidence was held admissible.
The only authority cited for the rule stated in Hartman v. Port of Seattle, supra, was Mississippi Power & Light Co. v. Whitescarver, 68 F.2d 928 (5th Cir. 1934). In 1961, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, in admitting a newspaper clipping showing the date of a fire, said that under Rule 43 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure the trial judge has discretion to admit relevant and material hearsay if it is necessary and trustworthy. Dallas Cy. v. Commercial Union Assurance Co., 286 F.2d 388 (5th Cir. 1961).
It is questionable, therefore, whether the court which decided the case relied upon for the proposition stated in Hartman v. Port of Seattle, supra, would endorse that proposition today.
In another of our early cases, Schotis v. North Coast Stevedoring Co., 163 Wash. 305, 1 P.2d 221 (1931), it was held that regulations of the United States Department of Commerce applicable to American vessels were inadmissible with reference to a foreign vessel. Again, as in Grant v. Libby, McNeill & Libby, supra, the proffered evidence failed to pass the test of relevancy.
This court has, of course, followed the majority in holding admissible mortality tables, offered for the purpose of showing life expectancy. Bradshaw v. Seattle, 43 Wn.2d 766, 264 P.2d 265 (1953). Also in Cherry Point Fish. Co. v. Nelson, 25 Wash. 558, 66 Pac. 55 (1901), United States tide tables, prepared by the government for the use of navigators on the waters of Puget Sound, were held admissible in evidence to determine the depth of the location of a [640]*640pound net below low tide in those waters in a suit to restrain its maintenance.
On the subject of mortality tables, Professor Wigmore points out5 that these tables have been held admissible out of practical necessity, although the rule excluding learned treatises, if consistently applied, would exclude these also. Furthermore, as he points out, they are based upon mere probabilities and working averages, and do not have the dignity of other collections of data which are more conscientiously and expertly compiled but which are excluded as unreliable. The error is- not in admitting mortality tables but in misconstruing the true qualities of other scientific publications.
The case of Sage v. Northern Pac. Ry., 62 Wn.2d 6, 380 P.2d 856 (1963), was not cited by the court in Hartman v. Port of Seattle, supra. In that case we held, without discussion of the question, that the trial court did not err in admitting' in evidence a booklet issued by the National Safety Council, which concerned safety standards for the carriage of loose equipment in vehicles such as a carryall, and that such evidence would be admissible on a new trial.
And in Vogel v. Alaska S.S. Co., 69 Wn.2d 497, 502, 419 P.2d 141 (1966), we held that a federal regulation defining standards of seaworthiness of a ship was admissible in evidence on the issue of negligence of a shipowner, sued by a nonemployee, even though by its terms the act did not govern the liability of the shipowner in an action by a nonemployee. Quoting from Provenza v. American Export Lines, Inc., 324 F.2d 660 (4th Cir, 1963) cert. denied 376 U. S. 952, 11 L. Ed. 2d 971, 84 Sup. Ct. 970 (1964), we said:
The owner’s duty does,not stem from the regulation, but the regulation may be shciwn just like other evidence to indicate that a certain practice is safe or unsafe. While such evidence is not conclusive, it is relevant.
While we stated there that the rule was applicable because of the unique doctrine of a claim of unseaworthiness, and the holding was not to be regarded as conflicting with [641]*641Hartman v. Port of Seattle, supra, we are now of the opinion that this rule of admissibility should be extended to include safety codes issued by private bodies, which have the relevance and trustworthiness of the code which was offered in this action. The preliminary decision of whether a particular document meets the test of relevancy, trustworthiness, and necessity is for the trial judge. The weight to be attached to it is for the trier of the facts.
As we have indicated, this rule is not out of harmony with our previous decisions, with the exception of Valley Land Office, Inc. v. O’Grady, supra. The language in Hartman v. Port of Seattle, supra, which suggests that we follow what has been the majority rule in this jurisdiction, is at best dictum. Furthermore, in that case the question of trustworthiness was not discussed, nor were the merits of the particular publication, insofar as its relevance and authoritativeness were concerned. The holding of the case was that, since evidence of the standards was presented to the jury, the plaintiff was not prejudiced by the exclusion of the publication. Insofar as they stand for the proposition that evidence of governmental standards or standards published by private bodies, which do not have the force of law but which are relevant, trustworthy and necessary to prove the matter contained therein, is inadmissible, Valley Land Office, Inc. v. O’Grady, supra, and Hartman v. Port of Seattle, supra, are hereby overruled.
The second assignment of error pertains to the admission of testimony concerning tests performed by the defendants’ expert witness. This witness had tested a ladder of the same kind as that purchased by the plaintiff, under various weights, in various positions to determine the conditions under which it would fall. Although the witness placed the ladder in a number of different positions during the experiments, he was not certain that the exact position of the ladder at the time of the fall had been simulated. The plaintiff’s expert witness also performed tests in his laboratory for the same purpose of determining the strength of the ladder and did not attempt to simulate the conditions [642]*642existing at the time of the accident. Evidence of these tests was introduced prior to the introduction of evidence by the defendants. Nevertheless, the plaintiff contends it was error to admit the evidence of the defendants’ tests.
It was not the purpose of the tests to show how the accident happened, but to show how it could have happened. This was also the purpose of the tests performed by the plaintiff’s expert. Such evidence is competent and relevant. Any dissimilarity between the conditions under which a test of this kind is performed and those existing at the time of the accident goes to the weight of the evidence and is a matter to be evaluated by the jury. Bichl v. Poinier, 71 Wn.2d 492, 429 P.2d 228 (1967). Furthermore, any objection to this type of evidence which the plaintiff might have had was waived when he introduced evidence of his own tests.
The final contention of the plaintiff is that the trial court erred in permitting the defendants’ expert to testify concerning the properties of metal ladders, and concerning tests he had made. The objection is that the witness was not qualified. The qualifications of an expert are to be judged by the trial court, and its determination will not be set aside in the absence of a showing of an abuse of discretion. Mason v. Bon Marche Corp., 64 Wn.2d 177, 390 P.2d 997 (1964). The evidence showed that the witness had taken his doctor’s degree in physical chemistry and metallurgy; that he had worked with the Canadian Mines Branch and for a number of years with a large industry in reduction and research; that he had taught metallurgical engineering at the University of Washington, and then had become a consultant in the general field of materials and their application and their service behavior. The trial court did not abuse its discretion in permitting him to testify. As the trial court observed, the weight of the witness’s testimony was for the jury to determine.
The judgment is affirmed.
Hill, Finley, Weaver, Hamilton, and McGovern, JJ., concur.