EBEL, Circuit Judge.
This appeal arises out of a claim, based upon Oklahoma law, for wrongful termination of employment in violation of public policy.
See Burk v. K-Mart Corp.,
770 P.2d 24, 28-29 (Okla.1989). Three issues are raised: First, is this state law action a “minor” dispute within the exclusive jurisdiction of an arbitral board under the Railway Labor Act (“RLA”)? Second, does Oklahoma law provide a remedy for wrongful termination in violation of public policy where other remedies are available? Third, does Oklahoma law provide a remedy for wrongful termination in violation of public policy for employees who can only be terminated for “just cause”?
We conclude that this cause of action is not a “minor" dispute under the RLA and, hence, the district court had jurisdiction to decide the case. On the merits, we conclude that Oklahoma would recognize the tort of wrongful termination in violation of public policy even if other remedies are available to the employee and even if he can be terminated only for “just cause.” Accordingly, we reverse the district court’s grant of the Defendant’s motion for judgment notwithstanding the verdict (“JNOV”) and we remand to reinstate the jury verdict.
FACTS
The Plaintiff, Scott Davies, was employed as a mechanic by the Defendant, American Airlines (“American”), in Tulsa, Oklahoma. His employment was governed by the terms of a collective bargaining agreement (“CBA”) between American and the Transport Workers Union (“TWU”), the exclusive bargaining agent for American’s mechanics. Under the CBA, Davies could be discharged only for “just cause.”
Davies sought to change the mechanics’ representation to the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (“AMFA”), a rival of the TWU. To this end, he placed an advertisement in a local newspaper announcing a debate between representatives of the two unions. American approached Davies after the publication of the advertisement and reprimanded him for using the words “American Airlines” in the advertisement without permission from American. According to American, the use of its name in the advertisement erroneously made American appear to be a sponsor of the debate. American’s position was that the advertisement was false, in violation of its Employment Rule 21, and harmful to the welfare of the company, in violation of its Employment Rule 24. When Davies refused to acknowledge his alleged wrongdoing and refused to promise that he would not repeat it, American terminated his employment. In arbitration, it was found that Davies had violated American’s rules and that, therefore, American had “just cause” to discharge him. However, the arbitrator did not address the issue of whether the discharge violated clearly established public policy and therefore was actionable under
Burk.
Prior to the disposition of the arbitration, Davies sued American based upon
Burk,
which provides a right of action to employees who are discharged in violation of public policy. Davies argues that even if he did violate American’s rules, thereby giving American “just cause” to discharge him, American’s actual motivation for the discharge was not to stop his violations of its rules, but rather to stop his unionizing activity. Because public policy supports the right to select union representation, Davies argues, his discharge violated public policy and entitled him to recover under
Burk.
The jury agreed that American was motivated by anti-union animus and returned a verdict in favor of Davies.
American moved for JNOV on three bases. First, American argued, Davies’
Burk
action is a “minor” dispute under the RLA. Because the RLA vests mandatory and ex-
elusive jurisdiction over “minor” disputes in an arbitral board, American argued, the courts are preempted from hearing such disputes. Second, American argued,
Burk
does not provide a cause of action for violation of a public policy which already has a remedy available for enforcement. Third, American argued,
Burk
is limited to “at will” employees and does not provide a cause of action for employees like Davies who can only be discharged for “just cause.” The district court granted JNOV for American based on its last two arguments. Davies appeals that decision.
I. RLA Preemption
Although the district court’s grant of JNOV was not based upon RLA preemption, American continues to urge this argument as a ground for affirmance. RLA preemption is jurisdictional.
See Zimmerman v. Atchison, T. & S.F. Ry.,
888 F.2d 660, 661 (10th Cir.1989) (per curiam). Accordingly, we address this argument first.
The RLA provides an arbitral forum for the resolution of “disputes between an employee ... and a carrier ... growing out of grievances, or out of the interpretation or application of agreements concerning rates of pay, rules, or working conditions.” 45 U.S.C. §§ 153 First (i) & 184.
Such disputes have been characterized as “minor” disputes.
See Andrews v. Louisville & N R.R.,
406 U.S. 320, 321-22, 92 S.Ct. 1562, 1563-64, 32 L.Ed.2d 95 (1972).
In
Andrews,
the Supreme Court held that the arbitral remedy provided under section 153 of the RLA is mandatory and exclusive for “minor” disputes.
Id.
at 322, 325, 92 S.Ct. at 1564, 1565. Thus, if Davies’
Burk
action can be characterized as a “minor” dispute, then the courts generally lack jurisdiction to hear it.
Barnett v. United Air Lines,
738 F.2d 358, 361 (10th Cir.)
cert. denied,
469 U.S. 1087, 105 S.Ct. 594, 83 L.Ed.2d 703 (1984).
The distinction between “major” and . “minor” disputes was elaborated upon in
Consolidated Rail Corp. v. Railway Labor Executives’ Association,
491 U.S. 299, 109 S.Ct. 2477, 105 L.Ed.2d 250 (1989) (“Conrail”). “The distinguishing feature of [a ‘minor’ dispute] is that the dispute may be conclusively resolved-by interpreting the existing [collective bargaining] agreement.”
Id.
at 305, 109 S.Ct. at 2481.
A. The Need for CBA Interpretation
American argues that Davies’
Burk
suit is a “minor” dispute because it requires interpretation of an existing CBA. Specifically, American argues that , its defense to the suit — i.e., that Davies was fired for “just cause” — requires interpretation of the “just cause” provision of the CBA. Thus, American argues, this suit is preempted.
See Andrews,
406 U.S. at 324,
92 S.Ct. at 1565;
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EBEL, Circuit Judge.
This appeal arises out of a claim, based upon Oklahoma law, for wrongful termination of employment in violation of public policy.
See Burk v. K-Mart Corp.,
770 P.2d 24, 28-29 (Okla.1989). Three issues are raised: First, is this state law action a “minor” dispute within the exclusive jurisdiction of an arbitral board under the Railway Labor Act (“RLA”)? Second, does Oklahoma law provide a remedy for wrongful termination in violation of public policy where other remedies are available? Third, does Oklahoma law provide a remedy for wrongful termination in violation of public policy for employees who can only be terminated for “just cause”?
We conclude that this cause of action is not a “minor" dispute under the RLA and, hence, the district court had jurisdiction to decide the case. On the merits, we conclude that Oklahoma would recognize the tort of wrongful termination in violation of public policy even if other remedies are available to the employee and even if he can be terminated only for “just cause.” Accordingly, we reverse the district court’s grant of the Defendant’s motion for judgment notwithstanding the verdict (“JNOV”) and we remand to reinstate the jury verdict.
FACTS
The Plaintiff, Scott Davies, was employed as a mechanic by the Defendant, American Airlines (“American”), in Tulsa, Oklahoma. His employment was governed by the terms of a collective bargaining agreement (“CBA”) between American and the Transport Workers Union (“TWU”), the exclusive bargaining agent for American’s mechanics. Under the CBA, Davies could be discharged only for “just cause.”
Davies sought to change the mechanics’ representation to the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (“AMFA”), a rival of the TWU. To this end, he placed an advertisement in a local newspaper announcing a debate between representatives of the two unions. American approached Davies after the publication of the advertisement and reprimanded him for using the words “American Airlines” in the advertisement without permission from American. According to American, the use of its name in the advertisement erroneously made American appear to be a sponsor of the debate. American’s position was that the advertisement was false, in violation of its Employment Rule 21, and harmful to the welfare of the company, in violation of its Employment Rule 24. When Davies refused to acknowledge his alleged wrongdoing and refused to promise that he would not repeat it, American terminated his employment. In arbitration, it was found that Davies had violated American’s rules and that, therefore, American had “just cause” to discharge him. However, the arbitrator did not address the issue of whether the discharge violated clearly established public policy and therefore was actionable under
Burk.
Prior to the disposition of the arbitration, Davies sued American based upon
Burk,
which provides a right of action to employees who are discharged in violation of public policy. Davies argues that even if he did violate American’s rules, thereby giving American “just cause” to discharge him, American’s actual motivation for the discharge was not to stop his violations of its rules, but rather to stop his unionizing activity. Because public policy supports the right to select union representation, Davies argues, his discharge violated public policy and entitled him to recover under
Burk.
The jury agreed that American was motivated by anti-union animus and returned a verdict in favor of Davies.
American moved for JNOV on three bases. First, American argued, Davies’
Burk
action is a “minor” dispute under the RLA. Because the RLA vests mandatory and ex-
elusive jurisdiction over “minor” disputes in an arbitral board, American argued, the courts are preempted from hearing such disputes. Second, American argued,
Burk
does not provide a cause of action for violation of a public policy which already has a remedy available for enforcement. Third, American argued,
Burk
is limited to “at will” employees and does not provide a cause of action for employees like Davies who can only be discharged for “just cause.” The district court granted JNOV for American based on its last two arguments. Davies appeals that decision.
I. RLA Preemption
Although the district court’s grant of JNOV was not based upon RLA preemption, American continues to urge this argument as a ground for affirmance. RLA preemption is jurisdictional.
See Zimmerman v. Atchison, T. & S.F. Ry.,
888 F.2d 660, 661 (10th Cir.1989) (per curiam). Accordingly, we address this argument first.
The RLA provides an arbitral forum for the resolution of “disputes between an employee ... and a carrier ... growing out of grievances, or out of the interpretation or application of agreements concerning rates of pay, rules, or working conditions.” 45 U.S.C. §§ 153 First (i) & 184.
Such disputes have been characterized as “minor” disputes.
See Andrews v. Louisville & N R.R.,
406 U.S. 320, 321-22, 92 S.Ct. 1562, 1563-64, 32 L.Ed.2d 95 (1972).
In
Andrews,
the Supreme Court held that the arbitral remedy provided under section 153 of the RLA is mandatory and exclusive for “minor” disputes.
Id.
at 322, 325, 92 S.Ct. at 1564, 1565. Thus, if Davies’
Burk
action can be characterized as a “minor” dispute, then the courts generally lack jurisdiction to hear it.
Barnett v. United Air Lines,
738 F.2d 358, 361 (10th Cir.)
cert. denied,
469 U.S. 1087, 105 S.Ct. 594, 83 L.Ed.2d 703 (1984).
The distinction between “major” and . “minor” disputes was elaborated upon in
Consolidated Rail Corp. v. Railway Labor Executives’ Association,
491 U.S. 299, 109 S.Ct. 2477, 105 L.Ed.2d 250 (1989) (“Conrail”). “The distinguishing feature of [a ‘minor’ dispute] is that the dispute may be conclusively resolved-by interpreting the existing [collective bargaining] agreement.”
Id.
at 305, 109 S.Ct. at 2481.
A. The Need for CBA Interpretation
American argues that Davies’
Burk
suit is a “minor” dispute because it requires interpretation of an existing CBA. Specifically, American argues that , its defense to the suit — i.e., that Davies was fired for “just cause” — requires interpretation of the “just cause” provision of the CBA. Thus, American argues, this suit is preempted.
See Andrews,
406 U.S. at 324,
92 S.Ct. at 1565;
Zimmerman,
888 F.2d at 662;
Barnett,
738 F.2d at 361.
However, the Supreme Court rejected such an argument in
Lingle v. Norge Division of Magic Chef, Inc.,
486 U.S. 399, 108 S.Ct. 1877, 100 L.Ed.2d 410 (1988).
Lingle
involved a defense of preemption under section 301 of the Labor Management Relations Act (“LMRA”), 29 U.S.C. § 185. Under the LMRA, like the RLA, preemption occurs “if the resolution of a state-law claim depends upon the meaning of a collective-bargaining agreement."
Lingle,
486 U.S. at 405-06, 108 S.Ct. at 1881.
Lin-gle
involved a plaintiff who alleged she was illegally discharged in retaliation for filing a workers compensation claim. The employer disagreed with that characterization and claimed that the plaintiff was fired for “just cause” under the CBA.
Lingle
held that the plaintiffs retaliatory discharge claim under the state workers compensation laws could be tried without interpreting the CBA. Accordingly, the Court held that the claim was not preempted notwithstanding the fact that “the state-law analysis might well involve attention to the same factual considerations as the contractual determination of whether [the employee] was fired for just cause.”
Id.
at 408, 108 S.Ct. at 1883.
In
Marshall v. TRW, Inc., Reda Pump Division,
900 F.2d 1517 (10th Cir.1990), we faced a similar situation where the plaintiff asserted he had been terminated for filing a workers compensation claim. The employer responded that the plaintiff was terminated for “just cause” under the CBA. The plaintiff responded that the “just cause” reason was pretextual. Applying
Lingle,
we held that a court could determine whether the plaintiff was terminated nt retaliation for a workers compensation filing without interpreting the “just cause” provision of the CBA.
Id.
at 1521. Even if the employee violated the employer’s rules, giving the employer “just cause” to discharge him, the question is whether the employer’s motivation for the discharge was the rule violation or retaliation for an activity protected by the retaliatory discharge law. Accordingly, we held that the claim was not preempted by the LMRA.
Id.
Hence, interpretation of the “just cause” provision of a CBA is not necessary to resolve a retaliatory discharge suit.
Davies’
Burk
suit is essentially a retaliatory discharge suit. The gravamen of his action is that American’s actual or primary motivation in firing him, irrespective of any “just cause” it may have had under the CBA, was to stop his unionizing activity. Thus, we hold, pursuant to
Lingle
and
Marshall,
that Davies’
Burk
action does not require interpretation of the CBA and is therefore not preempted by the RLA on that ground.
American urges that
Lingle,
which dealt with the LMRA, is inapposite in the RLA context. However, we believe that the test articulated by
Lingle
for determining whether a dispute requires CBA interpretation is just as valid under the RLA as it is under the LMRA. At least four circuits have looked to LMRA cases such as
Lingle
to determine whether a claim involved CBA interpretation for purposes of RLA preemption.
See Deford v. Soo Line R.R.,
867 F.2d 1080, 1087 (8th Cir.) (distinguishing
Lingle), cert. denied,
492 U.S. 927, 109 S.Ct. 3265, 106 L.Ed.2d 610 (1989);
Beard v. Carrollton R.R.,
893 F.2d 117, 122 (6th Cir.1989) (same);
McCall v. Chesapeake & Ohio Ry.,
844 F.2d 294, 304 (6th Cir.) (Or
der on Rehearing) (same),
cert. denied,
488 U.S. 879, 109 S.Ct. 196, 102 L.Ed.2d 166 (1988);
Leu v. Norfolk & W.Ry.,
820 F.2d 825, 830 (7th Cir.1987) (The “reasoning [of a
pre-Lingle
LMRA case] is equally applicable to the determination of whether a claim couched in terms of a state tort law actually arises under an RLA collective bargaining agreement.”).
It is true, as the Supreme Court noted in
Andrews,
that RLA preemption is statutory whereas LMRA preemption is contractual. 406 U.S. at 323, 92 S.Ct. at 1564. However, we do not believe that affects the inquiry into whether a claim requires interpretation of a CBA.
B. “Minor” Disputes not Requiring CBA Interpretation: The “Omitted Case”
American next argues that a dispute may be “minor” even where a claim does not require CBA interpretation.
In
Elgin, Joliet & Eastern Railway v. Burley,
325 U.S. 711, 65 S.Ct. 1282, 89 L.Ed. 1886 (1945), the Supreme Court defined a “minor” dispute as one that
relates
either
to the
meaning or proper application of a particular provision [of the CBA]
with reference to a specific situation
or
to an
omitted case.
In the latter event the claim is founded upon some incident of the employment relation, or asserted one, independent of those covered by the collective agreement, e.g., claims on account of personal injuries.
Id.
at 723, 65 S.Ct. at 1290 (emphasis added). American argues that under
Burley
We must consider an “omitted case” — i.e., any claim “founded upon some incident of the employment relation ... independent of ... the collective agreement” — a “minor” dispute, preempted by the RLA.
We disagree with American’s “omitted case” argument for three reasons. First,
Burley,
to the extent that it can be read as holding that disputes not requiring CBA interpretation can be “minor” for preemption purposes,
appears to have been overruled by
Conrail.
The test developed by
Conrail
for whether a dispute is “minor” is limited to whether the dispute requires CBA interpretation.
Conrail,
491 U.S. at 303, 109 S.Ct. at 2480.
Second, it would not make sense to extend RLA preemption to disputes that do not require CBA interpretation. As noted by Judge Posner of the Seventh Circuit, arbitrators have no particular expertise in cases that do not require CBA interpretation; thus “arbitration would have no advantage over adjudication in [such a] case.”
Lancaster v. Norfolk & W. Ry.,
773 F.2d 807, 816 (7th Cir.1985),
cert. denied,
480 U.S. 945, 107 S.Ct. 1602, 94 L.Ed.2d 788 (1987).
Third, to hold that every case “founded upon some incident of the employment relation” was a “minor” dispute would undermine the “major”/“minor” distinction. Virtually every dispute between an employer and its employees, including many disputes that are clearly “major,” can be said to be “founded upon some incident of the employment relation.” For example, it is clear that a dispute arising out of an attempt to secure or change a CBA is a “major” dispute.
Conrail,
491 U.S. at 302, 109 S.Ct. at 2479;
Burley,
325 U.S. at 723, 65 S.Ct. at 1289. However, such a dispute could also be characterized as “founded upon some incident of the employment relation.” Thus, if such cases were considered “minor,” the “major”/“minor” distinction would collapse.
For these reasons, we hold that “minor” disputes, for purposes of RLA preemption, are limited to those that require CBA interpretation.
Because Davies’
Burk
action does not require CBA interpretation, it is not a “minor” dispute, and accordingly it is not preempted from judicial resolution.
At least three other circuits have held that a dispute over an employer’s disciplinary action that is alleged to result from the employer’s wish to interfere with union activity would, if proven, not be “minor.”
See Independent Union of Flight Attendants v. Pan American World Airways, Inc.,
789 F.2d 139, 142 (2d Cir.1986) (per curiam) (“federal judicial intervention [would be] warranted ... where it is clear that the employer’s conduct has ‘been motivated by anti-union animus or ... an attempt to interfere with its employees’ choice of their collective bargaining representative.’ ”) (citation omitted);
Tello v, Soo Line R.R.,
772 F.2d 458, 462 (8th Cir. 1985) (same);
Brotherhood of R.R. Trainmen v. Central of Ga. Ry.,
305 F.2d 605, 609 (5th Cir.1962) (same).
In summary, we hold that Davies’ action is not “minor” and therefore does not fall within the exclusive jurisdiction of the arbitration board. Thus we have jurisdiction to hear Davies’ action.
II. The Availability of
Burk
The district court granted JNOV on two grounds which American continues to urge on appeal. First, the district court held that Oklahoma would not provide a
Burk
remedy where alternative remedies are available. Alternatively, the district court held that Oklahoma would not provide a
Burk
remedy for employees who could be discharged only for “just cause.” We reject both of these conclusions.
A. The Availability of Alternative Remedies
The district court held that Oklahoma law does not provide a remedy for discharge in violation of public policy under
Burk
where the discharged employee has another remedy available. Because Davies has a remedy available under the RLA, the district court held that he cannot maintain a suit under
Burk.
Recently, the Oklahoma Supreme Court laid to rest this question, which had divided federal courts in Oklahoma. In
Tate v. Browning-Ferns,
833 P.2d 1218 (1992), the Court clearly held that a
Burk
action is available notwithstanding the availability of other remedies.
Id.
at 1223.
We therefore hold under
Tate
that Davies can maintain a
Burk
suit notwithstanding the availability of other remedies.
B.
Burk
and “For Cause” Employees
Burk
granted a tort remedy as a “public policy exception to the at-will termination
rule.” 770 P.2d at 28. The district court held that an employee who can be fired only for “just cause” is not terminable “at will,” and therefore cannot avail himself of
Burk’s
remedy. Because Davies could be terminated only for “just cause,” the district court held, he could not sue under
Burk.
The argument to limit
Burk
to “at will” employees is essentially a variant of the argument, addressed above, that
Burk
is unavailable where a discharged employee has an alternate remedy. Because Davies has a contractual remedy under the “just cause” provision of the CBA, American argues, Oklahoma would not grant him another remedy in the form of a
Burk
suit. Rather, American argues, Oklahoma intended
Burk
as a remedy only for those who would otherwise have no protection against discharge. This argument is belied by
Tate,
in which the Oklahoma Supreme Court sanctioned a
Burk
remedy for an employee who had federal and state statutory remedies. 833 P.2d at 1223.
Burk’s
concern was not with providing a remedy for employees who otherwise would have none. Had this been
Burk’s
concern, the Court presumably would have granted a remedy to any “at will” employee who was terminated in bad faith. However, the court refused to imply such a restriction on discharge.
See
770 P.2d at 27 (refusing to read implied covenant of good faith into “at will” contract). Rather,
Burk
was concerned that the contractual relation between an employer and employee might not adequately protect “ ‘society’s interest in seeing its public policies carried out.’ ” 770 P.2d at 28 (quoting
Palmateer v. International Harvester Co.,
85 Ill.2d 124, 52 Ill.Dec. 13, 15, 421 N.E.2d 876, 878 (1981)). This is why the Court limited the remedy to employees discharged in violation of “an established and well-defined public policy.”
See
770 P.2d at 29.
When an employer discharges an employee in violation of such a public policy, society is equally aggrieved whether the employee is “at will” or can be discharged only for “just cause.” As explained by
Palmateer,
“parties to a contract may not incorporate in it rights and obligations which are clearly injurious to the public.” 52 Ill.Dec. at 15, 421 N.E.2d at 878. Thus, whether the contract purported to provide grounds for the discharge or not, the contract could not provide a ground for discharge which is contrary to clear public policy and it is those discharges that trigger a
Burk
cause of action. Accordingly, we believe that Oklahoma would permit a
Burk
action by an employee who could be fired only for “just cause” under his employment contract.
Our holding is supported by
Vannerson v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma,
784 P.2d 1053 (Okla.1989). In
Vannerson,
the Oklahoma Supreme Court applied
Burk
without inquiry into whether the plaintiff was an “at will” employee. The plaintiff in
Vannerson
appears to have had the benefit of a formal grievance procedure which limited the defendant’s ability to terminate him.
Id.
at 1054. This is essentially the same type of limitation as that in the contract between Davies and American.
Notwithstanding this limita
tion on termination,
Vannerson
permitted the plaintiff’s
Burk
suit.
See id.
at 1056 (remanding for retrial of one
Burk
claim where general verdict was based upon two
Burk
claims, one of which did not state adequate public policy ground).
In summary, given
Tate’s
rejection of the proposition that
Burk
is intended to provide a remedy only for employees who otherwise would have none, the fact that
Burk’s
reasoning applies with equal force to “at will” and “for cause” employees, and
Vannerson’s
application of
Burk
in a situation similar to that at bar, we believe that Oklahoma would not limit
Burk
to “at will” employees. Thus, we hold that the district court erred in concluding that Oklahoma would so limit
Burk.
Because we hold that both of the grounds supporting the district court’s grant of American’s motion for JNOV are erroneous, we REVERSE that judgment and REMAND for reinstatement of the jury verdict.