Capozzoli, J.
The majority is in full accord with our distinguished colleague in his dissent, insofar as he concludes that a witness before the Grand Jury, who refuses to answer questions put to him, may not escape the consequences of his refusal merely because he relied upon the advice given to him by his attorney. We concede that this is out of the case.
We agree, too, that a witness is not entitled to a suppression hearing in the course of the grand jury inquiry, if a court order authorizing wiretapping is produced. (Cali v. United States, 464 F. 2d 475; Matter of Persico, 491 F. 2d 1156 [2 Cir., 1974]; Matter of George, 74 Misc 2d 369.)
The one issue which is presented in this case, which must be resolved, is whether it was proper for the Grand Jury to direct the defendant, then appearing before it as a witness, to answer questions put to him, despite his claim that the testimony sought would constitute a disclosure of the contents or fruits of illegal electronic surveillance.
In Peoples v. Mulligan (40 A D 2d 165,166) we held “ that the New York eavesdropping statutes were intended, when enacted, [77]*77to harmonize State law on electronic surveillance ¡with Federal law ”. Therefore, it is important to examine the Federal cases, which have concerned themselves with this particular subject.
In Gelbard v. United States (408 U. S. 41) it was held that, in contempt proceedings based upon a failure to obey a court order to answer a question before a grand jury, the witness refusing to give the testimony may avail himself of the defense that the question propounded violates section 2515 of title 18 of the United States Code, which directs that: ‘1 Whenever any wire or oral communication has been intercepted, no part of the contents of such communication and no evidence derived therefrom may be received in evidence in any * * * proceeding in or before any * * * grand jury * * * if the disclosure of that information would be in violation of this chapter.”
The court also called attention to section 3504 of title 18 of the United States ¡Code which was enacted as part of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (84 U. S. Stat. 935). This last-cited section provides: “ (a) In any * * * proceeding in or before any * * * grand jury * * * (1) upon a claim by a party aggrieved that evidence is inadmissible because it is the primary product of an unlawful act or because it was obtained by the exploitation of an unlawful act, the opponent of the claim shall affirm or deny the occurrence of the alleged unlawful act ”.
In discussing the effect of section ,2515 the court, in Gelbard (supra, pp. 54-455) said: “ grand jury witnesses may rely upon the prohibition of § 2515 in claiming that the evidence sought from them is inadmissible in the grand jury proceedings. Upon such a claim by a grand jury witness, the Government, as * the opponent of the claim,’ is required under § 3504(a) (1) to ‘ affirm or deny the occurrence of the alleged ’ illegal interception.”
Later (p. 58) the court said: “ ‘ the opponent of the claim ’ has a duty to ‘ affirm or deny ’ whenever ‘ a party aggrieved ’ ‘ claim [s] * * * that evidence is inadmissible because it is ’ derived from an illegal interception ’ ’.
In the case at bar the record shows that the defendant made it very clear that his refusal to answer questions put to him was “because my testimony would constitute a disclosure of the contents or fruits of an illegal electronic surveillance ”. Any fair-minded person must admit that this language served notice upon all concerned that the defendant was relying upon the prohibition of section 2515 and was raising a claim that the evidence sought from him was inadmissible in grand jury proceedings. [78]*78Once he raised that claim, it was the duty of the People to “ 1 affirm or deny the occurrence of the alleged ’ illegal interception ”, (Gelbard v. United States, supra.) The trial court was in error when it intimated in its decision that the defendant acted at his peril in trying to guess what the facts were. He was entitled to more than a guess. He was entitled to truthful information as to whether the questions asked of him were or were not based on illegal wiretaps and it was the duty of the People to furnish that information before the grand jury.
How much more reasonable and fair were the proceedings in Matter of Persico (supra). In that case the defendant refused to answer on constitutional grounds and he was granted immunity. Then, after answering several questions, he refused to answer other questions, claiming that they were derived from electronic surveillance, which he claimed was illegal. The Government, in obedience to the holding in Gelbard v. United States (supra), admitted that the line of questioning before the Grand Jury was a product of an electronic interception. However, it represented that such interception was conducted under proper court orders and fulfilled the requirements of Federal law pertaining to authorized wiretapping. These orders were produced before District Judge Judd, who inspected them in camera, found them to be proper and ordered the defendant to testify. The latter then moved for a suppression hearing to test the legality of the orders and this was properly denied him. As was stated by Mr. Justice White, in his concurring opinion in Gelbard v. United States (supra, p. 70): “ Suppression hearings in these circumstances would result in protracted interruption of grand jury proceedings.”
The Circuit Court, in Matter of Persico (supra) following Gelbard v. United States (491 F. 2d 1156, 1159-1160, supra) said: “ The apparently ample breadth of this proscription [2515] has been confirmed by Gelbard v. United States, supra. In that case the Supreme Court held that in contempt proceedings * * * for failure to obey a court order to answer a question before a grand jury, the witness refusing to give the testimony may avail himself of the defense that the question propounded to him violates § 2515. * * * Insofar as Gelbard permits a grand jury witness to refuse to answer a question derived from concededly unlawful electronic surveillance and then successfully to defend a contempt proceeding for so refusing, we agree with appellant. Gelbard does indeed govern that narrow situation.”
[79]*79Further, it said (p. 1161): “ As noted, though Congress prescribed that illegal wiretap evidence must be excluded from all grand jury proceedings, hearings to suppress evidence were not to be permitted during such proceedings.”
The court concluded (p. 1162): “ We hold that in contempt proceedings initiated when a witness who has been granted ‘ derivative use ’ immunity refuses to answer questions propounded by a grand jury because he claims he is entitled to a hearing to ascertain whether the questions posed are the product of unlawful electronic surveillance the witness is not entitled to a plenary suppression hearing to test the legality of that surveillance. We hold that the refusal would be permissible only if there is an absence of a necessary court order or * * *.
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Capozzoli, J.
The majority is in full accord with our distinguished colleague in his dissent, insofar as he concludes that a witness before the Grand Jury, who refuses to answer questions put to him, may not escape the consequences of his refusal merely because he relied upon the advice given to him by his attorney. We concede that this is out of the case.
We agree, too, that a witness is not entitled to a suppression hearing in the course of the grand jury inquiry, if a court order authorizing wiretapping is produced. (Cali v. United States, 464 F. 2d 475; Matter of Persico, 491 F. 2d 1156 [2 Cir., 1974]; Matter of George, 74 Misc 2d 369.)
The one issue which is presented in this case, which must be resolved, is whether it was proper for the Grand Jury to direct the defendant, then appearing before it as a witness, to answer questions put to him, despite his claim that the testimony sought would constitute a disclosure of the contents or fruits of illegal electronic surveillance.
In Peoples v. Mulligan (40 A D 2d 165,166) we held “ that the New York eavesdropping statutes were intended, when enacted, [77]*77to harmonize State law on electronic surveillance ¡with Federal law ”. Therefore, it is important to examine the Federal cases, which have concerned themselves with this particular subject.
In Gelbard v. United States (408 U. S. 41) it was held that, in contempt proceedings based upon a failure to obey a court order to answer a question before a grand jury, the witness refusing to give the testimony may avail himself of the defense that the question propounded violates section 2515 of title 18 of the United States Code, which directs that: ‘1 Whenever any wire or oral communication has been intercepted, no part of the contents of such communication and no evidence derived therefrom may be received in evidence in any * * * proceeding in or before any * * * grand jury * * * if the disclosure of that information would be in violation of this chapter.”
The court also called attention to section 3504 of title 18 of the United States ¡Code which was enacted as part of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (84 U. S. Stat. 935). This last-cited section provides: “ (a) In any * * * proceeding in or before any * * * grand jury * * * (1) upon a claim by a party aggrieved that evidence is inadmissible because it is the primary product of an unlawful act or because it was obtained by the exploitation of an unlawful act, the opponent of the claim shall affirm or deny the occurrence of the alleged unlawful act ”.
In discussing the effect of section ,2515 the court, in Gelbard (supra, pp. 54-455) said: “ grand jury witnesses may rely upon the prohibition of § 2515 in claiming that the evidence sought from them is inadmissible in the grand jury proceedings. Upon such a claim by a grand jury witness, the Government, as * the opponent of the claim,’ is required under § 3504(a) (1) to ‘ affirm or deny the occurrence of the alleged ’ illegal interception.”
Later (p. 58) the court said: “ ‘ the opponent of the claim ’ has a duty to ‘ affirm or deny ’ whenever ‘ a party aggrieved ’ ‘ claim [s] * * * that evidence is inadmissible because it is ’ derived from an illegal interception ’ ’.
In the case at bar the record shows that the defendant made it very clear that his refusal to answer questions put to him was “because my testimony would constitute a disclosure of the contents or fruits of an illegal electronic surveillance ”. Any fair-minded person must admit that this language served notice upon all concerned that the defendant was relying upon the prohibition of section 2515 and was raising a claim that the evidence sought from him was inadmissible in grand jury proceedings. [78]*78Once he raised that claim, it was the duty of the People to “ 1 affirm or deny the occurrence of the alleged ’ illegal interception ”, (Gelbard v. United States, supra.) The trial court was in error when it intimated in its decision that the defendant acted at his peril in trying to guess what the facts were. He was entitled to more than a guess. He was entitled to truthful information as to whether the questions asked of him were or were not based on illegal wiretaps and it was the duty of the People to furnish that information before the grand jury.
How much more reasonable and fair were the proceedings in Matter of Persico (supra). In that case the defendant refused to answer on constitutional grounds and he was granted immunity. Then, after answering several questions, he refused to answer other questions, claiming that they were derived from electronic surveillance, which he claimed was illegal. The Government, in obedience to the holding in Gelbard v. United States (supra), admitted that the line of questioning before the Grand Jury was a product of an electronic interception. However, it represented that such interception was conducted under proper court orders and fulfilled the requirements of Federal law pertaining to authorized wiretapping. These orders were produced before District Judge Judd, who inspected them in camera, found them to be proper and ordered the defendant to testify. The latter then moved for a suppression hearing to test the legality of the orders and this was properly denied him. As was stated by Mr. Justice White, in his concurring opinion in Gelbard v. United States (supra, p. 70): “ Suppression hearings in these circumstances would result in protracted interruption of grand jury proceedings.”
The Circuit Court, in Matter of Persico (supra) following Gelbard v. United States (491 F. 2d 1156, 1159-1160, supra) said: “ The apparently ample breadth of this proscription [2515] has been confirmed by Gelbard v. United States, supra. In that case the Supreme Court held that in contempt proceedings * * * for failure to obey a court order to answer a question before a grand jury, the witness refusing to give the testimony may avail himself of the defense that the question propounded to him violates § 2515. * * * Insofar as Gelbard permits a grand jury witness to refuse to answer a question derived from concededly unlawful electronic surveillance and then successfully to defend a contempt proceeding for so refusing, we agree with appellant. Gelbard does indeed govern that narrow situation.”
[79]*79Further, it said (p. 1161): “ As noted, though Congress prescribed that illegal wiretap evidence must be excluded from all grand jury proceedings, hearings to suppress evidence were not to be permitted during such proceedings.”
The court concluded (p. 1162): “ We hold that in contempt proceedings initiated when a witness who has been granted ‘ derivative use ’ immunity refuses to answer questions propounded by a grand jury because he claims he is entitled to a hearing to ascertain whether the questions posed are the product of unlawful electronic surveillance the witness is not entitled to a plenary suppression hearing to test the legality of that surveillance. We hold that the refusal would be permissible only if there is an absence of a necessary court order or * * *. Here there were three court orders. Inasmuch as
Judge Judd conducted an in camera inspection to ascertain whether they complied with the statute and found that they did comply, Pérsico received all that he was entitled to receive.” We especially emphasize the language just quoted, that“ Pérsico received all that he was entitled to receive ”. In other words, Pérsico had a right to claim a violation of the wiretap statute. That claim was met by the Government’s admission that it had conducted wiretapping and that it was done pursuant to court orders. Those court orders were then produced and, upon inspection by the District Judge, they were found to be in compliance with statutory requirements and Pérsico was directed to answer. Compare this procedure with the procedure followed in the case at bar. Here, the Assistant District Attorney became the adviser of the defendant. He expected the defendant to follow his advice, at the same time withholding from him that wiretapping had taken place, pursuant to court orders. No one thought of bringing this defendant before a Judge who might have directed the People to affirm or deny the claim asserted ,by him, as was done in Pérsico. If that had occurred, the defendant and his counsel would then have known exactly what they were up against. They would have learned that there were court orders authorizing wiretapping and, if defendant then failed to answer the questions put to him, he properly could face contempt action. Under those circumstances the defendant would have been able to make an informed choice. Instead, the People now try to defend their action by making the unreasonable assertion that the defendant should have made a guess and, if he failed to guess properly, it was at his peril.
Let us examine the facts in Matter of George (74 Misc 2d 359, 360, supra). In that case the court Was faced with the very [80]*80situation presented in the case at bar. The defendant and his attorney argued that the witness, George, refused to testify on the ¡ground “ that his client believed that the basis for questions put to him could be found in intercepted telephonic communications in which his client was a participant ”. The Disrict Attorney conceded that electronic eavesdropping was utilized and handed court orders to the court, Mr. Justice Berets, for inspection. The court found the orders to be proper and directed the witness to answer, at the same time properly denying the witness’ motion for a suppression hearing. The problem was handled exactly as the Federal cases, supra, direct. There was no guesswork expected of the witness. He was properly informed and would have acted at his peril if he did not comply with the order directing him to testify.
To say that no harm can come to the witness who faces such a crucial decision, because he can always have a suppression hearing in conjunction with his trial for contempt, is to overlook the fact that the time for the witness to have the information which, according to Federal law he is entitled to have, is during the grand jury proceedings, when he is to make his choice as to whether he will or will not answer questions propounded to him. If we agree that the witness has the right to decline to answer questions based on illegal wiretapping, then how can that witness know whether the wiretap is legal or illegal if the People refuse to tell him whether wiretaps were used at all?
It is unfortunate that our dissenting colleague fails “to see by what right a witness who is not a target of the investigation and who has been granted full immunity can question the source of the information which prompted the questions put to him”. We believe that this language does not really express his failure to see, but rather his disagreement with the law discussed herein, which gives a witness that right.
We conclude that the judgment of conviction should be reversed, on the law, and the indictment dismissed.