Opinion for the Court filed by Circuit Judge WALD.
Opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part filed by Senior Circuit Judge MacKINNON.
WALD, Circuit Judge:
In this case, several Florida municipal electric utilities1 (“Florida Cities”) seek direct review of .an order of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (“FERC” or “the Commission”) establishing transmission rates for Florida Power & Light Co. (“FP & L”). Florida Power & Light Co., 21 FERC ¶ 61,070 (1982), rehearing denied, 22 FERC ¶ 61,012 (1983).2 The municipal customers claim that these rates are excessive and discriminatory in violation of the Federal Power Act, 16 U.S.C. § 824d, on two independent grounds: First, they claim that FERC’s failure to order FP & L to file joint rates with another large investor-owned utility, Florida Power Corporation (“FPC”), results in unwarranted double transmission rates for wheeling transactions that cross through the transmission systems of both FP & L and FPC. Second, the municipalities claim that FERC improperly allowed FP & L to include in its short-term transmission rates “capacity costs”— i.e., costs associated with the construction [18] and maintenance of transmission facilities with sufficient capacity to serve the utility’s customers at peak power loads. For the reasons stated below we uphold the Commission’s refusal to order joint transmission rates, but we remand for further consideration its decision to permit the inclusion of capacity costs in the rate base for all classes of transmission service at issue.
I. Background
FP & L, the largest electric utility in Florida, sells power and transmission services to retail and wholesale customers. Its retail service area, over which its transmission lines extend, covers virtually the entire Atlantic coast area from the Georgia border to Miami and the Gulf coast from Sarasota southward. FP & L, together with FPC, serve practically the entire Florida peninsula; the Tampa area is served by another investor-owned utility, Tampa Electric. Within the service areas of the two largest privately-owned utilities lie numerous small municipal and cooperatively-owned electric utilities, including Florida Cities, which serve their own customers.
The transmission system of each utility is directly connected with that of one or more adjoining utilities, and thus indirectly connected with every other utility in peninsular Florida, enabling FP & L, FPC, Florida Cities and others to create a regional market for the exchange of excess generating capacity. Under a set of “interchange agreements,” each utility can buy electricity generated by any other utility for periods ranging from one hour to three years to supplement power during generator emergencies, equipment maintenance or any time when the buyer’s incremental generation costs are, for whatever reason, higher than the seller’s.3 These interchange agreements improve the reliability and efficiency of the entire peninsular electric system, and permit each utility to maintain less excess capacity than it would otherwise need to serve its customers’ maximum needs.4
When one utility buys power under an interchange agreement from a utility with which its transmission lines are directly connected, it pays no transmission charge.5 However, when a utility buys from another with which it is not directly connected, it must obtain transmission or “wheeling” services and pay for those services. In practice this affects primarily the small utilities such as Florida Cities because the transmission systems of FP & L and FPC are each directly connected with the other, with Tampa Electric, and with numerous municipal customers; they seldom have the need to purchase power from utilities with which they are not directly connected.
FP & L filed with FERC a set of transmission service agreements (TSAs) setting out the terms under which it would offer wheeling service to a utility purchasing power under an interchange agreement from another utility, delivery of which required the use of FP & L’s transmission network.6 Florida Cities protested, argu[19] ing that FP & L’s rates, together with corresponding rates filed by FPC, would result in excessive and discriminatory combined charges for transactions that required wheeling by both FP & L and FPC. Cities argued that these transactions should be viewed as a single transmission on the combined FP & L/FPC network performed in part by each utility, and for which each should receive part of a single “joint rate.” In support of this proposal, Cities presented evidence of a high degree of coordination and integration among peninsular Florida utilities, and especially between FP & L and FPC.
Cities argued in addition that at least as to transmission rates for emergency service for periods no longer than 72 hours (TA service) and “energy exchanges” for periods of one hour (TC service), the applicable rates should not include “capacity” or “demand-related” costs. They argued that because the transmitting utility could simply decline to enter into TSAs of such short duration whenever it did not anticipate having enough excess transmitting capacity, transmission under TA and TC service agreements did not require the planning, construction and maintenance of any additional capacity and should not be assigned any of the associated capacity costs. FERC rejected both arguments and, with minor modifications, approved FP & L’s rates as just and reasonable, as required by the Federal Power Act. Cities appeal from both the refusal to impose joint rates and the inclusion of capacity costs.
II. Joint Rates
In Richmond Power & Light v. FERC, 574 F.2d 610 (D.C.Cir.1978), we upheld FERC’s rejection of a municipal electric utility’s proposal of joint rates — or “through rates” — for wheeling transactions crossing two or more electrical systems. We held that “the Commission’s failure to establish through rates can be deemed arbitrary only if the individual rates were unjustly or unreasonably high and, as well, the utilities had a duty to wheel.” Id. at 619. Florida Cities do not claim that these conditions are met here. Unlike Richmond Power, they do not contend that FP & L and FPC are obligated to wheel.7 Moreover, they contend that even if the individual rates accurately reflected a proper application of accepted costing methodology,8 joint rates would be required. Cities argue that this case falls outside the scope of the test set out in Richmond Power because of one significant factual difference: Cities contend that FP & L and FPC have so fully integrated their transmission systems that they in fact function as a single unified network. In order to evaluate the significance of this claim, we must understand Cities’ proposal in more depth.
A. The Problem: “Double Rates”
Florida Cities illustrates their argument for joint transmission rates with the case of New Smyrna Beach, Florida.9 New [20] Smyrna, which is located on the east side of the state in FP & L’s service area, owns four megawatts of power from the Crystal River Unit 3 nuclear plant (CR-3) constructed by FPC and located in its service area across the state. New Smyrna thus requires wheeling by both FPC and FP & L.
Under the pricing system approved here by FERC, a utility determines its transmission costs per unit of electricity by dividing the total annual costs of constructing and maintaining its entire transmission network by the load, or the amount of power on the network, at certain peak periods.10 This “rolled-in” method of calculating transmission costs, which Cities do not quarrel with, is based on the recognition that a unit of electricity does not actually travel like a railroad shipment from the point at which it enters the system to the point to which it is delivered. A transmission network functions more like a reservoir: a given amount of power enters the system at one point and a like amount is delivered at another point. The costs associated with this pair of operations do not vary with the distance between the point of entry and the point of delivery, but are based on the costs for the entire transmission network.11 The resulting transmission rate is thus called a “postage stamp” rate.
In the case of New Smyrna, FPC and FP & L each charges a “postage stamp” rate for the use of its transmission network.12 In other words, the two networks are treated like two adjoining reservoirs. The resulting transmission cost to New Smyrna is therefore roughly double the cost to a customer located, like the CR-3 unit itself, within FPC’s service area: even if the customer were twice as far away from the generating unit, it would pay only one postage stamp rate.
Cities claim that these individual rates combine to yield an excessive and discriminatory total rate. They argue that because FP & L and FPC pay no transmission charge for a “functionally similar” transmission of electricity across each other’s boundaries,13 these rates unduly disadvantage Cities in their competition with the large utilities for potential retail customers. Cities are discouraged from purchasing power from remote sources and largely cut off from the economic benefits of regional coordination, to the detriment of their customers and of competition in general.
B. The Proposed Solution: Joint Rates
Cities concede that because they, unlike FP & L and FPC, have not invested in their own transmission networks it is proper to impose on them a portion of FP & L’s and FPC’s transmission costs. They also concede that, except for the inclusion of capacity costs discussed below, the individual [21] transmission rates accurately reflect each utility’s fully allocated rolled-in costs. Furthermore, they acknowledge the general validity of the rolled-in methodology, and the resulting “postage stamp” rate.
The crux of Cities’ argument to this court is that FERC has applied the right methodology to the wrong transmission network. Cities claim that because of the very high degree of integration among utilities in peninsular Florida, and especially between FP & L and FPC, the appropriate transmission network is not defined by the corporate boundaries of FP & L and FPC. In the case of service like that offered New Smyrna, which requires the use of both FP & L and FPC transmission facilities, Cities argue that FP & L and FPC should each be viewed as performing only part of the full transaction. In their view, transmission rates should be based on the combined transmission costs of both FP & L and FPC over the functionally integrated network covering most of peninsular Florida. Cities would divide those combined costs by the total peak load on the combined network to arrive at the cost per unit on the network as a whole. This method would result in a single postage stamp rate that is roughly the average rather than the sum of the two utilities’ individual rates.14 Cities would then allocate that rate between FP & L and FPC on the basis of each utility’s proportional share of the costs of the combined transmission network.15 They argue that, notwithstanding the two-part test of Richmond Power not met here, FERC should be required to impose joint rates under these circumstances in order to alleviate the ’ anomalous consequences of “postage stamp” rates for transactions like New Smyrna’s, and thus avoid transmission rates that are excessive and discriminatory.
The Commission rejected Cities’ proposal. Under that proposal, it concluded, joint rate customers would pay each utility significantly less than non-joint rate customers for the same use of the transmission network. According to FERC, in the absence of any evidence that each utility’s contribution to joint service is less costly than its ordinary wheeling service, the joint rate would be discriminatory as to the non-joint rate customers, forcing them to subsidize Cities’ rates for no justifiable reason. 21 FERC at 61,241.
C. Analysis
The Commission’s conclusion rests on the premise that wheeling transactions beginning and ending within the service area of a single utility do not use the adjoining utility’s transmission network, while wheeling involving two utilities uses both.16 If this premise is supported, then we agree with FERC that joint rates are not required. We would arrive at this conclusion whether we looked only at the rates charged by each utility or at the combined rates paid by the double-wheeling customer. It is not unjust, unreasonable and discriminatory for one utility to charge all its wheeling customers the same postage [22] stamp rate for the same wheeling service.17 Nor is it discriminatory to require the double-wheeling customer to pay higher combined rates for a more costly combined service;18 it is simply an anomalous consequence of the proper application of the “rolled-in” methodology to these transactions.
Cities, however, appear to challenge the Commission’s premise that wheeling transactions beginning and ending within a single utility’s territory do not make use of the adjoining utility’s transmission network.19 They argue in effect that the FP & L/FPC transmission systems are not like two adjoining reservoirs, but rather like two sides of a single reservoir divided only by a line painted across the bottom, in which a “transmission” of water between any two points on the reservoir uses the entire reservoir regardless of whether those two points lie on the same or different sides of the line. If coordination between FP & L and FPC had become so extensive that the two systems operated as an integrated whole, then each utility’s customers would in fact use both transmission systems; in that case, the individual rates approved by FERC would arguably force customers paying “double rates” to subsidize the remaining customers by paying twice for a functionally identical transaction.
The Commission did not respond directly to Cities’ claim that, contrary to its basic premise, FPC and FP & L had created a unitary system on which all loads used the combined network.20 We cannot say with certainty that the two-part test of Richmond Power would necessarily control the resolution of such an unusual case. We find it unnecessary, however, to remand to FERC on this issue because we find that the evidence was sufficient to support its premise that the two transmission networks are not functionally merged.
A high degree of coordination involving frequent exchanges of power between adjoining utilities does not indicate that the utilities’ corporate boundaries have no functional significance.21 The New Smyr[23] na transaction appears to involve two separately negotiated operations: FPC takes CR-3 power and delivers a like amount (minus transmission losses) to FP & L; then FP & L delivers a like amount to New Smyrna. 5 FERC at 65,161. In general, coordination among the peninsular utilities appears to take the form of discrete transactions undertaken when equipment maintenance, generator outages, significant disparities in incremental cost or other particular circumstances call for an exchange.22 The evidence indicates that these exchanges may be quite frequent, that the arrangements are streamlined and facilitated by a computerized broker system23 and that a buying utility pays for the transmission costs of an interconnected seller by absorbing its own costs on a reciprocal basis instead of by paying a transmission charge. But this evidence does not demonstrate that transfers of power between FPC and FP & L take place on any other basis than as discrete arms-length transactions between distinct business entities.24
We need not determine whether there will ever be circumstances under which two utilities have gone beyond extensive cooperation and have so completely integrated the operation of their transmission systems that any transmission by either utility makes use of the combined network. In that case, a transaction crossing corporate boundaries, like the transmission of water across a single reservoir, would be functionally identical to a transaction within corporate boundaries. Such unusual circumstances would present a stronger case that individual rates permitted overrecovery of costs and that joint rates were therefore required. But Florida Cities have not persuaded us that FP & L’s corporate boundaries are merely illusory and without functional significance in the wheeling transactions at issue. Under these circumstances we uphold FERC’s refusal to order joint rates.25
III. Capacity Costs
FERC permitted FP & L to include in its transmission rates the “rolled-in” costs of the entire transmission network, including so-called “demand” or “capacity” costs associated with constructing and maintaining the transmission capacity necessary for serving its customers’ peak demand.26 Cities argue that because service under the TSAs uses only excess capacity it cannot fairly be assigned capacity costs.
A. The Transmission Service Agreements and Capacity Costs
Electric utilities often distinguish between “firm” service, under which custom[24] ers can demand power or transmission at any time, and “interruptible” service, which the utility is entitled to shut off at any point when there is not enough excess capacity beyond that required to guarantee the needs of the utility’s firm customers. Interruptible service is typically offered at a significant discount because the utility’s ability simply to cut off service at peak demand periods alleviates its need to plan for and finance additional capacity to offer the service.27 The Commission has recently explained in some detail why it ordinarily will not permit the allocation of “capacity costs” — costs associated with the need to construct and maintain sufficient capacity for reliable service at peak demand — to interruptible service, which does not impose capacity costs. Kentucky Utilities Co., 15 FERC ¶ 61,002, rehearing denied, 15 FERC ¶ 61,222 (1981).
FP & L provides transmission service in conjunction with four interchange agreements: TA emergency service for periods up to seventy-two hours, TB capacity and energy for up to twelve months, TC energy exchanges for periods of one hour, and TD capacity and energy for twelve to thirty-six months. 12 FERC at 65,056. The wheeling rate applicable to all four agreements includes capacity costs associated with FP & L’s transmission system.28 Cities argued that because FP & L can simply refuse to enter into a transmission agreement, and indeed has done so, when it lacks the necessary excess capacity, it “need not plan or construct transmission capacity in anticipation of future interchange needs. As a corollary, interchange transactions, present or future, do not force FP & L to incur new capacity costs.” Id. At least as to short term TA emergency service and TC energy exchanges (one hour), FP & L could avoid service during peak demand periods simply by refusing new requests for service. Commission staff had argued that, in addition, TB service for less than a week should not be assigned capacity costs because it could be refused in anticipation of peak demand periods. Id. The AU, however, accepted the view of FP & L that all such services were “firm” — and thus properly assigned capacity costs — because “each time they commit to transmit for a period requested by the transmission customer, they commit to provide firm transmission.” 12 FERC at 66,056.
The Commission disagreed with the AU’s nomenclature:
Because all four of the services are offered only on an “if and when available” basis, we cannot conclude that any of them ... can be categorized as a firm service. Unlike the truly firm service customer, the customers here have no assurance they will receive any service from FP & L under the transmission service agreements.
21 FERC at 61,245. Nevertheless, the Commission accepted the gist of FP & L’s argument that “[t]he services do in a sense become firm once they are undertaken. Whether for one hour, one week, or one year, FP & L is committed to using its system to provide transmission for that duration.” Id. The Commission therefore approved as “equitable” the allocation of capacity costs to all four kinds of transmission service. It did so without addressing Cities’ argument that short term service did not actually impose any capacity costs.
[25] B. Analysis
In Kentucky Utilities Co., 15 FERC ¶ 61,002 (1981), and the followup opinion denying rehearing, 15 FERC ¶ 61,222 (1981), FERC set out at length its rationale for not allocating capacity costs to transmission service that was “interruptible.” In that case, the transmission service agreement gave Kentucky the limited right to interrupt or curtail service to the city of Paris up to 400 hours during any twelve consecutive months or 1000 hours during any five consecutive years. FERC held that even thpugh service was not always cut off at peak demand, Kentucky could not include its capacity costs in the rate for this service: “because of the right to interrupt, Kentucky can keep Paris from imposing any demand on Kentucky’s system during peak periods and thereby control its capacity costs.” Id. at 61,004.
The Commission further explicated its reasoning in its opinion denying rehearing, 15 FERC ¶ 61,222, in which it distinguished earlier cases permitting the allocation of capacity costs to transmission service. For example, FERC pointed to several critical circumstances justifying the allocation of capacity costs to off-peak wheeling service in New England Power Pool Participants, 52 F.P.C. 410 (1974), rehearing denied, 54 F.P.C. 1375 (1975), aff'd sub nom. Richmond Power & Light v. FERC, 574 F.2d 610 (D.C.Cir.1978). The Commission noted that the service in Richmond Power involved a reservation of capacity for the period service was provided. 15 FERC at 61,506. In addition, however, there was evidence that many of the transmission lines involved were heavily loaded at all times, with the result that the “coal-by-wire” transmission service did impose demands on the systems’ capacity. Id. Furthermore, the Commission had invoked special . emergency powers to deal with the energy crisis; “the need to induce voluntary transfers of energy to forestall an emergency” under these circumstances was an important factor in the Commission’s decision and this court’s affirmance. Id. The Commission in Kentucky Utilities stressed these factors as justifying the assignment of capacity costs: We agree with FERC’s assessment in Kentucky Utilities of the basis for our own proposal of the allocation of capacity costs in Richmond Power.
The clear import of the Commission’s decision in Kentucky Utilities is that the allocation of capacity costs to transmission service must ordinarily be justified on the basis of the transmitting utility’s inability to avoid service at peak demand and its need to plan future capacity based in part on the transmission service at issue. This approach, which comports well with established principles of cost-based ratemaking, does not appear to have been followed in this case. FP & L’s own witnesses conceded that “one hour firm is not very firm.” J.A. 468. They acknowledged that requests for transmission service under an interchange agreement could and would be refused at peak demand periods when the system’s excess capacity was just sufficient to guarantee service to firm customers in case of an emergency. J.A. 473-77. They further admitted that FP & L did not take into account interchange transactions in planning its capacity. J.A. 457. The Commission nevertheless approved the inclusion of capacity costs because the service — even that for only one hour — was “in a sense firm.” It made no attempt to reconcile its decision with the Kentucky Utilities analysis.
The Commission now argues that Kentucky Utilities has no relevance to this case, which involves wheeling services and not ordinary transmission associated with the purchase of power. We are skeptical of this distinction. First, the Commission took note in Kentucky Utilities of the initial decision in the instant case. Although it declined to “opine” on the proper resolution of the capacity cost issue now before us, the Commission described that issue as “the very point discussed by Kentucky.” 15 FERC at 61,508. The Commission is therefore not well situated to deny the relevance of the Kentucky Utilities analysis to this case. Moreover, FERC has not explained the significance of the difference [26] between ordinary transmission and wheeling for the decision whether to include capacity costs. In Kentucky Utilities itself, the Commission stated that it had approved a wheeling tariff which included capacity costs in Cleveland Electric Illuminating Co., 11 FERC ¶ 61,114, not because it involved wheeling but because the utility had undertaken an obligation to consider the future requirements of its wheeling customers in planning its transmission system. 15 FERC at 61,507. Although the Commission also referred to the fact that “the wheeling services are firm during the period the service is provided,” id., the minimum period for which service could be reserved was one week, Cleveland Electric, 11 FERC at 61,249, which is the maximum period that the Commission Staff in this case argued would permit the utility “to predict peak demand periods and refuse such requests selectively.” FERC appeared to attribute no great significance in Kentucky Utilities to the difference between wheeling and other transmission services.
We do not believe the Commission has adequately explained the reasoning behind its decision to allocate capacity costs to all classes of transmission service under the TSAs, including service for periods of only one hour. It is not enough to state that service is “in a sense firm.” If the utility is reasonably able to predict its peak demand periods within a week,29 we fail to see the cost justification for treating a “firm” commitment of service for periods as short as one hour differently from the interruptible service at issue in Kentucky Utilities. It is of course true, as the dissent points out, Diss.Op. at note 2, that a line must be drawn, and that any such line will be a fine one. But the Commission must nevertheless provide some rational explanation for the line it chooses.
A more comprehensive analysis may indicate that some fraction of capacity costs must fairly be allocated even to very short term wheeling service.30 The Commission may also bring to light practical concerns that justify the allocation of Capacity costs to this service.31 However, in light of its recent full analysis in Kentucky Utilities as to why capacity costs should not ordinarily be assigned to transmission service which can be selectively refused at heavy demand periods and which does not require any additional capacity, we cannot uphold the Commission’s decision as it now stands, without an explanation of the circumstances that make it just and reasonable to assign capacity costs to all of the transmission services offered by FP & L.32
Conclusion
We are unfortunately unable to bring these lengthy proceedings to a close. FERC’s decision to reject Cities’ joint rate proposal was reasonable and supported by substantial evidence, and we affirm the Commission in that respect. However, the rationale behind the decision to allocate capacity costs is obscure and appears incon[27] sistent with FERC’s own elaborate and reasoned analysis in Kentucky Utilities. We therefore remand to the Commission for further consideration of this issue and an explanation of the circumstances that either make its decision here consistent with the Kentucky Utilities analysis or justify a departure from that analysis.
Judgment accordingly.