Courtney R. Herbert v. Guy R. Joubert

CourtCourt of Appeals of Virginia
DecidedFebruary 25, 2025
Docket1847224
StatusPublished

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Opinion

COURT OF APPEALS OF VIRGINIA PUBLISHED

Present: Judges Chaney, White and Senior Judge Annunziata Argued by videoconference

COURTNEY R. HERBERT OPINION BY v. Record No. 1847-22-4 JUDGE VERNIDA R. CHANEY FEBRUARY 25, 2025 GUY R. JOUBERT

FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT OF FAIRFAX COUNTY Grace Burke Carroll, Judge

Scott A. Surovell (Nathan D. Rozsa; Surovell Isaacs & Levy PLC, on briefs), for appellant.

Sonya L. Powell (Keenan R. Goldsby; Powell Radomsky, PLLC, on brief), for appellee.

Courtney Herbert (mother) appeals an order modifying her ex-husband’s, Guy Joubert

(father), child support obligation, assigning six errors to the circuit court—which we address as five

arguments. First, she alleges that the circuit court erred in excluding the parties’ 2021 Payroll

Protection Program loans from the presumptive child support calculation. Second, she argues that

the circuit court erred in determining her attorney fees award. Third, she contends that the circuit

court erred by incorrectly finding that father did not owe arrearages for unreimbursed medical

expenses. Fourth, she asserts that the circuit court erred by improperly finding that mother required

eight rather than ten hours a week of work-related childcare. Fifth, she maintains that the circuit

court erred by refusing to modify its March 2019 ruling on the payment of unreimbursed medical

expenses, extracurricular activities, and private school tuition.

While we disagree with mother’s second, fourth, and fifth arguments, we agree with her first

and third arguments. This Court, therefore, affirms in part, reverses in part, and remands with instructions for the circuit court to recalculate the presumptive child support amount and to

determine the arrearages owed by father for unreimbursed medical expenses.

BACKGROUND1

The parties are divorced and share custody of their two minor children. Mother owns a

dermatology practice while father is a 35% shareholder in a company that provides litigation

support services. On March 8, 2019, the circuit court entered a final child support order, ordering

father to pay $6,069 in monthly child support. The order directed the parties to pay unreimbursed

medical expenses incurred from in-network medical providers in proportion to their respective

incomes, with mother paying 15.6% and father paying 84.4%. However, the court ordered the

parties to pay medical expenses incurred from out-of-network providers on a 50-50 basis beginning

December 20, 2019. The court’s order also incorporated the parties’ agreement2 to pay private

school tuition on a 60-40 basis, with father paying 60% and mother paying 40%. The circuit court

also ordered the parties to share extracurricular expenses on a 50-50 basis.

On June 19, 2019, on mother’s motion to reconsider, the court issued a letter opinion again

stating that its order directing the parties to split out-of-network medical expenses on a 50-50 basis

did not go into effect until December 20, 2019. For out-of-network expenses incurred before

December 20, 2019, the circuit court ordered father to pay 74.3% of the expenses and mother to pay

25.7%.

On April 23, 2020, father moved the circuit court to modify the 2019 child support order

because his income had declined by more than 50% in the prior year due to the COVID-19

The record in this case is sealed. “To the extent that certain facts mentioned in this 1

opinion are found in the sealed portions of the record, we unseal only those portions.” Chaphe v. Skeens, 80 Va. App. 556, 559 n.2 (2024) (quoting Mintbrook Devs., LLC v. Groundscapes, LLC, 76 Va. App. 279, 283 n.1 (2022)). 2 The parties originally agreed to the tuition arrangement in a custody settlement agreement dated April 21, 2016. -2- pandemic and other circumstances. On November 19, mother filed an answer and counterclaim

requesting an upward modification of child support, payment of arrearages that father allegedly

owed for unreimbursed medical expenses, and attorney fees.

In 2020 and 2021, both parties applied for and received loans under the Paycheck Protection

Program (PPP), implemented by the United States Small Business Administration (SBA) under the

CARES Act, to mitigate the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on their businesses. In 2020, mother

received a PPP loan for $54,000, and father received a PPP loan for $422,800. In 2021, mother

received a second PPP loan for $54,000, while father’s second loan was $420,000. The SBA

forgave father’s first PPP loan, and both of mother’s PPP loans in 2021. The SBA forgave father’s

second PPP loan in 2022.

On May 16, 2022,3 the parties convened for an evidentiary hearing on father’s motion to

modify child support. During the hearing, the court considered whether the parties’ PPP loans could

be counted as income in any year for the purposes of calculating support, whether father owed

arrearages for unreimbursed medical expenses, and the amount of work-related childcare that

mother required per week. The court also considered whether a material change in circumstances

justified modification of its March 2019 order relating to the payment of unreimbursed medical

expenses, extracurricular expenses, and private school tuition. Lastly, the court considered mother’s

request for an award of attorney fees incurred in the matter.

The circuit court reviewed the evidence of the parties’ finances. The parties submitted

documents with projections of their business finances up to April 2022. Therefore, the court used

the parties’ respective 2021 incomes to calculate support obligations in 2022. Mother’s annual

income was $376,392 non-inclusive of the PPP funds. Father’s income was $1.773 million

3 In the interim, this Court adjudicated an appeal concerning attorney fees in this matter. See Joubert v. Herbert, No. 1102-19-4, 2020 Va. App. LEXIS 228 (Sept. 1, 2020). -3- non-inclusive of the PPP funds. The parties agreed that the PPP funds should be considered

income, although their experts disagreed on the year they should be considered income. Mother’s

expert testified that the parties’ PPP loans should be counted as income in the year the loans were

received for the purposes of calculating support. Meanwhile, father’s expert testified that they

should be counted as income in the year the loans were forgiven. Even so, father conceded that PPP

loans should be counted as income in the year they were received.

The circuit court “agree[d] with [father’s] counsel that PPP loans given to both parties are a

nonrecurring event, and it should be taken in the year that it was given.” However, the court

declined to include the loans in the parties’ combined monthly income and calculated the

presumptive child support without the loans. The circuit court held that the loans should not be

counted as income for the purposes of calculating support because they are a “nonrecurring event”

and operate “like any loan to any corporation.” The circuit court reasoned:

If we include [the PPP loan] in the 2022 income, then what’s going to happen is we’re including an extra $500,000 to Mr. Joubert when he doesn’t get it, and in 2023 he’s going to have to come in and do a motion to modify, which nobody wants to do. So it makes sense in my mind to just take the actual income of the parties.

The circuit court then addressed the parties’ arguments on support arrearages and childcare.

Mother argued that father owed her arrearages for out-of-network medical expenses incurred before

December 20, 2019.

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