Brock v. Flowers Foods

121 F.4th 753

• Court: Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
• Decided: November 12, 2024
• Docket: 23-1182
• Status: Published

Opinion

Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 1 FILED United States Court of Appeals PUBLISH Tenth Circuit

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS November 12, 2024

Christopher M. Wolpert FOR THE TENTH CIRCUIT Clerk of Court _________________________________

ANGELO BROCK, individually and on behalf of all others similarly situated,

Plaintiff - Appellee,

v. No. 23-1182

FLOWERS FOODS, INC., a Georgia limited liability company; FLOWERS BAKERIES, LLC, a Georgia limited liability company; FLOWERS BAKING CO. OF DENVER, LLC, a Colorado limited liability company,

Defendants - Appellants.

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CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

Amicus Curiae. _________________________________

Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of Colorado (D.C. No. 1:22-CV-02413-CNS-MEH) _________________________________

Traci L. Lovitt (Matthew W. Lampe, Jack L. Millman, and Amanda K. Rice, of Jones Day, New York, New York and Detroit, Michigan; Jared Lee Palmer and David Lee Zwisler of Ogletree Deakins, San Francisco, California and Denver, Colorado, with her on the briefs), for Defendants-Appellants. Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 2

Shaun Markley of Nicholas & Tomasevic, LLP, San Diego, California, for Plaintiff-Appellee. _________________________________

Before MATHESON, BACHARACH, and PHILLIPS, Circuit Judges. _________________________________

PHILLIPS, Circuit Judge. _________________________________

Flowers Foods, Inc., Flowers Bakeries, LLC, and Flowers Baking Co. of

Denver, LLC (collectively, “Flowers”) appeal the district court’s interlocutory

order denying their motion to compel arbitration. This litigation arises from a

putative class-action complaint alleging wage and hour violations. In 2016,

Angelo Brock began working as an independent distributor for Flowers Baking

Co. of Denver, LLC (“Flowers Denver”). He delivered baked goods produced

out-of-state to various retail stores in Colorado. But the working relationship

soured. Brock sued Flowers for violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act and

Colorado labor law on behalf of himself and other similarly situated workers.

Flowers then moved to compel arbitration of Brock’s claims based on the

parties’ Arbitration Agreement. The district court denied that motion.

This appeal focuses on whether the Arbitration Agreement requires Brock

to arbitrate his claims individually. Flowers challenges the district court’s order

denying arbitration under the Federal Arbitration Act (FAA) and Colorado law.

First, Flowers argues that the district court erred by concluding that § 1 of the

FAA exempts Brock from arbitration. Flowers asserts that Brock’s class of

workers is not directly engaged in interstate commerce and that the parties’

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Distributor Agreement does not qualify as a contract of employment. Second,

Flowers argues that the district court erred by concluding that the plain

language of the Arbitration Agreement foreclosed arbitration under Colorado

law.

On the interstate-commerce question, we agree with the district court:

Brock’s class of workers is engaged in interstate commerce. Because we either

decline to review or lack jurisdiction over all other issues, we affirm.

BACKGROUND

I. Factual Background

A. The Parties

Flowers Foods, Inc., a packaged-bakery-foods company, produces “fresh

breads, buns, rolls, and snack cakes” that are sold in supermarkets, drug stores,

and convenience stores throughout the United States. App. vol. I, at 47, 140.

Flowers Foods, Inc. owns various subsidiaries, including Flowers Bakeries,

LLC and Flowers Denver. 1 To “bring bakery products to market,” Flowers uses

a “direct-store-delivery” system. Id. at 47, 49, 141. Under this system, Flowers

contracts with independent distributors who buy the rights to distribute Flowers

products in particular geographic areas. These distributors buy baked goods

from Flowers and then resell and deliver the goods to stores along their routes.

1 Flowers Foods, Inc. is the ultimate parent company of Flowers Bakeries, LLC and Flowers Denver. Flowers Bakeries, LLC wholly owns Flowers Denver. 3 Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 4

The independent distributors also stock shelves, maintain special displays, and

develop and preserve positive customer relations. Flowers, in turn, produces

and markets the baked goods. Flowers operates the second-largest baking

company in the United States and generates billions in sales, with

approximately 85% of sales coming from the direct-store-delivery system. This

system allows Flowers to “sell[] its products through a network of independent

distributors to retail and foodservice customers.” Id. at 129.

Flowers Denver contracted with independent distributor Brock, Inc., the

company owned and operated by Angelo Brock. Brock, Inc. purchased the

rights to distribute Flowers products in certain parts of Colorado, as governed

by a “Distributor Agreement.” 2 Under the direct-store-delivery system, Brock,

Inc. orders products from Flowers Denver or its affiliates. Most of these

products “are produced by out-of-state [Flowers] bakeries in response to

[Brock’s] specific orders.” Id. at 49, 130–31. Flowers Denver then delivers the

completed products to an agreed-on warehouse where Brock picks up the

products. 3 Flowers unloads the shipments and places the orders in a designated

2 Flowers Finance, LLC, a subsidiary of Flowers Foods, Inc., financed Brock, Inc.’s purchase of the distribution route. The Secured Promissory Note of Corporation governs Brock’s repayment of the principal balance and interest to Flowers Finance, LLC. For most independent distributors, a Flowers subsidiary finances a portion of the route’s purchase price through interest- bearing notes. 3 Though the district court referred to the warehouse as “Brock’s warehouse,” Brock v. Flowers Food, Inc., 673 F. Supp. 3d 1180, 1182–83 (D. (footnote continued) 4 Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 5

area of the warehouse. Brock arrives at the warehouse within a day of delivery,

signs off on the products, loads the products onto his vehicle, and delivers the

products to the various stores that serve as his end customers. According to

Flowers, Brock, Inc.’s profit equals the price it sells the Flowers products to its

customers, minus the price expended for its purchasing products from Flowers

as well as its business expenses.

B. The Distributor Agreement

In 2016, Brock signed a Distributor Agreement to become an independent

distributor for Flowers. The Distributor Agreement governs the business

relationship between Flowers Denver and Brock, Inc. Relevant to this appeal,

the Distributor Agreement contains a “Mandatory and Binding Arbitration”

provision that incorporates an “Arbitration Agreement.” Id. at 67, 84 (Ex. K to

the Distributor Agreement). The Arbitration Agreement requires that “any

claim, dispute, and/or controversy” be arbitrated “exclusively” under the FAA,

“except as otherwise agreed to by the parties and/or specified herein.” Id. at 84.

Covered claims include claims challenging the independent distributor’s status

as an independent contractor and claims for unpaid compensation. The

Colo. 2023), the record shows that Brock does not own any of the warehouses used for product pick-up. Instead, the Distributor Agreement required Brock to choose one of three warehouse locations for product delivery and to pay a fee to use the warehouse. App. vol. I, at 61, 82. A declaration from Robert Shaw, the Distributor Enablement Operations Coordinator for Flowers Denver, states that Flowers Denver “has a warehouse in Denver, Colorado, from where Brock, Inc. accepts its ordered product.” Id. at 281–82. The record thus indicates that Flowers owns the warehouse where Brock picks up the products. 5 Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 6

Arbitration Agreement also states that it “shall be governed by the FAA and

Colorado law to the extent Colorado law is not inconsistent with the FAA.” Id.

at 86.

The Distributor Agreement also outlines parameters for Brock, Inc.’s

operations. We provide a snapshot of some parameters here. Brock, Inc. must

use “commercially reasonable best efforts to develop and maximize the sale” of

Flowers products in its geographic territory. Id. at 55. And it must do so in

accordance with “Good Industry Practice,” which includes “maintaining an

adequate and fresh supply” of Flowers products, “actively soliciting” unserved

stores in the territory, and promptly removing stale products. Id. at 53–55.

Brock, Inc.’s employees must “maintain a clean and neat personal appearance

consistent with the professional image customers and the public associate with

[Flowers Denver], and customer requirements.” Id. at 55. Brock, Inc. may not

sell products that compete with Flowers’s products or products that otherwise

interfere with the distribution of Flowers’s products in the defined territory. If

Brock, Inc. believes a certain account is unprofitable, it must provide Flowers

Denver with written notice and a detailed financial analysis.

Finally, Brock signed a “Personal Guaranty,” under which he personally

guaranteed performance and compliance with the terms of the Distributor

Agreement. The Personal Guaranty includes an acknowledgment that Brock is

“subject to the Arbitration Agreement.” Id. at 79.

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II. Procedural Background

Brock filed this putative collective and class action against Flowers for

violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act and Colorado labor law. He alleges

that Flowers misclassifies its delivery-driver distributors as independent

contractors to systematically underpay its employees. Flowers moved to compel

arbitration under the FAA, 9 U.S.C. § 4, and to either dismiss or stay the case

pending the requested arbitration. Flowers argued that the parties’ Distributor

Agreement and Arbitration Agreement required Brock to arbitrate his claims

individually.

The district court denied Flowers’s motion. Brock v. Flowers Food, Inc.,

673 F. Supp. 3d 1180, 1190–91 (D. Colo. 2023). First, the court concluded that

Brock fell within the “transportation workers exemption” under § 1 of the FAA,

which exempts transportation workers engaged in interstate commerce from

arbitration. Id. at 1184–89. The district court concluded that Brock “belongs to

a class of workers who deliver Flowers goods in trucks to their customers, by

loading and unloading Flowers’ bakery products.” Id. at 1186. The court also

determined that Brock “actively engaged in the transportation of Flowers’

products across state lines into Colorado.” Id. at 1188. Second, the district

court rejected Flowers’s assertion that Brock was nevertheless required to

arbitrate under Colorado’s Uniform Arbitration Act. Id. at 1189–90. The court

noted that the Arbitration Agreement applied Colorado law only “to the extent

Colorado law is not inconsistent with the FAA.” Id. at 1190 (quoting the

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Arbitration Agreement). It had earlier concluded that Brock fell within the

FAA’s § 1 exemption for transportation workers—an exemption that did not

exist under Colorado law. Id. The court determined that the plain language of

the Arbitration Agreement therefore did not allow for arbitration under

Colorado law, because Colorado law was “inconsistent with” the FAA. Id. at

1190. Flowers timely appealed the district court’s decision.

STANDARDS OF REVIEW

We review de novo a district court’s decision to grant or deny a motion

to compel arbitration. Reeves v. Enter. Prods. Partners, LP, 17 F.4th 1008,

1011 (10th Cir. 2021). We accept the district court’s findings of fact, subject to

clear error review. In re Cox Enters., Inc. Set-top Cable Television Box

Antitrust Litig., 790 F.3d 1112, 1116 (10th Cir. 2015).

DISCUSSION

Flowers appeals the district court’s denial of arbitration. Its arguments

fall into two buckets—one based on the FAA and one based on Colorado law.

First, Flowers argues that the district court erred by concluding that § 1 of the

FAA exempted Brock from arbitration. According to Flowers, Brock does not

qualify for the § 1 exemption, because he does not directly engage in interstate

commerce. Flowers also asserts—for the first time on appeal—that the

Distributor Agreement is not a contract of employment and is therefore outside

the scope of § 1. Second, Flowers argues that the district court erred by finding

that the text of the Arbitration Agreement foreclosed arbitration under Colorado

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law. Flowers contends that the § 1 exemption did not create an “inconsistency”

with Colorado law but merely created a gap in arbitration enforcement that

Colorado law could freely fill. We start with the FAA challenge and then

review the Colorado law challenge.

I. The Arbitration Agreement is not enforceable under the FAA because Brock falls within § 1’s exemption for transportation workers.

The FAA promotes a “liberal federal policy favoring arbitration

agreements.” Moses H. Cone Mem’l Hosp. v. Mercury Constr. Corp., 460 U.S.

1, 24 (1983). Through the FAA, Congress sought to remedy the widespread

“hostility of American courts to the enforcement of arbitration agreements.”

Circuit City Stores, Inc. v. Adams, 532 U.S. 105, 111 (2001). Yet the FAA does

not authorize federal courts “to favor arbitration over litigation”; it makes

“arbitration agreements as enforceable as other contracts, but not more so.”

Morgan v. Sundance, Inc., 596 U.S. 411, 418 (2022) (internal quotation marks

omitted); cf. Waithaka v. Amazon.com, Inc., 966 F.3d 10, 24 (1st Cir. 2020)

(“[T]he FAA’s pro-arbitration purpose cannot override the original meaning of

the statute’s text.”).

Within this context, § 2 of the FAA provides that arbitration agreements

“shall be valid, irrevocable, and enforceable, save upon such grounds as exist at

law or in equity for the revocation of any contract.” 9 U.S.C. § 2. Though

courts must generally enforce valid arbitration agreements, § 1 of the FAA

carves out certain workers from the FAA’s purview: It exempts “contracts of

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employment of seamen, railroad employees, or any other class of workers

engaged in foreign or interstate commerce.” Id. § 1. In effect, § 1 shields

workers with these types of employment contracts from compelled arbitration

under the FAA.

This appeal deals with § 1’s residual clause—“any other class of workers

engaged in foreign or interstate commerce.” Id. The Supreme Court employs a

two-step framework to analyze whether an individual falls within this clause

(and therefore falls within the exemption). Sw. Airlines Co. v. Saxon, 596 U.S.

450, 455 (2022). First, we must “defin[e] the relevant ‘class of workers’ to

which [the individual] belongs.” Id. Second, we must “determine whether that

class of workers is ‘engaged in foreign or interstate commerce.’” Id.

We have jurisdiction under 9 U.S.C. § 16(a)(1) to review the district

court’s interlocutory order denying arbitration under the FAA. Here, though the

Arbitration Agreement requires that “any claim” be “determined exclusively by

binding arbitration,” the district court concluded that Brock qualified for the

exemption for transportation workers under § 1’s residual clause. Brock, 673

F. Supp. 3d at 1183, 1189. Specifically, the court determined that (1) Brock

“belongs to a class of workers who deliver Flowers goods in trucks to their

customers, by loading and unloading Flowers’ bakery products,” and (2) Brock,

as a member of this class of workers, is engaged in interstate commerce. Id. at

1186, 1188–89. Flowers asserts that the district court erred in finding that

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Brock fell within this exemption. We review the district court’s decision under

Saxon’s two-step framework.

A. We accept the district court’s defined class of workers.

At step one, Flowers initially argued on appeal that Brock is not a

“transportation worker” because he does not work in the transportation

industry. See Circuit City, 532 U.S. at 119 (“Section 1 exempts from the FAA

only contracts of employment of transportation workers.”). But it now concedes

that Bissonnette v. LePage Bakeries Park St., LLC, an intervening case, has

foreclosed this argument. 601 U.S. 246, 256 (2024) (“A transportation worker

need not work in the transportation industry to fall within the exemption from

the FAA provided by § 1 of the Act.”). Flowers does not otherwise challenge

the district court’s determination that Brock “belongs to a class of workers who

deliver Flowers goods in trucks to their customers, by loading and unloading

Flowers’ bakery products.” 4 Brock, 673 F. Supp. 3d at 1186. So we decline to

disturb this finding, and we accept that Brock is a transportation worker under

§ 1 of the FAA.

B. The class of workers is directly engaged in interstate commerce.

We now turn to the second step—whether the defined class of workers is

engaged in interstate commerce. As an initial matter, “neither Brock nor any

4 The district court provides another iteration of the defined class of workers as “independent distributors who load and unload Flowers bakery products.” Brock, 673 F. Supp. 3d at 1189. We treat this iteration of the defined class as identical to the one listed above. 11 Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 12

others he employed crossed state lines to deliver goods in connection with the

operation of his business.” App. vol. I, at 48, 73, 82, 120. This fact alone is not

dispositive. In Saxon, the Supreme Court reviewed the text of § 1 and

concluded that “any class of workers directly involved in transporting goods

across state or international borders falls within § 1’s exemption.” 596 U.S. at

457 (emphasis added). In holding that a class of airplane cargo loaders

“engaged in foreign or interstate commerce,” the Court rejected the view that

§ 1 exempts “only workers who physically move goods or people” across state

or international borders. Id. at 456–57, 461. The Court stated “[t]here could be

no doubt” that a worker who loads or unloads cargo “from a vehicle carrying

goods in interstate transit” is engaged in interstate commerce. Id. at 458–59

(cleaned up). Like the airplane cargo loaders in Saxon, Brock does not

physically cross state borders when delivering Flowers products from the

warehouse to his customers. Because Brock’s intrastate deliveries may still

qualify as engagement in interstate commerce, we closely examine Brock’s

intrastate delivery role in relation to the goods’ interstate journey.

To engage in interstate commerce, a class of workers “must at least play

a direct and ‘necessary role in the free flow of goods’ across borders.” Id. at

458 (quoting Circuit City, 532 U.S. at 121); see New Prime Inc. v. Oliveira,

586 U.S. 105, 108, 112–13 (2019) (noting the parties’ agreement that interstate

truckers are workers engaged in interstate commerce). We have yet to consider

whether a class of workers making intrastate deliveries can qualify as engaging

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in interstate commerce under § 1 of the FAA. But two circuits have found

circumstances where delivery drivers were engaged in interstate commerce

despite making wholly intrastate deliveries of interstate goods. See Waithaka,

966 F.3d at 26 (1st Cir. 2020); Rittmann v. Amazon.com, Inc., 971 F.3d 904,

919 (9th Cir. 2020). Other circuits have also addressed similar issues involving

rideshare drivers and food-delivery drivers. We therefore begin with an

overview of cases from other circuits for guiding principles and then analyze

Brock’s intrastate delivery route in relation to the goods’ interstate journey.

1. Legal Framework

We first review the legal landscape relevant to this appeal. Two lines of

cases help us define the boundary for when an intrastate delivery qualifies as

direct engagement in interstate commerce: (a) “Last-mile” delivery driver

cases, and (b) rideshare and food-delivery cases. We expound on both below.

a. Last-Mile Delivery Driver Cases

The First and Ninth Circuits have concluded that last-mile delivery

drivers—drivers who make the last intrastate leg of an interstate delivery

route—are directly engaged in interstate commerce. See Waithaka, 966 F.3d at

26; Rittmann, 971 F.3d at 919; see also Saxon, 596 U.S. at 457 n.2 (leaving this

question unresolved); but see Lopez v. Cintas Corp., 47 F.4th 428, 432–33 (5th

Cir. 2022) (concluding that last-mile delivery drivers did not engage in

interstate commerce because the interstate delivery ended once the goods were

unloaded at the local warehouse). Both circuits focused on whether the goods

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moved in a continuous interstate journey or as part of multiple independent

transactions.

In Waithaka, the First Circuit held that last-mile delivery drivers for

Amazon engaged in interstate commerce, despite transporting goods “entirely

within a single state.” 966 F.3d at 20, 26. The First Circuit looked to the

Supreme Court’s line of cases addressing the Federal Employers’ Liability Act

(FELA) for guidance on intrastate deliveries of interstate goods. Id. at 19–20.

FELA contains language identical to the FAA’s; it covers injuries that railroad

employees sustained if both the railroad and employee were “engaged in

interstate commerce” at the time of injury. Id. at 19. In the FELA cases, the

Court distinguished intrastate railroad workers who operated railroad cars

carrying “interstate freight,” Phila. & Reading Ry. Co. v. Hancock, 253 U.S.

284, 285–86 (1920), from those who operated cars carrying “intrastate freight,”

Ill. Cent. R.R. Co. v. Behrens, 233 U.S. 473, 477–78 (1914). The former are

“engaged in interstate commerce,” while the latter are not. Hancock, 253 U.S.

at 286; Behrens, 233 U.S. at 478. With this context, the First Circuit concluded

that last-mile delivery workers “who haul goods on the final [intrastate] legs of

interstate journeys are transportation workers engaged in interstate commerce.”

Waithaka, 966 F.3d at 26 (cleaned up).

Likewise, in Rittmann, the Ninth Circuit held that Amazon’s last-mile

delivery providers engaged in interstate commerce when transporting packages

in the final intrastate leg of the interstate journey. 971 F.3d at 915. The Ninth

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Circuit concurred with the First Circuit’s reasoning in Waithaka—a “nearly

identical case”—and applied that reasoning to the facts before it. Id. at 910,

915. It underscored that the “Amazon packages [that delivery providers] carry

are goods that remain in the stream of interstate commerce until they are

delivered.” Id. at 915. The Ninth Circuit distinguished the circumstances in

Rittmann from A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States, 295 U.S. 495

(1935). There, the Supreme Court concluded that the interstate transaction of

live poultry ended when the poultry reached the slaughterhouses for “slaughter

and local sale to retail dealers and butchers who in turn sold directly to

consumers.” A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp., 295 U.S. at 543. At that point, the

poultry “had come to a permanent rest within the state.” Id. Any sales to retail

dealers and butchers were “local sale[s].” Id. By contrast, the Ninth Circuit in

Rittmann stated that “Amazon packages do not ‘come to rest,’ at Amazon

warehouses,” so “the interstate transactions do not conclude at those

warehouses.” 971 F.3d at 916. The packages are held at the warehouse as “part

of a process by which a delivery provider transfers the packages to a different

vehicle for the last mile of the packages’ interstate journeys.” Id. The Ninth

Circuit determined that “[t]he interstate transactions between Amazon and the

customer do not conclude until the packages reach their intended destinations.”

Id. For that reason, the last-mile delivery drivers “are engaged in the movement

of interstate commerce.” Id.

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b. Rideshare and Food-Delivery Cases

On the other end of the spectrum, courts have declined to find direct

engagement in interstate commerce for app-based rideshare and food-delivery

drivers. See Cunningham v. Lyft, Inc., 17 F.4th 244, 253 (1st Cir. 2021);

Immediato v. Postmates, Inc., 54 F.4th 67, 78 (1st Cir. 2022); Singh v. Uber

Techs., Inc., 67 F.4th 550, 560 (3d Cir. 2023); Wallace v. Grubhub Holdings,

Inc., 970 F.3d 798, 802–03 (7th Cir. 2020); Capriole v. Uber Techs., Inc., 7

F.4th 854, 863–64, 866–67 (9th Cir. 2021). The First and Ninth Circuits’ cases

are particularly instructive because of their discussions contrasting rideshare

and food-delivery cases from last-mile-driver cases. We review those cases

below.

After Waithaka, the First Circuit refined its distinction between wholly

intrastate trips and intrastate trips occurring as part of an interstate journey. See

Cunningham, 17 F.4th at 250–51, 253; Immediato, 54 F.4th at 77–79. In

Cunningham, the First Circuit concluded that Lyft rideshare drivers who

transported passengers to and from Boston’s Logan Airport did not engage in

interstate commerce. 17 F.4th at 250–51, 253.

In reaching this decision, the First Circuit considered two scenarios from

United States v. Yellow Cab Co., 332 U.S. 218 (1947), overruled on other

grounds by Copperweld Corp. v. Indep. Tube Corp., 467 U.S. 752, 759–60

(1984). In the first scenario, railroads agreed to provide passengers with transit

when interstate rail journeys required passengers to disembark at one station

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and travel up to two miles to board another train at a different station. Yellow

Cab, 332 U.S. at 228. The railroads contracted with cab companies to transport

passengers between connecting stations. Id. The Yellow Cab Court held that

this first scenario implicated interstate commerce. Id. at 228–29. In the second

scenario, the rail passengers hailed taxi cabs during the cab drivers’ normal

local taxi service to and from stations. Id. at 230. The Court held that “such

transportation is too unrelated to interstate commerce.” Id.

Using the Yellow Cab scenarios for comparison, the First Circuit

concluded that the class of Lyft drivers more closely resembled the second

scenario because they “contract[ed] with the passenger as part of the driver’s

normal local service to take the passenger to the start (or from the finish) of the

passenger’s interstate journey.” Cunningham, 17 F.4th at 250. By contrast, the

First Circuit observed that the drivers in Waithaka more closely resembled the

first scenario:

Amazon (like the railroads in Yellow Cab) agreed with Amazon customers to transport goods interstate from their point of origin to the customer’s home. The local delivery drivers (like the taxi companies in the first scenario of Yellow Cab) then agreed with Amazon to carry the goods for a portion of that single interstate journey (“the so-called ‘last mile’”).

Id. at 251 (citations omitted).

The Yellow Cab scenarios informed the First Circuit’s reasoning again in

Immediato. The First Circuit held that couriers who delivered meals prepared at

local restaurants and goods sold by local retailers did not engage in interstate

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commerce. Immediato, 54 F.4th at 78. Citing Yellow Cab, it stated that being

engaged in interstate commerce “excludes intrastate transactions that bear only

a ‘casual’ or ‘incidental’ relationship to the interstate movement of goods or

people.” Id. at 79. The First Circuit distinguished Immediato from Waithaka: In

Waithaka, the customers bought goods directly from Amazon, Amazon

orchestrated the interstate movement of the goods, and Amazon arranged, as

part of the purchase, for the goods’ delivery directly to the customer. Id. at 78.

The Amazon delivery drivers thus engaged in interstate commerce. Id. at 74–

75. In Immediato, customers purchased goods from local vendors after the

goods had “already exited the flow of interstate commerce.” Id. at 78. These

local delivery drivers merely engaged in intrastate commerce. Id.

Similarly, in Capriole, the Ninth Circuit held that Uber drivers are not

“engaged in foreign or interstate commerce.” 7 F.4th at 863. The Ninth Circuit

invoked the Yellow Cab scenarios as well and concluded that the class of Uber

drivers more closely resembled the second scenario of local taxi services. Id. at

863–64. In contrasting Capriole’s rideshare drivers from Rittmann’s last-mile

drivers, the Ninth Circuit stated that “Uber drivers are unaffiliated, independent

participants in the passenger’s overall trip, rather than an integral part of a

single, unbroken stream of interstate commerce like [Amazon’s last-mile

delivery] workers.” Id. at 867.

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2. Analysis

We find the First and Ninth Circuits’ cases on this issue persuasive and

adopt their reasoning as guideposts for our own analysis. These cases suggest

that we should consider the following factors to determine if Brock’s intrastate

route formed a constituent part of the goods’ interstate journey or an entirely

separate local transaction: (1) the buyer-seller relationship between Flowers

and Brock, (2) the buyer-seller relationship between Brock and Brock’s

customers, and (3) the buyer-seller relationship, if any, between Flowers and

Brock’s customers. See Fraga v. Premium Retail Servs., Inc., 61 F.4th 228, 240

(1st Cir. 2023) (finding that First Circuit cases “suggest that the contractual

relationships among the various actors play an important role in determining

whether an intrastate trip is part of an integrated interstate journey”). In our

view, the third factor—any buyer-seller relationship between Flowers and

Brock’s customers—is key to whether the interstate leg of the goods’ journey

and Brock’s intrastate delivery of the goods form one continuous interstate

journey. 5

5 Though the facts here make the contractual relationships important to the outcome, we clarify that we do not foreclose the consideration of other factors in this analysis. See Singh v. Uber Techs. Inc., 939 F.3d 210, 227–28 (3d Cir. 2019) (listing potential factors, including the parties’ agreements, to consider in inquiry of whether a worker belonged to a class of transportation workers engaged in interstate commerce).

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Some diagrams may better illustrate the importance of a buyer-seller

relationship between Flowers and Brock’s customers to this case. Below, each

arrow represents a buyer-seller relationship. 6

As depicted in the first two diagrams, courts have found the final

intrastate leg of a journey to be part of a continuous interstate journey where

the product’s originating company contracts with both the customer and the

intrastate delivery driver.

(1) Yellow Cab scenario one: Affecting Interstate Commerce (Sherman

Act)

Customer

Railroad company

Cab Driver

See Yellow Cab, 332 U.S. at 228–29 (holding that cab drivers were “clearly a

part of the stream of interstate commerce” where railroads contracted with

drivers to provide same-city station transfers for rail customers traveling

interstate).

6 Yellow Cab considered interstate commerce in the context of the Sherman Antitrust Act. 332 U.S. at 225, 228–29. The Sherman Act “outlaws unreasonable restraints on interstate commerce.” Id. at 225. We recognize that “affecting interstate commerce” does not equate to being “engaged in interstate commerce.” See Cunningham, 17 F.4th at 251 (“The [Sherman] Act is broadly construed, whereas the FAA exception at issue here is narrowly construed. (citations omitted)). So a case that merely “affects” interstate commerce may not meet the threshold for being “engaged in interstate commerce.” We find the Yellow Cab scenarios to be useful comparators with cases under the FAA only to illustrate the various relationships between parties. 20 Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 21

(2) Amazon Last-Mile Drivers: Engaged in Interstate Commerce (FAA)

Amazon

Delivery Driver

See Cunningham, 17 F.4th at 251 (observing that Amazon’s last-mile drivers in

Waithaka resembled the first Yellow Cab scenario because Amazon contracted

with the local delivery driver and with the customer).

* * *

By contrast and as depicted in the next two diagrams, courts have found

the final intrastate leg of the journey to be wholly separate where the customer

has a separate relationship with the intrastate delivery driver.

(3) Yellow Cab scenario two: No Interstate Commerce (Sherman Act)

Railroad company buy transport service

See Yellow Cab, 332 U.S. at 230–31 (holding that cab drivers transporting rail

customers during the drivers’ normal local taxi service is “too unrelated to

interstate commerce”).

(4) Rideshare Drivers: Not Engaged in Interstate Commerce (FAA)

Airline buy transport service

Lyft Driver

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See Cunningham, 17 F.4th at 250–51 (finding that Lyft drivers with intrastate

routes did not engage in interstate commerce by transporting customers

traveling interstate to the airport and noting that this case matched the second

scenario in Yellow Cab).

And finally, we end with a diagram depicting the buyer-seller

relationships between Flowers, Brock, and the retail stores.

(5) Flowers and Brock’s Buyer-Seller Relationships:

Flowers resell & transport Flowers product

Brock

So we turn to examining the various relationships at play here. Flowers

argues that Brock operates a “fundamentally local” franchise business,

“whereby Brock Inc. purchases Flowers products and then sells those products

to its local customers in Colorado.” Flowers wants us to view the initial cross-

border delivery of goods as a wholly separate transaction from Brock’s

intrastate deliveries of the same goods to his customers. On a surface level, this

appears plausible: Brock operates his own business, takes title to the goods,

services his own customers, and can increase profits through various business

strategies of his choice. But on closer inspection, we view the situation

differently. Though Brock, Inc. and Flowers are different companies, they form

an integrated distribution chain, in which Flowers exercises a significant degree

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of control over Brock’s operations. This control makes it evident to us that

Brock serves as Flowers’s last-mile driver, because Flowers’s real interest lies

in delivering the baked goods to its true customer—the various retail stores on

Brock’s route, not Brock, Inc. See Rittmann, 971 F.3d at 916.

The Distributor Agreement, which governs the business relationship

between Brock, Inc. and Flowers Denver, reveals Flowers’s substantial

involvement in the operation of Brock, Inc. 7 At Brock, Inc.’s inception, Flowers

Finance, LLC, another Flowers entity, financed Brock’s purchase of the

distribution route. App. vol. I, at 87–90; see also id. at 260 (stating that a

Flowers subsidiary finances the route’s purchase price for most independent

distributors). From there, the Distributor Agreement restricts Brock, Inc.’s

operations in multiple ways. Certain provisions prevent Brock from selling

products that compete with Flowers goods in his territory, selling

noncompetitive products that interfere with the distribution of Flowers goods,

or terminating any unprofitable accounts without Flowers Denver’s approval.

Another provision requires Brock to cooperate with Flowers on marketing and

7 Brock alleges in his complaint that the Distributor Agreement does not reflect Flowers’s “actual” business model. He contends that in practice, “Flowers itself negotiates, carries out, and receives gross proceeds from the vast majority of bakery sales” and that he “do[es] not, in-fact, take title and then resell the products.” App. vol. I, at 14. We do not wade into this factual dispute, which the district court did not resolve in its order. Because the less- restrictive terms of the Distributor Agreement suffice to show a continuous interstate journey, we conclude that the district court did not need to resolve this factual dispute for us to decide the interstate commerce issue on appeal. 23 Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 24

sales efforts and to ensure his employees “maintain a clean and neat personal

appearance consistent with the professional image customers and the public

associate with [Flowers Denver].” Id. at 55.

The Distributor Agreement also requires Brock to remove stale products

from customers’ shelves “to protect the business reputation of both [Brock,

Inc.] and [Flowers Denver].” Id. at 61 (emphasis added). That provision

includes an offer from Flowers Denver to repurchase a certain percentage of

Brock’s stale products to motivate the removal of spoiled goods. Brock could

not sell out-of-code products, except for non-human consumption. And most

importantly, the Distributor Agreement obligates Brock, Inc. to use

“commercially reasonable best efforts to develop and maximize the sale” of

Flowers products in its territory. Id. at 55. Had the interstate delivery truly

ended, as Flowers claims, at the warehouse where Brock picks up the goods,

Flowers should not have cared about Brock’s actions after his receipt of the

goods. Yet the terms of the Distributor Agreement belie Flowers’s claim that

the goods “come to rest” at the warehouse.

Other terms of the Distributor Agreement evince Flowers’s continuing

control over the distribution route. For example, if Flowers Denver and Brock,

Inc. agree that a particular account is unprofitable, Flowers Denver can make

alternate distribution arrangements for that account. Brock is barred from

receiving any credit for sales associated with these alternate distribution

arrangements. If Brock fails to service his territory for any reason, Flowers

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Denver has the right to service the territory on its own accord (while Brock

pays a daily fee and any operating expenses) and even has the right to use

Brock’s delivery truck for that purpose (a truck the Distributor Agreement

required he purchase). Id. at 59, 62, 96. The Distributor Agreement provides

Flowers Denver and Flowers Finance, LLC with a security interest in Brock’s

distribution route, meaning Brock’s failure to pay any debts could revert

ownership of the distribution route to Flowers. The Distributor Agreement also

states that in the event of termination, Flowers Denver will operate the business

for Brock, Inc.’s account and sell Brock, Inc.’s distribution rights. These terms

ensure that Flowers Denver never actually loses access to Brock’s distribution

route. They demonstrate Flowers’s significant interest in the out-of-state goods’

continued route from the warehouse to various retail stores.

The terms of the Distributor Agreement also show the preserved

relationship between Flowers Denver and the retail stores that purchase Flowers

goods from Brock. One provision permits Flowers Denver to act on Brock,

Inc.’s behalf to obtain authorization to sell Flowers products to chain stores;

these authorization discussions include negotiating product space, position, and

pricing. 8 Another provision allows Flowers Denver to “continue carrying the

8 According to Flowers Foods, Inc.’s Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, in 2022, Walmart/Sam’s Club comprised 21.7% of customer sales, and Flowers’s top ten largest customers comprised 54.5% of sales. These statistics suggest that Flowers can directly interact with customers for a significant number of orders. 25 Appellate Case: 23-1182 Document: 75-1 Date Filed: 11/12/2024 Page: 26

accounts receivable” for all chain-store accounts and other major accounts. Id.

at 58. Flowers Denver can, at its sole discretion, approve various stores for

non-cash sales via electronic data with corresponding proof of delivery, charge

slips, store-generated authorizations, or other forms of payment authorizations.

Brock must also use Flowers’s proprietary administrative services, which

include “accumulation of sales histories,” “automated route book information,”

“individual customer sales profiles,” and “suggested orders for each customer.”

For customer pricing, Brock needs to adhere to all of Flowers’s promotions and

feature pricing for major accounts and chain-store accounts in his territory.

These terms give Flowers significant control over Brock’s business with his

customers and demonstrate Flowers’s intense interest in the goods’ delivery

route even after they reach the warehouse. We are thus not convinced that these

customers are merely “Brock’s” customers, rather than Flowers’s customers.

Indeed, even Flowers itself describes the various stores, not the independent

distributors, as its customers. In its 2022 Form 10-K filed with the Securities

and Exchange Commission, Flowers lists its customers as “mass merchandisers,

supermarkets, and other retailers.” Id. at 141.

Last, we review the mechanics of the delivery itself. Brock starts the

interstate-delivery process by placing orders for products produced in out-of-

state bakeries owned by Flowers. Flowers Denver then delivers the products to

the agreed-upon warehouse (owned by Flowers) and unloads the products for

Brock to pick up. Brock pays Flowers a fee to use the warehouse. In less than a

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day after the drop-off, Brock loads the products at the warehouse onto his

vehicle and delivers the goods to retail stores on his intrastate delivery route.

Viewing Brock’s intrastate delivery in the context of the Distributor

Agreement’s terms and the interstate route that came before it, we are

convinced that Brock serves as the last-mile driver for Flowers, such that he is

directly engaged in interstate commerce. 9 U.S.C. § 1. Like the last-mile

drivers in Waithaka and Rittmann, Brock’s intrastate delivery route forms the

last leg of the products’ continuous interstate route; he is “an integral part of a

single, unbroken stream of interstate commerce.” Capriole, 7 F.4th at 867. The

Flowers products do not “come to rest” at the warehouse. Rather, the

warehouse drop-off is “simply part of a process by which a delivery provider

transfers the packages to a different vehicle for the last mile of the packages’

interstate journeys.” Rittmann, 971 F.3d at 916. The significant control that

Flowers has over Brock, Inc.’s operations demonstrates that, for Flowers, the

goods’ delivery concludes at the various stores’ locations, not the warehouse.

See id. (“The interstate transactions between Amazon and the customer do not

conclude until the packages reach their intended destinations, and thus

[Amazon’s last-mile] drivers are engaged in the movement of interstate

commerce.”). For these reasons, Brock’s intrastate delivery of goods from the

warehouse to the various stores on his route is not an isolated transaction;

instead, his delivery route forms the last leg of an interstate route.

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Flowers attempts to rely on the line of cases involving rideshare drivers

and food-delivery drivers to support its position that Brock merely performs

local deliveries. We disagree. In both Wallace and Immediato, the food-

delivery drivers delivered food from local restaurants or convenience stores to

intrastate customers. Wallace, 970 F.3d at 802; Immediato, 54 F.4th at 78. Any

interstate transaction that occurred before the intrastate purchase, such as the

purchase of raw ingredients, was far too removed from the local transaction

that the delivery drivers engaged in. Wallace, 970 F.3d at 802; Immediato, 54

F.4th at 78. At no point did the customers “summon[] couriers for local

deliveries” to “buy[] goods as part of an interstate transaction.” Immediato, 54

F.4th at 78. The unnamed companies that sent the goods interstate to

restaurants and grocery stores had no interest or obligation to ensure the

couriers delivered those goods to consumers. The same reasoning applied to

rideshare drivers in Cunningham and Capriole. In both cases, the First Circuit

and Ninth Circuit concluded that the rideshare drivers “are unaffiliated,

independent participants in the passenger’s overall trip, rather than an integral

part of a single, unbroken stream of interstate commerce.” Capriole, 7 F.4th at

867; see Cunningham, 17 F.4th at 251 (concluding that the Lyft drivers’

intrastate trips to take their customers to interstate flights formed a separate

transaction from the flight itself due to the lack of any relationship between the

Lyft drivers and the airlines).

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By contrast, Brock places orders with out-of-state bakeries to commence

the interstate delivery of products. He picks up the products within a day of the

warehouse delivery, signs off on the products, loads the products onto his

vehicle, and delivers the products through the final intrastate leg of the trip.

And as discussed earlier in this section, Flowers retains significant control over

Brock, Inc., such that we view Flowers’s true customers as the various retail

stores and Brock as Flowers’s last-mile delivery driver. The rideshare and food-

delivery driver cases are therefore not an apt comparison.

Flowers also argues that we should follow the Fifth Circuit’s reasoning in

Lopez. There, the Fifth Circuit found that last-mile delivery drivers did not

engage in interstate commerce because “[o]nce the goods arrived at the

Houston warehouse and were unloaded, anyone interacting with those goods

was no longer engaged in interstate commerce.” Lopez, 47 F.4th at 433. The

Fifth Circuit focused on the last-mile drivers’ “customer-facing role” to support

its conclusion that they did not fall within the § 1 exemption. Id. We agree with

the district court’s decision to reject the reasoning in Lopez and similarly find it

unpersuasive. Brock, 673 F. Supp. 3d at 1188. As the district court noted, Lopez

included only an “abbreviated analysis of [the] class’s engagement with

interstate commerce”; it also does not provide much factual background for

comparison. Id. Given this context, we decline to follow Lopez.

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For these reasons, we conclude that Brock’s class of workers is engaged

in interstate commerce and therefore falls within the § 1 exemption. We find no

error in the district court’s ruling.

C. We decline to review whether the Distributor Agreement qualifies as a contract of employment.

As a last attempt to salvage the Arbitration Agreement’s enforcement

under the FAA, Flowers argues that the Distributor Agreement does not qualify

as a “contract of employment” for transportation services under § 1 of the FAA.

Flowers concedes that it failed to make this argument before the district court

but urges us to address the issue anyway. We have exercised our discretion to

consider a forfeited argument on appeal when the argument involves a “pure

matter of law and the proper resolution of the issue is certain.” United States v.

Jarvis, 499 F.3d 1196, 1202 (10th Cir. 2007). “But even for matters of law, we

decline to consider newly presented legal arguments unless the proper legal

disposition is beyond reasonable doubt.” Ave. Cap. Mgmt. II, L.P. v. Schaden,

843 F.3d 876, 886 (10th Cir. 2016). Reasonable doubt exists if an issue

“involves a matter of first impression in our circuit.” Id.

Whether a “contract of employment” under § 1 of the FAA extends to

contracts between corporate entities is a matter of first impression here. We

cannot determine if the Distributor Agreement between Flowers Denver and

Brock, Inc. qualifies as a contract of employment without addressing this issue.

Because the proper legal disposition is not beyond reasonable doubt, we decline

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to consider Flowers’s forfeited argument on appeal. See, e.g., GeoMetWatch

Corp. v. Behunin, 38 F.4th 1183, 1207 (10th Cir. 2022) (declining to consider

forfeited argument); Lone Star Steel Co. v. United Mine Workers of Am., 851

F.2d 1239, 1243 (10th Cir. 1988) (“Ordinarily, a party may not lose in the

district court on one theory of the case, and then prevail on appeal on a

different theory.”).

II. We do not have jurisdiction to consider Flowers’s state-law arguments.

Regardless of the Arbitration Agreement’s enforceability under the FAA,

Flowers argues that we can enforce the Arbitration Agreement under Colorado

law alone. Brock counters that we lack jurisdiction to consider an interlocutory

appeal based on state law. We agree with Brock’s assessment.

Section 16(a)(1) of the FAA allows us to review an interlocutory order

“denying a petition under section 4 of [the FAA] to order arbitration to

proceed.” 9 U.S.C. § 16(a)(1). But the FAA does not permit us to review

interlocutory orders denying arbitration based on state law. See Conrad v.

Phone Directories Co., 585 F.3d 1376, 1383 (10th Cir. 2009) (“[Section] 16(a)

permits interlocutory appeals only over those motions brought explicitly

pursuant to the FAA, or motions in which it is unmistakably clear that the

defendant seeks only the relief offered by the FAA.”). We therefore do not have

jurisdiction under § 16(a)(1) to review the district court’s denial of arbitration

under Colorado law. The remaining avenue for us to potentially exercise

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jurisdiction over this portion of Flowers’s appeal is pendent appellate

jurisdiction.

Under pendent appellate jurisdiction, we may “exercise jurisdiction over

an otherwise nonfinal and nonappealable lower court decision” given sufficient

overlap with an appealable decision. Paugh v. Uintah Cnty., 47 F.4th 1139,

1171 (10th Cir. 2022) (internal quotation marks omitted). “Pendent appellate

jurisdiction is a matter of discretion, not of right.” Walter v. Morton, 33 F.3d

1240, 1242 (10th Cir. 1994). “Our exercise of pendent jurisdiction is only

appropriate in either of two scenarios: (1) when the otherwise nonappealable

decision is inextricably intertwined with the appealable decision, or (2) where

review of the nonappealable decision is necessary to ensure meaningful review

of the appealable one.” Cummings v. Dean, 913 F.3d 1227, 1235 (10th Cir.

2019) (cleaned up). Neither applies here.

In the first scenario, an otherwise nonappealable decision is inextricably

intertwined with an appealable decision “if a ruling on the merits of the

interlocutory appeal . . . resolve[s] all of the remaining issues presented by the

pendent appeal.” United Transp. Union Loc. 1745 v. City of Albuquerque, 178

F.3d 1109, 1115 (10th Cir. 1999) (internal quotation marks omitted). Our

review of the nonappealable decision must “not require the consideration of

legal or factual matters distinct from those raised by the claims over which we

unquestionably have jurisdiction.” Malik v. Arapahoe Cnty. Dep’t of Soc.

Servs., 191 F.3d 1306, 1317 (10th Cir. 1999). Here, the district court found that

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the plain language of the Arbitration Agreement rendered Colorado’s Uniform

Arbitration Act inapplicable to this case. Brock, 673 F. Supp. 3d at 1189. To

review the district court’s denial of arbitration under Colorado’s Uniform

Arbitration Act, we would need to consider whether the Uniform Arbitration

Act is “inconsistent” with the FAA, as provided in the Arbitration Agreement

and if not, whether the Uniform Arbitration Act compelled Brock to arbitrate

his claims. See App. vol. I, at 86 (providing that the Arbitration Agreement

“shall be governed by the FAA and Colorado law to the extent Colorado law is

not inconsistent with the FAA”). These issues are distinct from the FAA ruling,

so the district court’s denial of compelled arbitration under the FAA is not

inextricably intertwined with its denial under Colorado law.

For the second scenario, a “review of the nonappealable decision is

necessary to ensure meaningful review of the appealable one” if “we are . . .

required to decide the core issues implicated in this ostensibly pendent matter”

to resolve the appealable one. Cummings, 913 F.3d at 1235–37 (cleaned up).

That does not apply here. The FAA and Colorado law form two separate bases

for potentially enforcing the Arbitration Agreement. We do not (and did not)

need to consider Colorado’s Uniform Arbitration Act to resolve the FAA issue

on appeal. Flowers has therefore failed to establish that we have pendent

appellate jurisdiction to review the district court’s decision under Colorado

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We are not persuaded by Flowers’s argument that § 16(a)(1) directly

confers appellate jurisdiction over Colorado law issues. Flowers asserts that the

text of § 16(a)(1), which permits appeals of any “order . . . denying a petition

under section 4 [of the FAA],” confers jurisdiction over “orders,” not issues. 9

U.S.C. § 16(a)(1). But this reading of § 16 elevates form over substance.

Flowers’s position would permit any litigant to use § 16 of the FAA as an

appellate fast-track by tacking on multiple issues to an arbitration request

invoking the FAA. As discussed in Conrad, we read the phrase “under section

4” as indicating that appellate jurisdiction “encompass[es] only those motions

explicitly brought under the FAA or unmistakably invoking its remedies, rather

than all motions founded at least in part on arbitration agreements.” 585 F.3d at

1382. Though Conrad dealt with a motion to dismiss containing two offhand

references to arbitration, id. at 1386, we conclude that the reasoning applies

here as well. The phrase “under section 4” means we have appellate jurisdiction

for the FAA issue, but not the Colorado-law issue. Cf. Palcko v. Airborne

Express, Inc., 372 F.3d 588, 594 (3d Cir. 2004) (“While we may review

Airborne’s appeal with respect to the FAA under 9 U.S.C. § 16(a), that section

does not cover our review of a non-FAA, state-law arbitration claim in an

otherwise nonappealable interlocutory order.”); Hamrick v. Partsfleet, LLC, 1

F.4th 1337, 1352 (11th Cir. 2021) (“[T]he interlocutory appeal section of the

Federal Arbitration Act doesn’t carve out an exception to the general rule for

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interlocutory orders denying motions to compel arbitration based on state

law.”).

We therefore find that we do not have jurisdiction over issues of

Colorado law in this case.

CONCLUSION

For these reasons, we affirm.