SETH, Chief Judge.
Opinion on Rehearing En Banc
The defendant was indicted for a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(h) and § 924(a) for receiving firearms shipped in interstate commerce after he had been convicted of a felony. Defendant was tried without a jury, found guilty, and given a suspended sentence. He took this appeal.
The basic issue on appeal is whether the defendant had been previously convicted as the Federal Act under which he was charged requires. Defendant had entered a plea of guilty under the Oklahoma Deferred Judgment Procedure, 22 O.S.Supp.1977 § 991c and the procedure was under way. This is the previous conviction charged in the indictment here considered.
18 U.S.C. § 924(a) contains the penalty provisions and the disclosure requirements. 18 U.S.C. § 922(h) provides in part: “It shall be unlawful for any person . who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable ... to receive any firearm . . . .” The Act contains definitions, but not a definition of “convicted in any court.” The courts have been left to determine whether certain procedures, which depart from the conventional, are, or result in, “convictions.” Thus was the defendant Stober “convicted in any court” during the course of the Oklahoma Deferred Judgment Procedure, 22 O.S.Supp. 1977 § 991c, in which he was involved at the time or before he acquired the firearm as alleged in the indictment. Before that question can be resolved we must determine what standards or definitions are to be applied *in deciding whether defendant Stober was “convicted in any court.”
The defendant urges that the statutes and decisions of the State of Oklahoma, where the proceedings were had, should be followed in determining whether he was there “convicted.” The Government would have the federal court where the firearm charge was brought apply its standards, or “federal” standards, and not necessarily follow state statutes and decisions.
[1276]*1276We hold that the state’s determination as to whether the proceedings constituted a “conviction” in its courts should have been followed by the federal trial court in this prosecution. It is obvious that there are “convictions” for some purposes and not for others in both the federal and state courts, for example, when the issue arises in the context of impeachment of a witness, as compared with recidivist statutes and most other purposes. The Oklahoma proceedings on which the indictment of defendant Stober was based were under the Oklahoma Deferred Judgment Act. This is not a deferred sentencing statute but a deferred judgment act. It provides in part: “Upon a verdict or plea of guilty, but before a judgment of guilt, the court may, without entering a judgment of guilt and with the consent of the defendant, defer further proceedings . . . .” Thus “further proceedings” are deferred before any judgment is entered on a plea. The statute twice says “before a judgment of guilt.” There was, of course, a plea of guilty by Stober, but under the Oklahoma procedure the court did not act on it to enter a judgment of guilt, and the plea was thus not accepted or rejected. In subsequent proceedings under the Act, the plea is withdrawn or is acted upon by the court.
Both experts on Oklahoma law who testified were of the opinion that ho conviction had resulted from the use of the procedure in Stober’s state charge.
The Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals has held that a “conviction” does not come about under the Deferred Judgment Procedure. Belle v. State, 516 P.2d 551 (Okl.Cr.), is directly on the issue, and Hefner v. State, 542 P.2d 527 (Okl.Cr.), before two of the same judges, appears to assume the same consequences and refers to Belle v. State. Thus under the decisions of the Oklahoma state court, the defendant was not convicted in the state court during that state proceeding which became an element in the federal charge here considered. There was no conviction in the Oklahoma state courts, and no determination of guilt, says Oklahoma law. The fact that there was no determination of guilt would seem to be significant, together with the admonitions in the statute that no judgment be entered, and the procedure whereby the plea is not acted upon. The evaluation and characterization of its own proceedings by the state should be determinative. The state is free to attach what consequences it wishes to violations of its laws. If the defendant Stober does not stand convicted in Oklahoma by the Oklahoma courts before whom the proceedings were had, it is difficult to see how the federal court can hold that he was convicted in the Oklahoma courts for to do so is to have him convicted by the federal court. In these circumstances, if the federal court’s test is used, it is entirely possible that another federal court could hold that the Oklahoma procedure did not result in a conviction. The matter can thus vary depending on venue; the defendant can be guilty in one jurisdiction but not in another. It would seem preferable to rely on the court where the proceedings were had to decide so there will be but one answer. It would not be a great burden on the federal courts to determine whether a defendant has been convicted by the court which tried him.
The term “convicted in any court” as used in the statute would not seem to have any unusual meaning, and the legislative history does not indicate that it should have. The term has no special significance as to the federal courts nor their internal procedure. No special rules of statutory construction are called for. There is no indication whatever of a “federal” meaning for such an ordinary phrase. It is a term in common usage, and we do not see that it means anything different from being convicted by the court which tried the accused. That court was really the only court which could convict; if he was not guilty there, he was not guilty for the purpose of making hi's act here concerned a crime. This position conforms with the observations as to the act generally in Barrett v. United States, 423 U.S. 212, 96 S.Ct. 498, 46 L.Ed.2d 450, which concerned the interstate transportation aspect, and in Huddleston v. United States, 415 U.S. 814, 94 S.Ct, 1262, [1277]*127739 L.Ed.2d 782. See also the general full faith and credit statute, 28 U.S.C. § 1738.
The “conviction in any court” is an element of the federal offense charged against Stober, and it must be established like any other element. There is no issue as to the admissibility of evidence — just proof of a necessary element. The requirement here is conviction in the Oklahoma court by the Oklahoma court. There is no issue of comity and no issue of preemption.
In R. F. C. v. Beaver County, 328 U.S. 204, 66 S.Ct. 992, 90 L.Ed. 1172 referred to by the parties, the issue was whether certain property of the R.F.C. could be taxed and whether it was “real property.” The Court in R. F. C. v. Beaver said:
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SETH, Chief Judge.
Opinion on Rehearing En Banc
The defendant was indicted for a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(h) and § 924(a) for receiving firearms shipped in interstate commerce after he had been convicted of a felony. Defendant was tried without a jury, found guilty, and given a suspended sentence. He took this appeal.
The basic issue on appeal is whether the defendant had been previously convicted as the Federal Act under which he was charged requires. Defendant had entered a plea of guilty under the Oklahoma Deferred Judgment Procedure, 22 O.S.Supp.1977 § 991c and the procedure was under way. This is the previous conviction charged in the indictment here considered.
18 U.S.C. § 924(a) contains the penalty provisions and the disclosure requirements. 18 U.S.C. § 922(h) provides in part: “It shall be unlawful for any person . who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable ... to receive any firearm . . . .” The Act contains definitions, but not a definition of “convicted in any court.” The courts have been left to determine whether certain procedures, which depart from the conventional, are, or result in, “convictions.” Thus was the defendant Stober “convicted in any court” during the course of the Oklahoma Deferred Judgment Procedure, 22 O.S.Supp. 1977 § 991c, in which he was involved at the time or before he acquired the firearm as alleged in the indictment. Before that question can be resolved we must determine what standards or definitions are to be applied *in deciding whether defendant Stober was “convicted in any court.”
The defendant urges that the statutes and decisions of the State of Oklahoma, where the proceedings were had, should be followed in determining whether he was there “convicted.” The Government would have the federal court where the firearm charge was brought apply its standards, or “federal” standards, and not necessarily follow state statutes and decisions.
[1276]*1276We hold that the state’s determination as to whether the proceedings constituted a “conviction” in its courts should have been followed by the federal trial court in this prosecution. It is obvious that there are “convictions” for some purposes and not for others in both the federal and state courts, for example, when the issue arises in the context of impeachment of a witness, as compared with recidivist statutes and most other purposes. The Oklahoma proceedings on which the indictment of defendant Stober was based were under the Oklahoma Deferred Judgment Act. This is not a deferred sentencing statute but a deferred judgment act. It provides in part: “Upon a verdict or plea of guilty, but before a judgment of guilt, the court may, without entering a judgment of guilt and with the consent of the defendant, defer further proceedings . . . .” Thus “further proceedings” are deferred before any judgment is entered on a plea. The statute twice says “before a judgment of guilt.” There was, of course, a plea of guilty by Stober, but under the Oklahoma procedure the court did not act on it to enter a judgment of guilt, and the plea was thus not accepted or rejected. In subsequent proceedings under the Act, the plea is withdrawn or is acted upon by the court.
Both experts on Oklahoma law who testified were of the opinion that ho conviction had resulted from the use of the procedure in Stober’s state charge.
The Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals has held that a “conviction” does not come about under the Deferred Judgment Procedure. Belle v. State, 516 P.2d 551 (Okl.Cr.), is directly on the issue, and Hefner v. State, 542 P.2d 527 (Okl.Cr.), before two of the same judges, appears to assume the same consequences and refers to Belle v. State. Thus under the decisions of the Oklahoma state court, the defendant was not convicted in the state court during that state proceeding which became an element in the federal charge here considered. There was no conviction in the Oklahoma state courts, and no determination of guilt, says Oklahoma law. The fact that there was no determination of guilt would seem to be significant, together with the admonitions in the statute that no judgment be entered, and the procedure whereby the plea is not acted upon. The evaluation and characterization of its own proceedings by the state should be determinative. The state is free to attach what consequences it wishes to violations of its laws. If the defendant Stober does not stand convicted in Oklahoma by the Oklahoma courts before whom the proceedings were had, it is difficult to see how the federal court can hold that he was convicted in the Oklahoma courts for to do so is to have him convicted by the federal court. In these circumstances, if the federal court’s test is used, it is entirely possible that another federal court could hold that the Oklahoma procedure did not result in a conviction. The matter can thus vary depending on venue; the defendant can be guilty in one jurisdiction but not in another. It would seem preferable to rely on the court where the proceedings were had to decide so there will be but one answer. It would not be a great burden on the federal courts to determine whether a defendant has been convicted by the court which tried him.
The term “convicted in any court” as used in the statute would not seem to have any unusual meaning, and the legislative history does not indicate that it should have. The term has no special significance as to the federal courts nor their internal procedure. No special rules of statutory construction are called for. There is no indication whatever of a “federal” meaning for such an ordinary phrase. It is a term in common usage, and we do not see that it means anything different from being convicted by the court which tried the accused. That court was really the only court which could convict; if he was not guilty there, he was not guilty for the purpose of making hi's act here concerned a crime. This position conforms with the observations as to the act generally in Barrett v. United States, 423 U.S. 212, 96 S.Ct. 498, 46 L.Ed.2d 450, which concerned the interstate transportation aspect, and in Huddleston v. United States, 415 U.S. 814, 94 S.Ct, 1262, [1277]*127739 L.Ed.2d 782. See also the general full faith and credit statute, 28 U.S.C. § 1738.
The “conviction in any court” is an element of the federal offense charged against Stober, and it must be established like any other element. There is no issue as to the admissibility of evidence — just proof of a necessary element. The requirement here is conviction in the Oklahoma court by the Oklahoma court. There is no issue of comity and no issue of preemption.
In R. F. C. v. Beaver County, 328 U.S. 204, 66 S.Ct. 992, 90 L.Ed. 1172 referred to by the parties, the issue was whether certain property of the R.F.C. could be taxed and whether it was “real property.” The Court in R. F. C. v. Beaver said:
“We think the Congressional purpose can best be accomplished by application of settled state rules as to what constitutes ‘real property,’ so long as it is plain, . do not effect a discrimination . or patently run counter to the terms of the Act.”
Also, evidentiary matters in the federal courts are peculiarly matters for determination by such courts. Thus in United States v. Turner, 497 F.2d 406 (10th Cir.), we held that the defendant could be impeached as a consequence of the plea under 22 O.S.Supp. 1973 § 991c, the statute here concerned. No evidentiary problems are present here, and the comparison does not help solve our problem. United States v. Beebe, 467 F.2d 222 (10th Cir.), was a typical suspended sentence following a jury guilty verdict. See also Braswell v. United States, 224 F.2d 706 (10th Cir.).
In United States v. Dotson, 555 F.2d 134 (5th Cir.), the Fifth Circuit held that where a district court had accepted a nolo plea “specifically withholding any adjudication of guilt,” there was no “conviction.” See also Lott v. United States, 367 U.S. 421, 81 S.Ct. 1563, 6 L.Ed.2d 940 (a question under Rule 34).
Significant statements relative to our problem appear in United States v. Place, 561 F.2d 213 (10th Cir.), where we considered a previous conviction in California ‘where defendant had pled guilty to grand theft. The offense was punishable by imprisonment up to ten years, but defendant was sentenced to a year in the county jail. Such imprisonment under California law made the offense a misdemeanor. There was no question whatever as to whether defendant had been convicted, and there was no question but that the possible penalty clearly met the federal statutory definition. The subsequent classification by the state of the offense was rejected. The only issue was the length of possible imprisonment, and clearly the federal statute had to be, and was, followed. We then said in United States v. Place, 561 F.2d 213 (10th Cir.):
“. . . [T]he term ‘convicted’ must be given a nonrestrictive interpretation. Once guilt has been established, by plea or verdict, and naught but sentencing remains, a defendant has been ‘convicted’ within the meaning of that word in question 8.b.”
In the case before us, of course, the guilt of defendant was not “established” by plea or otherwise because that determination was expressly reserved. The state statute expressly twice reserved it. Also, under Place it cannot be said that here “naught but sentencing remains.” Thus Place cannot be applied, and the “nonrestrictive” interpretation does not come into play because the assumptions necessary for its use are not here present. A “nonrestrictive interpretation” where a determination of guilt has been expressly withheld cannot be used to convict the defendant in the federal court by assuming or attaching guilt to this guilty plea. To do so is to have the federal court find defendant guilty of two offenses rather than none. There is no problem with a nonrestrictive interpretation in the usual guilt situation contemplated by Place, and it should be applied. Thus it says, “[ojnce guilt has been established, by plea or verdict.” Place did not hold that a federal rule as to convictions as such be applied because the only question presented was the length of sentence that could be served.
Thus the existence of a guilty plea does not provide an answer. It is a place to [1278]*1278start instead. A guilty plea often, and usually, constitutes a conviction, but not always, and this is one of the “not always” situations. What comes after is most significant. Place does not provide the answer either. This shows the merit in following the State of Oklahoma court decisions and statutes to decide under its Deferred Judgment Act the very limited consequence of Stober’s unaccepted plea. The Government refers to the state proceedings as one for “deferred sentence,” but they are not such and are of very different consequences.
In summary, the guilt of defendant Stober in the Oklahoma court was never determined, the plea was not accepted, judgment was withheld, and proceedings deferred. Such a plea need not be accepted. Kercheval v. United States, 274 U.S. 220, 47 S.Ct. 582, 71 L.Ed. 1009. Since guilt was not established as the Government asserts, as that matter was expressly withheld, there was no “conviction in any court.” The statutes and case law of Oklahoma so demonstrate. The defendant certainly was not convicted by the court which tried him, and under these circumstances the federal courts cannot hold he was convicted in the Oklahoma court. The defendant is entitled to, and must, rely on the jurisdiction in which he was charged. The federal courts must also rely on the state to determine whether there was a conviction. The federal courts cannot convict Stover, and others in his position, by their view or their several views. Again, the states can decide how to punish violations of their laws, not the federal courts.
The judgment is REVERSED and the case is REMANDED with direction to dismiss the indictment.