R. LANIER ANDERSON, III, Circuit Judge:
Appellants Alonzo Berrong and Jack McKay were convicted of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute, 21 U.S.C.A. § 841(a)(1) (West 1981), and of conspiracy to possess marijuana with intent to distribute, 21 U.S.C.A. § 846 (West 1981). Their appeal consists of several claims. We reject each of these claims and affirm the convictions. The only claim that merits any discussion concerns Berrong’s allegation that evidence was obtained from an illegal search of a marijuana field. The remainder of this opinion deals with this Fourth Amendment question.
FACTS
On July 30, 1981, Charles King of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (“GBI”) received information that marijuana was being grown on property owned by Lucy Berrong, wife of appellant Alonzo Berrong. On August 2, King rented a plane and a pilot and flew over the Berrong property. While flying approximately 800 feet above the ground, King was able to see the Berrongs’ property, including their home, a barn, a mobile home, a camper trailer, and what appeared to be a field containing marijuana. On August 4, King flew over the Berrongs’ property at 500 feet above ground, and he confirmed his prior observation that the field contained marijuana.
The next day, the GBI searched the marijuana field. At 7:15 a.m., a GBI ground observation crew arrived at the marijuana field after walking from a public road through woods and fields for almost two hours. The crew members concealed themselves in the woods surrounding the marijuana field in the hope of capturing the marijuana growers trying to harvest marijuana. Although the agents waited for nearly six hours, nothing happened. At 1:00 p.m., the agents searched the marijuana field and seized the marijuana.
The constitutionality of the search depends in part on the layout of the Berrongs’
property, specifically the relative location of the marijuana field and the Berrongs’ house. Although the record does not completely describe some points, the layout of the Berrongs’ property can be deduced from trial testimony.
The Berrong residence is located near U.S. Highway 76. A one-lane unpaved driveway leads from this highway to the Berrongs’ house. A mobile home and a barn were located next to the house. An old unusable Ford Mustang, lacking an engine and seats, stood next to the bam near the driveway, approximately 250 to 300 yards from the house. This Mustang contained an alarm system used to guard the marijuana field. Farther down the driveway were several other structures. These included a shed, a camper trailer which contained the alarm system’s receiver, a log cabin, and a small uncovered shed. Beyond the cabin and this last shed stood a line of trees which surrounded the marijuana field, a square area which covered one acre. The line of trees surrounding the field was 50 yards from the log cabin, 75 steps from the camper trailer, and approximately one-quarter of a mile from the Berrongs’ residential house. The record does not contain any particularized description of the boundaries of the Berrongs’ property. It seems that both the field and the camper trailer were located in an area leased by Berrong to persons whom the record does not identify.
DISCUSSION
The question for decision concerns the lawfulness of the search and seizure conducted on August 5, 1981.
The Fourth Amendment protects “[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.” U.S. Const, amend. IV. The government proceeds on the theory that the search and seizure was warrant-less.
A warrantless search and seizure is presumptively unreasonable, subject to a few specific exceptions.
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. 347, 357, 88 S.Ct. 507, 514,
19 L.Ed.2d 576 (1967). In this case, the government seeks to apply the so-called open fields doctrine as one of the specific exceptions.
The open fields doctrine evolved from Justice Holmes’ statement that the “special protection accorded by the 4th Amendment to the people in their ‘persons, houses, papers, and effects’ is not extended to the open fields.”
Hester v. United States,
265 U.S. 57, 59, 44 S.Ct. 445,446, 68 L.Ed.2d 898 (1924).
Hester v. United States
upheld a visual search conducted by two revenue officers while trespassing on the open fields of the defendant’s land. 265 U.S. at 58-59, 44 S.Ct. at 446. The Supreme Court has recently granted petitions of certiorari in three cases involving the application of the open fields doctrine.
A reading of the lower court opinions in these cases suggests that courts have divided as to how the open fields doctrine should be applied. That the
Hester
open fields doctrine remains with us in some form does not appear to be in dispute.
See Rakas v. Illinois,
439 U.S. 128, 143 n. 12, 99 S.Ct. 421, 430 n. 12, 58 L.Ed.2d 387 (1978);
G.M. Leasing Corp. v. United States,
429 U.S. 338, 352, 97 S.Ct. 619, 628, 50 L.Ed.2d 530 (1977);
United States v. Santana,
427 U.S. 38,42, 96 S.Ct. 2406,2409, 49 L.Ed.2d 300 (1976);
Air Pollution Variance Board
v. Western
Alfalfa Corp.,
416 U.S. 861, 865, 94 S.Ct. 2114, 2115-2116, 40 L.Ed.2d 607 (1974);
compare United States v.
Knotts,-U.S.-,-&-, 103 S.Ct. 1081,1085, & 1086, 75 L.Ed.2d 55, 62 & 64 (citation to Hester)
with United States
v.
Knotts,
-U.S. at-, 103 S.Ct. at 1088, 75 L.Ed.2d at 66 (1983) (Blackmun, J., concurring in the judgment) (majority opinion’s citation to the open fields doctrine is unnecessary).
As a general rule, the applicability of the Fourth Amendment does not focus on the question whether an area or a place is constitutionally protected,
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. 347, 350, 88 S.Ct. 507, 510, 19 L.Ed.2d 576 (1967), but rather whether the defendant can claim a “reasonable expectation of privacy.”
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. at 360, 88 S.Ct. at 516 (Harlan, J., concurring);
Smith
v.
Maryland,
442 U.S. 735, 740, 99 S.Ct. 2577, 2580, 61 L.Ed.2d 220 (1979). Analysis of such expectation proceeds in two parts. First, it must be determined whether the defendant “has shown that ‘he seeks to preserve [something] as private.’ ”
Smith v. Maryland,
442 U.S. at 740, 99 S.Ct. at 2580 (quoting
Katz v. United States,
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R. LANIER ANDERSON, III, Circuit Judge:
Appellants Alonzo Berrong and Jack McKay were convicted of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute, 21 U.S.C.A. § 841(a)(1) (West 1981), and of conspiracy to possess marijuana with intent to distribute, 21 U.S.C.A. § 846 (West 1981). Their appeal consists of several claims. We reject each of these claims and affirm the convictions. The only claim that merits any discussion concerns Berrong’s allegation that evidence was obtained from an illegal search of a marijuana field. The remainder of this opinion deals with this Fourth Amendment question.
FACTS
On July 30, 1981, Charles King of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (“GBI”) received information that marijuana was being grown on property owned by Lucy Berrong, wife of appellant Alonzo Berrong. On August 2, King rented a plane and a pilot and flew over the Berrong property. While flying approximately 800 feet above the ground, King was able to see the Berrongs’ property, including their home, a barn, a mobile home, a camper trailer, and what appeared to be a field containing marijuana. On August 4, King flew over the Berrongs’ property at 500 feet above ground, and he confirmed his prior observation that the field contained marijuana.
The next day, the GBI searched the marijuana field. At 7:15 a.m., a GBI ground observation crew arrived at the marijuana field after walking from a public road through woods and fields for almost two hours. The crew members concealed themselves in the woods surrounding the marijuana field in the hope of capturing the marijuana growers trying to harvest marijuana. Although the agents waited for nearly six hours, nothing happened. At 1:00 p.m., the agents searched the marijuana field and seized the marijuana.
The constitutionality of the search depends in part on the layout of the Berrongs’
property, specifically the relative location of the marijuana field and the Berrongs’ house. Although the record does not completely describe some points, the layout of the Berrongs’ property can be deduced from trial testimony.
The Berrong residence is located near U.S. Highway 76. A one-lane unpaved driveway leads from this highway to the Berrongs’ house. A mobile home and a barn were located next to the house. An old unusable Ford Mustang, lacking an engine and seats, stood next to the bam near the driveway, approximately 250 to 300 yards from the house. This Mustang contained an alarm system used to guard the marijuana field. Farther down the driveway were several other structures. These included a shed, a camper trailer which contained the alarm system’s receiver, a log cabin, and a small uncovered shed. Beyond the cabin and this last shed stood a line of trees which surrounded the marijuana field, a square area which covered one acre. The line of trees surrounding the field was 50 yards from the log cabin, 75 steps from the camper trailer, and approximately one-quarter of a mile from the Berrongs’ residential house. The record does not contain any particularized description of the boundaries of the Berrongs’ property. It seems that both the field and the camper trailer were located in an area leased by Berrong to persons whom the record does not identify.
DISCUSSION
The question for decision concerns the lawfulness of the search and seizure conducted on August 5, 1981.
The Fourth Amendment protects “[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.” U.S. Const, amend. IV. The government proceeds on the theory that the search and seizure was warrant-less.
A warrantless search and seizure is presumptively unreasonable, subject to a few specific exceptions.
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. 347, 357, 88 S.Ct. 507, 514,
19 L.Ed.2d 576 (1967). In this case, the government seeks to apply the so-called open fields doctrine as one of the specific exceptions.
The open fields doctrine evolved from Justice Holmes’ statement that the “special protection accorded by the 4th Amendment to the people in their ‘persons, houses, papers, and effects’ is not extended to the open fields.”
Hester v. United States,
265 U.S. 57, 59, 44 S.Ct. 445,446, 68 L.Ed.2d 898 (1924).
Hester v. United States
upheld a visual search conducted by two revenue officers while trespassing on the open fields of the defendant’s land. 265 U.S. at 58-59, 44 S.Ct. at 446. The Supreme Court has recently granted petitions of certiorari in three cases involving the application of the open fields doctrine.
A reading of the lower court opinions in these cases suggests that courts have divided as to how the open fields doctrine should be applied. That the
Hester
open fields doctrine remains with us in some form does not appear to be in dispute.
See Rakas v. Illinois,
439 U.S. 128, 143 n. 12, 99 S.Ct. 421, 430 n. 12, 58 L.Ed.2d 387 (1978);
G.M. Leasing Corp. v. United States,
429 U.S. 338, 352, 97 S.Ct. 619, 628, 50 L.Ed.2d 530 (1977);
United States v. Santana,
427 U.S. 38,42, 96 S.Ct. 2406,2409, 49 L.Ed.2d 300 (1976);
Air Pollution Variance Board
v. Western
Alfalfa Corp.,
416 U.S. 861, 865, 94 S.Ct. 2114, 2115-2116, 40 L.Ed.2d 607 (1974);
compare United States v.
Knotts,-U.S.-,-&-, 103 S.Ct. 1081,1085, & 1086, 75 L.Ed.2d 55, 62 & 64 (citation to Hester)
with United States
v.
Knotts,
-U.S. at-, 103 S.Ct. at 1088, 75 L.Ed.2d at 66 (1983) (Blackmun, J., concurring in the judgment) (majority opinion’s citation to the open fields doctrine is unnecessary).
As a general rule, the applicability of the Fourth Amendment does not focus on the question whether an area or a place is constitutionally protected,
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. 347, 350, 88 S.Ct. 507, 510, 19 L.Ed.2d 576 (1967), but rather whether the defendant can claim a “reasonable expectation of privacy.”
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. at 360, 88 S.Ct. at 516 (Harlan, J., concurring);
Smith
v.
Maryland,
442 U.S. 735, 740, 99 S.Ct. 2577, 2580, 61 L.Ed.2d 220 (1979). Analysis of such expectation proceeds in two parts. First, it must be determined whether the defendant “has shown that ‘he seeks to preserve [something] as private.’ ”
Smith v. Maryland,
442 U.S. at 740, 99 S.Ct. at 2580 (quoting
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. at 351, 88 S.Ct. at 511). Second, it must be determined whether the defendant’s subjective expectation of privacy is “one that society is prepared to recognize as ‘reasonable.’ ”
Katz v. United States,
389 U.S. at 361, 88 S.Ct. at 516-517 (Harlan, J., concurring).
The question whether appellant Berrong exhibited a subjective expectation of privacy need not detain us because, applying the second prong of the
Katz
test, we conclude that the expectation, if any, was not reasonable.
“Legitimation of expectations of pri
vacy by law must have a source outside of the Fourth Amendment, either by reference to concepts of real or personal property law or to understandings that are recognized and permitted by society.”
Rakas v. Illinois,
439 U.S. at 143 n. 12, 99 S.Ct. at 143 n. 12. Binding precedent clearly states “that there is no legitimate expectation of privacy in outbuildings and open fields, even if fenced, unless they are part of the curtilage, or the immediate appurtenances, of a home.”
United States v. Long,
674 F.2d 848, 853 (11th Cir.1982);
United States v. Williams,
581 F.2d 451, 453 (5th Cir.l978).
Although the distinction between the open fields and the curtilage of a home is not talismanic,
United States v. Jackson,
588 F.2d 1046,1053 n. 12 (5th Cir.),
cert. denied,
442 U.S. 941, 99 S.Ct. 2882, 61 L.Ed.2d 310 (1979), that distinction does reflect what expectations of privacy were reasonable in this case.
What is curtilage is a question of fact.
Hodges v. United States, 243
F.2d 281, 283 (5th Cir.1957);
Walker v. United States,
225 F.2d 447, 449 (5th Cir.1955). In denying the motions to suppress the evidence obtained in the search and seizure, the district judge viewed the photographs and the map of the property and said “the search of the field involved could not have been part of any curtilage or have been included in anything that anyone had a right of expectation of privacy of.” Record on Appeal, vol. 7, at 184-85. We uphold the district judge’s ruling. The curtilage of the home is formed by the buildings “constituting an integral part of that group of structures making up the farm home,”
Walker v. United States,
225 F.2d at 449, or “the immediate domestic establishment” of the home,
Hodges v. United States,
243 F.2d at 283. The “outer limits of the curtilage” have been expressly defined to be “the outer walls of the extreme outbuildings of the curtilage.”
United States v. Williams,
581 F.2d at 454. Since the marijuana field was located beyond all of the buildings on the Berrongs’ property, it was beyond the curtilage of the home. Moreover, the field was one-quarter of a mile from the home. At this distance, any expectation of privacy stemming from the home to the surrounding area was diminished. Absent any clear and specific demonstration of an expectation of privacy in the field, justified by custom or property concepts, the distinction between the curtilage and the open fields should be applied.
We hold that appellant did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the marijuana field. The search of the field and the seizure of the marijuana did not violate the Fourth Amendment.
AFFIRMED.