[235]*235Beasley, J.
Defendant, William Russell Huff, was convicted by a jury of larceny in a building in violation of MCL 750.360; MSA 28.592. After being sentenced to five years probation, with the first six months in the county jail, he appeals as of right.
Defendant’s chief argument on appeal is that the trial court erred in responding to his motion in chambers to prohibit any reference to a previous conviction for a similar offense. The trial court ruled:
"THE COURT: * * * The Defendant has made a Motion In Limine to prevent the Prosecutor from cross examining, if he takes the stand, on an issue of prior felony conviction.
"We discussed it in Chambers. It appears that the Defendant has a conviction. I assume it’s valid and that would be for larceny in a building.
"I’ve indicated in our opinion showing a conviction of that crime in a case where the Defendant is charged with the same type of crime, would be of such prejudicial nature that the jury would not be able to properly follow our instructions with that. That type of information could only be used for impeachment purposes and not in chief. It would be most difficult for them to follow.
"The Prosecutor, however, is suggesting, if that be the case, and the Defendant takes the stand, that he will not be committed to appear before the jury as though he had never had a conviction, and they, therefore, ask that they be permitted to ask him if he does not have a felony conviction on a given date and location, but not the details thereof.
"So, I’ve indicated I’ll grant your motion insofaras [sic] a reference to any specific conviction, Mr. Williams.
"MR. WILLIAMS: Your Honor, although that’s a better suggestion than allowing the actual prior charge to be brought before the jury, which is, of course, as pointed out, the same conviction that he’s being tried for today, we feel that any reference to any prior felony would be prejudicial to the Defendant’s rights to a fair [236]*236trial and that in effect he would have to have the option in his own mind not testifying in his defense which would be against a fair trial or taking the stand and having the Prosecutor bring up the fact that he has a prior felony conviction which, in my opinion, would be prejudicial to the jury being impartial in this case. And we have cited People versus Jackson, which does allow the Court to exercise his discretion.
"And evidently, the Michigan Rules of Evidence or Rule 609 still have not actually overruled the idea of People versus Jackson, that the Court does have discretion to completely eliminate the idea of allowing the Prosecutor to bring up the prior felony conviction.
"So for that reason, we would Move that the Court exclude any reference whatsoever to a felony. But in the alternative, to take up the Prosecutor’s suggestion, and if it’s allowed in, to only be in the way of a felony and not of a specific felony.
"THE COURT: The objection is that there should not be any evidence at all of a prior conviction, which would mean that the Michigan Rule of permitting such impeachment would be wrong. If it would apply to that concept, then it’s applicable to all convictions and I’m not the one to say that that policy decision shouldn’t be made, but even People versus Jackson indicates to the contra. And certainly MSA [sic] 609 indicates that it’s a study [sic] conviction of the Supreme Court that impeachment by this method is perfectly proper.
"So in view of that, unless there is some specific reason given why we shouldn’t permit the Prosecutor to ask the question of whether or not there was a prior felony conviction, we would authorize him to do that and not go into detail of that conviction.
"MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you, Your Honor.”
On trial, defendant did testify and the assistant prosecutor did ask him whether he had been convicted of a felony in another county in 1975.
In this case, a woman in a laundromat placed her wallet on a washing machine. She saw defendant walk past her in the aisle and then, while she [237]*237was loading clothes in the washer, she saw defendant’s hand reach out to the machine where her wallet was and then noticed her wallet was gone. She immediately went to where she had placed her wallet and when she found it was gone, she complained to the laundry manager. When defendant came out of the rest room where he had gone, the manager asked him if he had taken the wallet. He denied that he had. While the proofs pointed strongly toward defendant, they were not overwhelming. In some respects, the case could be said to hinge upon a one-on-one credibility issue.
The issue is, under the circumstances of this case, did the trial judge abuse his discretion by permitting the prosecution to impeach defendant by asking defendant whether he had been convicted of a felony in another county in 1975, but leaving with defendant the option of whether or not to specify the felony. We hold there was no abuse of discretion and affirm.
On January 5, 1978, effective March 1, 1978, the Supreme Court adopted the Michigan Rules of Evidence, Rule 609 of which, entitled Impeachment by Evidence of Conviction of Crime, covers the issue raised by defendant. Since defendant’s trial commenced April 25, 1978, MRE 609 controls. While the preamble provides that these rules of evidence are binding on Michigan courts, the Court invites challenge as to the wisdom of any rule, providing:
"In adopting these rules, the Court should not be understood as foreclosing consideration of a challenge to the wisdom, validity or meaning of a rule when a question is brought to the Court judicially or by a proposal for a change in a rule. * * * While these rules are binding on Michigan courts, the Court does not intend to preclude evidentiary objection in the trial [238]*238court based on a challenge to the wisdom, validity or meaning of a rule and development of a separate record so as to properly present the challenge for review by this Court.”
Since defendant did not avail himself of this procedure, we assume defendant accepts and we find he is bound by MRE 609. Specifically, we hold this is not a case where defendant attacks and seeks to amend MRE 609 so as to preclude absolutely any and all use of prior convictions to impeach as to credibility. We interpret MRE 609 to require the trial judge to exercise his discretion to decide whether the probative value of admitting evidence of previous convictions on the issue of credibility outweighs any possible prejudicial effect. MRE 609 provides:
"(a) General rule. For the purpose of attacking the credibility of a witness, evidence that he has been convicted of a crime shall be admitted if elicited from him or established by public record during cross-examination but only if
"(1) the crime was punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year under the law under which he was convicted, or the crime involved theft, dishonesty or false statement, regardless of the punishment, and
"(2) the court determines that the probative value of admitting this evidence on the issue of credibility outweighs its prejudicial effect.”1
Applying MRE 609 here, we note defendant’s prior conviction of larceny in a building meets [239]*239both requirements of MRE 609(a)(1), i.e., the maximum sentence exceeds one year and it is an offense involving theft and, perhaps, dishonesty. In addition, the prior larceny conviction occurred within the 10-year period delineated in MRE 609(b).
The discretion vested in the trial court to determine whether the probative value of admitting evidence of a prior conviction on the issue of credibility outweighs its prejudicial effect is, however, hedged in by limitations. E.g., in the within case, the trial court interpreted People v Baldwin2 to preclude admission in evidence for impeachment purposes of a conviction of a similar offense.
While a fair inference from Baldwin may be as the trial court indicated, the narrow holding was that it is reversible error for a trial court to hold, in exercising the discretion described in People v Jackson,3 that a previous conviction for an identical or similar offense is a factor favoring admission of such impeachment evidence. Baldwin holds nothing more. This is one limitation upon the trial court’s discretion.
In applying MRE 609(a), the underlying propositions should be remembered.
In a criminal case, a prior felony conviction is not substantive evidence that the defendant committed the offense for which he stands trial; thus, a prosecutor may not offer evidence that the defendant was previously convicted of a felony as part of his case in chief. The reason for this conclusion is that while a person who has previously committed a felony is more likely to commit a subsequent felony than one who has not, the mere probability is not, under the law, substantive evidence of [240]*240commission of the offense. Thus, as part of a prosecutor’s case in chief, such evidence is irrelevant and immaterial.
In this connection, it is well to remember that from time immemorial a basic police technique in solving crime has been to investigate those within the area at the time of the offense who are known to have committed similar crimes. The reason behind the investigative procedure is plain enough, namely, that a person who has been convicted of committing a felony is far more likely to repeat and commit another crime than someone who has not. Current studies support this conclusion, although there are differences of opinion as to the reasons for recidivism.4
Investigatory techniques are quite different than bases for admissibility of evidence. The fact that a person committed a felony yesterday, or last year, is not substantive evidence that he is the one who committed the felony under investigation today, even though it is far more likely that he committed the offense than one who has never committed such an offense before. Thus, as indicated, the prosecution is not entitled to offer evidence, as part of its case in chief, that a defendant has been previously convicted of a felony._ _
[241]*241The rules of evidence explicitly support this proposition:
"(b) Other crimes, wrongs, or acts. Evidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts is not admissible to prove the character of a person in order to show that he acted in conformity therewith. It may, however, be admissible for other purposes, such as proof of motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, scheme, plan, or system in doing an act, knowledge, identity, or absence of mistake or accident when the same is material, whether such other crime, wrongs, or acts are contemporaneous with, or prior or subsequent to the crime charged.”5
If a defendant testifies in his own defense, he, like any other witness, swears or affirms that his testimony will be true. In so doing, he places his reputation for truth and veracity in issue. As soon as he testifies, his character for truth and veracity and credibility are in issue.
A distinction must be drawn between general character and specific traits of character such as truth and veracity.6 This distinction is clearly drawn in People v Bouchee,7 where, after observing that the modern tendency has been to limit the inquiry to character evidence bearing solely on the witness’s truthfulness, the Court said:
"We hold, therefore, that character evidence offered to impeach or support a witness’s credibility, other than evidence of prior conviction for crime, must be limited to the particular character trait of truthfulness or untruthfulness.” (Footnote omitted.)_
[242]*242While the general Michigan rule is that taking the witness stand places the witness’s credibility-in issue and impeaching evidence is limited to that concerning the particular character trait of truthfulness, the use of evidence of prior conviction of a felony to impeach a witness falls in a special category which is now delineated in MRE 609. Once his character for truth and veracity is placed in issue, then testimony regarding that character trait is relevant.
It has long been the rule in Michigan that in a criminal case testimony of defendant’s good character is always admissible. Hamilton v The People8 is authority for that proposition. Of similar thrust is People v Mead.9 An accused party who is of good reputation is always entitled to the benefit of such proof.
More recently, in Hawley v United States,10 the court said:
"Evidence of good character or reputation of one charged with crime is always admissible. It is competent as evidence tending to generate a reasonable doubt of the guilt of the offense charged.”
In Shimon v United States,11 indicating defendant may put in evidence as to his good character, the court said:
"The term 'character’ witness is, of course, a misnomer, for it is reputation not character which is then the issue.”
The court also noted that a witness may not [243]*243testify as to specific facts, but only as to general repute.
These cases must be viewed together with MRE 404(a), which provides:
"(a) Character evidence generally. Evidence of a person’s character or a trait of his character is not admissible for the purpose of proving that he acted in conformity therewith on a particular occasion, except:
"(1) Character of accused. Evidence of a pertinent trait of his character offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the same; * *
MRE 608(a) must also be considered, which provides:
"(a) Reputation evidence of character. The credibility of a witness may be attacked or supported by evidence of reputation, but subject to these limitations: (1) the evidence may refer only to character for truthfulness or untruthfulness, and (2) evidence of truthful character is admissible only after the character of the witness for truthfulness has been attacked by reputation evidence or otherwise.”
We do not believe that these rules of evidence were intended to reverse the long-standing rule that permits a defendant in a criminal case to testify that he has never been convicted of a felony. Rule 404 is limited in its application to the situation where the purpose of offering the evidence is to show that a person acted in conformity with the particular character trait on a particular occasion. One rationale in support of the proposition that Rule 608 does not modify the long-standing rule is that when the prosecution charges a defendant with commission of a crime and offers proof to support the charge, then a sufficient attack has been made upon the defendant’s charac[244]*244ter to justify permitting him to testify and offer testimony regarding his good character, namely, that he has not been convicted of a felony.
Thus, in general we conclude that evidence that a defendant has not been convicted of a previous felony is relevant, material and admissible. It is one fact in support of a conclusion that he is possessed of good character and that his testimony is worthy of belief.
Where a defendant testifies in his own defense, evidence that he is not of good character and is not worthy of belief would appear to be equally relevant, but this relevance is tempered and modified by MRE 404 and MRE 608, as indicated. Under MRE 609, when the evidence takes the form of a conviction of a previous felony, while perhaps equally relevant, such evidence is not necessarily admissible.
At this point, it should be noted that where evidence of a previous felony conviction is admitted, the following jury instruction is always required to be given:
"There is evidence that the defendant has [a] prior criminal conviction[s]. This evidence is to be considered by you only insofar as it may affect the defendant’s credibility [believability] as a witness. It must not be considered by you as evidence of his guilt of this crime, nor should it be considered by you as increasing the probability of his having committed the crime.”12
The evidence of a previous felony conviction is not always admissible because it is felt that there is a great risk that a jury will fail to follow the court’s instruction and will treat the evidence as substantive proof of guilt. There is also a feeling [245]*245that a jury will consider that since defendant has already committed a felony he is a "bad guy” and should be punished regardless of the substantive evidence in the case at hand.
It should be noted that these conclusions must, of necessity, rest upon speculation since there is no foolproof way to know how or whether a jury (or a particular juror) reaches a decision. The fear or concern in law which gives rise to these decisions and rules is usually alluded to as fear of "prejudicing” the jury and is a fear that the juror will translate the probability into substantive evidence of commission of a crime and perhaps convict a defendant where there otherwise is insufficient substantive evidence of guilt. For these reasons, Michigan courts have, by both rules of evidence adopted by the Supreme Court and by case law, greatly limited the use of prior felony convictions to impeach a defendant’s credibility.
In some respects, these exclusionary rules run counter to current trends which place greater confidence in jurors. By all odds, jurors are better informed, better educated and more sophisticated than in earlier times. The trend is against holding evidence back from juries out of fear that they will be unable to understand. Permitting career felons to hide behind a judicially erected wall of silence and keeping from jurors facts regarding their character based upon speculation that it will confuse jurors in deciding guilt or innocence is not universally believed to be either wise or fair. There is some difference of opinion on this subject and leaving trial judges an area of discretion, as MRE 609 seems to do, is a desirable compromise.
In the within case, in applying MRE 609(a)(2), the trial judge gave effect to People v Baldwin, supra, and held that the fact that defendant’s [246]*246previous felony conviction was also for larceny in a building was a factor militating against permitting it to be used to impeach. But he believed that it was unfair to permit defendant to testify and by silence to leave the jury with the impression that he had no previous felony conviction. We believe that his concern was justified.
The previous conviction for larceny in a building was relevant to the issue of defendant’s credibility. Larceny in a building involves theft and dishonesty. Where, as here, there was in part a one-on-one credibility issue, the jury was entitled to assess defendant’s credibility in the light of the relevant facts, including the fact defendant had been previously convicted of a felony. Clearly, there was proper probative value attached to defendant’s previous and recent conviction of larceny in a building.
We agree with the trial judge that to have permitted the defendant to testify without the jury knowing he had been convicted of a felony would not have produced a fair trial in this case. So the trial judge sought a compromise. To avoid the effects held undesirable in Baldwin, supra, and yet to avoid misleading the jury regarding the true facts pertaining to defendant’s reputation for truth and veracity, he permitted the prosecution to impeach by asking defendant if he had been convicted of a felony in 1975, but without specifying the felony.
On appeal, defendant argues that this was unfair because the jury may have speculated that he had been previously convicted of a much more serious and heinous crime, for example, criminal sexual conduct, first degree. He says then the jury might conjecture that he was a really bad person and find him guilty without regard to the truth of [247]*247his denial. The answer to this argument is that if he, in fact, did fear that scenario he had the option to reveal to the jury that his previous conviction was for larceny in a building. He reasons (as in Baldwin, supra) that in that case the jury might convict him on the unfair basis that because he did it before he did it again. The answer to that argument is that where his previous oifense involves dishonesty, theft or false statement, he loses the benefit of Baldwin as here interpreted by the trial court.
The end result of following defendant’s position is to permit defendant to testify without the jury knowing he was previously convicted of a felony. As indicated, we, like the trial judge, are reluctant to permit such a result. In this case, we believe the method elected by the trial judge was the most fair and reasonable to both sides of the alternatives available to him. Where a defendant testifies in his own defense, his character for honesty is placed in issue and evidence of past conviction of a felony is relevant. While precautions should be carefully taken to instruct the jury that such evidence goes only to credibility and is not substantive evidence, we doubt that juries are going to convict innocent defendants as a result of this procedure. By the same token, we do not believe juries should be misled into believing such defendants have no previous criminal record.
In these speculations as to how jurors will react, we would prefer to err on the side of giving the jury all of the relevant facts with a correct and proper instruction on the law. In this case, we believe it would be more unfair for this victim of crime, who has no criminal convictions, to have her credibility matched against the credibility of defendant without the jury knowing that defen[248]*248dant has less than three years earlier been convicted of a felony (when, in fact, defendant’s earlier felony involved theft and dishonesty), than for defendant to run the risk that he will be prejudiced by the jury believing that he is a "bad man” by virtue of his previous felony conviction and, thus, is guilty of the felony with which he is charged. We do not find the trial court’s solution to be an abuse of discretion.
We also believe prosecutors must be prevented from overemphasizing or repeating evidence of previous felony convictions. We would not be inclined to permit a prosecutor to cross-examine a defendant in detail regarding the facts and circumstances and the nature and the details of a previous felony conviction. This poses a far greater danger of prejudicing a jury than permitting the one question regarding a previous conviction that was permitted here.
We recognize that on this issue there is a split of authority on this Court.13 Since we here deal with a matter of speculation over what goes on in the minds of jurors, it is not surprising that there is a difference of opinion.
The position we take here has found support in other states. For example, in State v Adams,14 where defendant was charged with abortion and murder based on abortion, he testified on direct examination to four previous abortion-type convictions. Upon cross-examination, he was again asked by the prosecutor about the convictions, including a reference to the nature of the offense (abortion). [249]*249The court overruled these objections and from those rulings defendant appealed.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court, at 436-437 said:
"This court has consistently held that proof of a former conviction of a defendant in a criminal action may be received but that nothing except the mere fact of conviction may be shown. * * * Such testimony has been permitted solely for the purpose of going to the credibility of the witness. * * *
"When the defendant admitted upon his direct examination that he had been previously convicted the entire purpose of the rule permitting proof of previous convictions had been accomplished and there was no occasion or need for either the defendant or the district attorney to go into further detail. * * * The purpose of the rule is not to prejudice the minds of the jury by showing that the defendant had been guilty of another crime, particularly, as in this case, the same crime for which he was on trial.”
In Sebastian v Kentucky,15 the Kentucky court said:
"For impeachment purposes, Rutherford could be asked whether or not he had been convicted of a felony, but not the nature of the felony.”
We interpret MRE 609(a)(2) to place discretion in the trial court to weigh the probative value against the prejudicial effect. We believe that is where it belongs. In so doing, we fully indorse the following definition of discretion:
"We have held repeatedly, and we again hold, that we will not interfere with the discretion of the trial chancellor in these cases unless a clear abuse thereof is manifest in the result reached below. The kind of determination before us requires a weighing of human [250]*250and economic factors of the utmost complexity, a weighing that can best be accomplished at the local level, not in these chambers. * * * Where, as here, the exercise of discretion turns upon a factual determination made by the trier of the facts, an abuse of discretion involves far more than a difference in judicial opinion between the trial and appellate courts. The term discretion itself involves the idea of choice, of an exercise of the will, of a determination made between competing considerations. In order to have an 'abuse’ in reaching such determination, the result must be so palpably and grossly violative of fact and logic that it evidences not the exercise of will but perversity of will, not the exercise of judgment but defiance thereof, not the exercise of reason but rather of passion or bias.”16
Regarding the Michigan cases, we note People v Jones17 rested on the two cases of Luck v United States18 and Gordon v United States,19 both decided in intermediate Federal appellate courts. In Gordon, the court said:
"Luck also contemplated that it was for the defendant to present to the trial court sufficient reasons for withholding past convictions from the jury in the face of a statute which makes such convictions admissible. * * * The underlying assumption was that prior convictions would ordinarily be admissible unless this burden is met. 'The trial court is not required to allow impeachment by prior conviction every time a defendant takes the stand in his own defense.’ ” (Footnote omitted.)
The Gordon opinion went on to say that to bar the use of previous convictions as impeachment the court must find that the prejudice far out[251]*251weighs the probative relevance to credibility. The court then further said:
"The burden of persuasion in this regard is on the accused; * * *.” (Emphasis added.)
We would also note that the leading Michigan case of People v Jackson, supra, cites and places heavy reliance upon the cited Federal cases of Gordon and Luck, supra. Under these circumstances, we believe that People v McCartney,20 People v Killebrew21 and People v Jones, supra, are in error in holding that the burden of proof is on the prosecution to establish that the probative value outweighs the possible prejudicial effect. We suggest that the rule is to the contrary, as indicated from the above quotations from Gordon.
In People v Crawford,22 the Court adopted a three part test for deciding when a criminal record should be excluded from evidence. The three factors to be weighed are first, the nature of the prior offense, namely, did it involve an offense which directly bears on credibility. Clearly, in this case, the previous offense bore on credibility. Second, the question posed is whether it is for substantially the same conduct for which the defendant is on trial. Clearly, in this case, it is because the offenses are the same, namely, larceny in a building. Thus, coming to the third test, there is a stand-off. The third test is the effect on the decisional process if the accused does not testify out of fear of impeachment by use of the prior conviction.
In this case, the defendant did testify and did [252]*252tell the jury his side of the story. Consequently, by the standards of Crawford, we believe that the within procedure adopted by the trial judge was not clearly erroneous.
In summary, we hold the trial judge correctly applied MRE 609. He exercised his discretion and found the probative value of admitting evidence of the prior conviction on the issue of credibility outweighed any possible prejudicial effect on the jury, interpreted Baldwin, supra, to prohibit him from specifying the previous felony because it was for the same offense which defendant was charged with committing here, namely, larceny in a building, and exercised his discretion to permit inquiry of whether defendant had been convicted of a felony in 1975, while leaving defendant with an option whether to reveal what the prior felony conviction was for. Evidence of defendant’s 1975 felony conviction was relevant to the issue of defendant’s credibility, and it was neither an abuse of discretion nor clearly erroneous to so rule.
In conclusion, we find there was no abuse of discretion in permitting the prosecution to impeach the defendant by asking him whether he had been, three years previously, convicted of a felony, where defendant was given the option of whether or not to specify the felony.
We hold defendant’s other claims of error to be without merit.
Affirmed.
G. R. Deneweth, J., concurred.