Per Curiam.
This is an appeal from a judgment filed in the Third Circuit Court on October 14, 1968, awarding costs and interest to plaintiffs-appellants and against defendant-appellee, Liggett & Myers Tobacco Company (herein referred to as L & M).
Earlier, plaintiffs had appealed to this court from a circuit court judgment, entered pursuant to a jury verdict, [347]*347dismissing their action as against L & M on the merits and adjudging defendant George Iwamoto liable to plaintiffs for the payment of compensatory damages in the sum of $23,578.45, plus costs of court. On June 26, 1968, this court affirmed the circuit court judgment of December 11, 1964, with respect to Iwamoto and reversed with respect to L & M, and remanded the case to the circuit court with directions to enter judgment for plaintiffs and against Iwamoto and L & M in the amount of compensatory damages found by the jury, with costs of court. Lucas v. Liggett & Myers Tobacco Company, 50 Haw. 477, 442 P.2d 460 (1968).
On September 11, 1968, the circuit court entered the judgment against L & M. On September 16,1968, plaintiff moved for Approval and Taxation of Costs and Interest. The circuit court granted some costs, refused to grant others, granted interest after July 15,1968, and refused to grant interest for the period between December 11, 1964, and July 15, 1968.
Appellant specifies the following as errors by the trial court warranting reversal: (1) failing to award as a cost the fee paid by appellants to their expert 'witness; and (2) failing to award interest for the period between the initial Third Circuit Court judgment dated December 11, 1964, and the subsequent judgment of said court, upon remand, dated October 14, 1968.
I.
We hold that plaintiffs are not entitled to recover expert witness fees. Scott v. Kona Development Co., 21 Haw. 408, 423 (1913). HRS § 607-12; HRS § 607-9; HRS § 602-16.1
[348]*348We note that this court has the power to revise the rules so that expert witness fees could be recovered.2
II.
The issue of interest for the period between 1964 and 1968 is more complex. We begin with the proposition that interest is compensatory in nature, not punitive, and it is for this reason that interest is properly given to a plaintiff from the date of conversion of his property by a defendant until the date judgment is satisfied. There is no sound reason why a plaintiff should not be able to recover a loss in earnings of an asset which defendant converted. See [349]*34964 Yale L.J. 1020 (1955); 38 Notre Dame Lawyer 58, 59 (1962); 15 Stan. L. Rev. 107, 108 (1962).
This rule is not only rational, it is also well established. E.g., Redfield v. Ystalyfera Iron Co., 110 U.S. 174, 176 (1884):
Interest is given on money demands as damages for delay in payment, being just compensation to the plaintiff for a default on the part of his debtor.
From the briefs, there appears to be some confusion on this point in Hawaii. Plaintiffs rely upon Moll v. Bark “George”, 1 Haw. 484, 487 (1856), which held
that the plaintiff is entitled to recover, as damages for the detention of property, the interest on its value and compensation for any deterioration in value of the property during its detention.
Plaintiffs also cite Silva v. Homen, 9 Haw. 14 (1893), a case involving the wrongful conversion of certain goods belonging to the plaintiff, where this court held that:
The measure of damages is the value of the goods at the time of conversion, with interest to the time of trial____
Defendants rely upon Lowrey v. Territory, 20 Haw. 112, 113 (1910), which refused to allow prejudgment interest, relying upon a statute which provided:
No interest shall be allowed on any claim up to the time of the rendition of judgment thereon by the court, unless upon a contract expressly stipulating for the payment of interest. [R.L.H. § 2007 (1905)]
This statute is now compiled with amendments as HRS § 661-8, and it is applicable only to suits by and against the state. Since defendant L & M can hardly consider itself the state, its reliance upon Lowrey is sadly misplaced.
The most revealing case on prejudgment interest is City and County of Honolulu v. Caetano, 30 Haw. 1 [350]*350(1927). The City condemned Caetano’s property, and Caetano received a money judgment to compensate him for the value. Oaetano failed to ask for prejudgment interest in the suit itself. He asked for it six months after judgment had been entered, and the court refused to grant it.3 Before reaching this conclusion, however, it was (a) determined that although this was a condemnation case, the issue of interest would be governed by the general law since there was no special provision for interest in condemnation cases; (b) determined that the applicable statute on interest was R.L.H. 1925 § 3586, which provided:
Interest at the rate of six per cent, per annum, and no more, shall be allowed on any judgment recovered before any court in the Territory, in any civil suit.
(c) intimated that the constitutional requirement of just compensation required that plaintiff have an opportunity to prove interest as a part of his damages, and (d) clearly held that in Hawaii prejudgment interest should be allowed wherever it is properly proved.
We think the better rule is that prejudgment interest should be allowed, and we affirm the view of Oaetano that the relevant statute on interest4 does not preclude this result.' It is argued that the words “on any judgment” should be interpreted to require that interest begin only when judgment is rendered. But we hold that the statute does not preclude interest before judgment. We prefer this construction because it produces the more equitable [351]*351result, and because there is no reason to reverse our interpretation of this statute in Gaetano.
Having determined that interest may be granted as to a time period before a judgment is entered,, we conclude that this court had the power to include interest for the period between 1964 and 1968 in our 1968 decision. The plaintiff did not, however, include in his 1968 appeal a prayer for this interest. Plaintiff had asked for reversal as to L & M and for a new trial as to damages against L & M. When we reversed in 1968, no new trial was necessary since the amount of damages had already been fixed by a jury.
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Per Curiam.
This is an appeal from a judgment filed in the Third Circuit Court on October 14, 1968, awarding costs and interest to plaintiffs-appellants and against defendant-appellee, Liggett & Myers Tobacco Company (herein referred to as L & M).
Earlier, plaintiffs had appealed to this court from a circuit court judgment, entered pursuant to a jury verdict, [347]*347dismissing their action as against L & M on the merits and adjudging defendant George Iwamoto liable to plaintiffs for the payment of compensatory damages in the sum of $23,578.45, plus costs of court. On June 26, 1968, this court affirmed the circuit court judgment of December 11, 1964, with respect to Iwamoto and reversed with respect to L & M, and remanded the case to the circuit court with directions to enter judgment for plaintiffs and against Iwamoto and L & M in the amount of compensatory damages found by the jury, with costs of court. Lucas v. Liggett & Myers Tobacco Company, 50 Haw. 477, 442 P.2d 460 (1968).
On September 11, 1968, the circuit court entered the judgment against L & M. On September 16,1968, plaintiff moved for Approval and Taxation of Costs and Interest. The circuit court granted some costs, refused to grant others, granted interest after July 15,1968, and refused to grant interest for the period between December 11, 1964, and July 15, 1968.
Appellant specifies the following as errors by the trial court warranting reversal: (1) failing to award as a cost the fee paid by appellants to their expert 'witness; and (2) failing to award interest for the period between the initial Third Circuit Court judgment dated December 11, 1964, and the subsequent judgment of said court, upon remand, dated October 14, 1968.
I.
We hold that plaintiffs are not entitled to recover expert witness fees. Scott v. Kona Development Co., 21 Haw. 408, 423 (1913). HRS § 607-12; HRS § 607-9; HRS § 602-16.1
[348]*348We note that this court has the power to revise the rules so that expert witness fees could be recovered.2
II.
The issue of interest for the period between 1964 and 1968 is more complex. We begin with the proposition that interest is compensatory in nature, not punitive, and it is for this reason that interest is properly given to a plaintiff from the date of conversion of his property by a defendant until the date judgment is satisfied. There is no sound reason why a plaintiff should not be able to recover a loss in earnings of an asset which defendant converted. See [349]*34964 Yale L.J. 1020 (1955); 38 Notre Dame Lawyer 58, 59 (1962); 15 Stan. L. Rev. 107, 108 (1962).
This rule is not only rational, it is also well established. E.g., Redfield v. Ystalyfera Iron Co., 110 U.S. 174, 176 (1884):
Interest is given on money demands as damages for delay in payment, being just compensation to the plaintiff for a default on the part of his debtor.
From the briefs, there appears to be some confusion on this point in Hawaii. Plaintiffs rely upon Moll v. Bark “George”, 1 Haw. 484, 487 (1856), which held
that the plaintiff is entitled to recover, as damages for the detention of property, the interest on its value and compensation for any deterioration in value of the property during its detention.
Plaintiffs also cite Silva v. Homen, 9 Haw. 14 (1893), a case involving the wrongful conversion of certain goods belonging to the plaintiff, where this court held that:
The measure of damages is the value of the goods at the time of conversion, with interest to the time of trial____
Defendants rely upon Lowrey v. Territory, 20 Haw. 112, 113 (1910), which refused to allow prejudgment interest, relying upon a statute which provided:
No interest shall be allowed on any claim up to the time of the rendition of judgment thereon by the court, unless upon a contract expressly stipulating for the payment of interest. [R.L.H. § 2007 (1905)]
This statute is now compiled with amendments as HRS § 661-8, and it is applicable only to suits by and against the state. Since defendant L & M can hardly consider itself the state, its reliance upon Lowrey is sadly misplaced.
The most revealing case on prejudgment interest is City and County of Honolulu v. Caetano, 30 Haw. 1 [350]*350(1927). The City condemned Caetano’s property, and Caetano received a money judgment to compensate him for the value. Oaetano failed to ask for prejudgment interest in the suit itself. He asked for it six months after judgment had been entered, and the court refused to grant it.3 Before reaching this conclusion, however, it was (a) determined that although this was a condemnation case, the issue of interest would be governed by the general law since there was no special provision for interest in condemnation cases; (b) determined that the applicable statute on interest was R.L.H. 1925 § 3586, which provided:
Interest at the rate of six per cent, per annum, and no more, shall be allowed on any judgment recovered before any court in the Territory, in any civil suit.
(c) intimated that the constitutional requirement of just compensation required that plaintiff have an opportunity to prove interest as a part of his damages, and (d) clearly held that in Hawaii prejudgment interest should be allowed wherever it is properly proved.
We think the better rule is that prejudgment interest should be allowed, and we affirm the view of Oaetano that the relevant statute on interest4 does not preclude this result.' It is argued that the words “on any judgment” should be interpreted to require that interest begin only when judgment is rendered. But we hold that the statute does not preclude interest before judgment. We prefer this construction because it produces the more equitable [351]*351result, and because there is no reason to reverse our interpretation of this statute in Gaetano.
Having determined that interest may be granted as to a time period before a judgment is entered,, we conclude that this court had the power to include interest for the period between 1964 and 1968 in our 1968 decision. The plaintiff did not, however, include in his 1968 appeal a prayer for this interest. Plaintiff had asked for reversal as to L & M and for a new trial as to damages against L & M. When we reversed in 1968, no new trial was necessary since the amount of damages had already been fixed by a jury.
Once the 1968 appeal had been decided with no mention of interest, plaintiff could have moved under Rule 60(b) (1) for relief from his excusable neglect in failing to ask for interest. Rocky Mountain Tool & Machine Co. v. Tecon Corp., 371 F.2d 589, 597 (1967). This motion would most appropriately have been made in this court, since it was the mandate of this court which plaintiff sought to alter. However, the cases have allowed such a motion to be made in the trial court. Tribble v. Bruin, 279 F.2d 424 (4th Cir. 1960). Plaintiff did request interest from the circuit court within the “reasonable time” required by Rule 60(b), but he did not mention Rule 60(b) in his motion for interest.
Even if plaintiff had mentioned Rule 60(b), the circuit court was powerless to add interest to our mandate without first obtaining leave of this court. Tribble, supra. Since the plaintiff’s motion for interest has now been brought to our attention on this appeal, we treat this proceeding as one in which our leave is sought for the circuit court to consider the motion. We could simply grant our leave on the ground that plaintiff’s failure to ask for interest in his 1968 appeal was a clear case of excusable neglect within the meaning of Rule 60(b)(1), and re[352]*352maud the case to the circuit court for determination of the interest due. But we hesitate to prolong this already extended litigation unnecessarily. Therefore we consider the motion as though addressed to this court, and hold that plaintiff is entitled to interest for the period in question. The rate of interest sought by plaintiff in his motion is 6%, the principal $23,578.45,5 the time period from December 11, 1964, to July 15, 1968: 6% X $23,578.45 X 3.59 years = $5,078.77.
Tom O. Leuteneker (Carlsmith, OarlsmitJi, Wichman and Case of counsel) for plaintiffs-appellants.
Yalta A. Cook (Kanemitsu & Cook of counsel) for defendant-appellee.
Reversed and remanded for entry of judgment in conformity with this opinion.