ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO DISMISS
SAMUEL CONTI, District Judge.
I, INTRODUCTION .
Plaintiffs Arkansas Teacher Retirement System and State-Boston Retirement Sys[1189]*1189tem (“Plaintiffs”) bring this putative securities class action against Netflix, Inc. (“Netflix”); Netflix Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board, and CEO Reed Hastings (“Hastings”); current Netflix CFO David Wells (“Wells”); and Barry McCarthy (“McCarthy”), Netflix’s CFO until December 10, 2010 (collectively “Defendants”).
Now before the Court is Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss Plaintiffs’ First Amended Consolidated Class Action Complaint. ECF Nos. 105 (“FAC”), 108 (“Mot”). The motion is fully briefed, ECF Nos. 110 (“Opp’n”), 111 (“Reply”), and is suitable for determination without oral argument, Civ. L.R. T — 1(b). For the reasons set forth below, the Court GRANTS Defendants’ Motion to. Dismiss and DISMISSES the CCAC with prejudice.
II. BACKGROUND
A. Factual Overview
Netflix is a public corporation that purports to be the leading Internet subscription service for viewing movies and television shows (collectively “movies”). FAC ¶ 3. Netflix currently allows consumers to watch movies either by streaming them over the Internet directly to their televisions, computers, or mobile devices, or by receiving DVDs sent to their homes. Id.
Netflix provided no streaming services — only DVDs by mail — from 1999 to 2007. Id. ¶¶ 38-49. In 2007 Netflix began to allow its subscribers to stream movies via the “hybrid plan,” the only plan it offered at the time, which allowed subscribers both to stream movies and to receive DVDs. Id. ¶ 41.
In November 2010, as part of its plan to develop its streaming services further, Netflix decided to offer its subscribers a stand-alone streaming plan in addition to the hybrid plan. Id. ¶ 57. The hybrid plan cost $9.99 per month, and the new streaming-only- plan cost $7.99 per month. Id. Shortly before this change, in October 2010, Defendants explained that the expansion of Netflix’s streaming business would depend partly on its continually adding customers who wanted streaming content. Id. ¶¶ 51-52. Those customers’ subscription payments would fuel the acquisition of more streaming content, attracting still more streaming-focused customers; Id. Netflix also planned to offset some of the increasing content costs by decreasing DVD-related expenditures. See id. ¶¶ 51-53. Netflix’s increasing focus on streaming was partly driven by its conclusion that more people were joining Netflix and subscribing to the hybrid plan to use streaming, but not renting any DVDs. Id.
During the Class Period, Netflix’s subscriber count steadily increased each quarter. Id. ¶ 54; cf. 199-200. Its stock price followed suit, rising from a closing price of $153.15 on October 20, 2010 to a high of $298.73 on July 13, 2011. Id. ¶¶ 12, 55, 64. On July 12, 2011, however, Netflix announced that effective September 1, 2011 for existing subscribers and immediately for new ones, it would no longer offer its hybrid plan. Id. ¶ 122. Instead, it would offer separate DVD-only and streaming-only plans, both for $7.99 per month. Id. Subscribers who previously had access to both DVD and streaming services for $9.99 per month under the hybrid plan would now have to pay $15.98 to subscribe to the new, separate plans. Id. Netflix’s subscribers were unhappy, and Netflix experienced a net loss in customers for the first time in years. See id. ¶ 143.
Netflix’s fortunes fell further in September 2011. First, on September 2, the cable channel Starz announced that it would not renew its streaming contract with Netflix effective February 28, 2012. Id. ¶ 129.
[1190]*1190Second, on September 15, Netflix reported that it expected to lose one million subscribers during the third quarter of 2011 — the first quarter in years that would close with a net loss in subscribers. Id. ¶¶ 136, 199-200. After the announcement, Netflix’s stock price dropped by $39.46 to close at $169.25. Id. ¶¶ 136-37. Nevertheless, Netflix stood behind its decision as “the right choice.” Id. ¶ 380.
Third, on September 19, 2011, Netflix announced that it planned to spin off its DVD services into a new subsidiary called “Qwikster.” Id. ¶ 125. Netflix planned to continue to provide streaming services via its own subscription plans and website, separately from the Qwikster subsidiary. Id. Netflix’s customers again recoiled from this change, and Netflix lost still more subscribers. See id. ¶¶ 136-37; see also Def.’s RJN Ex. 3, at 15.1 Netflix soon abandoned the Qwikster idea, but continued its planned separation of the DVD-only and streaming-only plans, thereby doing away with the hybrid plan altogether. See FAC ¶¶ 122,127.
Shortly thereafter, on October 24, 2011, in documents related to the fourth quarter of 2011 (“4Q11”), Netflix began to report discrete financial information for the now-entirely-separate DVD-only and streaming-only plans — information that had previously been unavailable. Id. ¶ 141. In its 4Q11 reports, Netflix announced that its “contribution margin for domestic streaming [would] be low in 4Q11 at around 8% ... due to [its] increasing content spend,” whereas Netflix’s DVD business had a contribution profit of 50-52%. Id. ¶ 142. Netflix continued to stand by its decision to offer the DVD and streaming subscription plans as separate services with separate prices, but admitted that it had made the change too quickly, compounding the problem “with [a] lack of explanation about the rising cost of the expansion of streaming content, and steady DVD costs.” Id. ¶ 210. Netflix also stated that more long-term members canceled their subscriptions in response to the pricing changes than expected, thereby making Netflix’s 4Q11 profits and revenues lower than predicted, though Netflix would remain profitable overall. Id. After this announcement, Netflix’s stock price fell $41.47 per share to close at $77.37 per share on October 25, 2011. Id. ¶ 211.
Plaintiffs, Netflix shareholders, now sue Defendants for alleged violations of the federal securities laws. Their claims are all based on the theory that, between October 20, 2010 and October 24, 2011 (the “Class Period”), Defendants misled investors about the prospects of the new streaming-focused model, thereby artificially inflating Netflix’s stock price and leading to a stock drop of almost 67 percent after the alleged falsity of those statements was revealed.
Plaintiffs allege that all Defendants violated Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, 15 U.S.C. § 78j(b), and Securities Exchange Commission (“SEC”) Rule 10b-5; that the individual Defendants violated Section 20(a) of the Act; and that Hastings violated Section 20A of the Act. Id. ¶¶ 330-55.
B. Procedural Summary
The previous pleading in this case, Plaintiffs’ Consolidated Class Action Com[1191]*1191plaint, was the subject of a motion to dismiss decided on February 13, 2013. ECF Nos. 89 (“CCAC”), 102 (“Order”). The CCAC asserted the same causes of action as the FAC, though Plaintiffs’ underlying theories then were based on their allegations that Defendants made false and misleading statements about: (1) Netflix’s accounting practices, which Plaintiffs asserted were in violation of Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (“GAAP”) and SEC disclosure rules; (2) the virtuous cycle, which was Netflix’s name for its business model of acquiring streaming content and consequently increasing and retaining streaming-focused customers; (3) streaming’s profitability relative to that of the DVD business; (4) Netflix’s pricing changes; and (5) disclosures to the SEC.
The Court 'dismissed Plaintiffs’ CCAC because it found that (1) Plaintiffs’ accounting arguments were not plausible; (2) Defendants’ statements about the virtuous cycle were not false or misleading; (3) Defendants did not mislead their customers about streaming’s profitability; (4) none of Defendants’ statements about the pricing changes were false or misleading; and (5) Defendants’ correspondence with the SEC was not actionable. The Court gave Plaintiffs leave to amend their complaint to plead new facts supporting their allegation that Defendants made false or misleading statements during the Class Period. Plaintiffs filed the FAC on March 22, 2013, and the motion at bar ensued.
III. LEGAL STANDARDS
A. Motion to Dismiss
A motion to dismiss under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6) “tests the legal sufficiency of a claim.” Navarro v. Block, 250 F.3d 729, 732 (9th Cir.2001). “Dismissal can be based on the lack of a cognizable legal theory or the absence of sufficient facts alleged under a cognizable legal theory.” Balistreri v. Pacifica Police Dep’t, 901' F.2d 696, 699 (9th Cir.1988). “When there are well-pleaded factual allegations, a court should assume their veracity and then determine whether they plausibly give rise to an entitlement to relief.” Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556 U.S. 662, 679, 129 S.Ct. 1937, 173 L.Ed.2d 868 (2009). However, “the tenet that a court must accept as true all of the allegations contained in a complaint is inapplicable to legal conclusions. Threadbare recitals of the elements of a cause of action, supported by mere conclusory statements, do not suffice.” Id. (citing Bell All. Corp. v. Twombly, 550 U.S. 544, 555, 127 S.Ct. 1955, 167 L.Ed.2d 929 (2007)). A court’s review is generally “limited to the complaint, materials incorporated into the complaint by reference, and matters of which the court may take judicial notice.” Metzler, 540 F.3d at 1061 (citing Tellabs, 551 U.S. at 322, 127 S.Ct. 2499).
B. Section 10(b)
Section 10(b) of the Exchange Act makes it unlawful “[t]o use or employ,- in connection with the purchase or sale of any security registered on a national securities exchange ... any manipulative or deceptive device or contrivance in contravention of such rules and regulations as the [Securities and Exchange] Commission may prescribe. ...” 15 U.S.C. § 78j(b). One such rule prescribed by the Commission is Rule 10b-5, which states that “[i]t shall be unlawful for any person ... [t]o engage in any act, practice, or course of business which operates or would operate as a fraud or deceit upon any person, in connection with the purchase or sale of any security.” Í7 C.F.R. § 240.10b-5(c). Plaintiffs must plead five elements to establish a violation of Rule 10b-5: “(1) a material misrepresentation or omission of fact, (2) scienter, (3) a connection with the purchase or sale [1192]*1192of a security, (4) transaction and loss causation, and (5) economic loss.”2 In re Daou Sys., 411 F.3d 1006, 1014 (9th Cir. 2005).
Plaintiffs must also meet the heightened pleading standards of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 9(b) and the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (“PSLRA”), 15 U.S.C. § 78u-4. The PSLRA requires plaintiffs to “specify each statement alleged to have been misleading [and] the reason or reasons why the statement is misleading.” 15 U.S.C. § 78u-4(b)(1). Additionally, the complaint must “state with particularity facts giving rise to a strong inference that the defendant acted with the required state of mind.” Id. § 78u~4(b)(2). The “required state of mind” for establishing securities fraud is the knowing, intentional, or deliberately reckless disclosure of false or misleading statements. See Daou, 411 F.3d at 1014-15. “The stricter standard for pleading scienter naturally results in a stricter standard for pleading falsity, because falsity and scienter in private securities fraud cases are generally strongly inferred from the same set of facts, and the two requirements may be combined into a unitary inquiry under the PSLRA.” Id. at 1015 (internal quotation marks omitted).
IV. DISCUSSION
A. Plaintiffs’Section 10(b) Claim
Plaintiffs’ theory of Defendants’ liability is essentially that Defendants knew streaming would be relatively less profitable than DVD offerings, but decided to tell the public that Netflix’s shift to streaming would be a good thing for the company. See Opp’n at 11-17. Plaintiffs allege that throughout the Class Period, Defendants sold stock at prices their own statements artificially inflated, despite knowing that the truth would sink the company’s stock price. Id. According to Plaintiffs, Defendants’ statements and omissions led to Netflix’s stock crash after the disparate contribution margins of DVD and streaming became public in October 2011. See Opp’n at 6.
Defendants argue that they were never required to disclose any information about streaming’s profitability before they actually did so; that they never made any affirmative statements about the profitability of streaming; that they disclosed the risks of their business’s focus on streaming; and that Defendants had no knowledge that contradicted what they told the public. See MTD at 1-3.
The same cases the Court discussed in its previous Order, namely Matrixx Initiatives, Inc. v. Siracusano, — U.S. -, 131 S.Ct. 1309, 1321-22, 179 L.Ed.2d 398 (2011), and Brody v. Transitional Hospitals Corp., 280 F.3d 997, 1006 (9th Cir.2002), control here. Matrixx and Brody establish the rules that companies can control what they disclose publicly, and that Section 10(b) and Rule 10b-5(b) do not create affirmative duties to disclose “any and all material information”: they need only disclose what is necessary to render statements, in the light of the circumstances under which they were made, not misleading. Matrixx, 131 S.Ct. at 1321-22. This is a context-sensitive rule, and the additional case Plaintiffs now cite, Berson v. Applied Signal Technology, Inc., 527 F.3d 982, 986-87 (9th Cir.2008), did not change that.
Berson concerned a defendant company that had specifically touted its backlog of anticipated revenues from uncompleted but still-extant contracts. See id. The [1193]*1193company did not disclose that some of those backlogged contracts were,' at the time defendant made its disclosures, subject to stop-work orders that would not result in any value for the company. Id. The truth was therefore very different from what the defendant had led its investors to believe: the defendant touted its backlogged contracts as a source of value, when in fact those contracts were valueless. Id. Since the defendant touted those contracts anyway, it had a duty to disclose the truth about the stop-work orders even though it could have avoided such a duty by refusing to mention either the backlogs or the stop-work orders. Id. at 987.
Berson is inapposite. Plaintiffs’ argument is essentially that as soon as Netflix began to discuss its focus on streaming, it had a duty to disclose all manner of information about streaming’s margins relative to DVD’s, even if that information simply did not exist. See Opp’n at 14-15. But this takes Berson too far. Berson concerned a discrete statement that hid the truth behind what the defendants had said. See 527 F.3d at 987.
In this case, as explained more fully below, Plaintiffs fail to plead that Defendants made such a statement. The closest they come is to allege that Defendants discussed the risks of their shift to streaming in context of many other factors, including overall margins, and Berson specifically treats- these kinds of candid statements of risk differently from companies’ boasts about certainties. 527 F.3d at 987 (“[One type of statement] indicates a risk, the other a certainty. It goes without saying that investors would treat the two differently.”). Moreover, Berson’s rule on discrete statements does not map to a factual situation in which plaintiffs have not shown — as discussed below — that defendants possess actual knowledge that a statement was false. Berson accordingly does not change the general rules the Court must apply in cases like this one.
To prove that Defendants’ statements were false and misleading, Plaintiffs have to show that Defendants both knew of streaming’s disparate profitability as compared to DVD’s and had a duty to disclose that in tandem with the public statements that Plaintiffs cite. See Matrixx, 131 S.Ct. at 1321. Plaintiffs must also plausibly allege that Defendants’ statements would have been misleading to a reasonable investor, either on their own or as a result of an omission. See id. at 1322-23. The Court addresses Plaintiffs’ new pleadings first, then considers the pleadings that are essentially unchanged from the CCAC.
All of Plaintiffs’ substantive allegations of falsity are based on their contentions that Defendants misrepresented or failed to disclose these general facts: “(i) the shift to streaming presented significant financial challenges to Netflix because it was far more expensive and far less profitable than DVD; (ii) streaming’s relative profitability as compared to DVD was minimal; [] (iii) the soaring costs of the Streaming Business were not offset by the decreased costs of mailing in the DVD Business”; and (iv) giving “the impression that streaming is consistent with a 30-35% contribution margin, when, as later revealed, it was only at 8%.” FAC ¶¶ 153-56, 160-61, 164-65,168-70, 176-79, 183-86, 188-92.
1. Plaintiffs’ New Allegations
As noted above, Plaintiffs’ FAC is almost the same as their CCAC. Plaintiffs cite three new statements from Defendants or their agents, and expand on several more statements. All of these statements concern Defendants’ alleged knowledge of the truth about Netflix’s streaming component’s profitability and effect on Netflix’s margins. Plaintiffs [1194]*1194also add a new Confidential Witness, “CW3,” who discusses the same matter.
June 2, 2011 Statement: Plaintiffs quote part of a Nomura Securities U.S. Media Summit Call, on which Netflix was allegedly represented by non-defendant Ted Sarandos. FAC ¶ 185. Mr.' Sarandos answered an analyst’s questions about what has changed to increase Netflix’s flow of content, what the biggest changes in physical réntal were, and what the biggest changes or drop-offs in terms of usage were. Id. Mr. Sarandos ■ said that (1) Hollywood did not run its business with Netflix’s mentality, which is “willing to kill our existing business to move on to the next one”; (2) people were mostly joining Netflix for streaming, so Netflix had been focusing on streaming while DVD ran “calmly on its own”; and (3) while DVD was still profitable and would be for a long time, “in markets where the streaming business is doing really well the DVD business is flattening out more.” Id.
The June 2, 2011 statements from Mr. Sarandos do hot support Plaintiffs’ allegations. Plaintiffs cited Mr. Sarandos’s quotations somewhat selectively to make it seem as if'he was actually saying that Netflix was prepared and willing to kill their DVD business to move on to the next one, i.e., streaming, thereby suggesting that the streaming component had completely supplanted the DVD component. See Opp’n at 2, 5, 12, 14. The Court finds that this is not the case. Mr. Sarandos was talking about the philosophy of Hollywood versus Silicon Valley, characterizing the former as a “relationship town” that focuses on preserving the status quo and the latter as a place philosophically more prepared to make drastic business shifts. See FAC- ¶ 185. Moreover, all of Defendants’ other statements make clear that, while they were planning to shift the business’s focus to streaming, DVD would remain part of Netflix’s business plan. See id. ¶ 180. Mr. Sarandos himself said, during the same conversation Plaintiffs cite, “The value proposition of the DVD business is going to be very good for a very long time.” Id. ¶ 185. The Court finds that these statements are not plausibly false or misleading. They are therefore insufficient to support Plaintiffs’ claims.
July 25, 2011 Statement: Plaintiffs refer to a shareholder letter filed on July 26, 2011, and an earnings call held on the same day. Id. ¶¶ 188-89. The letter indicated that Netflix’s streaming-only plan gained in popularity during Second Quarter 2011, that DVD shipments had “likely peaked” with the “rapid adoption of streaming,” and that Defendants had “spoken frequently” of how they were “directing savings generated from declining DVD demand into additional streaming content and marketing.” Id. ¶ 188.
Defendants Hastings and Wells said during the July 25 earnings call that they were gaining confidence over the last two years about “the viability and strength of a pure streaming plan,” especially since 75 percent of subscribers had chosen streaming-only plans even though DVD plans were only two dollars more expensive. Id. ■¶ 189. Defendant Hastings stated that with the pricing change, Netflix could strengthen its streaming plan with more content. Id Defendant Hastings added that investing in its DVD business would continue to be a smart choice, and that even if it did not grow it would at least shrink slowly instead of rapidly. ECF No. 112-1 (“Deck ISO Reply”) Ex. E (“July 25 Tr.”) at 3.' Defendant Hastings said that Netflix would “figure out” these growth prospects over “the next couple of quarters.” Id. The Court finds these statements insufficient to support Plaintiffs’ claim: they are, in context, optimistic [1195]*1195statements about streaming among candid statements of risk.
Plaintiffs also point to Defendant Hastings’ response to an analyst’s question about how separating the DVD and streaming components of its business would impact its content partnerships. FAC ¶¶ 190-91; July 25 Tr. at 3. Defendant Hastings stated that movie studios have had different DVD and streaming divisions “for a while,” leading Defendants not to see “any significant effect coming out of the separation of the plans.” July 25 Tr. at 3. And in response to separate question about whether DVD would become more or less of a priority after being decoupled from streaming, Defendant Hastings stated that the DVD business would be “less important to those people at Netflix working on streaming, and much more important to those people in the dedicated DVD division. And that’s the purpose of putting it in a separate group, so they can focus on that.” Id. The Court finds that none of these statements are false or misleading. The questions concerned content partnerships, not profitability or financial information.
Plaintiffs then point to Defendant Hastings’ statement that, by having DVD “as a division within Netflix, [Netflix had] a way to measure the P & L [profit and loss].” Id. ¶ 191. Plaintiffs state that this reflects Defendants’ capability of measuring the P & L for Netflix’s DVD component while it was part of the hybrid plan, leading Plaintiffs to conclude that Netflix “necessarily also had the capability of measuring the P & L for streaming.” Id. ¶ 190. (At this point, Netflix had separate streaming and DVD plans for new users, but existing users’ hybrid plans would not be phased out until September 2011.) These statements are implausible as bases for Plaintiffs’ allegations of securities fraud. In context, it is clear that Defendant Hastings was stating that Defendants would have P & L information for the DVD component in the future — he said nothing about the streaming component and, as noted above, did not have to, either as a matter of duty or in response to the analyst’s question about Netflix’s DVD-only business alone. See July 25 Tr. at 3.; see also supra Section IV.A.1. The Court does not find that Defendant Hastings’ statement, taken alone or alongside Plaintiffs’ other allegations, suggests that Defendants knew it was false or misleading, or that it rendered other statements actionable. The Court finds that these statements are not plausible bases for Defendants’ claims.
September 21, 2011 Statement: Plaintiffs add a quotation from a Goldman Sachs Communacopia Conference Call in which Netflix participated. Id. ¶ 204. In response to an analyst’s request for a “narrative” of Netflix’s focus and a query about why investors should own Netflix shares, Defendant Wells said this: “I think the core message I’ll deliver is that we feel strongly that the core thesis is intact. The size and the opportunity of the domestic and the international streaming market or electronic, entertainment market is intact. And we’re well positioned. We’re still well positioned to take advantage of that and to grow into a large share.” Id. Defendant Wells also stated that Netflix used mathematical models to predict streaming content’s value in negotiations. FAC ¶ 94. Finally, he added that Netflix would continue to analyze the now-separate DVD division’s revenue streams. Id. ¶ 95.
Defendant Wells’s September 21, 2011 statements do not provide plausible support for Plaintiffs’ claims. They are too vague and general to plausibly show that Defendants had knowledge of the disparities in DVD’s and streaming’s contribution margins. They also do not make false or misleading representations about such [1196]*1196margins. The Court also finds that these statements do not support Plaintiffs’ contention that Defendants were analyzing streaming’s profitability.
Expansion of December 8, 2010 Statement: Plaintiffs expand on December 8, 2010 statements referenced in the CCAC. These statements were made on a Bar-clays Capital Global Technology Conference Call. Id. ¶ 160. Plaintiffs quote sections of this call rather selectively. Compare id. with ECF No. 109 (“Liss Decl”) Ex. A (“Barclays Tr.”) at 5. Plaintiffs characterize the analyst’s question as being about “the impact -of streaming content costs on margins.” Id. But the actual question concerned studios and pay-TV networks with whom Netflix was negotiating for content. The analyst asked about those parties’ future plans; whether, in the long term, it was “the right thing” -for, them to license content to Netflix; and “whether [doing so] potentially hurts their seat at the table a few years down the line.” Id.
Plaintiffs quote Defendant Hastings as responding to that question by saying:
[T]here is no risk of a big-negative thing happening to Netflix. And, in general, investors ask us questions like, well, if the cost of content is X, won’t that tank your margins? And we are always surprised when we get that question because we are like no, we manage the margins ... the margins would be preserved ... [s]o it is not going to ever manifest itself as margin risk.
FAC ¶ 160.
However, having carefully read the transcript, the Court finds that Defendant Hastings is referring to the risk of having a majority of its streaming content tied to a single provider, which he calls a “concentration risk.” Barclays Tr. at 5. Defendant Hastings states that because Netflix had “added a lot of content,” even since the prior year’s statement that “no content provider was more than 20% of [Netflix’s] viewing.” Id. The “big negative thing” refers to the risk of a single content provider pulling content, and Defendants’ disclosure and explanation of such a risk is to be treated differently from statements about certainties. See Berson, 527 F.3d at 987.
Further, Defendant Hastings’ statement that “[Netflix’s] margins would be preserved” as it continued to invest in content is tucked between two ellipses in Plaintiffs’ FAC, but in context on the call’s full transcript, the Court finds that Defendant Hastings was referring to Netflix’s management of margins in terms of its not overspending in its content purchases. This is not a statement about specific streaming margins, nor is it actionable in general.
Similarly, the statement that purchasing content for streaming was “not going to ever manifest itself as margin risk” comes several sentences after Defendant Hastings hedges his statements on the benefits of content spending and the importance of management discipline. Before he refers to “margin risk,” he says that if content were ever more expensive than Netflix thought, they would not purchase it, a decision that could lead to Netflix’s having less total content, being less exciting to consumers, and resulting in less growth, but preserving Netflix’s margins. Id. The Court finds that this statement, like those above, is a statement about risk, not certainty — it is not actionable. Berson, 527 F.3d at 987.
Expansion of December 20, 2010 Statement: Plaintiffs add more quotations from an article by Defendant Hastings. In the article, Defendant Hastings responded to an investment advisor’s suggestion that investors should short Netflix because of [1197]*1197rising content costs and a more competitive streaming landscape. FAC ¶ 163. Defendant Hastings stated that Netflix’s subscriber base was growing fast enough, with DVD shipments slowing down enough, for Netflix both to pay for existing streaming content and to add more content to its library. Id. ¶ 164. He added that Netflix had “no intention of overspending relative to [its] margin structure, and there is no specific content that [Netflix] ‘must have’ at nearly any cost.” Id. He concluded by saying that Netflix spends 65-70 percent of revenue on Cost of Goods Sold (which is mostly content and postage) in its domestic business, and that “if content costs rose faster than we expected, then in practice we’d have less content than otherwise, rather than less margin. This would ultimately show up in less subscriber growth than we wanted from a not-as-good-as-it-would-otherwise-be service; it would not likely show up as a sudden hit to margins.” Id.
The Court finds that Plaintiffs’ expanded discussions of Defendants’ December 8 and 20, 2010, statements do not render Plaintiffs’ claims plausible. Plaintiffs attempt to argue both that these statements were “specific representations concerning Netflix’s streaming profit margins” and that the statements did not refer “explicitly to streaming’s profitability.” Opp’n at 15, 17 n.14. In context, the Court finds it clear that the statements refer to Netflix’s overall margins, just as the Court found in its previous Order. See Order at 15-16. The statements issued several months before Defendants could have evaluated different components’ profit margins, according to Plaintiffs’ measurements. See Ex. A at 5; see also FAC ¶¶ 157, 160-62, 164-65. Moreover, Defendant Hastings’ statements both make clear that Netflix planned to be cautious in its content investments, and that presenting less content to its subscribers could result in less subscriber growth. See FAC ¶¶ 160, 64. The Court finds that these statements are not plausible bases for Plaintiffs’ claims.
CW3: CW3 was a Manager of Content Planning and Analysis at Netflix from June 2011 to July 2012. Id. ¶ 224. Plaintiffs state that CW3 “confirms that Netflix had the capability to: (i) track the profitability of streaming; (ii) determine a profit margin for the purposes of determining separate streaming pricing; and (iii) calculate what the streaming profit margin needed to be.” Id. Plaintiffs allege that CW3 confirmed that Netflix’s decision to split streaming and DVD was made before June 2011, and that streaming was' a fixed-cost business with profit based almost entirely on the fixed cost of content. Id. ¶ 224. Plaintiffs also assert that according to CW3, Netflix was performing ROI analyses to determine different streaming packages’ profitability, and that these analyses helped them to determine that Starz’s requested dollar amount for its content exceeded that content’s profitability. Id. ¶ 226.
Plaintiffs claim that on a Septeihber 21, 2011 conference call, Defendants corroborated CW3’s allegations. Id. ¶227. On that call, Defendant Wells stated that in negotiations for groups of television or movie titles, Netflix would use hours viewed by its streaming subscribers as a proxy for value, and “to the extent that [Netflix uses] regression and other math valuation models” to predict a group of titles’ relative value, Netflix could estimate a reservation price for. its deals. Id. Plaintiffs also state that during the same call, Defendants revealed that they had segmented operating profits for its DVD division, pointing to another of Defendant Wells’ statements — devoid of context here and not explained elsewhere — about “the long-term earnings stream from a DVD division” and the notion that Netflix would [1198]*1198continue to “segment that out” while “looking at operating profit.” Id. ¶ 228.
The parties dispute the relevance of CW3’s statements to Plaintiffs theory that Defendants knew of actual profit .information about streaming. Plaintiffs say that they recently learned that CW3 had signed a declaration prepared by Netflix’s counsel, clarifying that “[t]erms like ‘profitability’ or ‘return on investment,’ to the extent used by [CW3] or in [CW3’s] group, referred to whether the cost of content would be justified by the anticipated consumption (viewing hours) of that content” and did not mean “financial profitability,” i.e., revenue minus costs. Opp’n at 1 n.2.
Plaintiffs apparently wanted to stipulate to' amend their FAC to add this clarifying statement, but the parties never agreed to do so. Id. The parties engage in some footnoted back-and-forth about the procedural aspects of this declaration at this point in litigation, see id.; Reply at 4 n.4. -However, the important point is that Plaintiffs. concede that CW3’s statements refer not to financial profitability (revenue minus costs) but to estimates of anticipated content- consumption. Opp’n at 1 n.l. Thus, CW3’s statements do not indicate that Defendants had actual knowledge of streaming’s relative profitability at any point before they actually declared it.
None of Plaintiffs’ CWs, even CW3, make Plaintiffs’ claims any more plausible than they were last time. As noted in Section II.B, supra, Plaintiffs clarify that CW3 actually uses the word “profitability” to mean “cost efficiency,” which is not the same as profitability. Opp’n at 1 n.2. Moreover, CW3’s statements do not show that Defendants hid the real state of their business affairs from their investors. Conelusory assertions that Defendants could have extrapolated complicated financial data from estimated values derived for purposes of negotiation do not render that claim any more plausible: forecasting and estimating are not the same as knowing the present value of an interrelated business component. Further, the fact that Defendants later began tracking information about DVDs still does not indicate that'they knew the same information about streaming until that product was separated from Defendants’ other plans.
CW1 and CW2, as discussed in the Court’s previous Order, also do not support Plaintiffs’ claims or render them plausible, because those CWs did not possess discrete profitability data and were not employed by Netflix at a relevant time. Order at 16. The Court therefore finds that Plaintiffs’ CWs’ statements do not plausibly support Plaintiffs’ claims.
In general, all of Plaintiffs’ allegations— new and old — depend on the tenuous theory that Defendants withheld discrete and accurate financial information about streaming while also touting streaming’s profitability. The Court has not found this to be the case for any statement Plaintiffs cite. Plaintiffs supply an array of vague, sometimes conclusory, statements to support a theory that requires much more by virtue of its being narrow and fact-sensitive. This is not enough to state a claim under the PSLRA.
1. Plaintiffs’ Re-pled Claims
Plaintiffs allege numerous facts that mirror what they pled about profitability in their CCAC. As for the statements the Court addressed in its prior Order, and to the application of Plaintiffs’ newly cited cases more generally, Plaintiffs have not shown that Defendants touted the independent profitability of streaming such that they would have a duty to disclose any of the negative aspects of their streaming business. Indeed, Defendants. explicitly refused to discuss the independent profitability of streaming. See Def.’s RJN Ex. 7 [1199]*1199(“Q3 Earnings Call”) (in which Defendant Hastings says, in response to a question about what Netflix’s U.S. streaming margins would be, that Defendants did not know what the margins were or would be in the future).
The Court finds that Plaintiffs’ claims based on Defendants’ statements and other facts that Plaintiffs also pled in their CCAC are implausible now for the same reasons they were when the Court dismissed Plaintiffs’ CCAC. See Order at 11-18 (considering the parts of Plaintiffs’ CCAC that remain essentially unchanged in the FAC). The Court will not rewrite its previous Order here, so the following paragraph briefly summarizes the factual problems with Plaintiffs’ restated pleadings.
Plaintiffs do not plead plausible facts indicating that Defendants touted the streaming business’s profitability as opposed to the projected or hoped-for strength of the interrelated DVD and streaming business. Moreover, Defendants made clear throughout the Class Period that the success of a streaming-focused business model was contingent on other factors, primarily the growth and retention of Netflix’s subscriber base, suggesting that Defendants did not omit any information or warnings in a way that would be misleading under Rule 10b-5. None of what Plaintiffs plead therefore shows that Defendants made any false or misleading statements about the profitability of the streaming business.
B. Plaintiffs’ Remaining Claims
Absent an underlying violation of the Exchange Act, there can be no control person liability under Section 20(a). Para-cor Fin., Inc. v. Gen. Elec. Capital Corp., 96 F.3d 1151, 1161 (9th Cir.1996). Because Plaintiffs have not pled a violation of Section 10(b), their control person claim is also DISMISSED. See Shurkin v. Golden State Vintners, Inc., 471 F.Supp.2d 998, 1027 (N.D.Cal.2006). Likewise, there can be no insider trading liability under Section 20A without an underlying violation of Section 10(b). See In re VeriFone Securities Litigation, 11 F.3d 865, 872 (9th Cir. 1993). Plaintiffs’ Section 20A claim is therefore DISMISSED.
C. Leave to Amend
The Court is aware that the heightened pleading standards of the PSLRA serve as a higher bar for plaintiffs in securities fraud class actions. Granting leave to amend — already liberally given in the Ninth Circuit — is often viewed favorably in many PSLRA cases. However, in this case, the Court dismisses Plaintiffs’ claims based on their failure to plead false or misleading statements. Falsity, unlike scienter, generally does not require the same depth of investigation. In this case, Plaintiffs have had two opportunities to plead false statements, but in both cases they have failed to do so. Therefore the Court declines to grant Plaintiffs leave to amend their FAC.
V. CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, the Court GRANTS Defendants Reed Hastings, David Wells, Barry McCarthy, and Netflix, Inc.’s Motion to Dismiss. Plaintiffs Arkansas Teacher Retirement System and State-Boston Retirement System’s First Amended Consolidated Class Action Complaint is DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE.
IT IS SO ORDERED.