In re: John Thymes and Shirley Thymes

CourtUnited States Bankruptcy Appellate Panel for the Ninth Circuit
DecidedNovember 9, 2016
DocketCC-16-1039-FMcTa
StatusUnpublished

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Opinion

FILED NOV 09 2016 1 NOT FOR PUBLICATION SUSAN M. SPRAUL, CLERK U.S. BKCY. APP. PANEL 2 OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT

3 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY APPELLATE PANEL 4 OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT 5 In re: ) BAP No. CC-16-1039-FMcTa ) 6 JOHN THYMES and ) Bk. No. 2:88-bk-10553-RN SHIRLEY THYMES, ) 7 ) Debtors. ) 8 _____________________________ ) ) 9 JOHN THYMES; SHIRLEY THYMES, ) ) 10 Appellants. ) MEMORANDUM* ______________________________) 11 Argued and Submitted on October 21, 2016 12 at Pasadena, California 13 Filed – November 9, 2016 14 Appeal from the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Central District of California 15 Honorable Richard M. Neiter, Bankruptcy Judge, Presiding 16 17 Appearances: Appellant Shirley Thymes argued pro se. 18 Before: FARIS, McKITTRICK,** and TAYLOR, Bankruptcy Judges. 19 20 21 22 23 24 * This disposition is not appropriate for publication. Although it may be cited for whatever persuasive value it may 25 have, see Fed. R. App. P. 32.1, it has no precedential value, see 26 9th Cir. BAP Rule 8024-1. ** 27 The Honorable Peter C. McKittrick, United States Bankruptcy Judge for the District of Oregon, sitting by 28 designation. 1 INTRODUCTION 2 In 1989, the bankruptcy court dismissed a chapter 71 case 3 filed by debtors John Anthony Thymes and Shirley Rose Thymes. 4 Twenty-six years later, Debtors sought relief from that order. 5 They attempted to explain their delay by claiming that they never 6 received notice of the order and had been waiting – for two and a 7 half decades – to hear from the bankruptcy court. They have 8 produced no record of what transpired in the bankruptcy court in 9 1988-89; they have not even provided a copy of the 1989 order 10 from which they seek relief. They have made no cogent legal 11 argument that the bankruptcy court erred in 1989. The bankruptcy 12 court did not err when it refused their 2015 request for relief 13 from the 1989 order. We AFFIRM. 14 FACTUAL BACKGROUND2 15 Debtors filed a chapter 7 petition on May 17, 1988 (the 16 “Chapter 7 Case”). The bankruptcy court dismissed the case on or 17 around July 18, 1989. The official record of that case has been 18 destroyed. 19 The Chapter 7 Case was only one of several bankruptcy cases 20 filed by Debtors in the 1980s and 1990s. On May 2, 1989, Debtors 21 1 22 Unless specified otherwise, all chapter and section references are to the Bankruptcy Code, 11 U.S.C. §§ 101-1532, all 23 “Rule” references are to the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure, Rules 1001-9037, and all “Civil Rule” references are 24 to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rules 1-86. 25 2 Debtors present us with a prohibitively limited record. 26 We have exercised our discretion to review the bankruptcy court’s docket, as appropriate, see Woods & Erickson, LLP v. Leonard 27 (In re AVI, Inc.), 389 B.R. 721, 725 n.2 (9th Cir. BAP 2008), although the docket contains almost no information about what 28 transpired in 1988-89.

2 1 filed a chapter 13 petition (the “Chapter 13 Case”). The 2 disposition of the Chapter 13 Case is equally unclear; for 3 example, we do not know whether Debtors’ plan was confirmed and 4 consummated or whether they received a discharge. However, 5 Debtors represented that they were paying $1,700 per month as a 6 part of their plan. 7 On April 3, 2015, twenty-six years after the court dismissed 8 their Chapter 7 Case, Debtors filed a motion to reopen the case 9 (“Motion to Reopen”). They concurrently filed a motion for 10 relief from dismissal under Rule 9024 (“Motion for Relief”). The 11 Motion for Relief argued that Debtors were entitled to a 12 discharge in the Chapter 7 Case and that the dismissal was 13 “unconstitutional and unjust.” 14 The court granted the Motion to Reopen and set a hearing on 15 the Motion for Relief on July 2, 2015. 16 Debtors did not appear at the July 2 hearing, and the court 17 denied the Motion for Relief. Instead, Debtors appeared in court 18 on July 9 and claimed that they did not receive notice of the 19 July 2 hearing. The court vacated its order denying the Motion 20 for Relief and reset the hearing for August 18. The court later 21 granted Debtors’ motion to continue the hearing to September 9. 22 Following the September 9 hearing, the bankruptcy court 23 denied the Motion for Relief. The court found that: (1) the 24 Chapter 7 Case was dismissed 26 years ago, and the original case 25 files had been destroyed and cannot be retrieved; (2) the time to 26 appeal the dismissal had long expired under Rule 8002; (3) the 27 motion was grossly untimely; (4) the Motion for Relief lacked the 28 relevant information to determine whether Debtors should be

3 1 relieved from the order dismissing the bankruptcy case and failed 2 to specify the reason for dismissal or even attach a copy of the 3 dismissal order; and (5) Debtors have not shown that they were 4 deprived of due process. 5 On October 19, 2015, Debtors filed a motion for 6 reconsideration (“Motion for Reconsideration”) that essentially 7 restated the same arguments from the Motion for Relief. Among 8 other things, they argued that creditors Metmor Financial, Inc. 9 and Cal-Western Reconveyance Corporation violated the automatic 10 stay and that they were not given notice of the 1989 dismissal.3 11 The court held a hearing on the Motion for Reconsideration. 12 Debtors’ oral presentation did little to clarify their arguments. 13 Debtors referenced a debt owed to creditor Metmor Financial but 14 failed to explain it. Further, Debtors also admitted that they 15 did not have any current debt they sought to discharge and that 16 the debt owed to Metmor Financial had been “settled.” Debtors 17 insisted that the Chapter 13 Case “is fine” and they’re “only 18 here for the Chapter 7, because the Chapter 13 we got a judgment 19 against all these - Metmor and all these agents that we named 20 already. . . . We got a judgment and everything on that. That’s 21 been settled.” 22 The court struggled to ascertain what relief Debtors were 23 seeking. After the court explained its tentative ruling to deny 24 the Motion for Reconsideration, Debtors compounded the confusion 25 26 3 Debtors also stated that the Motion for Reconsideration 27 was based on two of their other bankruptcy cases (98-bk-03657 and 89-bk-51827) but do not explain the relevance of those cases or 28 whether they were previously raised before the bankruptcy court.

4 1 by appearing to agree with the court that the Chapter 7 Case was 2 too old for re-adjudication: 3 THE COURT: Well, but the Chapter 7 is old and cold. It’s done. 4 MR. THYMES: Right. That’s what I’m saying. 5 THE COURT: We can’t reopen that. 6 MR. THYMES: Right. So I’m not getting off into 7 all the other cases that we got judgment on already. It’s just the Chapter 7 that we’re supposed to be here 8 before you, and I just read your tentative ruling and whatnot, and I don’t see where any harm or damage could 9 be done here because everything has been settled through all the other means. 10 11 Ultimately, the conclusion of the hearing failed to add any 12 clarity to the proceedings: 13 THE COURT: Do you deny that you got a discharge in Chapter 7? 14 MR. THYMES: No, I’m not denying to get a discharge 15 for Chapter 7. 16 MS. THYMES: What is he asking? What is he asking? 17 MR. THYMES: But I’m saying at the same time we had two bankruptcies pending. 18 THE COURT: Okay. 19 MR. THYMES: Yeah. 20 THE COURT: So what? 21 MR. THYMES: So what I’m saying is everything was 22 taken care of through Chapter 13. 23 THE COURT: Okay.

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