WASHINGTON, Circuit Judge.
This case presents the question whether the Securities & Exchange Commission has power to prohibit a stockholders’ protective committee from soliciting financial contributions from the stockholders whom it represents in a reorganization proceeding under the Public Utility Holding Company Act of 1935, 15 U.S.C.A. § 79 et seq., where such contributions were to be used for the purpose of hearing the expenses of the committee and paying fees to its legal and other representatives.
The Long Island Lighting Company is a utility holding company, incorporated under the laws of New York. In 1936 the Securities & Exchange Commission granted the company an exemption from the provisions of the Public Utility Holding Company Act, pursuant to section 3(a) (1) of that Act. On April 21, 1945, after appropriate, proceedings, Long Island’s exemption was revoked by the Securities & Exchange 'Commission, and Long Island thereupon registered as a holding company. In November 1945 proceedings under section 11(b) (2) and 11(e) of the Act were commenced and consolidated. Hearings were held from time to time in these proceedings. Early in 1948, petitioners J. Donald Plalsted, E. M. Nichols and B. F. Grizzle formed a protective committee for common stockholders of Long Island. From that point on the committee was represented before the Commission, and from time to time offered objections to various actions taken or. proposed by the Commission in the 11(e) and 11(b) (2) proceedings. On November 2, 1949, the Securities & Exchange Commission concluded that a plan submitted under 11(e), if modified in certain aspects, would he fair and equitable, and upon that modification the plan was approved on November 17, 1949. The common stockholders’ committee offered certain objections to this plan, none of which are here relevant. The plan has lately (February 10, 1950) been approved by the District Court for the Eastern District of New York as being proper, fair and equitable.
The protective committee, petitioners here, filed a declaration of solicitation with [662] the Securities & Exchange Commission on April 21, 1948, requesting permission to circularize the common stockholders and secure authorization to represent them in certain aspects of the reorganization. This was approved by the Securities & Exchange Commission on June 10, 1948. On October 28, 1948, the committee requested the Commission to approve the circularization of the stockholders for a voluntary contribution of 5 cents a share. After a hearing on the proposed solicitation, the Securities & Exchange Commission, on March 31, 1949, issued an order denying the permission requested, and the protective committee brings this appeal.
The committee contends, in its petition to this court: First, that the Securities & Exchange Commission has no jurisdiction to regulate or prohibit the circularization of stockholders for the purpose of acquiring •funds to finance the committee; second, that the action taken by the Commission violates the committee’s right of free speech under the First Amendment; and, third, that in any event the Commission’s action was arbitrary and capricious. A further contention was made for petitioners, in their brief and oral argument, that the Long Island Lighting Company neither operates in, affects, nor burdens interstate commerce, and that hence the Securities & Exchange Commission'has no jurisdiction over the company and consequently no power to regulate the activities of the committee.
The first question is thus whether the Securities & Exchange Commission had authority under the Public Utility Holding Company Act of 1935 to deny the committee the permission which it requested to circularize the stockholders of the company. The principal statutory provision which must be examined is section 12(e) of the Holding Company Act, reading as follows: “It shall be unlawful for any person to solicit or to permit the use of his or its name to solicit, by use of the mails or any means or instrumentality of interstate commerce, or otherwise, any proxy, power of attorney, consent, or authorization regarding any security of a registered holding company or a subsidiary company thereof in contravention of such rules and regulations or orders as the Commission deems necessary or appropriate in the public interest or for the protection of investors or consumers or to prevent the circumvention of the provisions of this chapter or the rules, regulations, or orders thereunder.” 15 U.S.'C.A. § 791(e).
The provision just quoted is an important part of a comprehensive congressional plan for the regulation of public utility holding companies. Prior events had shown the necessity for supervision of these companies, and in particular the need for reorganization of their capital structure. See American Power & Light Co. v. Securities & Exchange Commission, 329 U.S. 90, 96-104, 67 S.Ct. 133, 91 L.Ed. 103; In Re Standard Power & Light Corp., D.C., 48 F.Supp. 716, 719-720. Under the Holding Company Act an expert administrative body, the Securities & Exchange Commission, was given broad regulatory powers, over registered companies, to compel reorganization when necessary, and then to-, control the reorganization process. And solicitation of authorizations, especially of the right to act for security holders, was among the practices which for the protection of investors Congress considered it necessary to control, both during the ordinary operations of a registered company and during the reorganization process. The-Securities & Exchange Commission had' previously, in the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, 15 U.S.C.A. § 78a et seq., been given power to supervise communications addressed to holders of securities registered under that Act, where proxies and similar-authorizations were being solicited. Section 14(a) 1934 Act, 15 U.S.C.A. § 78n(a).. In the Public Holding Company Act of" 1935, passed a year later, the Congress gave-the Commission broader powers over proxy solicitations than it had given in the 1934-Act. Section 12(e), 1935 Act, 15 U.S.C.A., § 791(e). In this, as in other instances,. Congress showed that it deemed the public-utility holding company field to be one-requiring a stricter measure of regulation, and control than was the case with corporations generally. Both the 1934 and 1935-Acts applied to solicitations of “any proxy, power of attorney, consent, or authorization.” But the 1935 Act in section 12(e)» [663] not only permits the Commission to make rules and regulations for the control of such solicitations, but also to regulate by order solicitations not falling within the ambit of any particular rule. Further, in section 12(e) the Commission was specifically empowered to prevent circumvention of the provisions of the Act and of the Commission’s implementation of those provisions. The 1935 Act thus authorized not only prohibition by the Commission of solicitations obviously contrary to the Act, but also regulation of those fashioned in a more ambiguous design, aimed at avoiding the Act by circuitous means. The employment of legal expertise in sleight-of-hand was not unknown in the utility holding company field. The Congress recognized that it was necessary to give the Commission broad powers in order that the adroit manipulation which had resulted in the abuses of the holding company system could be prevented. Securities & Exchange Commission v. Chenery Corp., 332 U.S. 194, 201-03, 67 S.Ct. 1575, 1760, 91 L.Ed. 1995; Detroit Edison Co. v. Securities & Exchange Commission, 6 Cir., 1942, 119 F.2d 730, 738-739, certiorari denied 314 U.S. 618, 62 S.Ct. 105, 86 L.Ed. 497.
Prior to the passage of the 1935 Act, protective committees frequently required their constituent security holders to sign agreements, under which their securities were physically deposited with the committee. These agreements commonly gave authority to the committee not only to act for the security holders, but also to obtain for the committee, through hypothecation and otherwise, such measure of reimbursement and compensation as the committee might see fit to require. Assessments were also utilized from time to time by protective committees to raise from their constituents funds for the conduct of the committee’s business and, in some instances at least, for payment of compensation. It has been pointed out that under deposit agreements assessments were on occasion used as a device for retention of control, and that under such agreements “Assessments have been levied apparently more with reference to their deterrent effect upon withdrawal than with reference to the actual expenses which the committee has incurred. * * * Committees have levied assessments which have amounted to a substantial percentage of the market price of the securities, and, in fact, as much as the entire amount of the market price, thus making withdrawal impractical if not completely useless.” 1 ******And one of the notorious abuses of the past consisted in excessive fees obtained by committees when left to T5eir~bwn discretion, as well as costs incommensurate with services rendered either to the security holders or the corporation being reorganized.2
In contrast, the Commission’s regulations now provide, in substance, that any person represented by a protective committee may sever his connection with the committee at anvjime prior to the close ofJhe pror.eeding, without expense to him. Rule U-62(h). Further, the Holding Company Act, in section 11(f), expressly gives the Commission control over all fees and expenses in connection with reorganization proceedings under the Act, in the following broad language: “The Commission may, by such rules and regulations or order as it may deem necessary or appropriate in the public interest or for the protection of investors or consumers, require that any or all fees, expenses, and remuneration, to whomsoever paid, in connection with any reorganization, dissolution, liquidation, bankruptcy, or receivership of a registered holding company or subsidiary company thereof, in any such proceeding, shall be subject to approval by the Commission.” 15 U.S.'C.A. § 79k(f).
[664] In the light of these provisions and their history, we think the Commission was correct in finding that the proposed action in circularizing stockholders amounted to soliciting an “authorization” within the meaning of section 12(e), and that it would or could produce “circumvention of the provisions -of this chapter or the rules, regulations, or orders thereunder” within the meaning of the same section. To- construe the provisions of section 12(e) as covering only the solicitation of “any proxy, power of attorney, consent, or authorization” in haec verba would defeat the patent congressional intent to give the Securities & Exchange Commission a needed measure of control over the relationships between stockholders and persons who seek tó represent them in reorganization proceedings, Securities & Exchange Commission v. Okin, 2 Cir., 1943, 132 F.2d 784. It cannot be questioned that a contribution of funds could well make any prior right of representation more potent and effective. But more important, from the standpoint of investor protection, is the fact that it binds tire shareholder to the committee to which he has contributed, and'undermines the controls which Congress intended the Commission to exercise over committee compensation.
_ o. . . . . The Commission, m an opinion accom- , ’ . .. panymg the order here m question, dis- ,, . r ,1 , , , cussed the impact of the statute on the ac- ... r f t,. -j • tivities of protective committees. It said, m , ' part:
UT • • 1 i.In examining proposals respecting ac- .. ... r . .. __... • tmties of protective committees m connection with proceedings before us, we are mindful, on the one hand, that there is an r < r • , 1 . , • area for beneficial class representation by , . ....... , cuch committees which should be preserved and, on the other, that committee activities have been the subject of abuses in the past and must be regulated in the interests of protecting the security holders represented and ^preventing undue burdening of the reorganization process.
“We have provided procedures for the effective participation of committees in pro-ceedings before us on behalf of the security holders they represent. The committees are aided through the enforcement,, under proper circumstances, of the management’s obligation to provide them with stockholders lists, the granting of permission to participate actively in the proceedings before us and to explore pertinent matters and present their views, and the granting of allow-anees for fees and expenses to committees who have contributed to the reorganization through their assistance in the exploration and resolution of the issues.
“This recognition of committees has afforded an incentive to beneficial committee participation which, in our opinion, has not been reduced by requiring that compensation await the determination of the extent of the contribution to the reorganization, Our usual procedure is to- pass upon requests for allowances at a time when the services of all the representatives of security holders have been substantially completed and can be evaluated in the light of the re-suits they have achieved. This procedure is adapted to the nature of the reorganization process and is justified in the light of the assurance of adequate compensation for constructive services that our jurisdiction to award compensation out of the reorganiza- .. ° . tion estate affords. Moreover, we believe ... , , . it is a salutary requirement tending to limit , ,, . ... security holder representatives to activities . . which are constructive m nature,
To"these observations of the 'Com-,L ) , , . mission, we may add that m our view the ’ J Commission’s order m this case does- not imPose an undue restriction on the committee s power to represent its constituents „ . f ^ , . 1 . effectively. Certainly it has received no ,.£C , , . , £ _ ,1 . different treatment from other similar committees functioning in proceedings before £he Securities & Exchange Commission.3 ]qor }s there any indication that its activities have in fact been limited by reason of the Commission’s order. In a proceeding in the Eastern District of New York con[665] cerning the reorganization of Long Island, Judge Kennedy recently referred to a contention along this line made before him by the protective committee here involved, and said :4 “On that point I can only say that the protective committee was represented before me by competent counsel who presented in great detail and with entire clarity their opposition to the plan. Their reply brief, which was printed, presents their contentions in racy and incisive style. But more than that, the brief and indeed counsel’s whole presentation show that they are armed with full details concerning the history and structure of the company. It is difficult for me to conceive how preparation could be more complete or presentation more vigorous even if each common stockholder had paid five cents per share. I find nothing in the record showing that the representation of the common stock before the federal commission was stifled, or was in any way weakened by the commission’s action. Its counsel were as vigorous and competent as they were before me.”
What is really in issue in this case is not representation; it is fees. True it is that the extent and quality of representation may be intimately related to the size of the representative’s fee. But we cannot conclude from this that every group in a reorganization must he allowed unlimited fees. Protection of investors requires a different standard, and Congress has so decreed. The express provisions of section 11(f), quoted above, give the Commission direct control over the fees to be allowed in enumerated proceedings under the Act. We cannot ignore this provision, or invite its evasion. Under a closely comparable provision of the Chandler Act,5 the Supreme (Court has recently declared that investors are entitled to full protection, even as against their own contractual arrangements. Leiman v. Guttman, 336 U.S. 1, 69 S.Ct. 371, 93 L.Ed. 453. There a protective committee had sought to enforce in a state court an agreement made between it and four stockholders, providing that certain stock should be held in escrow and paid as a fee. The Supreme 'Court held that the bankruptcy court had exclusive jurisdiction under the Chandler Act to fix committee compensation, whatever its source. Mr. Justice Douglas, speaking for the Court, said: “A statute establishing such broad supervision over committees cannot be presumed to be niggardly in its grant of authority when it deals with the matter which of all the others has the most direct impact on those whom it aims to protect. * * * The statute was designed to police the return which all security holders obtain from reorganization plans. The net return cannot be kept under supervision if private arrangements expressed in escrow agreements are to control. For the impact of excessive fee claims is the same whether they are charged directly against the estate or against the claim which represents a proportionate interest in the estate.” 336 U.S. at page 8, 69 S.Ct. at page 374, 93 L.Ed. 453.
The last sentence quoted reflects the important fact that the payment of fees to fiduciaries, whether or not from the trust estate, fixes the amount receivable by the ultimate party in interest — the beneficiary. Justice Douglas points out that in the past fiduciaries usually fixed their own fees in reorganization proceedings, and that as a result “the effective amount received by creditors and stockholders under the plan was determined not by the court but by reorganization managers and committees.” 336 U.S. at page 7, 69 S.Ct. at page 374, 93 L.Ed. 453. That is the heart of the matter. The Commission’s power of ultimate [666] control over fees under section 11(f) would be of little worth or significance if a court were to compel the Commission at the present stage of the case to permit the type of activity here contemplated. The Holding Company Act, like the Chandler Act, cannot be presumed to be “niggardly in its grant of authority”, when coping with the problem here presented.6 Under the plain words of section 11(f), that provision applies to “all fees, expenses, and remuneration, to whomsoever paid, in connection with” a court reorganization proceeding.
The -reorganization of Long Island has been subject to a court proceeding, as is the case with almost all holding company reorganizations. Beyond question the coverage of section 11(f) includes fees payable in the court proceeding from company funds, and it is from those funds (and solely from those funds) that the committee here involved has announced it will ultimately seek its compensation. The contributions it presently desires to solicit were to be merely a temporary measure of relief, until determination is made under section 11(f) ; a refund would then be made of the contributions received from stockholders.7 The practical difficulties created by this proposal to anticipate the Commission’s final determination can be readily imagined; sellers in the open market and persons desiring to withdraw from representation by the committee would be in a continued state of doubt as to the extent of the “right” of refund, whether it possessed any immediate value, and to whom it -belonged. And the Commission’s opinion has the following to say: “The present proposal suggests a deviation from the usual procedure as to fees which we cannot approve. Proposals to solicit contributions involve either the possibility that the soliciting committee and its counsel might retain sums received from the fund in excess of amounts subsequently allowed by us in the reorganization (thus carrying with it possible circumvention of our supervisory jurisdiction over fees and expenses and of the ‘fair and equitable' standard of Section 11(e)) or the possibility of substantial complexities and difficulties in effectuating and enforcing fair and equitable provisions for return of contributed sums.”
[667] The jurisdiction of the Securities & Exchange Commission over fees under section 11(f) is vital to the proper conduct of proceedings such as the present. In re Electric Bond & Share Co.8 The Commission could properly find that jurisdiction to be threatened with defeat by the proposed solicitation. It is a power which deserves protection from evasion and circumvention to as great a degree as the authority of the District Court under the Chandler Act. And we may note that the Leiman case dealt with a contract made with a committee by a few “individual stockholders, presumably mentally competent adults,”9 yet that contract was held to be subject to the beneficial controls established by the Chandler Act. Here we have no such bargained contract, but an attempt (in effect) to solicit a like reward by mass circularization of scattered investors. We believe that under section 12(e) the Commission had power to deny the permission requested and that its action should not be disturbed.10
That the Commission might have chosen some mechanism to protect the stockholders, other than the method selected, is irrelevant. In American Power & Light Co. v. Securities & Exchange Commission, 1946, 329 U.S. 90, 67 S.Ct. 133, 91 L.Ed. 103, Mr. Justice Murphy, speaking for the Court, said: “It is a fundamental principle, however, that where 'Congress has entrusted an administrative agency with the responsibility of selecting the means of achieving the statutory policy ‘the relation of remedy to policy is peculiarly a matter for administrative competence.’ * * * In dealing with the complex problem of adjusting holding company systems in accordance with the legislative standards, the Commission here has accumulated experience and knowledge which no court can hope to attain. Its judgment is entitled to the greatest weight, while recognizing that the Commission’s discretion must square with its responsibility. Only if the remedy chosen is unwarranted [668] in law or is without justification in fact should a court attempt to intervene in the matter. Neither ground of intervention is present in this instance.” 329 U.S. at page 112, 67 S.Ct. at page 146, 91 L.Ed. 103.
It is thus useless to argue that the Commission might perhaps have devised some plan for permitting the solicitation which would, at the same time, insure a fair degree of compliance with the rules developed by the Commission under the Holding Company Act. The Commission cannot be compelled to pick and choose among devices so long as its action is neither arbitrary nor capricious. There was no arbitrary or capricious action in this case. Far stronger action has been taken on occasion by the Federal courts, in respect of protective committees, in reorganization proceedings under sections 77A and 77B of the Bankruptcy Act, 11 U.S.C.A. §§ 206, 207. In re Schroeder Hotel Co., 7 Cir., 86 F.2d 491 (committee enjoined from communicating with bondholders) ; In re Madison Hotel Corp., 2 Cir., 89 F.2d 1014 (affirming similar injunction; see 46 Yale L.J. 1391, 1392). And we may note that the committee in this case remains free to make financial arrangements with a limited number (not exceeding 25) of its principal constituents, at arm’s length. Rule U-62(b). What is denied is the privilege of mass solicitation of the stockholders — a privilege holding obvious danger to the uninformed investor.
There is substantial basis for the Commission’s conclusion that protection of investors would be thwarted if solicitations such as those involved in the instant case were permitted. That being so, the ultimate wisdom of the policy adopted by the Securities & Exchange Commission is not for the consideration of this court. The policy may in fact prove to be unwise. Wise or unwise, it was within the Commission’s powers. Correction, if correction is needed, should in such case come from Congress or from the Commission itself.11
Petitioners also contend that the Commission’s order violates their right of free speech under the First Amendment. We think that contention without merit. The First Amendment was designed to aid and support the existence of a democratic society by preserving, free from interference, an unlimited market place for the interchange of ideas. See the dissent of Mr. Justice Holmes in Abrams v. United States, 250 U.S. 616, 624, 630, 40 S.Ct. 17, 63 L.Ed. 1173; Thomas v. Collins, 323 U.S. 516, 65 S.Ct. 315, 89 L.Ed. 430. But dissemination of ideas is not involved in the instant case. The Securities & Exchange Commission has not endeavored to control the text of the recommendations of the protective committee to- the stockholders, or to prevent them from discussing the merits of the proposed reorganization. The effort is rather to prevent the committee from collecting its fees in a particular manner. As such, the Commission’s action is similar to the controls customarily exercised by courts over fiduciaries, and is no more repugnant to the First Amendment than any similar court order in regard to the fees of a fiduciary. In re Schroeder Hotel Co., 7 Cir., 86 F.2d 491, 494; Note, 46 Yale L.J. 1391; 50 Harv.L.Rev. 831; Dealtry v. Posse School, Inc., 1 Cir., 100 F.2d 470; In re George F. Nord Building Corp., 7 Cir.,, 129 F.2d 173, certiorari denied 317 U.S. 670, 63 S.Ct. 75, 87 L.Ed. 538. Were the committee engaged in forwarding a religious, political, or social cause by soliciting funds from proselytes or from the public generally, its case for freedom from supervision- and restraint would indeed be strong. Cf. Murdock v. Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105, 63 S.Ct. 870, 87 L.Ed. 1292, 146 A.L.R. 81; Martin v. City of Struthers, 319 U.S. 141, 63 S.Ct. 862, 87 L.Ed. 1313; Cantwell v. State of Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296, 60 S.Ct. 900, 84 L.Ed. 1213, 128 A.L.R. 1352; Thomas v. Collins, supra; Hague v. C. L. O., 307 U.S. 496, 59 [669] S.Ct. 954, 83 L.Ed. 1423. But petitioners here are engaged in the market place of affairs rather than ideas;12 they are, like others similarly situated, subject to valid “regulatory legislation affecting ordinary commercial transactions.” 13
We now consider another issue, not raised in the petition, but presented to' us by the committee in its brief and oral argument. Petitioners contend that the Securities & Exchange Commission has no jurisdiction over their proposed circularization of the stockholders for the 5 cent contribution because the Securities & Exchange Commission has no- jurisdiction over the Long Island Lighting Company. It is alleged that the Long Island Lighting Company is not engaged in interstate commerce and does not affect or burden interstate commerce.
Section 24(a) of the Holding Company Act, under which the petition to this court for review is brought, expressly provides: “No objection to the order of the Commission shall be considered by the court unless such objection shall have been urged before the Commission or unless there were reasonable grounds for failure so to do.” 15 U.S.C.A. § 79x(a).
The Commission’s order of March 31, 1949, was preceded by (a) a request by the petitioners for permission to circularize the common stockholders, (b) a hearing on this request before an examiner, the transcript of which occupies some thirty pages of record, and (c) the filing of exhibits on behalf of the petitioners. Nowhere among these documents do we find any issue being raised by the petitioners on the question of the general jurisdiction of the Commission, nor does the Commission’s order of March 31, 1949, discuss the question. The petition to this court to review the order of the Securities & Exchange Commission contains no suggestion of a contest on the jurisdictional point, and nowhere alleges lack of jurisdiction over the Long Island Lighting Company as such. It is true that on oral argument petitioners claimed, and counsel for the Commission conceded, that petitioners on numerous occasions suggested doubts to the Commission regarding its jurisdiction over the company, and expressed their own belief in the Commission’s lack of jurisdiction. But, in view of the full hearing on the proposed circularization and the many opportunities for the committee to question the jurisdiction directly, the maintenance of that general attitude before the Commission cannot avail petitioners here. “The desirability of the provision [§ 24(a)] being so apparent, an appellate court should be assiduous in avoiding review of matters which have not received consideration by the Commission.” Phillips v. Securities & Exchange Commission, 2 Cir., 1946, 156 F.2d 606, 608. The question of the Securities & Exchange Commission’s jurisdiction over the Long Island Lighting Company, therefore, is not properly before this court and we cannot consider it. American Power & Light Co. v. Securities & Exchange Commission, 1 Cir., 1944, 141 F.2d 606, affirmed, 329 U.S. 90, 67 S.Ct. 133, 91 L.Ed. 103; Todd v. Securities & Exchange Commission, 6 Cir., 1943, 137 F.2d 475; Pacific Gas & Electric Co. v. Securities and Exchange Commission, 9 Cir., 1942, 127 F.2d 378; cf. Marshall Field & Co. v. National Labor Relations Board, 1943, 318 U.S. 253, 63 [670] S.Ct. 585, 87 L.Ed. 744; Saunders Petroleum Co. v. Bowles, Em.App.1945, 152 F.2d 112, 119-120.
We may note that in a recent proceeding before the forum most intimately connected with the reorganization of Long Island, the District Court for the Eastern District of New York, this same stockholders’ protective committee contested the Securities & Exchange Commission’s jurisdiction over Long Island. The District Court was there considering, pursuant to section 11(e), the propriety of a reoganization plan approved by the Commission, and the question of jurisdiction apparently was timely raised. In its decision, rendered after argument of the instant case before this court had taken place, the District Court held that the Securities & Exchange Commission had jurisdiction over Long Island and that the proposed plan was fair and equitable. Judge Kennedy said, in part: “But in a proceeding related to this one, in the sense that it concerned itself with a subsidiary of Long Island Lighting Company, a jurisdictional objection precisely similar to that here under consideration was urged before me by counsel for the Public Service Commission of the State of New York, In re Kings County Lighting Co., D.C.E.D.N.Y. 1947, 72 F.Supp. 767. The state commission in that case urged that Kings County Lighting Company was not selling heat, light and power in interstate commerce, and that even though the securities of Long Island were being distributed throughout the states, that would not constitutionally support the application to it of an act assuming to override the state’s primary interest in corporations generally, and public utility corporations particularly, operating wholly within the state — substantially the argument which the protective committee is urging in the District of Columbia, and urges here. I mistakenly thought the question important, and gave it rather full consideration. But on appeal, Public Service Commission of New York v. Securities and Exchange Commission, 2 Cir., 1948, 166 F.2d 784, 788, certiorari denied 1948, 334 U.S. 838, 68 S.Ct. 1495 92 L.Ed. 1763, Judge Learned Hand said ‘the constitutional question is too trivial to justify discussion’. I realize, of course, that on the surface an attack on the constitutionality of the Act might be entirely different from a mere challenge to the jurisdiction because the Act is said not to be applicable. But here, as in the Kings County Lighting case, they come to the same thing. The argument is that if the Public Utility Holding Company Act is applicable to public utility companies operating wholly intrastate then the basis for federal jurisdiction (interstate commerce) is non-existent and therefore to apply the Act would be [to] violate the constitutional reservation to the states of powers not granted. The answer here, as in the Kings County Lighting case, is that interstate distribution of securities is a sufficient constitutional basis for federal legislation, even passing the point that the companies promulgating the plan here under discussion have voluntarily submitted themselves to the jurisdiction of the federal commission, and the question whether a stockholder is entitled to complain.”
We see no reason to disagree with the conclusion reached by Judge Kennedy. Certainly the record before us shows nothing to warrant disagreement. And even if we should take judicial notice of the prior orders entered by the Securities & Exchange Commission, as the committee at oral argument invited us to do, we would find it difficult indeed to conclude from an inspection of those orders that a system of such tremendous size,14 serving so many [671] consumers, with securities so widely held, does not affect interstate commerce and thus is without the scope of the Commission’s jurisdiction.15
Upon examination of the record we find no error. The order of the Securities & Exchange Commission accordingly is
Affirmed.
“Under the Holding Company Act, the Securities and Exchange Commission has jurisdiction to pass upon the reasonableness of fees and expenses to he paid by the reorganized company to committee members, their counsel and other experts. At the appropriate time, we shall apply to the Commission to have the compensation and expenses of the Committee, its counsel and experts allowed by the Commission, and paid by Long Island.
“Upon payment By Long Island, the Committee, its counsel, or experts, of their fees and expenses allowed by the Securities and Exchange Commission, each of them, respectively, will use these funds to repay the defense fund for the amounts it shall have paid to the Committee, its counsel and experts, respectively. After the defense fund has received these repayments it will repay, pro rata, the stockholders who contributed to it.” (Jt.App. 44)
The Commission, in its opinion in the case, added: “Although the post-effective amendment and its accompanying material did not contain any provision covering the eventuality that the amounts paid out of the fund for fees and expenses might exceed those allowed by us, counsel for the Committee stated in their brief and at argument that the Committee and its counsel and experts would be willing to stipulate that if they received any such overpayments from the fund they would repay to it the amount of such overpayments in addition to any amounts received by them from Long Island pursuant to a grant of allowance by us.” (Jt.App. 100-101)
See, also, the opinion of the Commission in the instant case, quoted supra, where the Commission points out that the usual procedure is to apply for compensation when the services have been completed, compensation which the Commission may award out of the reorganization estate. In re Electric Bond & Share Co., supra, is an instance of such .procedure being sustained by the courts. See, also, In re United Gas Corporation, D.C., 58 F.Supp. 501, 519, affirmed 3 Cir., 162 F.2d 409; 6 Collier, Bankruptcy, pp. 4491-94, 4505-13, 4532-42, and especially 4547-52 (14th ed. 1949).