1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 9 10 Al Otro Lado, Inc., et al., Case No.: 17-cv-02366-BAS-KSC 11 Plaintiffs, 12 ORDER GRANTING UNOPPOSED v. JOINT MOTION FOR ENTRY OF 13 STIPULATED REMOTE Chad F. Wolf,1 et al., DEPOSITION PROTOCOL 14 [DOC. NO. 450] Defendants. 15 16 17 18 Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 1 and 29, and in response to the Court’s comments 19 during the March 27, 2020 telephonic joint status conference, the parties have met, 20 conferred, and agreed upon the following deposition protocol for the remaining 21 depositionsin this case(subject to schedule modifications, if necessary,agreed upon 22 by counsel for both parties). The parties submit that, given the ongoing COVID-19 23 pandemic, good cause exists for entry of the stipulated deposition protocol outlined 24 in this unopposed motion and proposed order. See, e.g., Dkt. 439; Sinceno v. 25 Riverside Church in the City of N.Y., 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 47859, at *1 (S.D.N.Y. 26 27 1 Acting Secretary Wolf is automatically substituted for former Acting Secretary McAleenan pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 25(d). 28 1 Mar. 18, 2020) (approving all depositions being taken by “telephone, 2 videoconference, or other remote means” in view of the COVID-19 pandemic); see 3 also Pearlstein v. Blackberry Ltd., 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 47032, at *2-3 (S.D.N.Y. 4 Mar. 16, 2020) (same); Thomas v. Wallace, Rush, Schmidt, Inc., 2020 U.S. Dist. 5 LEXIS 46925, at *6 (M.D. La. Mar. 18, 2020) (same). Cf. Automatic Equip. Mfg. 6 Co. v. Danko Mfg., 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 47350, at *6 (D. Neb. Mar. 12, 2020) 7 (permitting parties to hold Markman hearing by videoconference); ResCap 8 Liquidating Tr. v. Primary Residential Mortg., 2020 U.S. U.S. Dist. LEXIS 44607, 9 at *3 (D. Minn. Mar. 13, 2020) (COVID-19 “establish[ed] good cause for remote 10 testimony.”); De Lench v. Archie, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 58049, at *6 (D. Mass. 11 Apr. 2, 2020) (“In light of the current coronavirus pandemic, the Court encourages 12 the parties to avail themselves of video technology for meetings, depositions, and 13 other communication and interactions arising in the discovery process.”). Based on 14 the foregoing, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED: 15 I. DEFINITIONS 16 A. “Attending counsel” shall mean any legal counsel for a party that is 17 attending the deposition of a non-party. 18 B. “Court reporter” shall mean an individual retained by the deposing 19 party to transcribe the oral testimony offered at a deposition in the litigation and who 20 is authorized to administer oaths either by federal law or by the law of the place of 21 examination. 22 C. “Deposition” shall mean any deposition upon oral examination taken 23 pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 27, Fed. R. Civ. P. 30, Fed. R. Civ. P. 45, or any court 24 order. 25 D. “Deposing counsel” shall mean the legal counsel of the party or parties 26 noticing and taking a deposition in the litigation. 27 28 1 E. “Defending counsel” shall mean the legal counsel (including counsel 2 of record and agency/in-house counsel for any party or third-party) of the party, 3 parties, non-party, or non-parties defending a deposition in the litigation. 4 F. “Document” carries its broadest meaning consistent with Fed. R. Civ. 5 P. 34 and includes both ESI and Hard Copy Document. 6 G. “Electronically Stored Information” or “ESI” carries its broadest 7 possible meaning consistent with Fed. R. Civ. P. 34(a) and Fed. R. Evid. 1001. 8 H. “Exhibit” shall mean any Document or Electronically Stored 9 Information that is marked as an exhibit during a Deposition. 10 I. “Hard Copy Document” means any document or thing discoverable 11 under Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(l) and Fed. R. Civ. P. 34 that cannot be characterized as 12 ESI. 13 J. “Litigation” shall mean the case captioned above. 14 K. “Parties” shall mean Plaintiffs, Defendants, and their current and 15 former employees, executives, officers, and directors. 16 L. “Non-parties” shall mean all natural or legal persons that are not Parties 17 from whom a Party is seeking testimony at a deposition in the litigation. 18 II. GENERAL PRINCIPLES AND DURATION OF THIS ORDER 19 A. This Order is intended to allow the parties to continue deposition 20 discovery in light of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, with the goal of completing 21 discovery by the current June 19, 2020 fact discovery deadline. 22 B. The Court and counsel recognize that the COVID-19 pandemic requires 23 the parties to be flexible in completing deposition discovery in this litigation. The 24 parties are encouraged to take steps that will enable deponents, deposing counsel, 25 defending counsel, and attending counsel to complete depositions in a manner that 26 also takes into account the needs of dependent care and personal health care. In light 27 of the developing public health situation, the parties and non-parties shall meet, 28 confer, and cooperate with one another regarding the scheduling of depositions and 1 the procedures for taking depositions. In doing so, the parties and non-parties shall 2 make all reasonable efforts to accommodate reasonable requests for continuances of 3 depositions due to illnesses or dependent care needs of attorneys, deponents, or the 4 court reporter. Such continuances may include taking previously-scheduled 5 depositions after the fact discovery deadline, if necessary. 6 C. Deposing counsel and defending counsel agree to notice depositions 7 sufficiently early to allow defending counsel time to prepare the deponent to testify 8 remotely and agree to accommodate reasonable scheduling requests. Fourteen days’ 9 notice shall typically be considered reasonable notice of the deposition, although 10 counsel agree to work cooperatively with one another and with the deponents to 11 accommodate reasonable scheduling requests. 12 D. Unless otherwise stated, this Order is not intended to alter, expand, or 13 limit the applicable Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Federal Rules of Evidence, 14 and/or court orders. 15 E. This Order shall remain in effect until either (a) local, state and federal 16 authorities issue orders, regulations, or guidance that would permit attendance at in- 17 person depositions, or (b) this Court issues a further order concerning the procedures 18 for taking depositions in this litigation. 19 III. PROCEDURES FOR TAKING DEPOSITIONS 20 A. Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 29(a) and Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(4), all further 21 depositions in this litigation shall be taken by remote means that comply with local, 22 state and federal guidance, regulations, and orders concerning social distancing and 23 public health.
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 9 10 Al Otro Lado, Inc., et al., Case No.: 17-cv-02366-BAS-KSC 11 Plaintiffs, 12 ORDER GRANTING UNOPPOSED v. JOINT MOTION FOR ENTRY OF 13 STIPULATED REMOTE Chad F. Wolf,1 et al., DEPOSITION PROTOCOL 14 [DOC. NO. 450] Defendants. 15 16 17 18 Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 1 and 29, and in response to the Court’s comments 19 during the March 27, 2020 telephonic joint status conference, the parties have met, 20 conferred, and agreed upon the following deposition protocol for the remaining 21 depositionsin this case(subject to schedule modifications, if necessary,agreed upon 22 by counsel for both parties). The parties submit that, given the ongoing COVID-19 23 pandemic, good cause exists for entry of the stipulated deposition protocol outlined 24 in this unopposed motion and proposed order. See, e.g., Dkt. 439; Sinceno v. 25 Riverside Church in the City of N.Y., 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 47859, at *1 (S.D.N.Y. 26 27 1 Acting Secretary Wolf is automatically substituted for former Acting Secretary McAleenan pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 25(d). 28 1 Mar. 18, 2020) (approving all depositions being taken by “telephone, 2 videoconference, or other remote means” in view of the COVID-19 pandemic); see 3 also Pearlstein v. Blackberry Ltd., 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 47032, at *2-3 (S.D.N.Y. 4 Mar. 16, 2020) (same); Thomas v. Wallace, Rush, Schmidt, Inc., 2020 U.S. Dist. 5 LEXIS 46925, at *6 (M.D. La. Mar. 18, 2020) (same). Cf. Automatic Equip. Mfg. 6 Co. v. Danko Mfg., 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 47350, at *6 (D. Neb. Mar. 12, 2020) 7 (permitting parties to hold Markman hearing by videoconference); ResCap 8 Liquidating Tr. v. Primary Residential Mortg., 2020 U.S. U.S. Dist. LEXIS 44607, 9 at *3 (D. Minn. Mar. 13, 2020) (COVID-19 “establish[ed] good cause for remote 10 testimony.”); De Lench v. Archie, 2020 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 58049, at *6 (D. Mass. 11 Apr. 2, 2020) (“In light of the current coronavirus pandemic, the Court encourages 12 the parties to avail themselves of video technology for meetings, depositions, and 13 other communication and interactions arising in the discovery process.”). Based on 14 the foregoing, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED: 15 I. DEFINITIONS 16 A. “Attending counsel” shall mean any legal counsel for a party that is 17 attending the deposition of a non-party. 18 B. “Court reporter” shall mean an individual retained by the deposing 19 party to transcribe the oral testimony offered at a deposition in the litigation and who 20 is authorized to administer oaths either by federal law or by the law of the place of 21 examination. 22 C. “Deposition” shall mean any deposition upon oral examination taken 23 pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 27, Fed. R. Civ. P. 30, Fed. R. Civ. P. 45, or any court 24 order. 25 D. “Deposing counsel” shall mean the legal counsel of the party or parties 26 noticing and taking a deposition in the litigation. 27 28 1 E. “Defending counsel” shall mean the legal counsel (including counsel 2 of record and agency/in-house counsel for any party or third-party) of the party, 3 parties, non-party, or non-parties defending a deposition in the litigation. 4 F. “Document” carries its broadest meaning consistent with Fed. R. Civ. 5 P. 34 and includes both ESI and Hard Copy Document. 6 G. “Electronically Stored Information” or “ESI” carries its broadest 7 possible meaning consistent with Fed. R. Civ. P. 34(a) and Fed. R. Evid. 1001. 8 H. “Exhibit” shall mean any Document or Electronically Stored 9 Information that is marked as an exhibit during a Deposition. 10 I. “Hard Copy Document” means any document or thing discoverable 11 under Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(l) and Fed. R. Civ. P. 34 that cannot be characterized as 12 ESI. 13 J. “Litigation” shall mean the case captioned above. 14 K. “Parties” shall mean Plaintiffs, Defendants, and their current and 15 former employees, executives, officers, and directors. 16 L. “Non-parties” shall mean all natural or legal persons that are not Parties 17 from whom a Party is seeking testimony at a deposition in the litigation. 18 II. GENERAL PRINCIPLES AND DURATION OF THIS ORDER 19 A. This Order is intended to allow the parties to continue deposition 20 discovery in light of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, with the goal of completing 21 discovery by the current June 19, 2020 fact discovery deadline. 22 B. The Court and counsel recognize that the COVID-19 pandemic requires 23 the parties to be flexible in completing deposition discovery in this litigation. The 24 parties are encouraged to take steps that will enable deponents, deposing counsel, 25 defending counsel, and attending counsel to complete depositions in a manner that 26 also takes into account the needs of dependent care and personal health care. In light 27 of the developing public health situation, the parties and non-parties shall meet, 28 confer, and cooperate with one another regarding the scheduling of depositions and 1 the procedures for taking depositions. In doing so, the parties and non-parties shall 2 make all reasonable efforts to accommodate reasonable requests for continuances of 3 depositions due to illnesses or dependent care needs of attorneys, deponents, or the 4 court reporter. Such continuances may include taking previously-scheduled 5 depositions after the fact discovery deadline, if necessary. 6 C. Deposing counsel and defending counsel agree to notice depositions 7 sufficiently early to allow defending counsel time to prepare the deponent to testify 8 remotely and agree to accommodate reasonable scheduling requests. Fourteen days’ 9 notice shall typically be considered reasonable notice of the deposition, although 10 counsel agree to work cooperatively with one another and with the deponents to 11 accommodate reasonable scheduling requests. 12 D. Unless otherwise stated, this Order is not intended to alter, expand, or 13 limit the applicable Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Federal Rules of Evidence, 14 and/or court orders. 15 E. This Order shall remain in effect until either (a) local, state and federal 16 authorities issue orders, regulations, or guidance that would permit attendance at in- 17 person depositions, or (b) this Court issues a further order concerning the procedures 18 for taking depositions in this litigation. 19 III. PROCEDURES FOR TAKING DEPOSITIONS 20 A. Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 29(a) and Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(4), all further 21 depositions in this litigation shall be taken by remote means that comply with local, 22 state and federal guidance, regulations, and orders concerning social distancing and 23 public health. “Remote means” shall include (a) telephone, (b) video-conferencing 24 platforms that allow for the deponent, attending counsel, deposing counsel, 25 defending counsel, court reporter, and videographer to participate in a deposition 26 without attending the deposition in-person, and (c) any other means that the deposing 27 counsel, defending counsel, and attending counsel agree to. 28 1 B. Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(f)(2), deposing counsel shall be 2 responsible for ensuring that any exhibits that they wish to mark and use at the 3 deposition can be shown to the witness in a manner that enables the witness to review 4 the exhibits during the course of the deposition. Such means of marking and using 5 exhibits for the deposition shall include, by way of example: (a) sending via Fed Ex, 6 U.S. Postal Service, or UPSpre-marked exhibits to thedeponent, defending counsel, 7 attending counsel, and the court reporter in advance of the deposition; (b) emailing 8 pre-marked exhibits to the deponent, defending counsel, attending counsel, and the 9 court reporter in advance of the deposition, (c) using a video conferencing platform 10 that enables deposing counsel to share exhibits with the deponent, court reporter, 11 defending counsel, and attending counsel, and (d) any other means that the deposing 12 counsel, defending counsel, and attending counsel agree to. The parties reserve the 13 right to request exhibits be emailed sufficiently in advance of the deposition to 14 enable the deponent or counsel to print them out for use during the deposition. If 15 the remote means utilized does not permit the court reporter to mark exhibits 16 remotely, deposing counsel shall be responsible for pre-marking exhibits. 17 C. Deposing counsel agrees to email defending counsel the exhibit(s) 18 before questioning the witness about them. Deposing counsel shall not begin 19 questioning a witness about an exhibit until defending counsel has acknowledged 20 that he or she has received a copy of that exhibitor has had the opportunity to retrieve 21 the document from the defending counsel’s document review system. 22 D. As used in Fed. R. Civ. P. 28(a)(1)(A), the “place of examination” is 23 the location of the deponent. A court reporter may administer an oath concerning a 24 deposition via remote means. 25 E. To the extent that a party serves a subpoena duces tecum requesting 26 that a deponent produce documents, ESI, or things at a deposition, deposing counsel, 27 defending counsel, and attending counsel shall meet, confer, and cooperate with one 28 another concerning remote means by which a deponent shall produce documents, 1 ESI, or things. Such remote means of document production shall include email and 2 the use of shared files. 3 F. Deposing counsel and defending counsel shall meet, confer, and 4 cooperate to ensure that the deponent has technology sufficient to attend a deposition 5 via remote means. If necessary, this shall include arranging for the deponent to 6 participate in a “test run” of the deposition video conferencing software being 7 utilized at the expense of the deposing party. 8 G. Deposing counsel is responsible for ensuring that the remote means 9 utilized for a deposition allow for the court reporter to accurately record the 10 deponent’s testimony. Either deposing counsel or defending counsel may elect to 11 have a technical specialist attend a deposition taken by remote means to ensure that 12 technical issues are dealt with in a timely manner. 13 H. Deposing counsel shall bear the cost of ensuring that the deponent has 14 the proper software, hardware and other relevant equipment to attend a deposition 15 by video conference. 16 I. Should technical issues prevent the court reporter from reliably hearing 17 or transcribing the testimony at any deposition taken pursuant to this order and such 18 technical issue cannot be remedied in a timely manner, deposing counsel, defending 19 counsel, and attending counsel shall meet, confer, and cooperate with one another 20 regarding the rescheduling of the deposition. 21 J. In addition to recording deposition testimony by stenographic means, 22 the deposing party may record the deposition via video. 23 K. All objections to the use and admissibility of the transcript or video of 24 a deposition taken pursuant to this order based on the fact that the deposition was 25 taken by remote means are deemed waived. 26 L. Deposing counsel and defending counsel shall be responsible for 27 ensuring that they have a means of communicating with co-counsel or the deponent, 28 as the case may be, during breaks in the deposition; the parties agree not to oppose 1 | reasonable accommodations to allow such conferences during breaks, as well as 2 | communications between co-counsel during the deposition. 3 M. If either party serves a subpoena after the date of this order seeking the 4 | deposition testimony of a third-party pursuant to this order, deposing counsel shall 5 || serve a copy of this order along with the subpoena. 6 N. All persons attending depositions taken by remote means are reminded 7 | that the typical rules of professionalism and etiquette during depositions still apply. 8 || All persons attending depositions taken pursuant to this order who do not have an 9 | immediate need to speak shall ensure that their telephone or video conference lines 10 | are muted. In addition, all persons attending depositions taken pursuant to this order 11 | shall ensure that they can do so in a space that is relatively free from distractions that 12 | would inhibit the course of the deposition. □□□ MODIFICATION 14 This order may be modified by a Stipulated Order of the Parties or by the 15 | Court for good cause shown. 16 | IT IS SO ORDERED. '7 | Dated May 13, 2020 Ni y Mii D- Hon/ Karen S. Crawford 19 United States Magistrate Judge 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28