OPINION OF THE COURT
ROSENN, Circuit Judge.
This appeal presents for review the issue of the constitutionality of restrictions imposed on the conduct and speech of municipal firemen. Here a fireman challenges the validity under the first amendment of certain regulations of the Wilmington Fire Bureau. In addition, he presents us with the question whether a trial judge may restrict communication between an attorney and client during the period the client is under cross-examination.
I.
The City of Wilmington employed Ronald J. Aiello as a fireman from June 3, 1966, until November 7,1975. On the evening of January 30, 1973, he became intoxicated and broke into a retail store in Wilmington, the Record Museum.1 He was found lying on the floor in the store by two policemen. Aiello remembers saying to the policemen that he was a city fireman or “please don’t arrest me.” The policemen disregarded his plea, arrested him, and subsequently charged him with burglary. Thereafter, the State nolle prossed the criminal charges then pending against Aiello because there appeared to be a reasonable doubt whether he had sufficient intent to commit a crime.2
While he was in jail Aiello was informed by Assistant Fire Chief Francis H. DiMi-chele that he was forthwith suspended from the Bureau of Fire pursuant to section 169.-16 and 169.23 of its Rules and Regulations. Those rules require a fireman under penalty of dismissal, suspension or demotion:
[848]*848169.16. To refrain from conduct unbecoming a fireman and a gentleman whether on or off duty. ■
169.23. Be governed by the customary rules of good behavior observed by law-abiding and self-respecting citizens. Regardless of the time or place, whether in uniform or not, members shall conduct themselves in a manner that will not bring discredit to themselves or to the Department.
Subsequently, Aiello was instructed by Fire Chief John J. Malloy to report to his fire station twice per day during the period of his suspension.3
After the state’s decision not to prosecute the charges against him, Aiello received two Charges and Specifications dated April 25, 1973, from the Fire Bureau. These charged him with violations of Rules 169.16 and 169.23 respectively. The charge under Rule 169.16 alleged that
Aiello failed to conduct himself in a manner conducive to good conduct and behavior. This unprofessional action reflects on his creditability as an employee of the Department of Public Safety as required by the Rules and Regulations of the Bureau of Fire.
The section 169.23 charge alleged:
Fireman Ronald Aiello did not govern himself by the customary rules of good behavior observed by law-abiding citizens and self-respecting citizens, but instead, conducted himself in a manner that brought discredit both to himself and to the Department of Public Safety.
All members of the Bureau of Fire must at all times maintain the highest standard of respect for others, both in nature of trust and confidence. By being found inside the Record Museum, after they were closed for business, you have, in the eyes of the public and the department, placed an obstacle to total trust and confidence so urgently needed in our line of duty.
Above action has damaged the good name of the Department by failure to observe rules of law-abiding citizens, created distrust in performance of duty in the eyes of all members of the Department of Public Safety.
A hearing on the charges was conducted on May 8,1973, before a trial board consisting of Deputy Chief Malloy, Assistant Chief Francis DiOrio, and Captain F. Thomas Savage, all named as defendants in this action. Although Aiello pled not guilty to the two charges he did not dispute the allegation that he had been found unaccountably sprawled inside the Record Museum.
In his defense Aiello argued that he did not intentionally or effectively violate the “high standard” required of firemen and had not brought discredit upon Wilmington’s fire department. The district court characterized the “main import” of Aiello’s testimony, as one of
personal problems stemming from family conflicts [which] placed him under heavy emotional stress, resulting in excessive drinking and culminating in the Record Museum incident. He also offered medical evidence to show that his current mental condition was not such that he could not completely perform his duties as a fireman. It was additionally noted that he was undergoing therapy on an ongoing basis to prevent any similar occurrence.
Aiello v. City of Wilmington, 426 F.Supp. 1272 (D.Del.1976).
The Board found Aiello guilty as charged. As punishment, the Board imposed several sanctions:
(1) one thousand hours penalty time on each of the two charges for a total of two thousand penalty hours;
(2) forfeiture of his salary from the date of suspension, January 30, through the date of the hearing, May 8; and
(3) reinstatement as of May 9, with probationary status until all penalty hours had been expended, and the stipulation that the probation period would in no [849]*849event be less than two years from May 9, 1973.
The Board also stated that any further violation of the two rules during the probationary period would result in his dismissal.
Aiello retired from service with the Fire Bureau because of psychiatric disability in November 1975. Prior to his retirement he had completed working a large portion of the penalty hours without pay.
In the meantime, Aiello filed a complaint on October 21, 1974, in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware, under 42 U.S.C. § 1983, initiating the instant action. He sought injunctive and declaratory, as well as monetary, relief on behalf of a class of similarly situated firemen.4 The amended complaint alleged, inter alia, that “Rule[s] 169.16 and 169.23 are unconstitutional in that they constitute an invasion of privacy in violation of the First, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments and furthermore they are overly broad and vague in violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments.” The amended complaint also alleged that “Bureau of Fire Rule 170.7 which bars gossiping about a member of the Department of Public Safety, and Rule 170.8 which prohibits criticizing an official action of a superior officer are unconstitutional in that they are vague and overbroad in violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments.”5
The defendants moved for summary judgment on all issues. Aiello cross-moved for summary judgment on his first amendment claims and two other issues not relevant here. The district court granted the defendants’ motion with respect to all but two issues and entered summary judgment for the defendants.6 The summary judgment disposed of all the first amendment claims before us.
The district court held that Aiello lacked standing to challenge Rules 169.16 and 169.-23 for vagueness because he was “the perpetrator of ‘hard [core] conduct which any reasonable person must know would be cause for discipline or dismissal from employment.’ ” Aiello v. City of Wilmington, supra, 426 F.Supp. at 1293. The court also rejected Aiello’s overbreadth attack on these rules. The court held that Aiello had failed “to satisfy the prerequisite for over-breadth consideration in two respects.” Id. First, the court found it “questionable whether his conduct fell within the purview of First Amendment activities, the cornerstone of the overbreadth doctrine.” Id. “More importantly,” the court noted, “[t]here is little doubt that in the present case Rules 169.16 and 169.23 legitimately apply to a substantial amount of conduct or number of activities which properly may be proscribed, and the overbreadth, if any, of the rules is marginal.” Id. at 1293-94. Finally, the court found Aiello’s allegations of chill to be merely subjective and thus that he lacked standing to challenge the Rules’ constitutionality. Aiello filed a motion seeking reconsideration of the court’s ruling that Rule 169.23 was not unconstitutionally overbroad in light of this court’s decision in Gasparinetti v. Kerr, 568 F.2d 311 (3d Cir. 1977).7 That motion was denied.
[850]*850In May 1978, the case was tried to a jury on the remaining substantive issues: whether the penalty imposed on Aiello by the Trial Board was unreasonable and viola-tive of substantive due process and whether he had been denied procedural due process. The jury found for the defendants on those issues and the court denied Aiello’s motion for a new trial. Aiello appealed.
II.
On appeal, Aiello argues that his first amendment attack on the Bureau of Fire rules should be considered with respect to two distinct time periods. The first is the period commencing with the incident of January 30, 1973, and extending until his Trial Board hearing of May 9, 1973. The second is during the period in which he was on probation, i. e., from the date of the hearing until his ultimate retirement from the fire department in November, 1975.8 We will consider each of these in turn.
As to the earlier period, Aiello contends that his conduct in entering the Museum and taking any goods was not intentional. He relies on testimony by the psychiatrist that, at the time Aiello smashed the Museum window, he had an “acute disassociative reaction with paranoid symptoms.” Aiello claims that because his conduct was unintentional it did not constitute “hardcore conduct,” and therefore the district court erred in holding that he did not have standing to challenge the Rules for vagueness.9
It is well-settled in American jurisprudence, that “a statute which either forbids or requires the doing of an act in terms so vague that men of common intelligence must necessarily guess as its meaning and differ as to its application, violates the first essential of due process of law.” Connally v. General Construction Co., 269 U.S. 385, 391, 46 S.Ct. 126, 127, 70 L.Ed. 322 (1926). Underlying this rule are concerns that individuals be afforded fair notice of proscribed conduct and that reasonably specific standards be set forth to guide the actions of law enforcement officials. See L. Tribe, American Constitutional Law (1978) at 718. In the first amendment context, such statutory vagueness is particularly objectionable because it may discourage or “chill” the exercise of protected first amendment rights. “Those . . . sensitive to the perils posed by . indefinite language, avoid the risk . . . only by restricting their conduct to that which is unquestionably safe.” Baggett v. Bullitt, 377 U.S. 360, 372, 84 S.Ct. 1316, 1323, 12 L.Ed.2d 377 (1963).
In asserting claims of unconstitutional overbreadth, a litigant whose speech or conduct may not itself be constitutionally protected may assert the rights of hypothetical third parties whose protected activities might be chilled by the statute. See Note, Standing to Assert Constitutional Jus Tertii, 88 Harv.L.Rev. 423, 424 (1974).10 When raising a claim of unconstitutional vagueness, however, the rule is otherwise. In the latter instance, the litigant must demonstrate that the statute under attack is vague as applied to his own conduct, regardless of its potentially vague application to others. Thus, when a litigant’s conduct clearly falls within the permissible purview of a statute, such an individual lacks standing to challenge the statute for vagueness, even though the statute may well be vague as applied to others.
In Civil Service Commission v. Letter Carriers, 413 U.S. 548, 93 S.Ct. 2880, 37 L.Ed.2d 796 (1973), the Court rejected, inter alia, a vagueness challenge to section 9(a) of the Hatch Act, 5 U.S.C. § 7324(a)(2), which prohibits federal employees from taking “an active part in political management or in political campaigns.” The Court noted [851]*851that the scope of the statute had been somewhat defined and narrowed through “longstanding interpretations” by the Civil Service Commission. 413 U.S. at 575, 93 S.Ct. at 2895. Guided by these interpretations, the Court found that the terms of the statute were such that “the ordinary person exercising common sense can sufficiently understand and comply with, without sacrifice to the public interest.” Id. at 579, 93 S.Ct. at 2897. The Court concluded: “Surely there seemed to be little question in the minds of the plaintiffs who brought this lawsuit as to the meaning of the law, or as to whether or not the conduct in which they desire to engage was or was not prohibited by the Act.” Id.
The Court found that the Oklahoma equivalent of the federal Hatch Act was not unconstitutionally vague in Broadrick v. Oklahoma, 413 U.S. 601, 93 S.Ct. 2908, 37 L.Ed.2d 830 (1973). The statute at issue there prohibited state employees from engaging in a wide range of partisan political activities. Relying on its holding in Civil Service Commission v. Letter Carriers, supra, the Court found that “it is all but frivolous to suggest that the [statute] fails to give adequate warning of what activities it proscribes or fails to set out ‘implicit standards’ for those who must apply it.” 413 U.S. at 607, 93 S.Ct. at 2913. Furthermore, the Court observed that “even if the outermost boundaries of [the statute] may be imprecise, any such uncertainty has little relevance here, where appellants’ conduct falls squarely within the ‘hard core’ of the statute’s proscriptions and appellants concede as much.” Id. at 608, 93 S.Ct. at 2914.
Herzbrun v. Milwaukee County, 504 F.2d 1189 (7th Cir. 1974), is a similar case. There, employees of a county welfare department were discharged under the provision of a county civil service rule for having deliberately disrupted the phone system at the welfare department. The employees challenged the regulation under which they were terminated as unconstitutionally vague. The challenged regulation stated that cause for discharge was provided by one
guilty of acts . . . unbecoming an incumbent of the particular office or position held, which render his suspension, demotion, or discharge necessary or desirable for the economical or efficient conduct of the business of the county or for the best interest of the city government.
The Seventh Circuit had no difficulty in finding that
an employee’s deliberate promotion of and participation in a massive and prolonged disruption of the telephone communication system of a very large departmental office is “hard core” conduct which any reasonable person must know would be cause for discipline or dismissal from employment whether described in a rule or not.
Id. at 1193. Accordingly, the court held that the plaintiff did not have standing to challenge the rule for vagueness.
Although not proscribed in specific terms by the Fire Bureau Rules, we agree with the district court that Aiello’s conduct on the evening of January 30, 1973, was also hardcore conduct plainly within the scope of those rules.11 Aiello’s argument that his entry into the record store was unintentional and therefore not “hard core” is without merit. Any reasonable person should have known that breaking and entering into a private establishment was within the reach of the regulations. Even though his drunken state may have affected the mens rea necessary to classify his conduct as criminal,12 it does not deprive the [852]*852City of the right to levy sanctions against employees who engage in such conduct.13
We therefore sustain the district court’s holding that Aiello’s conduct on the evening of January 30,1973, was within the scope of the Bureau of Fire regulations and, thus, those rules were not vague as applied to him.
III.
Aiello also contends that Rules 169.16 and 169.23 are unconstitutionally overbroad. Although challenges for vagueness may not be asserted vicariously, the Supreme Court has “consistently allowed attacks on overly broad statutes with no requirement that the person making the attack demonstrate that his own conduct could not be regulated by a statute drawn with the requisite narrow specificity.” Dombrowski v. Pfister, 380 U.S. 479, 486, 85 S.Ct. 1116, 1121, 14 L.Ed.2d 22 (1965). See Thornhill v. Alabama, 310 U.S. 88, 97-98, 60 S.Ct. 736, 741-742, 84 L.Ed. 1093 (1940). The rationale permitting such a liberalized rule for standing in the first amendment overbreadth context is the very real concern that, in a democratic society, “the possible harm ... in permitting some unprotected speech to go unpunished is outweighed by the possibility that protected speech of others may be muted and perceived grievances left to fester because of the possible inhibitory effects of overly broad statutes.” Broadrick v. Oklahoma, 413 U.S. 601, 612, 93 S.Ct. 2908, 2916, 37 L.Ed.2d 830 (1973). Litigants, therefore, may “challenge a statute not because their own rights of free expression are violated, but because of a judicial prediction or assumption that the statute’s very existence may cause others not before the court to refrain from constitutionally protected speech or expression.” Id.
Because invalidation for facial over-breadth is “strong medicine,” there are nonetheless limits to its application.14 The standards for the use of the facial over-breadth doctrine were set forth by the Supreme Court in Broadrick v. Oklahoma, supra. There, three employees of the State of Oklahoma were charged with violations of a state law which, like the federal Hatch Act, restricted the political activities of state employees. Although conceding that the statute was constitutional as applied to their own conduct, the employees nevertheless argued that the statute reached protected as well as unprotected conduct and therefore must be struck down as unconstitutionally overbroad. The Court, however, rejected the overbreadth argument. The Court reasoned that the function of facial over breadth adjudication
attenuates as the otherwise unprotected behavior it forbids the State to sanction moves from “pure speech” toward conduct and that conduct — even if expressive — falls within the scope of otherwise valid criminal laws that reflect legitimate state interests in maintaining comprehensive controls over harmful, constitutionally unprotected conduct.
Broadrick v. Oklahoma, supra, 413 U.S. at 615, 93 S.Ct. at 2917. Thus, the Court concluded that “where conduct and not merely speech is involved,” the overbreadth of a statute must not only be real but also substantial, viewed in light of the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep. Id.
Applying the substantial overbreadth test to the statute at issue in Broadrick, the Court concluded that the challenged section of the Oklahoma statute need not be dis[853]*853carded in toto “because some persons arguably protected conduct may or may not be caught or chilled by the statute.”15 Id. at 618, 93 S.Ct. at 2919. In reaching this conclusion the Court noted that the statute sought “to regulate political activity in an even-handed neutral manner,” that it had been narrowed by administrative interpretation, and that the employees’ conduct was clearly within its permissible scope. Id. at 616-18, 93 S.Ct. at 2918.
It is not clear whether Broadrick is appropriately viewed as addressing only the issue of standing or whether the Court there also reached the merits of the over-breadth argument. See Turchick v. United States, 561 F.2d 719, 721 (8th Cir. 1977). The distinction, however, may have little significance. See Note, First Amendment Vagueness and Overbreadth: Theoretical Revisions by the Burger Court, 31 Vand.L. Rev. 609, 613 (1975). In any case it is apparent that, where Broadrick is applicable, a statute or rule must be substantially overbroad before it may be invalidated merely for facial overbreadth.
In this case the district court found “little doubt that . . Rules 169.16 and 169.-23 legitimately apply to a substantial amount of conduct or number of activities which properly may be proscribed, and the overbreadth, if any, of the rules is marginal.” Aiello v. City of Wilmington, supra, 426 F.Supp. at 1294. Aiello, however, asserts that it is clear that Rules 169.16 and 169.23 prohibit protected speech or association and therefore their overbreadth cannot be dismissed as “marginal.” But we have already determined that Aiello’s conduct on the night of January 30, 1973, was “hardcore conduct” within the permissible sweep of the Bureau of Fire rules. The activity for which he was charged was conduct and not speech.16 Further, the rules under which he was disciplined are not directed solely at “pure speech” but are aimed at a range of conduct and speech.17 Accordingly [854]*854we must proceed under the Broadrick rule to determine if the overbreadth, if any, of the Bureau of Fire rules is substantial. Some guidance for the interpretation of Rules 169.16 and 169.23 can be found, according to testimony of former Fire Chief Malloy, in Rule 170. Chief Blackburn, currently head of the Bureau of Fire, concurred, stating that Rule 170 is a guideline for determining what is conduct unbecoming a fireman and a gentleman. Aiello claims, however, that many of the provisions of Rule 170 prohibit protected conduct or association and thus that rules 169.16 and 169.23 are substantially overbroad.18
Although the Supreme Court has not addressed precisely the factors relevant to a determination whether a statute is substantially overbroad, an examination of Broadrick itself, and the decisions of other courts applying the “substantial over-breadth” test, offers some guidelines. In Broadrick the Court concluded that the state statute at issue had been interpreted to restrict the wearing of political buttons or the use of bumper stickers, which would seem to be clearly within the protected scope of the first amendment. Nonetheless, the Court found the challenged statute not to be substantially overbroad. The Court’s opinion was apparently based in large part upon its belief that the intrusions upon protected conduct sanctioned by the statute were marginal compared with its primary thrust aimed at clearly regulable conduct. See The Supreme Court, 1972 Term, 87 Harv.L.Rev. 1,151 (1973). “The first guideline which should control overbreadth scrutiny is the most obvious: a law ought not to be struck down for overbreadth unless it lends itself to a substantial number of applications.” Note, The First Amendment Overbreadth Doctrine, 83 Harv.L.Rev. 844, 858-59 (1970). Judge Coffin applied this principle in Magill v. Lynch, 560 F.2d 22, 30 (1st Cir. 1977), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 1063, 98 S.Ct. 1236, 55 L.Ed.2d 763 (1978), measuring substantiality of the overbreadth by “the number of valid applications compared to the number of potentially invalid applications.” See Turchick v. United States, 561 F.2d 719, 725 (8th Cir. 1977). At the same time Judge Coffin cautioned that
[s]oine sensitivity to reality is needed; an invalid application that is far-fetched does not deserve as much weight as one that is probable. The question is a matter of degree; it will never be possible to say that a ratio of one invalid to nine valid applications makes a law substantially overbroad. .
Magill v. Lynch, supra, 560 F.2d at 30.
Merely balancing the number of permissible applications obviously is not sufficient. Even one unconstitutional application may affect many individuals and therefore may be said to be “substantial.” See The Supreme Court, 1972 Term, supra, 87 Harv.L.Rev. 151. Thus, the historic or likely frequency of a statute’s conceivably impermissible applications is also relevant. If that frequency is relatively low, it may be more appropriate to guard against the statute’s conceivably impermissible applications through case-by-case adjudication rather than through facial invalidation.
Further, the substantiality of a statute’s overbreadth may be determined by the nature of the activity or conduct sought to be regulated. A statutory scheme which encompasses the kind of expressive and associational activity that has been traditionally held to be entitled to a high degree of first amendment protection should be subjected to closer judicial scrutiny than one which does not. See Note, The First Amendment Overbreadth Doctrine, supra, 80 Harv.L.Rev. at 860.
Finally, the nature of the state interest underlying the statute or regulation is also relevant. Facial invalidation neces[855]*855sarily encroaches upon legislative prerogatives. Those sections of a statute covering conduct which is permissibly regulable are swept aside for fear of the chilling effect emanating from its impermissibly broad language. This may not be an undesirable result, for the first amendment is nonmajo-ritarian in nature and must in the last resort depend upon the courts for enforcement. Yet facial invalidation is not a finely honed scalpel in the hands of a judicial surgeon but a broad-blade instrument, which must be applied with restraint. “[FJacial overbreadth adjudication is an exception to our traditional rules of practice and ... its function, a limited one at the outset, attenuates as the otherwise unprotected behavior that it forbids the State to sanction moves from ‘pure speech’ toward conduct . . . .” Broadrick v. Oklahoma, supra, 413 U.S. at 615, 93 S.Ct. at 2917.
Having articulated the factors relevant to a determination of “substantial over-breadth,” we now turn to Gasparinetti v. Kerr, supra, 568 F.2d at 315, relied on by Aiello, where we observed:
When faced with an overbreadth challenge a court must decide, first if there is a legitimate and substantial state interest in regulating a class of speech, and, if so, whether that interest is being “pursued by means that broadly stifle fundamental personal liberties when the end can be more narrowly achieved.”
Although public employees, like all citizens, have first amendment rights, “[t]he area of unregulable speech available to public employees is . narrower than that available to the public at large.” Id.19
Accordingly, in certain instances, the discharge of public employees on the basis of speech has been held not to violate first amendment guarantees. Arnett v. Kennedy, 416 U.S. 134, 94 S.Ct. 633, 40 L.Ed.2d 15 (1974). Rules restricting or forbidding political activity of public employees have been upheld against first amendment challenges. See Broadrick v. Oklahoma, supra; Civil Service Commission v. Letter Carriers, supra. And in a professional fire department, the area of unregulable speech may be somewhat less available than for public employees generally. There, particular concerns of efficiency, discipline, and public trust are present. Firemen, for instance, frequently go into homes and other establishments while the occupants are not present. Wilmington’s interest in the challenged regulations, thus, appears substantial.
As can be observed from the provisions of Rule 170, the thrust of Rules 169.16 and 169.23 is substantially aimed at conduct and speech of firemen which could reasonably be expected to have a deleterious effect upon the City’s legitimate concerns for efficiency, discipline and morale within the Fire Bureau, as well as public trust in the Fire Bureau’s integrity. Rule 170 prohibits, inter alia: neglecting to assist a fellow fireman in the performance of a duty, accepting or soliciting bribes, rewards, or favors, and making a false official report. Furthermore, the prohibitions against releasing departmental information without authorization and prohibiting firemen from engaging in partisan political activity also seem to reflect legitimate concerns for the properly regulable activities of such public employees.20
[856]*856Although a few of the interpretive guidelines of Rule 170 suggest that Rules 169.16 and 169.23 may have arguably over-broad applications, the number of clearly valid applications of Rule 169.16 and 169.23, reflected in the guidelines far outweighs the conceivably impermissible applications. Thus, the facial overbreadth of these rules, if any, fades significantly when compared with their otherwise legitimate sweep.21 We therefore hold the Rules are not substantially overbroad and we perceive no error in the district court’s holding that Aiello lacked standing to challenge the Bureau of Fire rules for unconstitutional overbreadth as to the events of January 30, 1973.22
IV.
Aiello brings a separate overbreadth challenge to Rules 169.16 and 169.23 for the period of his probation. In addition, he asserts that Rules 170.7 and 170.8 are over-broad. Rules 170.7 and 170.8 proscribe under penalty:
170.7. Gossiping about a member of the Department of Public Safety concerning either his personal character or conduct to the detriment of the member.
170.8. Criticizing the official action of a superior officer.
Because Aiello was not actually charged with a violation of these rules during his probationary period, despite his admitted activities within the scope of the alleged chilling effect, the district court chose to treat his attack on the rules as one of unconstitutional chill. Accordingly, the district court dismissed this challenge in the following words:
The description of a pall cast over his life by operation of the regulations is just not consonant with his own deposition testimony concerning his activities during the probationary period. For example, his once monthly night of drinking while on probation — the very activity which by his own admission had precipitated his prior difficulties — saps the force of his “chill” complaint. Moreover, despite his broad assertion of a fear to appeal his Trial Board sentence, Aiello admits sending a letter to Chief Blackburn several months after the Trial Board hearing requesting payment for the time during which he was suspended. In addition, it is clear that he did not hesitate in attempting to enlist the firefighter’s union’s assistance in his behalf.
426 F.Supp. at 1294 (footnotes omitted).
We have already held that Aiello lacks standing to challenge the overbreadth of Rules 169.16 and 169.23 as to the events of January 30, 1973. For the period during which he was on probation, however, Aiello asserts that he was deterred from engaging in otherwise protected activity by the threat that if he violated these rules he [857]*857would be subject to dismissal. Aiello alleges a chilling effect not only upon his conduct but upon his speech as well. For instance, he argues that, because of the threat of dismissal, he was afraid to complain to the Fire Bureau during this period. In contrast to his allegation about the Record Museum incident, an incident which cannot be characterized as speech, Aiello alleges an impermissible restriction of his speech during the probationary period. The Broadrick “substantial overbreadth” requirement is therefore inapplicable because it is restricted to conduct.
Nevertheless, the general standing requirements of article III must still be met. “The very essence of a chilling effect is an act of deterrence.” Shauer, Fear, Risk and the First Amendment: Unraveling the “Chilling Effect”, 58 B.U.L.Rev. 685 (1978). An impermissible chill is created when one is deterred from engaging in protected activity by the existence of a governmental regulation or the threat of prosecution thereunder. But generalized allegations of chill are not an adequate substitute for a claim of specific present objective harm or a threat of specific future harm. Laird v. Tatum, 408 U.S. 1, 13-14, 92 S.Ct. 2318, 2325-2326, 33 L.Ed.2d 154 (1972). Thus, when a plaintiff is not the subject of an enforcement action under an allegedly overbroad statute, there must be some likelihood that he has been or will be deterred from engaging in constitutionally protected activity by the operation of the regulations.23
Aiello complains that, after his Trial Board hearing, he felt like he was living under a cloud and had to watch his step. These constraints, he alleges, required that he refrain from engaging in adultery, listening to loud music, and in controversies and “kitchen talk,” i. e., use of vulgar language.24 Aiello also claims that his fear of the rules made him reluctant to appeal the decision of the Trial Board or to complain about his treatment.
Aiello’s probationary period is over and he has since retired from the Fire Bureau. Thus, Aiello is no longer subject to the proscriptive effect of the regulations. Rather, .his claim of an unconstitutional chilling effect rests upon a discrete period in the past. It is reasonable, therefore, to look to the record to determine whether his conduct during that period is consistent with his claims.
In the case before us we are faced not with a silent record but with a record of conduct, admitted by Aiello, which directly contradicts his charges of a chilling effect. The record indicates that he corresponded directly with Chief Blackburn and requested that he be compensated for the period of his suspension. Aiello also requested compensation for “the time he spent in reporting in.” In addition, he conceded during his depositions that he became drunk a number of times during the period following his Trial Board hearing. The record also indicates that Aiello complained to and sought advice from his union during the probation[858]*858ary period. Finally, no disciplinary action was taken against Aiello for having engaged in those activities.
Although Aiello might have chosen to submit other evidentiary material indicating the existence of a genuine issue of material fact, he did not.25 His own recital in the deposition of his activities during the probationary period is undisputed and directly undermines the allegations in his pleadings of a chilling effect.26 Thus, we agree with the district court that there was no genuine issue of material fact and that the defendants were entitled to prevail as a matter of law.
Y.
Aiello’s final contention concerns the conduct of his trial in the district court. He asserts that the court erred in refusing to permit him to confer with his counsel during breaks in Aiello’s cross-examination. The district court directed Aiello’s counsel not to communicate with him during breaks in Aiello’s cross-examination for lunch and overnight.
Aiello urges that we extend the rule set forth in Geders v. United States, 425 U.S. 80, 96 S.Ct. 1330, 47 L.Ed.2d 592 (1976), to civil cases. In Geders, the trial judge ordered the defendant in a federal criminal prosecution not to consult with his attorney “about anything” during a seventeen hour overnight recess in the trial between his direct and cross-examination. There, as here, the district court was concerned about the possible “coaehing” of the defendants. The Supreme Court, however, held that the district court’s order impinged upon the defendant’s sixth amendment right to the assistance of counsel.
Some years before the Geders decision we had occasion to consider a similar situation in United States v. Venuto, 182 F.2d 519 (3d Cir. 1950). In Venuto, the district court forbade conversation between the defendant and his counsel during an 18-hour, overnight recess in the defendant’s cross-examination. We rejected the Government’s assertion that the defendant should be required to make a specific showing of prejudice and held that the district court’s ruling was “most certainly [a] deprivation of the defendant’s constitutional right to consult counsel at all stages of the proceeding.”27 Id. at 522. We have not had occasion, however, to consider the effect of such a rule in the context of civil litigation.
The extension of the Geders rule to civil cases is an interesting but troublesome question that has been addressed only infrequently by the courts and not at all by commentators.28 We need not decide the [859]*859issue on this record however. The thrust of Aiello’s complaint is that, because of the district court’s ruling, he was prevented from consulting with his counsel concerning the examination of two expert witnesses who testified during breaks in Aiello’s cross-examination. Except for those witnesses, we are not directed to any other particular matter pertaining to trial strategy as to which consultation would have been helpful. As for the expert witnesses, it is not clear on this record that Aiello was in fact deprived of his right to confer with counsel concerning the testimony.
During the relatively brief period Aiello was under cross-examination, from the morning of May 4,1978, until the afternoon of the next day, his testimony was twice interrupted for the introduction of expert testimony in his behalf. Although Aiello’s counsel now claims that the court’s earlier ruling precluded consultation concerning the expert’s testimony, we do not view the restriction as having that purpose or effect. The district court made it clear that it was concerned only that “the witness should not be coached during cross-examination.” If counsel were concerned that consultation as to the expert witnesses was barred, they might have requested clarification or an opportunity to confer on matters pertaining to the experts. Moreover, the experts were Aiello’s witnesses, and if he felt hampered by the court’s direction, they could have been called following the conclusion of Aiel-lo’s cross-examination. Finally, we note that, upon the termination of the cross-examination, the district court granted Aiello permission to consult with his counsel during a ten minute break prior to redirect examination. Counsel, however, chose not to exercise that authority. On this record, therefore, we cannot conclude that the district court committed reversible error.
VI.
In summary, we conclude that Aiello, as the perpetrator of “hard core” conduct, is within the scope of the Bureau of Fire rules and, thus, those regulations are not vague as applied to him. Those rules are not substantially overbroad and Aiello therefore lacks standing to challenge them for unconstitutional overbreadth as to the period from January 30, 1973, to May 9, 1973. Aiello’s allegations of chill in his probationary period, involving a discrete period in the past, are contradicted by the record, and thus he also lacks standing to challenge the rules for unconstitutional overbreadth for that later period. Finally, Aiello has failed to demonstrate reversible error as a result of the district court’s refusal to allow him to consult with his attorney while on cross-examination.
Accordingly, the judgment of the district court will be affirmed. Each side to bear its own costs.