United States v. Ronald Seiver

692 F.3d 774, 2012 WL 3686387, 2012 U.S. App. LEXIS 18185
CourtCourt of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit
DecidedAugust 28, 2012
Docket11-3716
StatusPublished
Cited by43 cases

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United States v. Ronald Seiver, 692 F.3d 774, 2012 WL 3686387, 2012 U.S. App. LEXIS 18185 (7th Cir. 2012).

Opinion

POSNER, Circuit Judge.

The defendant pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography and sexual exploitation of a child, see 18 U.S.C. §§ 2252A(a)(5)(B), 2251(a), and was sentenced to 420 months in prison. But he reserved the right to appeal for the limited purpose of challenging the legality of the search that had yielded evidence that substantiated his guilt. The appeal presents the recurrent issue of “staleness” as a basis for concluding that a computer *775 search warrant was not supported by probable cause.

The warrant affidavit said that law enforcement authorities had discovered that a pornographic video which a 13-year-girl had made of herself and uploaded to the Internet had been downloaded to a computer at the defendant’s home and that 16 still images from that video — three of which were pornographic images of the girl — had been uploaded from that computer to an image-sharing website. A Facebook message with a link to that website had been sent to the girl’s stepmother from the same computer. She alerted the authorities, who identified the computer’s Internet Protocol address from the website. The address was registered to Ronald Seiver, the defendant.

He argues that there was no reason to believe that seven months after he had uploaded child pornography there would still be evidence of the crime on his computer. Actually a search of his computer was likely to find evidence of three crimes: receipt of child pornography (the downloading of the pornographic video); distribution (the uploading of the pornographic images he obtained from the video); and possession (the storage of the pornography on his computer). 18 U.S.C. §§ 2252, 2252A. He was allowed to plead guilty to only the last of these crimes (besides the sexual-exploitation offense, which was unrelated to the video), though there is no doubt that he committed the other offenses as well. Even if he had deleted the child pornography, a successful recovery of the images from his hard drive by an FBI computer forensic expert would establish that he had possessed them at one time, well within the five-year statute of limitations.

Nevertheless he contends that the facts that would establish probable cause for a search of his computer were “stale.” He adds that downloading a single video and uploading still images derived from it could not establish that he was a “collector” of child pornography who could therefore be assumed to retain indefinitely any illegal pornographic images that he had downloaded. The government concedes the premise that “stale” computer contents are not a permissible basis for a determination of probable cause but argues that a law enforcement officer “could reasonably have concluded that the [defendant], like the vast majority of those who possess and distribute child pornography, would still be in possession of those photographs months later” — that he was, in other words, a “collector.”

So the parties agree on the framework for analysis — the importance of “staleness” and the importance to a determination of “staleness” of whether the suspect was a “collector” and thus likely to have “retained” or “maintained” rather than “destroyed” the pornographic images that he had acquired. The parties are faithfully reciting terms appearing in a very large number of cases concerning probable cause for a computer search. See, e.g., United States v. Pappas, 592 F.3d 799, 803-04 (7th Cir.2010); United States v. Prideaux-Wentz, 543 F.3d 954, 958-59 (7th Cir.2008); United States v. Estey, 595 F.3d 836, 839-40 (8th Cir.2010); United States v. Lemon, 590 F.3d 612, 614-16 (8th Cir.2010); United States v. Potts, 586 F.3d 823, 830 (10th Cir.2009); United States v. Paull, 551 F.3d 516, 522-23 (6th Cir.2009); United States v. Morales-Aldahondo, 524 F.3d 115, 119 (1st Cir.2008); United States v. Perrine, 518 F.3d 1196, 1205-06 (10th Cir.2008); United States v. Irving, 452 F.3d 110, 125 (2d Cir.2006). But the parties to this ease, and the authors of the opinions in the cases we’ve just cited (and in other cases that we could cite involving computer searches for child pornography), *776 appear to be laboring under the misapprehension that deleting a computer file destroys it, so that if the defendant had deleted the pornographic images between their uploading to the Internet and the search of his computer the search would not have yielded up the images, or evidence of their earlier presence in the computer, unless it’s a case in which the defendant is a “collector” of child pornography who decided to “keep” copies of the images that he’d downloaded.

The concern with “staleness” versus freshness and “collecting” versus destroying reflects a misunderstanding of computer technology. (A number of cases, however, though none in our court, reflect the correct understanding. See, e.g., United States v. Allen, 625 F.3d 830, 843 (5th Cir.2010); United States v. Richardson, 607 F.3d 357, 370-71 (4th Cir.2010); United States v. Lewis, 605 F.3d 395, 402 (6th Cir.2010).) When you delete a file, it goes into a “trash” folder, and when you direct the computer to “empty” the trash folder the contents of the folder, including the deleted file, disappear. But the file hasn’t left the computer. The trash folder is a waste-paper basket; it has no drainage pipe to the outside. The file seems to have vanished only because the computer has removed it from the user interface and so the user can’t “see” it any more. Virginia M. Kendall & T. Markus Funk, Child Exploitation and Trafficking 275-76 (2012); United States v. Flyer, 633 F.3d 911, 918 (9th Cir.2011); United States v. Gourde, 440 F.3d 1065, 1071 (9th Cir.2006) (en banc). But it’s still there, and normally is recoverable by computer experts until it’s overwritten because there is no longer unused space in the computer’s hard drive.

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