JOHN R. BROWN, Circuit Judge.
The question here is whether proceeds generated by the transfer of sand and gravel leases constituted capital gain or ordinary income subject to depletion under the 1939 Code [section 117 et seq., 26 U.S.C.A. § 117 et seq.]. As tried below and argued generally here, this turned ostensibly on whether the transfer amounted to an outright sale, or whether it had some lesser status analogous to a lease or sublease so that the transferor is deemed to have an economic interest in all or a part of the thing transferred. This approach of a lease, which we regard as erroneous on this record, led both parties to other interesting and perhaps troublesome subsidiary problems which, as we view it, really have nothing to do with the case and its proper disposition.
The District Court, on a record consisting primarily of a stipulation as to the underlying facts and the authenticity of the transfer documents and conveyances and supplemented only by brief oral testimony of the Taxpayer concerning some physical attributes of the property and that of his lawyer asserting now that the aim was to achieve capital gains, held for the Taxpayer. The Trial Court’s theory was that it was all one package with the objective being to sell an entire going gravel business so that all proceeds, no matter how characterized in the conveyances or when or how received, were a part of the consideration of the sale, and therefore constituted capital gains. The Government appeals. We hold that the Government is correct and reverse. We do it on the basis that the proceeds in question came from a production payment expressly reserved by the Taxpayer as grantor. By it the Taxpayer had an economic interest, and the proceeds are universally considered ordinary income subject to depletion.
Though we disagree with the decision of the District Court and reject either as irrelevant or unsupported, so-called fact findings thought to be crucial, we refer to the comprehensive opinion of the District Judge which makes it unnecessary for us to state the facts in great detail. Witte v. United States, W.D.La., 1960, 201 F.Supp. 525.
Taxpayer and his two partners owned a going, thriving sand and gravel business in Louisiana. The partnership had ascertained that its machinery and equipment, such as drag lines, bulldozers, tractors, clam shell buckets, pumps, convey- or belts, hydraulic dredges, workboats and similar plant was well worth 1 million dollars. Test bores indicated that under leases, mining agreements, ownership of sand in place or similar agreements with various third party landowners, the partnership had under effective ownership reserves of at least 40 million tons of sand and gravel of which at least 60% (24 million tons) was commercially recoverable. The value was, they concluded and no one now disputes, of a value well in excess of 1 million dollars. After negotiations with the Murchinson interests of Dallas, Texas, the partners agreed to sell. To exploit existing good will, the purchaser was to be a new Delaware corporation, Witte Gravel Company, and the Taxpayer was to (and did) continue actively in the new Company’s management for several years.
[83]*83Before discussing the mechanics of the transfer, it simplifies things considerably to eliminate at the outset the controversy with which each of the parties has been so preoccupied below and here. The Government, on the one hand, insists that it must be fragmented into a series of separate isolated agreements with each paper bearing its own legal consequences without regard to any other. The Taxpayer, on the other hand, asserts that this was the sale of an entire going business so that it should be looked at as the sale of a partnership business.1 To this the Government rejoined in the words of Williams v. McGowan, 2 Cir., 1945, 152 F.2d 570, 572, that “upon the sale of a going business it is to be comminuted into its fragments,” so that the gain on each fragment is characterized as capital gain or ordinary income as the case might be.2 But as we recently pointed out, this Court has long rejected the aggregate theory and has followed the entity concept in determining the tax consequences in the sale of a going business. Sherlock v. Commissioner, 5 Cir., 1961, 294 F.2d 863.
For reasons we later discuss, this initial intramural contest is of no consequence. But we entertain no doubt that the Taxpayer is right that this was, and has to be, regarded as a single transaction in which a going business enterprise was being transferred to entirely new ownership.3 Consequently each paper, document, or conveyance, while important and enforceable in accordance with its own terms, is not to be looked upon as an isolated thing. All are to be treated as part and parcel of a continuous comprehensive transaction. But for the reasons we later point out, this is far from agreeing with Taxpayer that the cash payable ($578,550.53) and the production payment ($1,000,000) are to be aggregated as though the purchase price was declared to be $1,578,550.53.
To effectuate the sale, four separate documents were used: a bill of sale, a promissory note, a chattel mortgage, and a mineral (sand and gravel) conveyance. Only this mineral conveyance gives rise to the problem. The bill of sale, the promissory note, and the chattel mortgage were all complementary. They were concerned solely with the equipment being transferred. For this equipment the purchaser agreed to pay $578,550.-53.4 All were effective as of January 1, 1953.
Simultaneously Taxpayer and his partners executed the “conveyance and agreement” by which, “for a valuable consideration which Assignee has * * * paid * * *,” the Assignors “do hereby grant, bargain, sell, transfer, assign, set over and deliver” eight specified “instruments of lease and/or instruments of sale and conveyance” of sand and [84]*84gravel properties. The assignment was effective as of 7:00 o’clock a. m. January 1, 1953 and provided that “All * * * operating expenses incurred and accrued from and after such date and hour shall be borne and paid by Assignee and As-signee is hereby granted and shall be entitled to receive all income and proceeds * * * from the sale * * * of sand, gravel, * * * produced * * or disposed of * * * after such date and hour.” But immediately following these granting provisions, the conveyance provided that:5
“There is by Assignor excepted from this assignment and expressly reserved unto themselves and their respective heirs * * *, as a limited overriding royalty interest or production payment * * *, an undivided fractional percentage of all sand and/or gravel * * * produced * * * from the lands * * sufficient to yield * * * the full net sum of One Million Dollars ($1,-000,000) * *
The conveyance went on to provide the manner and rate per unit for the satisfaction of this production payment. It excluded positively any personal liability on the purchaser for the production payment and likewise excluded any lien or security of any kind save the sand and gravel for the satisfaction of the production payment.
Finally, it was provided that when Taxpayer had received the full $1,000,-000 from the reserved and retained in[85]
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JOHN R. BROWN, Circuit Judge.
The question here is whether proceeds generated by the transfer of sand and gravel leases constituted capital gain or ordinary income subject to depletion under the 1939 Code [section 117 et seq., 26 U.S.C.A. § 117 et seq.]. As tried below and argued generally here, this turned ostensibly on whether the transfer amounted to an outright sale, or whether it had some lesser status analogous to a lease or sublease so that the transferor is deemed to have an economic interest in all or a part of the thing transferred. This approach of a lease, which we regard as erroneous on this record, led both parties to other interesting and perhaps troublesome subsidiary problems which, as we view it, really have nothing to do with the case and its proper disposition.
The District Court, on a record consisting primarily of a stipulation as to the underlying facts and the authenticity of the transfer documents and conveyances and supplemented only by brief oral testimony of the Taxpayer concerning some physical attributes of the property and that of his lawyer asserting now that the aim was to achieve capital gains, held for the Taxpayer. The Trial Court’s theory was that it was all one package with the objective being to sell an entire going gravel business so that all proceeds, no matter how characterized in the conveyances or when or how received, were a part of the consideration of the sale, and therefore constituted capital gains. The Government appeals. We hold that the Government is correct and reverse. We do it on the basis that the proceeds in question came from a production payment expressly reserved by the Taxpayer as grantor. By it the Taxpayer had an economic interest, and the proceeds are universally considered ordinary income subject to depletion.
Though we disagree with the decision of the District Court and reject either as irrelevant or unsupported, so-called fact findings thought to be crucial, we refer to the comprehensive opinion of the District Judge which makes it unnecessary for us to state the facts in great detail. Witte v. United States, W.D.La., 1960, 201 F.Supp. 525.
Taxpayer and his two partners owned a going, thriving sand and gravel business in Louisiana. The partnership had ascertained that its machinery and equipment, such as drag lines, bulldozers, tractors, clam shell buckets, pumps, convey- or belts, hydraulic dredges, workboats and similar plant was well worth 1 million dollars. Test bores indicated that under leases, mining agreements, ownership of sand in place or similar agreements with various third party landowners, the partnership had under effective ownership reserves of at least 40 million tons of sand and gravel of which at least 60% (24 million tons) was commercially recoverable. The value was, they concluded and no one now disputes, of a value well in excess of 1 million dollars. After negotiations with the Murchinson interests of Dallas, Texas, the partners agreed to sell. To exploit existing good will, the purchaser was to be a new Delaware corporation, Witte Gravel Company, and the Taxpayer was to (and did) continue actively in the new Company’s management for several years.
[83]*83Before discussing the mechanics of the transfer, it simplifies things considerably to eliminate at the outset the controversy with which each of the parties has been so preoccupied below and here. The Government, on the one hand, insists that it must be fragmented into a series of separate isolated agreements with each paper bearing its own legal consequences without regard to any other. The Taxpayer, on the other hand, asserts that this was the sale of an entire going business so that it should be looked at as the sale of a partnership business.1 To this the Government rejoined in the words of Williams v. McGowan, 2 Cir., 1945, 152 F.2d 570, 572, that “upon the sale of a going business it is to be comminuted into its fragments,” so that the gain on each fragment is characterized as capital gain or ordinary income as the case might be.2 But as we recently pointed out, this Court has long rejected the aggregate theory and has followed the entity concept in determining the tax consequences in the sale of a going business. Sherlock v. Commissioner, 5 Cir., 1961, 294 F.2d 863.
For reasons we later discuss, this initial intramural contest is of no consequence. But we entertain no doubt that the Taxpayer is right that this was, and has to be, regarded as a single transaction in which a going business enterprise was being transferred to entirely new ownership.3 Consequently each paper, document, or conveyance, while important and enforceable in accordance with its own terms, is not to be looked upon as an isolated thing. All are to be treated as part and parcel of a continuous comprehensive transaction. But for the reasons we later point out, this is far from agreeing with Taxpayer that the cash payable ($578,550.53) and the production payment ($1,000,000) are to be aggregated as though the purchase price was declared to be $1,578,550.53.
To effectuate the sale, four separate documents were used: a bill of sale, a promissory note, a chattel mortgage, and a mineral (sand and gravel) conveyance. Only this mineral conveyance gives rise to the problem. The bill of sale, the promissory note, and the chattel mortgage were all complementary. They were concerned solely with the equipment being transferred. For this equipment the purchaser agreed to pay $578,550.-53.4 All were effective as of January 1, 1953.
Simultaneously Taxpayer and his partners executed the “conveyance and agreement” by which, “for a valuable consideration which Assignee has * * * paid * * *,” the Assignors “do hereby grant, bargain, sell, transfer, assign, set over and deliver” eight specified “instruments of lease and/or instruments of sale and conveyance” of sand and [84]*84gravel properties. The assignment was effective as of 7:00 o’clock a. m. January 1, 1953 and provided that “All * * * operating expenses incurred and accrued from and after such date and hour shall be borne and paid by Assignee and As-signee is hereby granted and shall be entitled to receive all income and proceeds * * * from the sale * * * of sand, gravel, * * * produced * * or disposed of * * * after such date and hour.” But immediately following these granting provisions, the conveyance provided that:5
“There is by Assignor excepted from this assignment and expressly reserved unto themselves and their respective heirs * * *, as a limited overriding royalty interest or production payment * * *, an undivided fractional percentage of all sand and/or gravel * * * produced * * * from the lands * * sufficient to yield * * * the full net sum of One Million Dollars ($1,-000,000) * *
The conveyance went on to provide the manner and rate per unit for the satisfaction of this production payment. It excluded positively any personal liability on the purchaser for the production payment and likewise excluded any lien or security of any kind save the sand and gravel for the satisfaction of the production payment.
Finally, it was provided that when Taxpayer had received the full $1,000,-000 from the reserved and retained in[85]*85terest in the sand and gravel, then all rights and titles reserved by the Taxpayer “* * * shall absolutely terminate and thereupon the fractional interest so reserved for the payment thereof shall vest absolutely in Assignee * * * free and clear of the exception and reservation * *
It is the proceeds of the production payment received in the tax year 1953 and 1954 that is in dispute. The Commissioner determined that this represented an economic interest retained in the property sold and consequently was taxable as ordinary income subject to percentage depletion. The District Court in the tax refund suit held, in substance, that this was a sale of an entire going business, and that the amounts received (or to be received in future years) from the production payment was merely an installment arrangement for a deferred payment of the purchase price. Therefore, the Court concluded, the whole $1,578,550.53 was subject to capital gain.
Much of the trial Court’s difficulty came, we think, from quibbling by counsel over whether the mineral (sand and gravel) conveyance was a lease with a royalty reserved or a sale. This is what has occupied the attention of the courts in cases from this and other Circuits in sand and gravel situations.6 Equally fallacious was the Government’s argument presumably advanced below, and certainly renewed here, that all Taxpayer had under the sand and gravel conveyances unto him was the equivalent of a mere “lease” interest. Consequently, the argument runs, the transfer could not give rise to capital gains since a lease cannot be the subject of a sale. Of course it can.7 And if sold, the proceeds for the interest sold are treated as capital gains.
This conceptual confusion is of more than academic interest. It was, we think, the thing which diverted all from facing up to the real problem. The problem was not whether there was a sale. Of course there was. The problem is what was sold?
On the face of these documents — undiminished in any respect by the brief testimony of Taxpayer and his regular counsel — two things were irrevocably sold:
(1) All of the equipment, plant and machinery without limitation of any kind; and
(2) (a) All of the sand/gravel owned by, or under lease to, Taxpayer except
(b) that which was reserved in the $1 million production payment.
The ownership of (2) (b) remained in Taxpayer. With respect to the sand/gravel out of which the production payment would be satisfied at the unit prices and times specified, the only change was that the cost of removal, processing and sale was now on the purchaser. The production payments — in lieu of the units of sand/gravel in kind— were to be free of any development costs. This illustrates why a production payment, or an oil payment, or a gas payment, or here a sand/gravel payment, is frequently referred to as a limited overriding royalty, just as it was described in the conveyance here involved.8 (See note 5, supra).
[86]*86 It is precisely here where the District Court, by the preoccupation of counsel9 with lease-versus-sale, was led into its basic error. Interwoven through the Court’s opinion were repeated statements, based on a consideration of the whole transaction, that it was not merely “the exploitation of sand and gravel deposits, but the sale of a going business” and “the transaction” was found “to be a sale of the sand and gravel in place, and not a lease.” This conclusion was, of course, sound had it stopped there. For it was, without a doubt, a sale.10 But the Court, apparently thinking that if it was not a lease — as it most assuredly was not — then concluded that since the transaction was a sale, it was necessarily the sale of all. Thus with its own italicized emphasis, the Court stated, “Unlike Albritton,11 the instrument here transfers the sand and gravel properties and sets over and delivers to the purchaser all of the interest of the [Taxpayers] therein. * * * Here, unlike all the other cases 11 there is no fee title remaining in [Taxpayers].” And, reiterating that the “ * * * parties intended to transfer everything that they owned in the partnership * * the Court concluded that Taxpayer “did not have a retained share or interest in the [87]*87property itself * * 201 F.Supp. 525 at 531.
But in unmistakable language that simply could not be made more positive, the conveyance — all of the documents read together — kept back, that is reserved and excepted from the transfer, so much of the minerals as was necessary to make up the $1 million payment. The transfer is something less than all, it is something less than the whole. As we many years ago said, “ * * * the real essence of the transaction was that the lease was sold and all the oil except that whose proceeds were to come to the selling taxpayer. * * * The thing sold for the cash consideration was the lease and all the oil except that so reserved.” Commissioner v. Fleming, 5 Cir., 1936, 82 F.2d 324 at 327. (Emphasis in the original.) See also Miller, Oil and Gas Federal Income Taxation (3rd ed. 1957), p. 182.
Of course, as we have many times held in analogous situations of an oil or gas payment, a production payment is an economic interest12 as that term has generally, come to be understood.13 As such, the proceeds are treated as ordinary income subject to depletion. Thomas v. Perkins, 1937, 301 U.S. 655, 57 S.Ct. 911, 81 L.Ed. 1324; Lee v. Commissioner, 5 Cir., 1942, 126 F.2d 825; Miller, Oil and Gas Federal Income Taxation, (3rd ed. 1957), p. 51; Fiske, Federal Taxation of Oil and Gas Transactions §§ 2.09, 14.07(a) (1958).
The transaction here was the precise application of the classic production payment device. Developed and approved in a succession of court decisions primarily in the oil and gas field, it has come to be a vital and important part of that business. Its advantages and benefits flow in many directions, to sellers and buyers, to financiers and investors, and to the revenue Commissioner whose apparent loss one day may be a gain the next.14 Thus, while the District Court [88]*88undertook to declare as a fact that the production payment was really nothing but a device for a deferred payment of the purchase price, there is no evidence to support this. Certainly this is true from the standpoint of the purchaser. For there is no indication that the purchaser would have been willing to pay the $1 million in tax-paid dollars. A moment’s reflection, in the light of pervasive income taxes, would readily demonstrate that the trade, from the purchaser’s standpoint, would necessarily have been different. It is not, however, one-sided. The purchaser reaps undoubted advantages. But it is those advantages which make purchase and acquisition in this way attractive. And this, in turn, may just as often benefit the seller. Of course it is of no concern to us whether the mechanism affords one, or the other, or both advantages or disadvantages. But with the tax, and hence economic-business consequences of this method being so well known and established, we ought to weigh carefully any importu-nities to read into this total transaction something which is not there. Certainty is so seldom obtainable. We ought not to make uncertainty. The production payment is certain in its application and tax consequences. Uncertainty in a transaction so precisely constructed as this one was not to be imported on anything as equivocal as that urged here — the misplaced hope of Taxpayer that the transaction was to be treated as a capital gain.
Indeed, the transaction was perfectly constructed for capital gains, and to achieve them all that Taxpayer had to do was to sell the production payment.15
The production payment was owned by Taxpayer. With great precision it was made positive that Taxpayer had to look solely to the minerals or their proceeds for the satisfaction of this payment. The requirements of Anderson v. Helver-ing, 1940, 310 U.S. 404, 60 S.Ct. 952, 84 L.Ed. 1277, were scrupulously observed. The proceeds, when and as received by Taxpayer, were the return of his own capital investment in a depletable mineral. Such proceeds constitute ordinary income subject to depletion. The Government was right and the judgment should have been in its favor.
Reversed and rendered.