Opinion of the Court
GIERKE, Judge:
A military judge sitting as a general court-martial convicted appellant, contrary to his pleas, of burglary, assault consummated by a battery, and violation of a general regulation by wrongfully possessing a hand grenade simulator in his military dormitory, in violation of Articles 129,128, and 92, Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 USC §§ 929, 928, and 892, respectively. The approved sentence provides for a dishonorable discharge, confinement for 8 years, total forfeitures, and reduction to the lowest enlisted grade. The Court of Military Review affirmed the findings and sentence. 34 MJ 768 (1992).
We granted review of the following issue: 1
WHETHER THE WARRANTLESS APPREHENSION OF APPELLANT IN HIS BARRACKS ROOM WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.
The charges against appellant arose from three reported assaults on female servicemembers who resided in military dormitories at Little Rock Air Force Base, Arkansas. All three complainants described their assailant as dark complected, approximately 6 feet tall with a tattoo on his top right forearm, and wearing blue jeans, tennis shoes, a black T-shirt with a large design, and a ski mask, and identifying himself as “Barry.” A security police patrol supervisor, Air Force Master Sergeant (MSgt) Meadows, decided to walk through the dormitories in an effort to locate the assailant. On a door of a dormitory room he noticed a note signed by Barry McCarthy. MSgt Meadows interviewed the occupant of the room, who described Barry McCarthy as being 6 feet tall, with dark hair and a dark complexion. The occupant told MSgt Meadows that Barry McCarthy lived in Room 305, dormitory 714.
MSgt Meadows went to that dormitory room and knocked on the door but received no answer. He contacted the Charge of Quarters (CQ) who described Barry McCarthy as being 6 feet tall, with dark hair, a dark complexion, and with a tattoo. The CQ had a key to the room and authority to enter the room. MSgt Meadows returned to the room with the CQ and pounded on the door but again received no answer. The CQ opened the door with a key, and MSgt Meadows observed two men sleeping on bunk beds. The person on the lower bunk had dark hair, dark complexion, and a tattoo and was wearing blue jeans, tennis shoes, and a black T-shirt with a large design. That person was appellant, Barry McCarthy. MSgt Meadows was joined by Air Force Investigator Allen, who had received the same description of the alleged assailant. Investigator Allen attempted to awaken appellant by shaking him and speaking to him. As appellant rolled over, Investigator Allen observed a ski mask tucked into appellant’s waistband. At that point Investigator Allen apprehended appellant and conducted a pat-down search, discovering a “ground burst simulator” in appellant’s pocket. Investigator Allen seized the ski mask and simulator.
Appellant’s military dormitory was governed by Little Rock Air Force Base Regulation 90-2, Housing Dormitory Standards and Policies (28 June 1988), which was attached to the record of trial as an appellate exhibit. That regulation provides, in pertinent part, that room assignments will be [400]*400made in accordance with Air Force regulations (para. 4); certain weapons are prohibited in dormitory rooms (para. 7b); cooking is limited to designed areas (para. 7c); a name plate is required to be posted at or near the door (para. 8); shoes are required to be polished and lined up under the bed (para. 10a(13); room inspections are authorized (para. 9); overnight guests are prohibited (para. 12f); and visits by individuals under age 18 are prohibited unless they are accompanied by a parent or guardian (para. 12e).
Appellant relies on Payton v. New York, 445 U.S. 573, 100 S.Ct. 1371, 63 L.Ed.2d 639 (1980), which held that, absent exigent circumstances, police may not enter a person’s home to make an arrest without a warrant or the person’s consent. Appellant argues that MSgt Meadows and Investigator Allen violated the Fourth Amendment by entering his dormitory room to apprehend him without a warrant or his consent. The Government argues that Payton is hot applicable to a military barracks or dormitory.
Appellant concedes that RCM 302(d)(2), Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, 1984, provides that a warrant is not required to make an apprehension except in private dwellings and that RCM 302(e)(2) specifically provides that living areas in military barracks are not private dwellings; but he argues that those rules violate the Fourth Amendment. Appellant points to Judge Perry’s statement in United States v. Roberts, 2 MJ 31, 36 (CMA 1976), that “military quarters have some aspects of a dwelling or a home and in those respects the military member may reasonably expect privacy protected by the Fourth Amendment.” Appellant relies on Judge Perry’s language to argue that since the barracks is like a home, Payton requires a warrant for both searches and apprehensions in the barracks.
Although the defense argued lack of probable cause before the court-martial, there is no serious contest before this Court regarding probable cause to apprehend appellant or the authority of MSgt Meadows and Investigator Allen to apprehend him. The issue before us is whether the Fourth Amendment, as interpreted by Payton, was violated by the warrantless apprehension of appellant in his dormitory room. We hold that it was not.
A warrant is not required for an apprehension in a public place. United States v. Watson, 423 U.S. 411, 96 S.Ct. 820, 46 L.Ed.2d 598 (1976). Prior to Payton v. New York, supra, the Supreme Court had left unsettled the question whether a peace officer may enter a suspect’s home to make an arrest without a warrant. United States v. Watson, 423 U.S. at 418 n. 6, 96 S.Ct. at 825 n. 6. In Payton, the Supreme Court held that a warrant is required to enter a suspect’s home, regardless whether the purpose of entry is to search or to arrest. While Watson holds that an arrest and a search outside the “home” are constitutionally different, Payton holds that the intrusion involved in an arrest and the intrusion involved in a search are indistinguishable when either occurs in the “home.”
Payton treats the differences between entering a home in order to search and entering a home in order to arrest as “merely ones of degree rather than kind.” 445 U.S. at 589, 100 S.Ct. at 1381. Justice Stevens spoke for the Court as follows: “In terms that apply equally to seizures of property and to seizures of persons, the Fourth Amendment has drawn a firm line at the entrance to the house. Absent exigent circumstances, that threshold may not reasonably be crossed without a warrant.” Id. at 590, 100 S.Ct. at 1382. Payton and Watson, considered together, stand for the proposition that a warrant is not required for an arrest, unless the arrest occurs in the suspect’s home.
This Court has held that Payton is applicable to the off-post residence of a soldier in Germany but has not yet decided “whether, or to what extent, Payton ... applies to rooms in a military barracks or dormitory or to various other types of on-post military housing.” United States v. Mitchell, 12 MJ 265, 269 n. 1 (CMA 1982). [401]*401If Payton
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Opinion of the Court
GIERKE, Judge:
A military judge sitting as a general court-martial convicted appellant, contrary to his pleas, of burglary, assault consummated by a battery, and violation of a general regulation by wrongfully possessing a hand grenade simulator in his military dormitory, in violation of Articles 129,128, and 92, Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 USC §§ 929, 928, and 892, respectively. The approved sentence provides for a dishonorable discharge, confinement for 8 years, total forfeitures, and reduction to the lowest enlisted grade. The Court of Military Review affirmed the findings and sentence. 34 MJ 768 (1992).
We granted review of the following issue: 1
WHETHER THE WARRANTLESS APPREHENSION OF APPELLANT IN HIS BARRACKS ROOM WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.
The charges against appellant arose from three reported assaults on female servicemembers who resided in military dormitories at Little Rock Air Force Base, Arkansas. All three complainants described their assailant as dark complected, approximately 6 feet tall with a tattoo on his top right forearm, and wearing blue jeans, tennis shoes, a black T-shirt with a large design, and a ski mask, and identifying himself as “Barry.” A security police patrol supervisor, Air Force Master Sergeant (MSgt) Meadows, decided to walk through the dormitories in an effort to locate the assailant. On a door of a dormitory room he noticed a note signed by Barry McCarthy. MSgt Meadows interviewed the occupant of the room, who described Barry McCarthy as being 6 feet tall, with dark hair and a dark complexion. The occupant told MSgt Meadows that Barry McCarthy lived in Room 305, dormitory 714.
MSgt Meadows went to that dormitory room and knocked on the door but received no answer. He contacted the Charge of Quarters (CQ) who described Barry McCarthy as being 6 feet tall, with dark hair, a dark complexion, and with a tattoo. The CQ had a key to the room and authority to enter the room. MSgt Meadows returned to the room with the CQ and pounded on the door but again received no answer. The CQ opened the door with a key, and MSgt Meadows observed two men sleeping on bunk beds. The person on the lower bunk had dark hair, dark complexion, and a tattoo and was wearing blue jeans, tennis shoes, and a black T-shirt with a large design. That person was appellant, Barry McCarthy. MSgt Meadows was joined by Air Force Investigator Allen, who had received the same description of the alleged assailant. Investigator Allen attempted to awaken appellant by shaking him and speaking to him. As appellant rolled over, Investigator Allen observed a ski mask tucked into appellant’s waistband. At that point Investigator Allen apprehended appellant and conducted a pat-down search, discovering a “ground burst simulator” in appellant’s pocket. Investigator Allen seized the ski mask and simulator.
Appellant’s military dormitory was governed by Little Rock Air Force Base Regulation 90-2, Housing Dormitory Standards and Policies (28 June 1988), which was attached to the record of trial as an appellate exhibit. That regulation provides, in pertinent part, that room assignments will be [400]*400made in accordance with Air Force regulations (para. 4); certain weapons are prohibited in dormitory rooms (para. 7b); cooking is limited to designed areas (para. 7c); a name plate is required to be posted at or near the door (para. 8); shoes are required to be polished and lined up under the bed (para. 10a(13); room inspections are authorized (para. 9); overnight guests are prohibited (para. 12f); and visits by individuals under age 18 are prohibited unless they are accompanied by a parent or guardian (para. 12e).
Appellant relies on Payton v. New York, 445 U.S. 573, 100 S.Ct. 1371, 63 L.Ed.2d 639 (1980), which held that, absent exigent circumstances, police may not enter a person’s home to make an arrest without a warrant or the person’s consent. Appellant argues that MSgt Meadows and Investigator Allen violated the Fourth Amendment by entering his dormitory room to apprehend him without a warrant or his consent. The Government argues that Payton is hot applicable to a military barracks or dormitory.
Appellant concedes that RCM 302(d)(2), Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, 1984, provides that a warrant is not required to make an apprehension except in private dwellings and that RCM 302(e)(2) specifically provides that living areas in military barracks are not private dwellings; but he argues that those rules violate the Fourth Amendment. Appellant points to Judge Perry’s statement in United States v. Roberts, 2 MJ 31, 36 (CMA 1976), that “military quarters have some aspects of a dwelling or a home and in those respects the military member may reasonably expect privacy protected by the Fourth Amendment.” Appellant relies on Judge Perry’s language to argue that since the barracks is like a home, Payton requires a warrant for both searches and apprehensions in the barracks.
Although the defense argued lack of probable cause before the court-martial, there is no serious contest before this Court regarding probable cause to apprehend appellant or the authority of MSgt Meadows and Investigator Allen to apprehend him. The issue before us is whether the Fourth Amendment, as interpreted by Payton, was violated by the warrantless apprehension of appellant in his dormitory room. We hold that it was not.
A warrant is not required for an apprehension in a public place. United States v. Watson, 423 U.S. 411, 96 S.Ct. 820, 46 L.Ed.2d 598 (1976). Prior to Payton v. New York, supra, the Supreme Court had left unsettled the question whether a peace officer may enter a suspect’s home to make an arrest without a warrant. United States v. Watson, 423 U.S. at 418 n. 6, 96 S.Ct. at 825 n. 6. In Payton, the Supreme Court held that a warrant is required to enter a suspect’s home, regardless whether the purpose of entry is to search or to arrest. While Watson holds that an arrest and a search outside the “home” are constitutionally different, Payton holds that the intrusion involved in an arrest and the intrusion involved in a search are indistinguishable when either occurs in the “home.”
Payton treats the differences between entering a home in order to search and entering a home in order to arrest as “merely ones of degree rather than kind.” 445 U.S. at 589, 100 S.Ct. at 1381. Justice Stevens spoke for the Court as follows: “In terms that apply equally to seizures of property and to seizures of persons, the Fourth Amendment has drawn a firm line at the entrance to the house. Absent exigent circumstances, that threshold may not reasonably be crossed without a warrant.” Id. at 590, 100 S.Ct. at 1382. Payton and Watson, considered together, stand for the proposition that a warrant is not required for an arrest, unless the arrest occurs in the suspect’s home.
This Court has held that Payton is applicable to the off-post residence of a soldier in Germany but has not yet decided “whether, or to what extent, Payton ... applies to rooms in a military barracks or dormitory or to various other types of on-post military housing.” United States v. Mitchell, 12 MJ 265, 269 n. 1 (CMA 1982). [401]*401If Payton applies to rooms in a military barracks, then command authorization was required to apprehend appellant, absent exigent circumstances. RCM 302(d)(2).
The places where persons sleep and keep personal effects cover a wide spectrum of constitutional protection. At one end are those recognized as the “homes” contemplated by Payton (or “houses” in the language of the Fourth Amendment). See Stoner v. California, 376 U.S. 483, 84 S.Ct. 889, 11 L.Ed.2d 856 (1964) (hotel room); McDonald v. United States, 335 U.S. 451, 69 S.Ct. 191, 93 L.Ed. 153 (1948) (rooming house); Serpas v. Schmidt, 827 F.2d 23 (7th Cir.1987) (racetrack back-stretchers’ dormitories), cert. denied, 485 U.S. 904, 108 S.Ct. 1075, 99 L.Ed.2d 234 (1988). An institutional right to inspect does not necessarily remove constitutional protection. See Piazzola v. Watkins, 442 F.2d 284 (5th Cir.1971), and Smyth v. Lubbers, 398 F.Supp. 777 (W.D.Mich.1975) (Fourth Amendment protects college dormitory room notwithstanding college’s right to inspect room). Some residences receive reduced protection because of their mobile nature. See California v. Carney, 471 U.S. 386, 105 S.Ct. 2066, 85 L.Ed.2d 406 (1985) (mobile home parked in public area); United States v. Hill, 855 F.2d 664 (10th Cir.1988) (houseboat); United States v. Whitehead, 849 F.2d 849 (4th Cir.1988) (passenger-train sleeping compartment), cert. denied, 488 U.S. 983, 109 S.Ct. 534, 102 L.Ed.2d 566 (1988). A private but common area confers no legitimate expectation of privacy. See United States v. Barrios-Moriera, 872 F.2d 12 (2d Cir.) (no expectation of privacy in common hallway of apartment complex even though front door was locked), cert. denied, 493 U.S. 953, 110 S.Ct. 364, 107 L.Ed.2d 350 (1989). Communal living spaces confer no reasonable expectation of privacy. See People v. Nalbandian, 188 A.D.2d 328, 590 N.Y.S.2d 885 (1992) (no expectation of privacy for items on bed in communal sleeping area in men’s shelter). Finally, a squatter living in a natural cave on federal land has no reasonable expectation of privacy. United States v. Ruckman, 806 F.2d 1471 (10th Cir.1986).
Constitutional protections sometimes take on a different application in a military context. As explained by the Supreme Court in Parker v. Levy, 417 U.S. 733, 758, 94 S.Ct. 2547, 2562, 41 L.Ed.2d 439 (1974):
[T]he different character of the military community and of the military mission requires a different application of those protections. The fundamental necessity for obedience, and the consequent necessity for imposition of discipline, may render permissible within the military that which would be constitutionally impermissible outside of it.
The Supreme Court’s contextual analysis of the First Amendment in Parker v. Levy, supra, was applied to the Fourth Amendment by the District of Columbia Circuit in Committee for GI Rights v. Callaway, 518 F.2d 466, 477 (1975), which observed, “The ‘expectation of privacy’ ... is different in the military than it is in civilian life____ The soldier cannot reasonably expect the Army barracks to be a sanctuary like his civilian home.” See also People v. Nalbandian, 188 A.D.2d at 330, 590 N.Y.S.2d at 887 (“Defendant’s quarters here partook more of an Army barracks or a gymnasium locker room than a private hotel suite.-...”). Cf. Kauffman v. Secretary of the Air Force, 415 F.2d 991, 997 n. 6 (D.C.Cir.1969) (“[W]hat might be an illegal search by a police officer may be a routine inspection in the services.”). The Fourth Amendment requirement that a warrant be supported by oath or affirmation does not apply to searches and seizures by military authorities. United States v. Stuckey, 10 MJ 347, 361-63 (CMA 1981). We conclude, therefore, that the Fourth Amendment analysis of appellant’s apprehension must be in the context of a military setting.
The underlying issue in a case involving an asserted violation of the Fourth Amendment is whether the occupant of the premises had “a legitimate [that is, a reasonable] expectation of privacy in the invaded place.” Rakas v. Illinois, 439 U.S. [402]*402128, 143, 99 S.Ct. 421, 58 L.Ed.2d 387 (1978). Whether a soldier’s expectation of privacy is “reasonable” depends, at least in part, on whether society recognizes it as reasonable. United States v. Britton, 33 MJ 238, 239 (CMA 1991), citing Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735, 740-41, 99 S.Ct. 2577, 2580-81, 61 L.Ed.2d 220 (1979).
RCM 302(e)(2) provides: “ ‘Private dwelling’ does not include the following, whether or not subdivided into individual units: living areas in military barracks, vessels, aircraft, vehicles, tents, bunkers, field encampments, and similar places.” Apart from its significance as a rule of procedure, this rule is a reflection of the limits which military society, speaking through its Commander-in-Chief, is willing to recognize as reasonable for soldiers living in military barracks. See Committee for GI Rights v. Callaway, supra. Although Judge Perry’s language in Roberts, which did not command a majority,2 suggests that a military barracks is a “home” within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment, this Court has recognized that a military member’s reasonable expectation of privacy in the barracks is limited by the need for military discipline and readiness. See United States v. Middleton, 10 MJ 123, 128 (CMA 1981) (no reasonable expectation of privacy from inspections). The question in this case involves the degree to which appellant’s reasonable expectation of privacy is less than that of someone living in a private home.
This Court has observed, “Since ‘the military is, by necessity, a specialized society separate from civilian society,’ ... it is foreseeable that reasonable expectations of privacy within the military society will differ from those in the civilian society.” United States v. Middleton, 10 MJ at 127. Likewise, in United States v. Thatcher, 28 MJ 20, 22 (CMA 1989), Chief Judge Everett pointed out:
[I]t is only unreasonable searches and seizure against which a servicemember— or a civilian—is protected by the Fourth Amendment. What is unreasonable depends substantially on the circumstances of the intrusion; and this Court has recognized that, in some instances, an intrusion that might be unreasonable in a civilian context not only is reasonable but is necessary in a military context.
The Supreme Court has recognized that what is “reasonable” under the Fourth Amendment may be affected by the need for order and discipline, even in nonmilitary situations. See New Jersey v. T.L.O., 469 U.S. 325, 341-42, 105 S.Ct. 733, 742-43, 83 L.Ed.2d 720 (1985) (Warrantless search of schoolgirl’s purse by school official, based on reasonable suspicion rather than probable cause, meets Fourth Amendment requirement that searches and seizures be “reasonable.”). See also Isiah B. v. State, 500 N.W.2d 637 (Wis.1993) (students have no reasonable expectation of privacy in lockers where school retains right to conduct random locker searches and notice of the locker search policy is given to students).
In United States v. Lewis, 11 MJ 188 (CMA 1981), this Court addressed the right and duty of military authorities to enter a barracks room for a purpose akin to that in appellant’s case, i.e., to determine if the occupant is in the room. Writing for the majority, Chief Judge Everett observed:
[W]e can only conclude that in the military environment a servicemember who has the responsibility of locating another person to advise him of a military duty which he must perform is entitled to use reasonable means to locate that person____
11 MJ at 191.
Like the noncommissioned officer in Lewis, MSgt Meadows had a duty to locate the person who had assaulted three female [403]*403soldiers. MSgt Meadows was not a trespasser. He entered the room with the approval and assistance of the CQ, the commander’s authorized representative during non-duty hours.
There are substantial differences between this appellant’s “home” and the “home” considered by the Supreme Court in Payton. Appellant was assigned his room; he did not choose it. Appellant was assigned his roommate; he did not choose him. Appellant could not cook in his room, have overnight guests, or have unaccompanied underage guests. Appellant knew that he was subject to inspection to a degree not contemplated in private homes. Cf. United States v. Baker, 30 MJ 262, 267 n. 2 (CMA 1990) (“Prior notice is a factor relevant to the reasonableness of a search and tends to reduce the intrusion on privacy occasioned by the search.”). The CQ had a key to the room and was authorized to enter the room on official business.
Of course, the physical characteristics of the barracks room are not in themselves determinative. They undoubtedly affect the occupant’s subjective expectation of privacy, leaving the objective, i.e., “reasonable,” expectation of privacy to be otherwise determined.
The critical difference, for Fourth Amendment purposes, between appellant’s dormitory room and a college dormitory or other dwelling place is the fact that appellant’s is a military dormitory. Even in a non-military setting such as a school, the Supreme Court has recognized that the need for order and discipline may affect what is “reasonable” under the Fourth Amendment. See New Jersey v. T.L.O, supra. The need for military discipline parallels and in many respects exceeds the need for school discipline. Military authorities have a relationship with and responsibility for persons and property unlike anything in civilian life. A military commander is not only responsible for the barracks building and its contents; he is also responsible for the welfare of its occupants. Barracks occupants have no way to avoid noisy, abusive, violent, or unclean occupants. Eviction of undesirable “tenants” is not an option. What happens in a barracks affects the unit. What is tolerated in a barracks sets the level of discipline in the unit. “In the barracks, the impact that one servicemember can have on other persons living or working there demands that a commander have authority to regulate behavior in ways not ordinarily acceptable in the civilian sphere.” Cooke, United States v. Ezell: Is the Commander a Magistrate? Maybe, The Army Lawyer 9, 19 n. 46 (Dept. of the Army Pamphlet 27-50-80 August 1979).
While the physical trappings of a modern barracks or military dormitory may be more comfortable and private than an open bay barracks, the need for discipline and readiness has not changed. See United States v. Middleton, supra. A soldier may lawfully be ordered to move from private family quarters into the barracks, for reasons related to military discipline or military readiness. See, e.g., United States v. Button, 31 MJ 897 (AFCMR 1990) (order to stay away from on-base family quarters held lawful), aff'd on other grounds, 34 MJ 139 (CMA 1992). While a civilian may retreat into the home and refuse the entreaties of the police to come out, a soldier may lawfully be ordered to come out of his or her quarters. See United States v. Pettersen, 17 MJ 69 (CMA 1983) (order to leave off-base residence and report for duty). In short, the threshold of a barracks/dormitory room does not provide the same sanctuary as the threshold of a private home. See Committee for GI Rights v. Calloway, supra.
We need not determine the outer limits of appellant’s “reasonable” expectation of privacy. Suffice it to say that he could not reasonably expect to avoid apprehension in this case by retreating to his room.
We hold that appellant’s reasonable expectation of privacy was not infringed by entering his dormitory room. Once the investigators were lawfully in the room, appellant’s physical appearance and his possession of the ski mask provided probable cause for his apprehension, upon [404]*404which the admissibility of the ski mask and “ground burst simulator” depended. Accordingly, we hold that the military judge did not err in admitting the ski mask and simulator in evidence.
The decision of the United States Army Court of Military Review is affirmed.
Judges COX and CRAWFORD concur.