United States v. Clint Schram

128 F.4th 922
CourtCourt of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit
DecidedFebruary 12, 2025
Docket23-3504
StatusPublished

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United States v. Clint Schram, 128 F.4th 922 (8th Cir. 2025).

Opinion

United States Court of Appeals For the Eighth Circuit ___________________________

No. 23-3504 ___________________________

United States of America

lllllllllllllllllllllPlaintiff - Appellee

v.

Clint Robert Schram

lllllllllllllllllllllDefendant - Appellant ____________

Appeal from United States District Court for the Western District of Missouri - St. Joseph ____________

Submitted: January 14, 2025 Filed: February 12, 2025 ____________

Before LOKEN, ARNOLD, and KELLY, Circuit Judges. ____________

ARNOLD, Circuit Judge.

After a jury convicted Clint Schram of multiple offenses stemming from his operation of child pornography websites, the district court1 sentenced him to a life term and four concurrent thirty-year terms of imprisonment. He contends that the evidence was insufficient to support his convictions, that the district court

1 The Honorable Stephen R. Bough, United States District Judge for the Western District of Missouri. improperly admitted multiple images of child pornography into evidence, and that the district court erred in calculating his guidelines sentencing range and imposing an overlong sentence. Because we discern no reversible error, we affirm.

In 2020, a grand jury returned an indictment, which, in relevant part, charged Schram with four counts of advertising child pornography and one count of engaging in a child exploitation enterprise. Advertisement is shorthand for knowingly making, printing, publishing, or causing to be made, printed, or published a “notice or advertisement seeking or offering” to “receive, exchange, buy, produce, display, distribute, or reproduce, any visual depiction, if the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and such visual depiction is of such conduct.” 18 U.S.C. § 2251(d)(1). As charged, a child exploitation enterprise, in turn, consists of a series of advertising offenses committed “in concert with three or more other persons” that constitute “three or more separate incidents” and involve “more than one victim.” Id. § 2252A(g)(2).

Schram stood trial, and the government presented evidence that he administered four sites where he and other users shared links to what appeared to be child pornography. The jury then found Schram guilty on the five counts at issue.

Schram insists that the evidence was insufficient to convict him, but we are unconvinced. The gap in the evidence, according to Schram, was proof that he advertised depictions of real children engaged in sexually explicit conduct. The parties do not dispute that advertising depictions of real children, rather than computer-generated facsimiles, was essential to Schram’s convictions. But we agree with the government that the record was against Schram.

It is enough to uphold the convictions if any reasonable jury could have found Schram guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. United States v. Koch, 625 F.3d

-2- 470, 478 (8th Cir. 2010). That is a matter we review de novo, id., notwithstanding some suggestion that Schram failed to dispute the sufficiency of the evidence in the district court. If the suggestion were true, we would review only for plain error, see United States v. Clarke, 564 F.3d 949, 954 (8th Cir. 2009), but there is no need to pursue the point since the evidence was sufficient regardless of how we look at it.

That is so because the jury saw excerpts from pornographic content Schram advertised on his websites, all of which featured children. It could, therefore, inspect those excerpts and decide for itself that the children were real. We have said as much before, and so have our sister circuits. Koch, 625 F.3d at 479; see, e.g., United States v. Pawlak, 935 F.3d 337, 350 (5th Cir. 2019); United States v. Sims, 428 F.3d 945, 957 (10th Cir. 2005); cf. also United States v. Vig, 167 F.3d 443, 449 (8th Cir. 1999).

With improvements in image-generation technology, we may someday have to revisit our precedent, cf. Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coal., 535 U.S. 234, 259 (2002) (Thomas, J., concurring in the judgment), but Schram has not convinced us that today is that day. We will suppose, for present purposes, that we could disregard our court’s prior decisions if changes in technology undermined their assumption that jurors can reliably distinguish images of real children from images of virtual children. But see United States v. Rodriguez-Pacheco, 475 F.3d 434, 442 (1st Cir. 2007). The trouble for Schram is that the record here, far from undermining that assumption, is entirely consistent with it.

Until this appeal, that was obvious because the record was devoid of evidence about the distinguishability of real and virtual children. And it is only slightly less obvious now, after Schram pointed us to a handful of webpages about computer image generation. Those webpages, which we assume we can consider, are less than illuminating. They reveal, at most, that computer programs could generate images of virtual people at the time of Schram’s offense and that their

-3- realistic output was becoming ever more realistic. Few could dispute that, but it is beside the point. What matters is how accurate jurors are in distinguishing realistic images of virtual children from images of real children. See id. at 443 n.8. And on that question, the webpages are silent.

Without more, we are not prepared to depart from our court’s precedent allowing juries to decide whether images depict real children based on the images themselves. At the foundation of that precedent is the principle that the government need not produce evidence to negate a speculative assertion that a child in an image is virtual. Vig, 167 F.3d at 450. That principle is as true today as it was when we announced it—three years after Congress found that one could make images of virtual children almost “indistinguishable to the unsuspecting viewer” from images of actual children. Child Pornography Prevention Act, Pub. L. No. 104-208, § 121, 110 Stat. 3009, 3009-26 (1996). And it requires us to reject Schram’s challenge to the sufficiency of the evidence. On the nearly empty record here, Schram’s concern that images shown to the jury depicted virtual children is just speculation unsupported by any concrete facts.

Though our conclusion does not depend on it, we note as well that research on detecting images of virtual children leaves considerable doubt about the risk that the jury mistook an image of a virtual child for an image of a real child here. Even years after Schram’s offenses, less than one percent of child sexual abuse material was both computer generated and photorealistic. At least that was the percentage reported by the Stanford Internet Observatory and the nonprofit Thorn based on files Thorn sampled from “communities dedicated to child sexual abuse.” David Thiel et al., Generative ML and CSAM: Implications and Mitigations, at 2 (2023). And of that percentage, only about two-thirds of files were “highly photorealistic,” though even those could still be “visually distinguished as being generated.” Id. at 3.

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