OPINION
COATS, Chief Judge.
James P. Rivers faces charges of theft of unemployment benefits and making false statements to obtain unemployment benefits. Rivers moved to suppress the statements he made to a Division of Employment Security investigator at an interview. Superior Court Judge Michael L. Wolverton granted Riv~ ers's suppression motion. Judge Wolverton found that Rivers was legally compelled by state statute and Division of Employment Security policy to submit to an interview by an Employment Security Division investigator. Judge Wolverton therefore suppressed all the statements Rivers made in the interview. The State filed a petition for review of this ruling. We granted review. We reverse Judge Wolverton's ruling. We conclude that at the time Rivers made the statements during the interview, he was not in custody, did not exercise his privilege against self-inerimi-nation, and was not coerced into giving up his right to remain silent.
Factual and procedural background
An investigator with the Employment Security Division of the Department of Labor, Harold G. Marley, suspected Rivers of fraudulently obtaining unemployment insurance benefits. Based on his review of Rivers's records, Marley concluded that Rivers had received excess benefits of approximately $4718. Marley telephoned Rivers and set up an interview with him.
At the beginning of the interview, Marley put Rivers under oath. Marley never informed Rivers that he was free to leave, but he did inform Rivers that "[Ilf at any time during the procedure, ... you want to take a break, stop, ... you want to review a question, go back, just say so." During the interview Rivers made incriminating statements.
A grand jury indicted Rivers on one count of second-degree theft by deception.1 The State later charged Rivers by supplemental information with multiple counts of false statements to secure benefits.2
Rivers moved to suppress the incriminating statements he made during the interview with Marley. Judge Wolverton conducted an evidentiary hearing on Rivers's motion to suppress. At the hearing, Marley testified that he did not remember the specific conversation he had with Rivers when he set up the interview. But he testified that his practice was to encourage claimants to participate in an interview. He would sometimes inform claimants that their failure to provide information might result in their disqualification for future benefits.
Rivers also introduced an Unemployment Insurance Claimant handbook. The handbook details a claimant's responsibilities and is sent to everyone who opens a new unemployment insurance account. The handbook emphasized that a claimant had to comply with the requirements outlined in the handbook in order to be eligible for unemployment insurance benefits. The handbook explained that a claim is subject to a quality control audit where information that the claimant provided would be checked for aceu-racy. The handbook cautioned that the "examinations are thorough and may involve an in-person interview with you and other interested parties."
Based on these circumstances, Rivers argued that his statements were involuntary. Rivers argued that he faced a coereive atmosphere where he was required by statute to participate in the interview and had to justify the information supporting his claim for unemployment insurance or face the loss of his benefits.
Rivers claimed that AS 28.20.070, as supplemented by the information in the handbook, forced him to attend the interview and [1001]*1001provide information. If he did not, he would lose his unemployment benefits. He argued that this amounted to an "explicit" economic threat and that he was therefore coerced into making the incriminating statements at the interview, and that this coercion violated his right against self-inerimination. In addition, Rivers argued that the interview constituted custodial interrogation that required the investigator to administer a Miranda warning before interviewing him. Based on these contentions, Rivers argued that either immunity should have attached under AS 28.20.070 or his statements should have been suppressed.
Judge Wolverton found that Rivers had not been subjected to custodial interrogation, and therefore the state was not required to give him a Mirando warning. But he found that Rivers was legally compelled by the statute and the department policy as set out in the handbook to appear and speak with the investigator at the Division of Employment Security. Judge Wolverton concluded that because Rivers's statements were coerced, he was required to suppress Rivers's statements. He also noted that Marley had not warned Rivers of his right to terminate the interview at any time. Judge Wol-verton concluded that this omission, coupled with the coercion, made Rivers's statements involuntary. He therefore suppressed the statements Rivers made during the interview. The State filed a petition for review of this decision. We granted review.
Under AS 28.20.070 Rivers is required to assert his right against self- incrimination
Alaska Statute 28.20.070 provides that a person who has claimed unemployment benefits is not excused from attending and testify, ing at an interview on the ground that he might incriminate himself. The statute goes on to provide that "(aln individual may not be prosecuted or subjected to a penalty [if he] is compelled, after having claimed the privilege against self-incrimination, to testify or produce evidence." The statute, on its face, requires the individual to claim the privilege against self-incrimination in order to obtain immunity from prosecution.
We have found several cases interpreting statutes that provide immunity from prosecution when a person is required to produce evidence that otherwise might result in criminal charges. The cases discuss two categories of immunity statutes. In the first category, are statutes that grant immunity to a person who is compelled to testify regardless of whether the person asserts the privilege against self-incrimination.3 The second category of statutes requires a person to assert his privilege against self-incrimination before testifying in order to obtain immunity from prosecution.4 Alaska Statute 28.20.070 clearly falls within this latter category.
[1002]*1002It is uncontested that Rivers did not assert his privilege against self-incrimination at any time during his interview with Investigator Marley. The statute therefore offered him no protection.
Why we conclude that Judge Wolverton erred in finding that Rivers's statements were involuntary
Our discussion of this issue begins with the United States Supreme Court's decision in Minnesota v. Murphy.5 Murphy was given a suspended sentence on a sex-related charge and was placed on probation. The conditions of his probation required him to participate in a treatment program for sex offenders, report to his probation officer as directed, and be truthful with the probation officer "in all matters." 6 Murphy was told that a violation of any of these conditions could result in the revocation of his probation.
A counselor at Murphy's sex offender treatment center informed Murphy's probation officer that Murphy had admitted, during the course of treatment, that he had committed a rape and murder approximately seven years previously.
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OPINION
COATS, Chief Judge.
James P. Rivers faces charges of theft of unemployment benefits and making false statements to obtain unemployment benefits. Rivers moved to suppress the statements he made to a Division of Employment Security investigator at an interview. Superior Court Judge Michael L. Wolverton granted Riv~ ers's suppression motion. Judge Wolverton found that Rivers was legally compelled by state statute and Division of Employment Security policy to submit to an interview by an Employment Security Division investigator. Judge Wolverton therefore suppressed all the statements Rivers made in the interview. The State filed a petition for review of this ruling. We granted review. We reverse Judge Wolverton's ruling. We conclude that at the time Rivers made the statements during the interview, he was not in custody, did not exercise his privilege against self-inerimi-nation, and was not coerced into giving up his right to remain silent.
Factual and procedural background
An investigator with the Employment Security Division of the Department of Labor, Harold G. Marley, suspected Rivers of fraudulently obtaining unemployment insurance benefits. Based on his review of Rivers's records, Marley concluded that Rivers had received excess benefits of approximately $4718. Marley telephoned Rivers and set up an interview with him.
At the beginning of the interview, Marley put Rivers under oath. Marley never informed Rivers that he was free to leave, but he did inform Rivers that "[Ilf at any time during the procedure, ... you want to take a break, stop, ... you want to review a question, go back, just say so." During the interview Rivers made incriminating statements.
A grand jury indicted Rivers on one count of second-degree theft by deception.1 The State later charged Rivers by supplemental information with multiple counts of false statements to secure benefits.2
Rivers moved to suppress the incriminating statements he made during the interview with Marley. Judge Wolverton conducted an evidentiary hearing on Rivers's motion to suppress. At the hearing, Marley testified that he did not remember the specific conversation he had with Rivers when he set up the interview. But he testified that his practice was to encourage claimants to participate in an interview. He would sometimes inform claimants that their failure to provide information might result in their disqualification for future benefits.
Rivers also introduced an Unemployment Insurance Claimant handbook. The handbook details a claimant's responsibilities and is sent to everyone who opens a new unemployment insurance account. The handbook emphasized that a claimant had to comply with the requirements outlined in the handbook in order to be eligible for unemployment insurance benefits. The handbook explained that a claim is subject to a quality control audit where information that the claimant provided would be checked for aceu-racy. The handbook cautioned that the "examinations are thorough and may involve an in-person interview with you and other interested parties."
Based on these circumstances, Rivers argued that his statements were involuntary. Rivers argued that he faced a coereive atmosphere where he was required by statute to participate in the interview and had to justify the information supporting his claim for unemployment insurance or face the loss of his benefits.
Rivers claimed that AS 28.20.070, as supplemented by the information in the handbook, forced him to attend the interview and [1001]*1001provide information. If he did not, he would lose his unemployment benefits. He argued that this amounted to an "explicit" economic threat and that he was therefore coerced into making the incriminating statements at the interview, and that this coercion violated his right against self-inerimination. In addition, Rivers argued that the interview constituted custodial interrogation that required the investigator to administer a Miranda warning before interviewing him. Based on these contentions, Rivers argued that either immunity should have attached under AS 28.20.070 or his statements should have been suppressed.
Judge Wolverton found that Rivers had not been subjected to custodial interrogation, and therefore the state was not required to give him a Mirando warning. But he found that Rivers was legally compelled by the statute and the department policy as set out in the handbook to appear and speak with the investigator at the Division of Employment Security. Judge Wolverton concluded that because Rivers's statements were coerced, he was required to suppress Rivers's statements. He also noted that Marley had not warned Rivers of his right to terminate the interview at any time. Judge Wol-verton concluded that this omission, coupled with the coercion, made Rivers's statements involuntary. He therefore suppressed the statements Rivers made during the interview. The State filed a petition for review of this decision. We granted review.
Under AS 28.20.070 Rivers is required to assert his right against self- incrimination
Alaska Statute 28.20.070 provides that a person who has claimed unemployment benefits is not excused from attending and testify, ing at an interview on the ground that he might incriminate himself. The statute goes on to provide that "(aln individual may not be prosecuted or subjected to a penalty [if he] is compelled, after having claimed the privilege against self-incrimination, to testify or produce evidence." The statute, on its face, requires the individual to claim the privilege against self-incrimination in order to obtain immunity from prosecution.
We have found several cases interpreting statutes that provide immunity from prosecution when a person is required to produce evidence that otherwise might result in criminal charges. The cases discuss two categories of immunity statutes. In the first category, are statutes that grant immunity to a person who is compelled to testify regardless of whether the person asserts the privilege against self-incrimination.3 The second category of statutes requires a person to assert his privilege against self-incrimination before testifying in order to obtain immunity from prosecution.4 Alaska Statute 28.20.070 clearly falls within this latter category.
[1002]*1002It is uncontested that Rivers did not assert his privilege against self-incrimination at any time during his interview with Investigator Marley. The statute therefore offered him no protection.
Why we conclude that Judge Wolverton erred in finding that Rivers's statements were involuntary
Our discussion of this issue begins with the United States Supreme Court's decision in Minnesota v. Murphy.5 Murphy was given a suspended sentence on a sex-related charge and was placed on probation. The conditions of his probation required him to participate in a treatment program for sex offenders, report to his probation officer as directed, and be truthful with the probation officer "in all matters." 6 Murphy was told that a violation of any of these conditions could result in the revocation of his probation.
A counselor at Murphy's sex offender treatment center informed Murphy's probation officer that Murphy had admitted, during the course of treatment, that he had committed a rape and murder approximately seven years previously. The probation officer notified the police and set up a meeting with Murphy. During the meeting, Murphy admitted to the rape and murder. At the conclusion of the meeting, the probation officer told Murphy she had a duty to relay the incriminating information to the police and encouraged him to turn himself in. But she permitted Murphy to leave her office.
When Murphy was later indicted for murder, he moved to suppress the statements he made to his probation officer on the ground that his statements were obtained in violation of his privilege against self-incrimination under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution.7 The Minnesota Supreme Court ordered Murphy's statements suppressed under reasoning similar to that advanced by Judge Wolverton in Rivers's case. The Minnesota Supreme Court concluded that Murphy had not been in custody, and generally recognized the principle that a person must invoke his right to remain silent in order to exercise it. But the court found that Murphy's statements had been obtained in violation of his right against self-inerimination because he was compelled to attend the meeting with his probation officer and was under a court order to respond truthfully to the probation officer's questions. The Minnesota Supreme Court pointed out that the probation officer had substantial reasons to believe that Murphy's answers would be incriminating. The court concluded that the probation officer should have warned Murphy of his privilege against self-incrimination.8
The United States Supreme Court reversed. The Court first held that the fact that Murphy was required to appear and answer questions truthfully "did not in itself convert Murphy's otherwise voluntary statements into compelled ones."9 The Court pointed out that Murphy stood in no different a position than a witness who was called to testify at trial or before a grand jury. The witness would be compelled to appear and testify truthfully unless he validly invoked the privilege against self-inerimination. Recognizing the general rule, the Court stated: "[T)hus it is that a witness confronted with questions that the government should reasonably expect to elicit incriminating evidence ordinarily must assert the privilege rather than answer if he desires not to incriminate himself."10
The Court then discussed the two exceptions to the general rule that a person must invoke the right against self-incrimination. The first exception applies when suspects are subject to custodial interrogation.11 The Court pointed out that Miranda v. Arizona12 [1003]*1003required the exclusion of incriminating statements that were obtained during custodial interrogation of suspects in police custody unless the suspect was informed of his Miranda rights and waived them.13 But the Court qualified this exception, noting that "this extraordinary safeguard 'does not apply outside the context of the inherently coercive custodial interrogations for which it was designed. " 14 The Court observed that Murphy was not under arrest and was free to leave at the end of the meeting.15 The Court determined that Murphy was not in custody and was not entitled to a Mirando warning.16 The Court concluded that Murphy could not claim the benefit of the Miranda exception to the general rule that the Fifth Amendment privilege is not self-executing.17
The Court then turned to the second exception to the general rule that a person must claim the privilege against self-incrimination in order to exercise it. The privilege becomes self-executing when the assertion of the privilege is penalized so that the defendant does not have a free choice to remain silent and is compelled to give incriminating testimony.18 The Court held that the fact that Murphy was required to attend the meeting and truthfully answer the questions of the probation officer, who anticipated that Murphy would give incriminating answers, was not sufficient compulsion to find that Murphy was coerced into giving up his right against self-inerimination.19 The Court pointed out that "Murphy was not expressly informed during the crucial meeting with his probation officer that an assertion of the privilege would result in the imposition of a penalty." 20 The Court stated that "(lf Murphy did harbor a belief that his probation might be revoked for exercising the Fifth Amendment privilege, that belief would not have been reasonable.21
The reasoning of Murphy directs our conclusion in this case. If anything, Murphy faced greater coercive pressures than did Rivers. Murphy was required to attend the meeting, was required to answer questions truthfully, and faced substantial criminal penalties for his failure to comply with his probation conditions. Like Murphy, Rivers was not in custody for Miranda purposes. There is no suggestion that Investigator Marley had any authority to arrest Rivers or any intention to do so. It appears to have been clear that Rivers was going to walk out of the Employment Security Division office at the end of the interview, which he did. Applying the standards set out by the Court in Murphy, Rivers's failure to exercise his right against self-inerimination was not coerced and therefore the privilege was not self-executing. Investigator Marley never threatened Rivers with the loss of his unemployment benefits if Rivers exercised his Fifth Amendment rights. As the Supreme Court pointed out, a witness in a trial is required to appear and to testify truthfully. If the witness wants to exercise his rights against self-incrimination, the witness is required to explicitly do so. Rivers was not under any more compulsion than was Murphy or a witness in a trial. Because he did not affirmatively assert his right against self-incrimination, and because this failure is not exeused by any exception to the general rule requiring that he do so, Rivers forfeited the privilege and is not entitled to suppression of his statements.
Conclusion
We conclude that Judge Wolverton erred in granting Rivers's motion to suppress. We [1004]*1004accordingly reverse that order. We remand the case to the superior court for further proceedings. >
REVERSED and REMANDED.