Robert W. Hansen, J.
Testifying, pursuant to subpoena, before a grand jury investigating price-fixing practices in violation of state antitrust laws, the respondent, George Hall, was asked:
“Q.
Would you give a firm denial to any bid rigging from 1960 through 1972? In other words, no, I did not participate in any bid rigging during that time?”
Respondent sought and secured a recess so that he could consult with his attorney. He returned to the grand jury room to state, “I desire to take the fifth amendment.” He was not required nor compelled to answer the question. It was left unanswered.
Thereafter, the respondent was asked exactly four questions, two by the grand jury foreman and two by Juror Number 12. The first question asked by the foreman was:
“Q.
Do you feel that there is something at this point that you would like to tell the jury?”
The respondent answered, “. . . from 1966 to 1970 when I terminated my extended or part-time employment.” The foreman withdrew his question, and then asked :
“Q.
... I would like to ask a question that revolves around the idea that if there is anything that has not been covered in the testimony that you have given, but areas that you feel we should know about to reach a good decision, that does not interfere with your fifth amend
ment rights, that you would like to tell the jury about now?”
The respondent answered that he had spent a great deal of time outside the business in hospital, hospital fund drive and vocational school board activity, stating, “I had too many irons in the fire or trying to keep too many balls in the air to clearly recollect all of the things that might have gone on. . . .” Juror Number 12 then asked:
“Q.
Mr. Hall, even though you were retired, you did kind of keep in contact with what was going on in the company, though you didn’t up until now?”
The respondent answered, “No, sir,” explaining that he increasingly moved away from activity in the years from 1966 on and devoted his time almost exclusively to noncompetitive or negotiated work. Juror Number 12 then asked:
“Q.
But as I recall your testimony, several times you said your office. Now if you were drawing away from there why did you still keep an office there to keep going to if you wasn’t going to be there?”
The respondent answered, “Well, after you’ve been connected with a business for almost fifty years, there are certain attachments that you develop. I have minor private business that I carry on,” adding that he kept his personal files at the office and contributed to the handling of noncompetitive and negotiated work done by the company.
The witness was then excused, and it is on the basis of these four, really three, for one was withdrawn, questions asked and answered by him that the respondent claims immunity from prosecution under sec. 133.24, Stats.
Dealing with the claim of immunity because of the three questions asked and answered begins with their relationship to constitutional provisions providing that a person may not be compelled to be a witness against himself.
As this court has said, **. . . the immunity granted by such statutes is coextensive with the individual’s fifth amendment rights against self-incrimination.”
Such statutes may not stop short, but in this state have been held not to go beyond the constitutional right involved.
They are not amnesty nor forgiveness-
in-advance statutes.
Rather they are based on a
quid pro qua
principle, an exchange of information that a prosecutor could not otherwise obtain for immunity from prosecution for the crimes to which the testimony of the witness relates.
Several hurdles must be cleared before a defendant can claim statutory immunity as a defense to criminal prosecution under these statutes.
Claim of privilege.
Initially, there must be a claim of the fifth amendment privilege. This court has held that “. . . a witness must claim his privilege against self-incrimination prior to the attaching of a grant of immunity.”
During the prohibition era, the Wisconsin legislature enacted sec. 165.01, Stats, (now repealed),
applying to prohibition offenses, an immunity statute substantially similar to see. 133.24. When a defendant claimed immunity because he testified pursuant to the provisions of sec. 165.01, this court held failure to claim or assert the privilege against self-incrimination constituted waiver.
In the case before us, the respondent did claim his fifth amendment privilege not to answer a question concerning his participation in price rigging from 1960 to 1972. However, he claimed no privilege and volunteered an answer when asked if he had anything else he wanted to say to the grand jury. He claimed no privilege and voluntarily answered two additional questions, one concerning his keeping in contact with the company and the other concerning his office. We do not have here a
Miranda-like
situation where all interrogation must cease when a suspect exercises a fifth amendment privilege.
Here the claim of privilege arose and was made to a particular question asked. As this court has held, “Upon the question being propounded, the witness alone could know whether or not an answer given in accordance with the fact would tend to incriminate him. . . .”
The witness was within his constitutional right in refusing to answer a question where the answer to such question, in his judgment, might tend to incriminate him. But no bar is thereby raised to the asking of any other questions, and particularly not where, as here, the questions were not directed to the same target area. As to the three additional questions
asked, if the respondent felt that his answers to them tended to incriminate, he was free to claim the fifth amendment privilege as to any or all of them. This he did not do. Instead he voluntarily answered them, claiming no privilege, and by so doing waived the privilege not to answer.
Compelled to testify.
Even with a claim of privilege against self-incrimination made, the
Rizzo Case
makes clear that, before immunity statutes apply, the witness must actually be compelled to testify under the statute.
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Robert W. Hansen, J.
Testifying, pursuant to subpoena, before a grand jury investigating price-fixing practices in violation of state antitrust laws, the respondent, George Hall, was asked:
“Q.
Would you give a firm denial to any bid rigging from 1960 through 1972? In other words, no, I did not participate in any bid rigging during that time?”
Respondent sought and secured a recess so that he could consult with his attorney. He returned to the grand jury room to state, “I desire to take the fifth amendment.” He was not required nor compelled to answer the question. It was left unanswered.
Thereafter, the respondent was asked exactly four questions, two by the grand jury foreman and two by Juror Number 12. The first question asked by the foreman was:
“Q.
Do you feel that there is something at this point that you would like to tell the jury?”
The respondent answered, “. . . from 1966 to 1970 when I terminated my extended or part-time employment.” The foreman withdrew his question, and then asked :
“Q.
... I would like to ask a question that revolves around the idea that if there is anything that has not been covered in the testimony that you have given, but areas that you feel we should know about to reach a good decision, that does not interfere with your fifth amend
ment rights, that you would like to tell the jury about now?”
The respondent answered that he had spent a great deal of time outside the business in hospital, hospital fund drive and vocational school board activity, stating, “I had too many irons in the fire or trying to keep too many balls in the air to clearly recollect all of the things that might have gone on. . . .” Juror Number 12 then asked:
“Q.
Mr. Hall, even though you were retired, you did kind of keep in contact with what was going on in the company, though you didn’t up until now?”
The respondent answered, “No, sir,” explaining that he increasingly moved away from activity in the years from 1966 on and devoted his time almost exclusively to noncompetitive or negotiated work. Juror Number 12 then asked:
“Q.
But as I recall your testimony, several times you said your office. Now if you were drawing away from there why did you still keep an office there to keep going to if you wasn’t going to be there?”
The respondent answered, “Well, after you’ve been connected with a business for almost fifty years, there are certain attachments that you develop. I have minor private business that I carry on,” adding that he kept his personal files at the office and contributed to the handling of noncompetitive and negotiated work done by the company.
The witness was then excused, and it is on the basis of these four, really three, for one was withdrawn, questions asked and answered by him that the respondent claims immunity from prosecution under sec. 133.24, Stats.
Dealing with the claim of immunity because of the three questions asked and answered begins with their relationship to constitutional provisions providing that a person may not be compelled to be a witness against himself.
As this court has said, **. . . the immunity granted by such statutes is coextensive with the individual’s fifth amendment rights against self-incrimination.”
Such statutes may not stop short, but in this state have been held not to go beyond the constitutional right involved.
They are not amnesty nor forgiveness-
in-advance statutes.
Rather they are based on a
quid pro qua
principle, an exchange of information that a prosecutor could not otherwise obtain for immunity from prosecution for the crimes to which the testimony of the witness relates.
Several hurdles must be cleared before a defendant can claim statutory immunity as a defense to criminal prosecution under these statutes.
Claim of privilege.
Initially, there must be a claim of the fifth amendment privilege. This court has held that “. . . a witness must claim his privilege against self-incrimination prior to the attaching of a grant of immunity.”
During the prohibition era, the Wisconsin legislature enacted sec. 165.01, Stats, (now repealed),
applying to prohibition offenses, an immunity statute substantially similar to see. 133.24. When a defendant claimed immunity because he testified pursuant to the provisions of sec. 165.01, this court held failure to claim or assert the privilege against self-incrimination constituted waiver.
In the case before us, the respondent did claim his fifth amendment privilege not to answer a question concerning his participation in price rigging from 1960 to 1972. However, he claimed no privilege and volunteered an answer when asked if he had anything else he wanted to say to the grand jury. He claimed no privilege and voluntarily answered two additional questions, one concerning his keeping in contact with the company and the other concerning his office. We do not have here a
Miranda-like
situation where all interrogation must cease when a suspect exercises a fifth amendment privilege.
Here the claim of privilege arose and was made to a particular question asked. As this court has held, “Upon the question being propounded, the witness alone could know whether or not an answer given in accordance with the fact would tend to incriminate him. . . .”
The witness was within his constitutional right in refusing to answer a question where the answer to such question, in his judgment, might tend to incriminate him. But no bar is thereby raised to the asking of any other questions, and particularly not where, as here, the questions were not directed to the same target area. As to the three additional questions
asked, if the respondent felt that his answers to them tended to incriminate, he was free to claim the fifth amendment privilege as to any or all of them. This he did not do. Instead he voluntarily answered them, claiming no privilege, and by so doing waived the privilege not to answer.
Compelled to testify.
Even with a claim of privilege against self-incrimination made, the
Rizzo Case
makes clear that, before immunity statutes apply, the witness must actually be compelled to testify under the statute.
Respondent and petitioners claim that compulsion arises from the very fact of testifying in response to a subpoena, but that contention is specifically rejected, and was, in fact, rejected in
Rizzo.
For the immunity statutes to operate, there must be “ ‘. . . evidence under real compulsion,
not mere
right of compulsion.’ ”
The witness, having claimed the privilege against self-incrimination to the questions asked, must be ordered or directed by one having authority so to do to answer
under penalty of contempt for failing so to do.
As
Rizzo
makes clear, since the enactment by the legislature of sec. 885.34, Stats, (now sec. 972.08), “. . . there is the additional requirement that a witness will receive immunity only if compelled to testify ‘by order of the court on motion of the district attorney.’ . . .”
This prescribed procedure for judicial, not prosecutorial or ministerial,
granting of immunity is not an amendment to any particular state immunity statute. It prescribes the procedure, uniform and mandated, to be followed in the granting of immunity under all the state immunity statutes. Since there was, as to respondent or petitioners, no effort to compel testimony, the manner in which immunity is to be granted under sec. 972.08 is not here involved, since in no instance here did the situation develop to where the district attorney could move and the court could grant immunity.
Tends to< incriminate.
Finally, in this state a witness will be immune from prosecution under state immunity statutes only where “. . . the testimony that he divulged while under compulsion is part of or led to evidence which supports the prosecution from which he claims immunity.”
Thus a witness “. . . has no right to claim the privilege where his answers could not be used
as a basis for, or in aid of, a prosecution against Mm.”
State immunity statutes do
“ ‘. . .
not immune because of evidence given other than that of a self-incriminatory character ....”'
In order to entitle a witness to the immunity granted by these immunity statutes, it follows that “. . . the evidence given by him must have been of a character which he was privileged to withhold under the constitutional provision. . . .”
The testimony the witness was compelled to divulge must be self-incriminating in nature.
In the case before us, the answers voluntarily made by respondent to the three questions involved did not tend to indicate that the respondent was guilty of criminal misconduct. The answers given by respondent in no manner tend to convict the witness of any crime. The trial court found that the answers given did bear upon the question of the witness’ credibility. But that is not the test. The testimony divulged while under compulsion, under the
Rizzo
test, must be part of or lead to evidence which supports the prosecution from which the witness, later defendant, claims immunity. That is not the situation here.
Statutory construction.
Respondent and petitioners would have this court review the legislative history
of sec. 133.24, Stats., to locate and implement a legislative intent that this particular statute, relating to antitrust prosecutions, he considered unique and different from all other state immunity statutes. It is exactly such individualized approach to construing the various state immunity statutes that was rejected in
Carchidi.
There this court found and applied a common legislative purpose in the various state immunity statutes enacted by the legislature.
In
Carchidi
this court went beyond determining a common intent and purpose in all of the immunity statutes to reject the piecemeal approach to construing individual immunity statutes as leading to absurd results.
In the recent
Alioto Case,
this court dealt with the construction and application of sec. 885.25 (2),
a statute similar in language used in
sec. 133.24, the statute involved in the case before us.
In
Alioto,
this court followed the
Carehidi
over-all approach to the construction and application of various state immunity statutes,
as we have done in this decision.
Therefore, following the
Carehidi
construction of our state immunity statutes as coextensive with the constitutional privilege against self-incrimination and applying the
Rizzo-Alioto
tests on immunity from prosecution as to offenses about which a defendant testified before a grand jury, it is enough here to hold as to respondent, George Hall, that (1) he did not claim his privilege against self-incrimination as to the three questions involved; (2) he was not compelled to testify under the statute; and (3) the testimony that he divulged was not part of nor did it lead to evidence which supports the prosecution from which he claims immunity. As to defendant petitioners, John R. Clark, Herman M. Hinrichs, Thomas P. Montgomery, Robert T. Pharo and Clifford Reuschlein, we hold that (1) they did not at any time claim their privilege against self-incrimination; and (2) they were not compelled to give their testimony before the grand jury.
As to respondent’s cross appeal from, an order of the circuit court, dated March 12, 1974, denying his motion to dismiss the indictment on a variety of grounds other than immunity, the state’s motion to dismiss such cross appeal is granted. Where the state appealed from that part of the circuit court’s order suppressing a third lineup, this court permitted a cross appeal by the defendant as to a second lineup.
Not only were the proceedings in the
Beals Case
“totally interwoven,” the two rulings regarding the lineups were in the same order. In the situation here, two separate court orders are involved. The state appeals from the order of the trial court, entered on May 14, 1974. The attempted cross appeal is from the earlier order of the trial court, dated March 12, 1974. The
Beals
requirement is that appeal and cross appeal be from the same order of the trial court. That is not the case here, so the motion to dismiss the cross appeal is granted. The motion by the state to strike a supplemental return filed July 8, 1974, is denied.
By the Court.
— As to respondent, George Hall, the order granting respondent’s motion to quash the indictment is reversed, and the case remanded for further proceedings. As to defendant petitioners, John R. Clark, Herman M. Hinrichs, Thomas F. Montgomery, Robert T. Pharo and Clifford Reuschlein, the order denying their motion to dismiss or quash the indictment on the ground of immunity under sec. 133.24, Stats., is affirmed. As to the cross appeal of respondent, George Hall, the state’s motion to dismiss is granted. The motion by the state to strike a supplemental return filed July 8, 1974, is denied.
Day, J., took no part.