Southwestern Bell Telephone Company v. National Labor Relations Board

667 F.2d 470, 109 L.R.R.M. (BNA) 2602, 1982 U.S. App. LEXIS 21969
CourtCourt of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit
DecidedFebruary 8, 1982
Docket80-2072
StatusPublished
Cited by11 cases

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Southwestern Bell Telephone Company v. National Labor Relations Board, 667 F.2d 470, 109 L.R.R.M. (BNA) 2602, 1982 U.S. App. LEXIS 21969 (5th Cir. 1982).

Opinion

GEE, Circuit Judge:

This case came before the court upon the petition of Southwestern Bell Telephone Company (“Bell”), filed pursuant to section 10(f) of the National Labor Relations Act (“NLRA” or “Act”), as amended, 29 U.S.C. § 151 et seq., to review and set aside a decision and order of the National Labor Relations Board (“Board”), issued against it on August 27, 1980. The Board cross applied for enforcement of its order under section 10(e) of the Act. We find that the Board erroneously concluded that the statutory rights of Charles Gottschalk and Mickey Martin were violated and, therefore, deny enforcement.

The Charles Gottschalk Case

On December 7, 1977, Billy Hubbard, a security officer for Bell, received information that a pair of climbing hooks and a safety belt bearing the Bell system markings were on display at a pawn shop. Because Bell does not sell its equipment, Hubbard suspected that the items had been stolen and pawned and, on December 9, accompanied by a Houston police officer, he went to the shop and obtained the name, address, driver’s license number, and physical description of the person who had pawned the equipment in question. Charles Gottschalk was the name provided by the shopkeeper. Hubbard confirmed that Charles Gottschalk in Bell’s employ lived at the same address, had the same driver’s license number, and fit the physical description provided by the owner of the pawnshop. Based on this information, a meeting was set with Gottschalk for December 14 to allow him an opportunity to give his side of the story.

On the morning of the 14th, Gottschalk’s immediate supervisor was informed of the meeting and was requested to make certain that Gottschalk was not sent on any assignments that morning. The supervisor advised Mark McQuiller, the union steward at the work center, that he should remain for the meeting in the event Gottschalk desired union representation. Gottschalk consulted with McQuiller prior to the meeting and was advised not to say anything. At 8:15 a. m., Gottschalk was brought to the office of Garner, Gottschalk’s third-level supervisor, for a meeting with Garner and Hubbard. Upon Gottschalk’s arrival, Hubbard informed him of what had been learned to that point. At that time, Gottschalk requested the presence of his union representative, and McQuiller was brought to the meeting. McQuiller was informed of what had occurred prior to his arrival, and then Hubbard requested that McQuiller not answer any of the questions put to Gottschalk. 1 Hubbard then proceeded to question Gottschalk about the stolen property. *473 Gottschalk became highly emotional and stated that, despite McQuiller’s previous advice not to say anything, he wished to confess to the theft. The confession was reduced to writing. At the end of Hubbard’s questioning, he specifically asked McQuiller if he had any questions or clarifications that he wished to make before Hubbard concluded the interview. McQuiller had nothing to add. Although McQuiller remained silent throughout the interview, at no time did Gottschalk attempt to solicit his advice or counsel. After Hubbard departed, Gottschalk was informed of his suspension pending termination.

The Board decided that Bell violated Gottschalk’s right to union representation at the December 14, 1977, investigatory interview by requesting the representative not to interfere with questioning. We set aside that decision, finding no such violation.

The right of an employee to have a union representative present at an investigatory interview was established in the companion cases of NLRB v. J. Weingarten, Inc., 420 U.S. 251, 95 S.Ct. 959, 43 L.Ed.2d 171 (1975), and International Ladies’ Garment Workers Union v. Quality Manufacturing Co., 420 U.S. 276, 95 S.Ct. 972, 43 L.Ed.2d 189 (1975). The Supreme Court concluded that the Weingarten right was a derivative of the right of employees to act in concert for mutual aid and protection provided in section 7 of the NLRA, 29 U.S.C. § 151 et seq. 420 U.S. at 260, 95 S.Ct. at 965. In reaching this decision, the Court discussed the contours and limits of this statutory right. The fifth provision in the contours and limits is the most relevant to the case at hand. It states:

Fifth, the employer has no duty to bargain with any union representative who may be permitted to attend the investigatory interview. The Board said in Mobil, “We are not giving the union any particular rights with respect to predisciplinary discussions which it otherwise was not able to secure during collective bargaining negotiations.” . .. The employer has no duty to bargain with the union representative at an investigatory interview. “The representative is present to assist the employee and may attempt to clarify the facts or suggest other employees who may have knowledge of them. The employer, however, is free to insist that he is only interested, at that time, in hearing the employee’s own account of the matter under investigation.”

Id. at 259-260, 95 S.Ct. at 965.

This provision applies directly to the circumstances of this case. McQuiller was present at the investigatory interview and was allowed to “assist the employee,” “to clarify the facts,” and to “suggest other employees who may have knowledge of them,” but Bell insisted that it was only interested at that time in hearing the employee’s own account of what occurred. Bell informed McQuiller of the meeting, allowing him time to consult with Gottschalk. McQuiller did consult with Gottschalk prior to the interview, and McQuiller was told that when Hubbard had completed his interview he would be free to make any additions, suggestions, or clarifications he desired. Gottschalk was not told that he could not consult with McQuiller, and Gottschalk avowed that he was going against McQuiller’s advice in making a statement.

In the decision in the present ease, the Board has, therefore, made an unwarranted extension of the employee’s Weingarten rights. It is clear that investigatory confrontation without requested union representation is an unfair labor practice, Lennox Industries v. NLRB, 637 F.2d 340 (5th Cir. 1981), and an employer cannot discipline an employee for refusing in an investigatory interview to answer questions without union assistance. 2 The union rep *474 resentative has the right to make additions and clarifications to the meeting. This right is not without restrictions, however. The limitations in the instant case were within the perimeters set forth by the Supreme Court in Weingarten

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