People v. Ramos

193 Misc. 2d 564, 751 N.Y.S.2d 714, 2002 N.Y. Misc. LEXIS 1506
CourtCriminal Court of the City of New York
DecidedOctober 15, 2002
StatusPublished
Cited by3 cases

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People v. Ramos, 193 Misc. 2d 564, 751 N.Y.S.2d 714, 2002 N.Y. Misc. LEXIS 1506 (N.Y. Super. Ct. 2002).

Opinion

OPINION OF THE COURT

Ethan Greenberg, J.

Decision

Shortly before 2:00 a.m. on December 22, 2001, defendant Leonides Ramos and his neighbor Juan DeLa Rosa quarreled [565]*565in the street just outside their apartment building at 970 Anderson Avenue. Mr. DeLa Rosa was angry. He believed that defendant Ramos had glued the lock to the front door to his apartment shut. DeLa Rosa held a screwdriver in his hand; a few minutes earlier DeLa Rosa had used the screwdriver to try to pry open the door to his home. Defendant Ramos picked up a long metal pipe that was lying in the street. Ramos then hit DeLa Rosa with the pipe, once in the arm and twice in the head. DeLa Rosa suffered head wounds that required 12 stitches.

At trial, defendant Ramos claimed that he acted in self-defense because he believed DeLa Rosa was trying to stab him with the screwdriver. The People and DeLa Rosa asserted that DeLa Rosa never made any threatening gesture with the screwdriver, and that defendant Ramos had acted in a rage rather than in self-defense.

Defendant was charged with the crimes of assault in the third degree (in violation of Penal Law § 120.00 [1]) and criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree (in violation of Penal Law § 265.01 [2]). The theory of the weapons charge was that defendant possessed a dangerous instrument with the intent to use it unlawfully against another person, in that defendant used the metal pipe to strike Mr. DeLa Rosa.

Prior to the submission of the case to the jury, defendant asked the court to instruct the jury that defendant’s claim of self-defense or justification was a defense to both the assault and the weapons charge. This request seemed to be a fair and logical one. But it also seemed to run afoul of the rule of People v Pons (68 NY2d 264 [1986] [and a long line of subsequent cases]) which holds that justification is not a defense to a charge of weapons possession.

As detailed below, the application of the Pons rule to this case could lead to considerable jury confusion and would be unfair to the defendant. Accordingly, the court — with the acquiescence of the parties and acting as a matter of discretion— dismissed the weapons charge pursuant to CPL 300.40 (3) (a). The facts of this case further lead the court to suggest that the rule of Pons should be revisited and, at the very least, refined. More specifically, the Pons rule should at a minimum be modified so that justification will be regarded as a defense to a weapons charge, provided that: (a) the weapon is not a per se weapon, and (b) defendant’s evidence (if accepted as true) shows that defendant first picked up (or otherwise obtained) the weapon during the course of the incident at issue solely for the purpose of self-defense.

[566]*566Analysis

The Pons Rule

In People v Pons (68 NY2d 264, 267 [1986]), the Court of Appeals elaborated upon its earlier decision in People v Almodovar (62 NY2d 126 [1984]) and set forth the clear black-letter rule that “because possession of a weapon does not involve the use of physical force * * * there are no circumstances when justification (Penal Law § 35.15) can be a defense to the crime of criminal possession of a weapon.”1

The Pons Court went even further. The defendant there suggested that in a case where the charge was possession of a weapon with the intent to use the same unlawfully against another person, justification could at least serve as a partial defense that, if established, would reduce the charge to mere possession. But the Pons Court rejected that suggestion too. It attempted to explain this result by stating:

“[I]ntent to use and use of force are not the same, and justification, by the very words of the statute (Penal Law § 35.15), is limited to the latter. Second, it does not follow that because defendant was justified in the actual shooting of the weapon under the particular circumstances existing at that moment, he lacked the intent to use the weapon unlawfully during the continuum of time that he possessed it prior to the shooting.” (68 NY2d at 267-268.)2

The rationale for the Pons rule is perhaps best set forth by quoting directly from the opinion in Pons rather than by attempting any paraphrase. That is so because the reasoning [567]*567and the result in Pons are somewhat counterintuitive. After all, in most cases where a defendant is charged with both an assault (or homicide) and with possession of a weapon with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, the intent referred to in the weapons charge is defendant’s intent during the alleged assault, rather than to his intent during some vague “continuum of time” prior to the assault.

Perhaps the best explanation that can be made for the reasoning behind the Pons rule can be found in Davis v Strack, where the Second Circuit stated:

“A defendant may use his illegally possessed gun only in a manner that falls within the protection of the justification statute and nonetheless be guilty of criminal possession, second degree. That is because, regardless that his actual, ultimate use of the gun might not have been unlawful (because it was justified under § 35.15), he may have harbored intentions to use the gun in other circumstances that would have been unlawful.” (270 F3d 111, 134 [2d Cir 2001].)

In other words, the Pons rule prevents a defendant who as a general matter carries an illegal weapon around for possible use in nefarious and unlawful activities from somehow converting his weapon into a legal one merely because in a particular case he uses that weapon in self-defense. Or, to state the same idea in more elevated and concise language, “A lawful use of a weapon does not necessarily legitimate its prior possession.” (State v Harmon, 104 NJ 189, 212 n 10, 515 A2d 1047, 1059 n 10 [1986].)

Whatever its merits or drawbacks, the Pons rule is now firmly established as New York law. (See e.g. People v Flores, 219 AD2d 40 [1st Dept 1996]; People v LoCurto, 216 AD2d 167, 167 [1st Dept 1995] [“(I)t is inappropriate to submit a justification defense in connection with a possessory offense”]; People v Perez, 125 AD2d 236, 238 [1st Dept 1986] [“Justification, based on self-defense * * * pertains only to crimes involving use of physical force and is not applicable to a crime based on possession of a weapon”]; People v Thomas, 232 AD2d 667 [2d Dept 1996], lv denied 89 NY2d 947 [1997] [“Justification based on self-defense pertains only to the use of physical force and does not apply to a crime based on the possession of a weapon, even though an element of the crime is that the defendant possessed the weapon with the intent to use it unlawfully against another”]; People v Cosby, 200 AD2d 682 [2d Dept], lv denied 83 [568]*568NY2d 851 [1994]; People v Chatman, 122 AD2d 148 [2d Dept 1986].)

The Present Case

Defendant Ramos is charged with both assault and criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree. The theory of the weapons charge is that defendant possessed a metal pipe with intent to use it unlawfully against Mr. DeLa Rosa in that defendant hit Mr. DeLa Rosa with the pipe.

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