People v. Ramos CA2/4

CourtCalifornia Court of Appeal
DecidedFebruary 28, 2025
DocketB332623
StatusUnpublished

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Filed 2/28/25 P. v. Ramos CA2/4 NOT TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE OFFICIAL REPORTS

California Rules of Court, rule 8.1115(a), prohibits courts and parties from citing or relying on opinions not certified for publication or ordered published, except as specified by rule 8.1115(b). This opinion has not been certified for publication or ordered published for purposes of rule 8.1115.

IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT

DIVISION FOUR

THE PEOPLE, B332623

Plaintiff and Respondent, (Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. VA157242) v.

ROY EDDY RAMOS,

Defendant and Appellant.

APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County, Laura F. Priver Judge. Affirmed with instructions. Victor Morse, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and Appellant. Rob Bonta, Attorney General, Lance E. Winters, Chief Assistant Attorney General, Susan Sullivan Pithey, Assistant Attorney General, Steven D. Matthews and J. Michael Lehmann, Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff and Respondent. Appellant Roy Eddie Ramos, Jr. fatally stabbed Ron Quinones during an altercation at a riverbed encampment. No one else saw the altercation, but another resident of the encampment, C.G., overheard it.1 C.G. identified appellant as the perpetrator and testified about what he heard at appellant’s murder trial. Appellant also testified at trial, claiming that he stabbed Quinones in self-defense after Quinones “rushed” him, choked him, and attacked him with a piece of wood. The jury rejected appellant’s self-defense theory and found him guilty of second degree murder. It also found appellant guilty of intimidating C.G. and dissuading his testimony by force or threat. Appellant now contends that the murder conviction must be reversed because the evidence was insufficient to prove that he did not act in perfect or imperfect self-defense or in the heat of passion. He further contends that the evidence was insufficient to support jury instructions on the mutual combat and initial aggressor exceptions to self-defense, that the court should have stayed one of his sentences for witness tampering under Penal Code section 6542, and that the abstract of judgment should be corrected to reflect his true name. We order the abstract of judgment modified to reflect appellant’s true name, Roy Eddie Ramos, Jr., but otherwise affirm appellant’s convictions and sentence.

1 We refer to victim C.G. by initials to protect his privacy. (See Cal. Rules of Court, rule 8.90(b)(4).) 2 All further statutory references are to the Penal Code unless otherwise indicated.

2 PROCEDURAL HISTORY An amended information filed May 3, 2023 charged appellant with the murder of Quinones (§ 187, subd. (a), count 1), the intimidation of C.G. (§ 137, subd. (b), count 2), and the dissuasion of C.G. by force or threat (§ 136.1, subd. (c)(1), count 3). The information alleged as aggravating circumstances that appellant was armed with a knife, engaged in violent conduct indicating a serious danger to society, committed the charged offenses while on parole, and served prior prison terms. (Cal. Rules of Court, rules 4.421(a)(2), (b)(1), (b)(3), (b)(4).) It also alleged that appellant suffered three prior strike convictions. (§§ 667, subds. (b)-(j), 1170.12.) During appellant’s jury trial, outside the presence of the jury, appellant admitted and the court found true the aggravating factors and prior convictions. The jury found appellant guilty of second degree murder, witness intimidation, and witness dissuasion. Prior to sentencing, appellant filed a motion to dismiss his strike convictions under section 1385 and People v. Superior Court (Romero) (1996) 13 Cal.4th 497. The trial court granted the motion in part. With respect to the murder count, count 1, the court struck one of appellant’s strikes and sentenced him as a second striker: it imposed the mandatory term of 15 years to life, and tripled the minimum parole eligibility to 45 years. On count 3, the court struck two of appellant’s strikes but imposed the high term of four years, which it doubled to eight years due to the remaining strike. On count 2, the court struck all three strikes and imposed the midterm of three years, which it ordered to run concurrent with the eight-year sentence on count 3. Appellant’s total sentence was thus 53 years to life.

3 Appellant timely appealed. FACTUAL BACKGROUND I. Prosecution Evidence A. Background In November 2021, appellant lived at a riverbed encampment in Santa Fe Springs that consisted of 20 to 25 people living in tents. C.G. also lived there, as did victim Ron Quinones’s son, Rory Quinones.3 Quinones did not live at the encampment but visited often. During one such visit, about three or four days before the November 21, 2021 stabbing, Quinones’s car was stolen. Quinones’s belongings, including his wallet, phone, identification, and backpack were stolen along with the car. C.G. testified that Quinones was “very upset” and “angry” about the theft and “the whole situation,” and was “blaming people” that C.G. did not believe were involved, “trying to make it a big conspiracy.” B. Stabbing Incident Around 10:00 p.m. on November 21, 2021, C.G. was in his tent when Quinones came by. C.G. told Quinones, “I don’t want anything to do with it,” and Quinones left without saying much more to C.G., who remained in his tent. About two minutes later, C.G. heard Quinones having a loud conversation with Joo Heon Cha nearby. C.G. testified that the conversation was “somewhat” heated, with “a little bit of yelling.” According to C.G., Cha was upset that Rory had come to his house, and Quinones denied sending Rory there and refused to apologize to Cha.4 C.G.

3 We refer to Ron Quinones as “Quinones” and Rory Quinones as “Rory” to avoid confusion. 4 Cha reluctantly appeared at trial and repeatedly stated that he did not want to be there or cooperate. He nevertheless

4 testified that Quinones “was more just defensive” than angry. C.G. did not hear the discussion turn physical. Shortly thereafter, Quinones walked to Rory’s tent, which C.G. estimated was “maybe 50, 150 feet” from his own. C.G. heard him having a “very heated argument” with appellant. C.G. testified that Quinones was “livid yelling.” C.G. “couldn’t make out what they were saying, exactly,” but “thought [he] made out [appellant] saying, um, ‘you can’t talk to me or my girlfriend like that.’”5 C.G. heard appellant and Quinones yelling “for a while,” indistinctly, before Quinones “clearly yelled, ‘oh, you’ve got a knife? You’ve got a knife. Are you going to stab me? You’re really going to stab me?’” C.G. continued, “Not long after that, I heard they weren’t yelling anymore. And I heard scuffling and feet moving. It sounded like fighting for about – only about three to six seconds.” He reiterated on cross-examination that the scuffle “was very short,” “maybe like between three and eight seconds.” C.G. then heard Quinones “scream in pain twice.” Quinones yelled, “‘You stabbed me. You f’ing stabbed me,’” and “‘Wow, you really f’ing stabbed me.’” C.G. “didn’t hear much” after that. At that point, C.G. decided “to go help Ron because he was stabbed, obviously.” He put on his shoes, left his tent, and walked over to Rory’s tent cautiously, “because I didn’t want to

testified that he had argued with Quinones on November 21, 2021, and that Quinones was “angry” afterward. Cha testified that he did not remember hearing anything after that, though he admitted that he called 911. On cross-examination, Cha was impeached with his preliminary hearing testimony that he used heroin with Quinones and heard Quinones “going all crazy and like arguing” on November 21, 2021. 5 When he took the stand for the defense, appellant testified that he lived with his girlfriend Jordan at the encampment.

5 run over to a knife fight.” C.G.

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