Norman v. Employment Security Agency

356 P.2d 913, 83 Idaho 1, 1960 Ida. LEXIS 251
CourtIdaho Supreme Court
DecidedNovember 4, 1960
Docket8911
StatusPublished
Cited by13 cases

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Norman v. Employment Security Agency, 356 P.2d 913, 83 Idaho 1, 1960 Ida. LEXIS 251 (Idaho 1960).

Opinion

TAYLOR, Chief Justice.

Claimant (appellant) had been working as a journeyman plumber when his employment was terminated, September 18, 1959, by reason of completion of the job. September 23, 1959, he filed a claim for *4 benefits, effective September 20, 1959, under the employment security law, in the employment security office at Blackfoot, Idaho, where claimant resided. September 24, 1959, the agency gave him an introduction card referring him to the Math Behrend Plumbing and Heating company of Blackfoot, responsive to a request from that company for a plumber. Claimant went to the Behrend shop and there talked to either Mr. or Mrs. Behrend, or to both.

Behrends advised claimant that they desired to employ a journeyman plumber who could also estimate and prepare bids on plumbing jobs and also act as salesman in the shop when not engaged in plumbing work; explaining that it was Behrend’s desire to be relieved from part of such managerial duties so that he at times could get away from the business. The employment would be year-round at a salary of $5,000 per annum, payable monthly, plus commissions on jobs and merchandise sold by claimant, and possible bonuses. Claimant advised Behrends that he was doubtful whether he could accept such employment because of the rules which he was required to adhere to as a member of the plumbers and pipe fitters union, and that he would first discuss the matter with the union representative.

After talking with the business manager of his local, claimant told Behrends that he could not accept the job because his union contract forbade him to accept employment as a journeyman plumber on any other basis than an hourly wage at the union scale, and that if he accepted the job on the terms offered he would jeopardize his union membership.

On his insurance interview September 29, 1959, claimant made and signed the following statement:

“I talked to Mrs. Behrend and she explained the salary ($5000/year & bonus on any jobs brought into shop & commissions on anything sold). I said I would talk it over with the union agent. The agent said the only way I could work there is to work at union scale wages. Mrs. Behrend and I are still trying to come to a compromise because I do not wish to lose my union standing but I also want to work.”

October 5, 1959, a determination was entered denying benefits and claimant then sought a redetermination. His request therefor contained the following statement:

“If I had gone to work for Behrend Plumbing I would have endangered my union membership. I would have been fined and possibly lost my union book if I had stayed on the job. I don’t want to lose my standing in the union. Union scale wages are $3.50 per hour — not $5000.00 per year. Behrend Plumbing has cancelled their working agreement with the union sometime *5 ago. Also at this time there is no opening at the shop, even though the position I was offered was not filled.”

Upon claimant’s request for redetermination, the agency by letter directed to the Behrend Plumbing company requested specific information as to the employment offered. The Behrends replied by letter, dated October 15, 1959:

“In answer to your letter of October 14, we did offer a job to Mr. Norman, guaranteeing $5000.00 per year paid monthly. We, also, offered a bonus if the year had been good and he had worked steady, and commissions on some of our larger items (such as: water sofiwers, water heaters, etc.) or house jobs which he, himself, sold for the store.

“Mr. Norman was interested and promised to let us know, when he returned he said he would have to turn it down because the union did not approve.

“In answer to your questions: (1) We would not force Mr. Norman to work for us. He had the opportunity and turned it down. If someone else was truly interested in a steady job on a guaranteed basis we would certainly talk to them. (2) If Mr. Norman had accepted the job when he was first referred to us, he would still be working and there would be no lay off due to lack of work as we intended to absorb this ourselves. (3) We believe the answer to this is answered in # 2. But to clarify a little further, we know there are always slow times in the construction work during the winter months and we would have expected Mr. Norman to have helped around the shop with odd jobs, to be on call for repair work, or to have been trying to sell above mentioned items. His pay would have been continued.

“Now to explain our decision in asking the local office not to send any more referrals to us at this time. We decided to wait until spring to make an offer to another person since we had manage to get through our heavy months without help. Since receiving your letter, we have reconsidered and will make the offer again this winter to anyone qualifying and willing to work on a guaranteed basis instead of hourly wage. The offer will be this: $5000.00 guaranteed per year paid monthly on the following scale; 5 winter months, November through March at $300.00 per month, the other 7 months April through October at $500.00 per month. The commissions and possible bonus remaining the same.

“Yours truly,
“Math Behrend Plumbing & Heating
“(Signed) Mrs. Math Behrend.”

Upon the redetermination, October 21, 1959, the claim was again denied on the ground “ * * * that the claimant’s unemployment is due to his failure without good cause to apply for available, suitable work as directed, * *

*6 On claimant’s appeal, a hearing was had ■before the chief appeals examiner at Blackfoot December 3, 1959. Upon this hearing ■claimant appeared with his counsel. Claimant, Mr. Behrend, and one Gericke, business manager of the local union, testified as witnesses. Claimant testified in part as follows :

“Q. You understood that there was .a job there? A. Well, there was a job opening. Yes.
“Q. Yes, and you were discussing the terms of employment with Mr. Behrend, is that right? A. Yes.
“Q. And did he at some point in this negotiation, say — well—he didn’t have a job for you? A. No.
“Q. Well, did you at some point in the negotiation say that you wanted to discontinue negotiations? A. You have me in a technical spot there; but I don’t think so. How about it Math?
“Q. What did you say? Let me ask you that way? What happened? I’m trying to see how the negotiations fell down. A. Well, it fell down because I told Mr. Behrend that I would have to check with the union as the statement was made before.
“Q. In other words, before negotiations were completed, as I understand from your testimony, you had told him, ‘Well, at this point I have to check with my union.’ A. Yes.
“Q. All right, and then did you check with your union ? A. Yes.
“Q. And then what did you tell him or did you go back? A. I told him, no, when I went back. I can’t take it.

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