Fairchild, J.
The Statute.
This action was brought under sec. 269.S6S, Stats., entitled, “Declaratory judgments against obscene matter.” The issue is whether the matter complained of is obscene. The word “obscene” is not defined. The statute does provide that,
“. . . The dominant effect of the whole of such matter shall be determinative of whether said matter is obscene.” 1
The statute directs the court,
“. . . subject to the ordinary rules of evidence in civil actions [to] . . . receive the testimony of experts and evidence as to the literary, cultural or educational character of said matter and as to the manner and form of its production, publication, advertisement, distribution and exhibition. " 2
Where there is a jury trial and the jury finds the matter obscene, the court is directed to enter a judgment of obscen[138]*138ity unless the finding is contrary to law or to the great weight and clear preponderance of the evidence.3
Under certain circumstances, a judgment of obscenity is made admissible in evidence in a criminal prosecution for publication or transfer of obscene matter, or possession thereof for purpose of sale,4 or in a prosecution for knowing possession of obscene printed matter or other materials.5
In State v. Chobot 6 we reviewed a conviction of possession of obscene written matter for sale. We there treated the definition of the word “obscene” in our statutes as the equivalent of the definition enunciated by the supreme court of the United States, and often referred to as the Roth test.7 We approved the use of the Roth test by the circuit court, sustained its finding that the materials involved were obscene, and decided that as so applied our statute did not offend the state constitutional guaranty of free speech, writing, and publication 8 nor the federal constitutional guaranty of freedom of speech or press against state action.9
In the case now before us, the application of our statute dealing with obscene material, of the state constitutional guaranty of free speech, writing, and publication, and of the similar federal constitutional guaranty against state action, respectively, again turns upon the question of what is ob[139]*139scene. We approach that question with the thought that it is desirable that the definition of obscenity be the same for all three purposes. We observe, however, that a state may permit greater freedom of speech and press than the Fourteenth amendment would require, although it may not permit less. We recognize Roth and other decisions of the supreme court of the United States as completely binding upon us in determining whether the state violates the Fourteenth amendment in proscribing or suppressing a particular piece of material as obscene. Such decisions are eminent and highly persuasive, but not controlling, authority, on the meaning of the term “obscene” in our own statute,
We think that although the obscenity issue is critical, and appears to be identical, in all three questions, i.e., applicability of state statute, claim of state constitutional protection, and claim of federal constitutional protection, we must logically determine the state issues first. Thus in a case where all three questions are raised, we necessarily decide all three, including the federal question, in affirming a conviction or other judgment based on a finding of obscenity. [140]*140This was true in Chobot. Where, however, we reverse a finding of obscenity, we, logically, have decided only state questions and not the federal, unless we were to say that under the particular circumstances the finding would stand, but for-the existence of the Fourteenth amendment.
The Roth Test.
The capsule statement of the Roth test of obscenity is as follows: “Whether to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material taken as a whole appeals to prurient interest.” 11
The court equates material which deals with sex in a manner appealing to prurient interest as “material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts” and quotes a dictionary definition of “prurient” as follows: “. . . Itching; longing; uneasy with desire or longing; of persons, having itching, morbid, or lascivious longings; of desire, curiosity, or propensity, lewd. . . .” 12
The court approved the standards applied by the trial courts in the cases under review (Roth and Alberts) 13 although not expressed in the same terms as the capsule statement. In Roth, the jury had been instructed: “ ‘The words “obscene, lewd and lascivious” as used in the law, signify that form of immorality which has relation to sexual impurity and has a tendency to excite lustful thoughts.’ ” (p. 486.) And that “ ‘The test in each case is the effect of the book, picture or publication considered as a whole, not upon any particular class, but upon all those whom it is likely to reach. In other words, you determine its impact upon the average person in the community. The books, pictures and circulars must be judged as a whole, in their [141]*141entire context, and you are not to consider detached or separate portions in reaching a conclusion.’ ” (p. 490.) In Alberts the trial judge indicated that as the trier of facts, he was judging each item as a whole as it would affect the normal person.
The court also appeared to endorse the definition of the American Law Institute, Model Penal Code, sec. 207.10(2) (Tentative Draft No. 6, p. 1, 1957) :
“A thing is obscene if, considered as a whole, its predominant appeal is to prurient interest, i.e., a shameful or morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excretion, and if it goes substantially beyond customary limits of candor in description or representation of such matters.”
The court also said: “Obscene material is material which deals with sex in a manner appealing to prurient interest.” 14
There are several areas in which we, as well as others, have found the Roth test difficult to interpret. An excellent analysis of the Roth decision is contained in Censorship of Obscenity, an article by Dean Lockhart and Professor McClure of the University of Minnesota Law School. Those authors conclude that Roth,
. . laid down two — and only two — constitutional requirements for determining what is obscene. The two requirements are, of course, that material must be judged as a whole, not by its parts, and that it must be judged by its impact on average persons, not the weak and susceptible.” 15
The authors point out other concepts which they believe may be developed in future decisions.
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Fairchild, J.
The Statute.
This action was brought under sec. 269.S6S, Stats., entitled, “Declaratory judgments against obscene matter.” The issue is whether the matter complained of is obscene. The word “obscene” is not defined. The statute does provide that,
“. . . The dominant effect of the whole of such matter shall be determinative of whether said matter is obscene.” 1
The statute directs the court,
“. . . subject to the ordinary rules of evidence in civil actions [to] . . . receive the testimony of experts and evidence as to the literary, cultural or educational character of said matter and as to the manner and form of its production, publication, advertisement, distribution and exhibition. " 2
Where there is a jury trial and the jury finds the matter obscene, the court is directed to enter a judgment of obscen[138]*138ity unless the finding is contrary to law or to the great weight and clear preponderance of the evidence.3
Under certain circumstances, a judgment of obscenity is made admissible in evidence in a criminal prosecution for publication or transfer of obscene matter, or possession thereof for purpose of sale,4 or in a prosecution for knowing possession of obscene printed matter or other materials.5
In State v. Chobot 6 we reviewed a conviction of possession of obscene written matter for sale. We there treated the definition of the word “obscene” in our statutes as the equivalent of the definition enunciated by the supreme court of the United States, and often referred to as the Roth test.7 We approved the use of the Roth test by the circuit court, sustained its finding that the materials involved were obscene, and decided that as so applied our statute did not offend the state constitutional guaranty of free speech, writing, and publication 8 nor the federal constitutional guaranty of freedom of speech or press against state action.9
In the case now before us, the application of our statute dealing with obscene material, of the state constitutional guaranty of free speech, writing, and publication, and of the similar federal constitutional guaranty against state action, respectively, again turns upon the question of what is ob[139]*139scene. We approach that question with the thought that it is desirable that the definition of obscenity be the same for all three purposes. We observe, however, that a state may permit greater freedom of speech and press than the Fourteenth amendment would require, although it may not permit less. We recognize Roth and other decisions of the supreme court of the United States as completely binding upon us in determining whether the state violates the Fourteenth amendment in proscribing or suppressing a particular piece of material as obscene. Such decisions are eminent and highly persuasive, but not controlling, authority, on the meaning of the term “obscene” in our own statute,
We think that although the obscenity issue is critical, and appears to be identical, in all three questions, i.e., applicability of state statute, claim of state constitutional protection, and claim of federal constitutional protection, we must logically determine the state issues first. Thus in a case where all three questions are raised, we necessarily decide all three, including the federal question, in affirming a conviction or other judgment based on a finding of obscenity. [140]*140This was true in Chobot. Where, however, we reverse a finding of obscenity, we, logically, have decided only state questions and not the federal, unless we were to say that under the particular circumstances the finding would stand, but for-the existence of the Fourteenth amendment.
The Roth Test.
The capsule statement of the Roth test of obscenity is as follows: “Whether to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material taken as a whole appeals to prurient interest.” 11
The court equates material which deals with sex in a manner appealing to prurient interest as “material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts” and quotes a dictionary definition of “prurient” as follows: “. . . Itching; longing; uneasy with desire or longing; of persons, having itching, morbid, or lascivious longings; of desire, curiosity, or propensity, lewd. . . .” 12
The court approved the standards applied by the trial courts in the cases under review (Roth and Alberts) 13 although not expressed in the same terms as the capsule statement. In Roth, the jury had been instructed: “ ‘The words “obscene, lewd and lascivious” as used in the law, signify that form of immorality which has relation to sexual impurity and has a tendency to excite lustful thoughts.’ ” (p. 486.) And that “ ‘The test in each case is the effect of the book, picture or publication considered as a whole, not upon any particular class, but upon all those whom it is likely to reach. In other words, you determine its impact upon the average person in the community. The books, pictures and circulars must be judged as a whole, in their [141]*141entire context, and you are not to consider detached or separate portions in reaching a conclusion.’ ” (p. 490.) In Alberts the trial judge indicated that as the trier of facts, he was judging each item as a whole as it would affect the normal person.
The court also appeared to endorse the definition of the American Law Institute, Model Penal Code, sec. 207.10(2) (Tentative Draft No. 6, p. 1, 1957) :
“A thing is obscene if, considered as a whole, its predominant appeal is to prurient interest, i.e., a shameful or morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excretion, and if it goes substantially beyond customary limits of candor in description or representation of such matters.”
The court also said: “Obscene material is material which deals with sex in a manner appealing to prurient interest.” 14
There are several areas in which we, as well as others, have found the Roth test difficult to interpret. An excellent analysis of the Roth decision is contained in Censorship of Obscenity, an article by Dean Lockhart and Professor McClure of the University of Minnesota Law School. Those authors conclude that Roth,
. . laid down two — and only two — constitutional requirements for determining what is obscene. The two requirements are, of course, that material must be judged as a whole, not by its parts, and that it must be judged by its impact on average persons, not the weak and susceptible.” 15
The authors point out other concepts which they believe may be developed in future decisions. Among other questions raised is whether and to what extent the category of the obscene will include material which is not “hard-core pornography.” 15a It has been suggested that four per [142]*142curiam decisions of the supreme court of the United States following Roth make it “clear that the court was applying the constitutional guarantees of freedom of expression to confine obscenity censorship within very narrow limits indeed.” 15b
One portion of the Roth decision which has been the subject of controversy, and which is of importance in dealing with the case before us, is the extent to which the seriousness of an author’s purpose, the social importance of. the idea expressed, or the artistic quality of expression is to be weighed in determining whether a work is obscene under the test.
The court said:
“All ideas having even the slightest redeeming social importance — unorthodox ideas, controversial ideas, even ideas hateful to the prevailing climate of opinion — have the full protection of the guaranties, unless excludable because they encroach upon the limited area of more important interests. But implicit in the history of the First Amendment is the rejection of obscenity as utterly without redeeming social importance. ... We hold that obscenity is not within the area of constitutionally protected speech or press.” 16
Where a literary work of serious purpose which can reasonably be said to be a portrayal of truth or to express a social or philosophical idea is couched in language, or conveyed by the relation of incidents, of a type which would [143]*143be obscene in another context, do the guaranties protect it, or does the nature of the language and of the incidents of the plot permit its suppression? We do not understand the quoted language as meaning that particular material can be determined to be obscene without considering the purposes, ideas, or artistic quality of the work. We can only conclude that under the capsule statement of the Roth test, the question of whether the work is obscene is to be answered in the process of identifying the dominant theme and the degree of its appeal to the prurient interest. A balancing of factors is undoubtedly necessary in the application of the test, and we are of the opinion that where a work of apparent serious purpose is involved, the scales will not readily be tipped toward the determination of obscenity. Although we understand that a literary work of some quality was involved in the Roth Case we understand that its merits were not before the supreme court for procedural reasons.17
.Sec. 269.565,. Stats., contemplates such balancing of factors. It directs the taking of evidence as to literary, cultural, or educational character of the material under scrutiny, as well as providing that the dominant effect of the whole shall be determinative.
The supreme judicial court of Massachusetts, in holding Tropic of Cancer not obscene, expressed the balancing concept as follows:
“We think, in the light of the decisions reviewed above, that the First Amendment protects material which has value because of ideas, news, or artistic, literary, or scientific attributes. If the appeal of material (taken as a whole) to adults is not predominantly prurient, adults cannot be denied the material. When the public risks of suppressing ideas are weighed against the risks of permitting their circulation, the guaranties of the First Amendment must be [144]*144given controlling effect. The dangers of subjective judgments in the matter of censorship lead to a strong presupposition against suppression.” 18
The Book, Tropic of Cancer.
The book, written by Henry Miller, was originally published in Paris in 1934. Grove Press published it in the United States in 1961, first in a hard cover (318 pages, priced at $7.50) and later in a paperback (288 pages, priced at 95 cents). The covers contain no pictorial or similar eye-catching material indicating that the book has spicy content. A Milwaukee distributor of paperbacked books had made the paperback edition available to its 580 dealers. A number of the dealers including supermarkets and most drugstores declined to stock this book. Some 2,400 were sold to stands' at traffic points, department stores, large bookstores, a few drugstores, and smoke shops.
The book is autobiographical in form. It was the opinion of one of the expert witnesses that much of it is drawn from actual experience, although some of the characters were probably invented. It could be called a pseudonovel. Virtually all the witnesses agreed that the book demonstrates substantial ability to write.
The author is represented as an American living in Paris in the depression years about 1930. He considers himself an artist. He has little money and drifts from place to place in the city, sometimes performing service in return for a place to live, sometimes not, and holds a job for one or two periods. He is an iconoclast. He idealizes nothing, and sees life in its crudest terms. He seeks real meaning, but does not appear to find it.
He and those around him have frequent and casual sex experiences. The book contains many references to and [145]*145some descriptions of these episodes. A few of them involve perversions. Some involve prostitutes. Some of the participants are victims of venereal diseases and others are fearful of them. The book appears to be a truthful portrayal of experience, though unsavory. One of the dominant impressions from it is that lives oriented as those of its characters were empty of meaning or value.
Much of the language in the book would be offensive to many. References to the sexual episodes, to other bodily functions, and to women are made in short English words of ancient origin and wide, but not often printed, usage, classified by the dictionary 19 as vulgar or, in one or two instances, obscene.
But it seems a reasonable conclusion that the use of crude language contributed to the force with which the author expressed his ideas. Although some of these words would not be tolerated in our society if inflicted on unwilling listeners, an offended reader need only close the book in order to escape.19a
Although some of the passages in the book appeal to prurient interest, or excite lustful thoughts, to some degree, the overall impression, both from the episodes referred to and the language employed is one of surfeit. Considered as a whole, the book does not, in our judgment, appeal to prurient interest.
One of the expert witnesses thought the book was valuable as a piece of literature “because it purges the reader of prurient interests.” One reviewer considered that reading the book may be “an emetic experience.”
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The Expert Testimony.
The witnesses differed on the ultimate issue of obscenity as well as on the subjects, referred to in sec. 269.565 (4), Stats., of the book’s literary, cultural, or educational character. Appellant’s experts included a professor of English at the University of Wisconsin — Madison, a professor of psychology at the University of Wisconsin — Milwaukee, an assistant professor of English at University of Wisconsin— Milwaukee, and the reference librarian at University of Wisconsin — Milwaukee. All considered that the book had some meaning or value, and although hard put to express the theme (as we also are), were of the opinion that the dominant theme did not appeal to prurient interests. The district attorney’s experts included clergymen of three faiths, a man with professional experience in religious education, and a deputy probation officer. In their opinion the book did appeal to the prurient interests of the average man in Milwaukee, although one or more of them believed the book would have cultural or historical value for persons interested in those fields and having more than average education.
The Critics.
It was shown that a number of reviews of Tropic of Cancer have been published in various newspapers and periodicals. Although the opinions differ, and were not expressed in terms of the Roth test, the evidence indicates that critics of recognized stature, writing in responsible publications, have considered the book as a work of some substance and importance.
The Decision of the Circuit Court.
The only specific finding was stated in terms of the Roth test. In a memorandum decision, the court referred to the [147]*147great number of instances of use of vulgar terms, and the sexual episodes. He considered that some passages had merit, but that the bad dominates the good. He concluded “that the book is repugnant to decency and the moral standards of the community, and has no literary, cultural, social or educational value in this area.”
The Proper Role of the Reviewing Court.
We have already referred to the provision of our statute which spells out the standard which a trial judge must apply in testing the sufficiency of a jury finding of obscenity: The finding must not be contrary to law or to the great weight and clear preponderance of the evidence. This is the standard normally applied by this court in reviewing, upon appeal, a finding made by a judge as the trier of fact, in the absence of a jury.
In Roth, the court’s quotation, with apparent approval, of the trial court’s instruction that the jurors were the exclusive judges of the conscience of the community,20 and the reference to “the average person, applying contemporary community standards” 21 suggest that the supreme court of the United States might, within some limits, consider a jury finding of obscenity final, although the court did not spell out the formula it might apply to determine whether a jury finding would be adequately supported by the record.
In Chobot we followed the finding-not-against-the-evidence approach.22
There is a view that when the constitutional protection is claimed, the judge or appellate court must make an independent review of the material to determine whether it is [148]*148obscene, and the concept that obscenity is a fact issue has been criticized.23
That a judgment of obscenity is not a fact issue of the ordinary type is obvious. Issues of legal and constitutional interpretation dominate the process of determination. Upon the one hand is the desirability of according as much finality as is reasonable to decisions of the tribunal of first instance, and on the other the undesirability of a formula which puts the decision of one jury or one judge upon a difficult constitutional issue beyond the reach of reconsideration.
The supreme judicial court of Massachusetts has resolved this dilemma by reliance upon the rule that where the evidence is documentary, the appellate court is not bound by the inferences drawn therefrom by the trial court.24 We have recognized a similar rule.25
Although there was more conflict in the expert testimony in this case than there appears to have been in the Massachusetts case, we deem the reading of the book to constitute the most weighty factor in the determination, and do not consider ourselves bound by the decision of the trial court, based on his reading of it.
We have great respect for the opinion of the learned trial court, as we have for the opinions of our brethren who agree with him. Nonetheless, it is our opinion that he gave too much weight to the author’s use of vulgar language, [149]*149hereinbefore referred to, and to the fact that the incidents related violate our standards of acceptable conduct, and insufficient consideration to the fact that the book has commanded serious attention as a literary work of some importance.
The Reference to “Community Standards.”
As previously noted, the Roth test seems to put the standard of obscenity in terms of the “average person,' applying contemporary community standards.” Plaintiff considers that the term “community” in the test refers to “an indistinct geographic area part of and attached to a metropolitan center” such as Milwaukee. Upon the trial he objected to an expression of opinion in terms of the Roth test by a professor of English who lives in a different community within the state.
The meaning of the reference to community standards in Roth has been questioned, and it has been suggested that the term has no reference to any locality, but rather to standards of society as a whole.26 The resort to community standards seems more relevant to a determination of whether a book or other material is “patently offensive” than to a determination of whether it appeals to prurient interests.
We conclude that for the purposes of our statute, no distinction ought to be made between the standards of different communities within the state. We doubt whether standards which are relevant to the question of obscenity differ significantly from one locality to another in Wisconsin. Furthermore, our statute, sec. 269.56S (6), Stats., permits a judgment of obscenity to be used in a criminal trial of any person who was served with notice of it before the alleged violation. Under it a judgment obtained in [150]*150Milwaukee county could be so used anywhere m the state. Clearly this should not be so if the particular matter could be obscene in one area and not in another.
Other Decisions on Tropic of Cancer.
We must acknowledge that courts have differed in their judgment of this book.
The supreme judicial court of Massachusetts (by a 4 — 3 decision, as is this one in our court) determined the book not obscene.27
The United States court of appeals, Ninth circuit, determined the book obscene, before, however, the enunciation of the Roth test, and employed a standard which appears somewhat different.28 The appellate department of the California superior court has held the book obscene.28a The United States supreme court has agreed to review this decision.28b
We are informed that trial courts, in unreported cases, have held the book not obscene 29 and obscene.30
Summary.
Tropic of Cancer has received the serious attention of critics as an important book,31 though there is controversy [151]*151as to its merit. It appears to be a truthful portrayal of an unsavory segment of life. The author has frequently used short vulgar words which are not often printed and which are offensive to many. The coarse language and the blunt descriptions of normal and abnormal sexual transactions can reasonably be thought to contribute to the effectiveness of the portrayal. Some of the episodes, taken alone, appeal to prurient interests, but, in our opinion, the dominant theme of the book, taken as a whole, does not.
Our reading of the book has engendered no enthusiasm. We do not endorse it. Our judgment will preserve its access to the market place where Wisconsin readers may buy it if they choose. In terms of the good that this particular book is likely to accomplish, we probably do no great thing in preserving it. Our function, however, is not to determine the quality of a book. Our duty is to respect and enforce in full measure the freedom of expression guaranteed by state and federal constitutions.
By the Court. — Judgment reversed, cause remanded with directions to dismiss the complaint.
The court of appeals of New York took the position that in construing the New York statute it was not bound by Roth. It concluded that the statute applies only to “hard-core pornography.” People v. Richmond County News, Inc. (1961), 9 N. Y. (2d) 578, 586, 175 N. E. (2d) 681, 685.