PATRICK E. HIGGINBOTHAM, Circuit Judge:
The Bank of Commerce of Shreveport, Louisiana appeals from a judgment holding it liable for the face amount of a series of checks it cashed under forged endorsements. We must decide whether Louisiana law affords the payee of such checks a claim against the cashing bank, and if it does, whether the checks must have first come into his possession before that cause of action accrues. We conclude that such a payee may bring suit so long as he once had possession of the checks or the maker has actually or constructively delivered them to him. We reverse the decision of the district court and remand the case for consideration of other issues pretermitted by its contrary resolution of the point we decide today.
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The 38 stipulated facts on which this case was tried tell the story of H. Wade Crouch, who was both an insurance agent and a thief. He combined skills from both professions in an interesting scheme which can be summarized briefly as follows:
From 1967 to 1980, Crouch was employed in various positions by the New York Life Insurance Company and Lincoln National Insurance Company. During that time he
sold policies of life insurance to Stan’s Record Service, Inc. and Stan’s Record Service of Florida, Inc., hereinafter “Stan’s,” insuring the lives of certain executives of those corporations.
After these policies were issued, Crouch prepared and forwarded to the insurers a series of fraudulent applications for loans against the cash value of the policies. On each loan application Crouch forged the signatures of Stanley J. Lewis and Francis R. Lewis, the president and vice-president of both corporations. The insurers accepted the applications and sent checks payable to Stan’s, not
to
Stan’s, but to Crouch, because Crouch had supplied the insurance companies with an address different from the actual address of the corporate payees. When Crouch received the checks, he forged the Lewises’ endorsements on them, then added his own true endorsement, and deposited the checks into his personal savings account at the Bank of Commerce.
Each of the checks deposited to Crouch’s account was presented to an officer of the Bank for approval of the deposit, pursuant to the Bank’s practice of requiring such approval on all instruments in excess of $500.00. The Bank, however, never contacted the corporate payees to verify the authority of the endorsers and did not require Crouch to present evidence of the propriety of the endorsements, despite the fact that the checks were made out to the corporate entities and endorsed in the name of the corporate officers only.
The Bank officers knew that Crouch was a personal friend of Stanley Lewis and that he wrote insurance policies for Stan’s, and thus wrongly assumed that Crouch had authority to cash checks on behalf of Stan’s.
Crouch’s scheme went undetected for seven years, but for reasons not told to us it was discovered in 1980. New York Life immediately credited the cash value of all loans to Stan’s policy accounts and became subrogated to Stan’s rights against all parties responsible for the fraudulent loss. Lincoln National Insurance Company did the same. Lincoln National was in turn reimbursed by Lincoln National Bank, which had paid the Lincoln National checks, and Lincoln National Bank obtained the insurer’s subrogation rights. New York Life and Lincoln National Bank then sued the Bank of Commerce in 1981.
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The district court held the Bank liable to the plaintiffs under La.Rev.Stat.Ann. § 10:3-419 (West 1983), which provides in pertinent part: “[W]hen a person pays an instrument on a forged endorsement, he is liable to the true owner.” The court rejected the Bank’s argument that Section 3-419 did not change prior Louisiana law, which would have barred recovery on these facts, and after considering the Bank’s proffered defenses of prescription,
contributory negligence,
and the “imposter” or “ficticious
payee” rule,
dismissed them as inapplicable. Judgment was entered for New York Life in the amount of $123,262.00 and for Lincoln in the amount of $54,397.49. The Bank renews all of its arguments on appeal.
II
We first address whether Stan’s, as payee of the checks cashed by the Bank of Commerce under Crouch’s forged endorsements, has a claim against the Bank under Louisiana law. This is an issue of no small importance. Although Stan’s is not a party to this suit, both New York Life and Lincoln recovered below, not in their own capacities,
but as subrogees of Stan’s.
We conclude that although the Louisiana law applicable to this case was substantially changed by the legislature’s adoption of the Uniform Commercial Code, on these unique facts, Stan’s had no claim against the Bank.
Before Louisiana adopted Articles 3 and 4 of the U.C.C. in 1975, the law of the state was clear that a payee of a check cashed under a forged endorsement had a cause of action against only the drawer of the check; he could not sue the depository or cashing bank, a bank in the collection stream, or the drawee/payor bank. The Louisiana Supreme Court explained the rule in its decision in
Smith v. Louisiana Bank & Trust Co.,
272 So.2d 678 (La.1973):
[T]he payee’s action is properly against the drawer of the check because____“the check has never in reality been paid.” Just as the payee has a cause of action against the drawer, the drawer has a cause of action against the drawee to compel the removal of an unauthorized debit. The drawee, in turn, has an action against the collecting bank on its endorsements. In turn, the collecting bank has an action against the cashing bank on its endorsement. The cashing bank must then go against the forger to recover the funds.
Id.
at 683.
The required path of actions was undeniably circuitous, but it eased the problem presented by defenses available to the parties in a commercial chain. Nonetheless, the rule followed in
Smith
was contrary to the weight of then existing authority on the point and was rooted primarily in Louisiana’s long adherence to the Uniform Negotiable Instruments Laws.
See id.
at 684 (Tate, J., concurring).
The rule of U.C.C. section 3-419 is quite different from that announced in the
Smith
decision. The section provides:
(1) An instrument is converted when
(c) it is paid on a forged indorsement.
(2) In an action against a drawee under Subsection (1) the measure of the drawee’s liability is the face amount of the instrument. In any other action under Subsection (1) the measure of liability is presumed to be the face amount of the instrument.
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PATRICK E. HIGGINBOTHAM, Circuit Judge:
The Bank of Commerce of Shreveport, Louisiana appeals from a judgment holding it liable for the face amount of a series of checks it cashed under forged endorsements. We must decide whether Louisiana law affords the payee of such checks a claim against the cashing bank, and if it does, whether the checks must have first come into his possession before that cause of action accrues. We conclude that such a payee may bring suit so long as he once had possession of the checks or the maker has actually or constructively delivered them to him. We reverse the decision of the district court and remand the case for consideration of other issues pretermitted by its contrary resolution of the point we decide today.
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The 38 stipulated facts on which this case was tried tell the story of H. Wade Crouch, who was both an insurance agent and a thief. He combined skills from both professions in an interesting scheme which can be summarized briefly as follows:
From 1967 to 1980, Crouch was employed in various positions by the New York Life Insurance Company and Lincoln National Insurance Company. During that time he
sold policies of life insurance to Stan’s Record Service, Inc. and Stan’s Record Service of Florida, Inc., hereinafter “Stan’s,” insuring the lives of certain executives of those corporations.
After these policies were issued, Crouch prepared and forwarded to the insurers a series of fraudulent applications for loans against the cash value of the policies. On each loan application Crouch forged the signatures of Stanley J. Lewis and Francis R. Lewis, the president and vice-president of both corporations. The insurers accepted the applications and sent checks payable to Stan’s, not
to
Stan’s, but to Crouch, because Crouch had supplied the insurance companies with an address different from the actual address of the corporate payees. When Crouch received the checks, he forged the Lewises’ endorsements on them, then added his own true endorsement, and deposited the checks into his personal savings account at the Bank of Commerce.
Each of the checks deposited to Crouch’s account was presented to an officer of the Bank for approval of the deposit, pursuant to the Bank’s practice of requiring such approval on all instruments in excess of $500.00. The Bank, however, never contacted the corporate payees to verify the authority of the endorsers and did not require Crouch to present evidence of the propriety of the endorsements, despite the fact that the checks were made out to the corporate entities and endorsed in the name of the corporate officers only.
The Bank officers knew that Crouch was a personal friend of Stanley Lewis and that he wrote insurance policies for Stan’s, and thus wrongly assumed that Crouch had authority to cash checks on behalf of Stan’s.
Crouch’s scheme went undetected for seven years, but for reasons not told to us it was discovered in 1980. New York Life immediately credited the cash value of all loans to Stan’s policy accounts and became subrogated to Stan’s rights against all parties responsible for the fraudulent loss. Lincoln National Insurance Company did the same. Lincoln National was in turn reimbursed by Lincoln National Bank, which had paid the Lincoln National checks, and Lincoln National Bank obtained the insurer’s subrogation rights. New York Life and Lincoln National Bank then sued the Bank of Commerce in 1981.
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The district court held the Bank liable to the plaintiffs under La.Rev.Stat.Ann. § 10:3-419 (West 1983), which provides in pertinent part: “[W]hen a person pays an instrument on a forged endorsement, he is liable to the true owner.” The court rejected the Bank’s argument that Section 3-419 did not change prior Louisiana law, which would have barred recovery on these facts, and after considering the Bank’s proffered defenses of prescription,
contributory negligence,
and the “imposter” or “ficticious
payee” rule,
dismissed them as inapplicable. Judgment was entered for New York Life in the amount of $123,262.00 and for Lincoln in the amount of $54,397.49. The Bank renews all of its arguments on appeal.
II
We first address whether Stan’s, as payee of the checks cashed by the Bank of Commerce under Crouch’s forged endorsements, has a claim against the Bank under Louisiana law. This is an issue of no small importance. Although Stan’s is not a party to this suit, both New York Life and Lincoln recovered below, not in their own capacities,
but as subrogees of Stan’s.
We conclude that although the Louisiana law applicable to this case was substantially changed by the legislature’s adoption of the Uniform Commercial Code, on these unique facts, Stan’s had no claim against the Bank.
Before Louisiana adopted Articles 3 and 4 of the U.C.C. in 1975, the law of the state was clear that a payee of a check cashed under a forged endorsement had a cause of action against only the drawer of the check; he could not sue the depository or cashing bank, a bank in the collection stream, or the drawee/payor bank. The Louisiana Supreme Court explained the rule in its decision in
Smith v. Louisiana Bank & Trust Co.,
272 So.2d 678 (La.1973):
[T]he payee’s action is properly against the drawer of the check because____“the check has never in reality been paid.” Just as the payee has a cause of action against the drawer, the drawer has a cause of action against the drawee to compel the removal of an unauthorized debit. The drawee, in turn, has an action against the collecting bank on its endorsements. In turn, the collecting bank has an action against the cashing bank on its endorsement. The cashing bank must then go against the forger to recover the funds.
Id.
at 683.
The required path of actions was undeniably circuitous, but it eased the problem presented by defenses available to the parties in a commercial chain. Nonetheless, the rule followed in
Smith
was contrary to the weight of then existing authority on the point and was rooted primarily in Louisiana’s long adherence to the Uniform Negotiable Instruments Laws.
See id.
at 684 (Tate, J., concurring).
The rule of U.C.C. section 3-419 is quite different from that announced in the
Smith
decision. The section provides:
(1) An instrument is converted when
(c) it is paid on a forged indorsement.
(2) In an action against a drawee under Subsection (1) the measure of the drawee’s liability is the face amount of the instrument. In any other action under Subsection (1) the measure of liability is presumed to be the face amount of the instrument.
(3) Subject to the provisions of this title concerning restrictive indorsements a representative, including a depositary or collecting bank, who has in good faith and in accordance with the reasonable commercial standards applicable to the
business of such representative dealt with an instrument or its proceeds on behalf of one who was not the true owner is not liable in conversion or otherwise to the true owner beyond the amount of any proceeds remaining in his hands.
Section 3-419(1) plainly authorizes recovery by the payee of a check against a drawee bank that pays the item on a forged endorsement, and although the import of section 3-419(3) is less clear, it at the least provides the payee a right of action against the depository bank and the banks in the collection stream to the extent that any of these banks still retain proceeds from the check or have failed to follow reasonable commercial standards in handling it.
See
J. White & R. Summers,
Uniform Commercial Code
§ 15-4, 589-94 (1980).
Louisiana adopted section 3-419 of the Code along with most of Articles 3 and 4 in 1975, but modified the provision slightly to reflect the fact that the civil law does not recognize the common law concept of “conversion.” Thus, subsection (1) reads: “(1) When ... a person pays an instrument on a forged indorsement, he is liable to the true owner.” The statute is in all other respects identical to the U.C.C. version, save for the deletion of the phrase “in conversion or otherwise” from subsection (3). We agree with the district court that in light of the legislature’s enactment of section 3-419, the rule of
Smith v. Louisiana Bank and Trust Co.
is no longer good law.
The Bank urges us to construe section 3-419 in light of
Smith
and to hold that a payee has no direct right of action against a depository bank when it pays his check on a forged endorsement. The Bank relies on the deletion of the “conversion” language from Louisiana’s version of section 3-419 and the decision of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court in
Stone & Webster Engineering Corp. v. First National Bank & Trust Co.,
345 Mass. 1, 184 N.E.2d 358 (1962). In
Stone & Webster
the court, construing U.C.C. section 3-419, denied the drawer of a cheek a direct right of action against a collecting bank that cashed the check over a forged endorsement. The
Stone & Webster
court reasoned, as had the Louisiana Supreme Court in
Smith,
that denying a direct action would facilitate the assertion of defenses available to the various parties in the commercial chain.
We find these arguments unpersuasive. First, despite the deletion of the “conversion” language in section 3-419, the provision could scarcely be more plain that a cashing, collecting or drawee bank who pays a check on a forged endorsement is liable to its true owner. Nor does the decision in
Stone & Webster
give us pause, for the Massachusetts court was concerned with a cause of action asserted by a
drawer
of a check cashed on a forged endorsement rather than one asserted by the payee of the check. Substantially different policy concerns are at stake when the drawer, rather than the payee, brings a direct action.
See
J. White & R. Summers,
supra,
§ 15-4, 586-88.
See also
Annot., 99 A.L. R.2d 637 (1965) (collecting cases and describing split of authority on drawer’s right to recover against depository or collecting banks).
A recent decision by an intermediate appellate court in Louisiana confirms our conclusion that section 3-419 overturned the
Smith
decision. In
Top Crop Seed & Supply Co. v. Bank of Southwest Louisiana,
457 So.2d 273 (La.App. 3d Cir.1984), the court held that section 3-419(1) permits the payee or other true owner of an instrument paid on a forged endorsement to bring a direct action against the cashing or depository bank.
See id.
at 277. Although it has been argued that subdivision (3) of section 3-419, quoted
supra,
limits the circumstances when a depository or collecting bank may be sued,
see
J. White and R. Summers,
supra
at 591-94, the Louisiana court construed that part of the statute as an affirmative defense:
This provision would appear to limit the liability of a bank, other than the drawee (or payor) bank, which cashes under a forged endorsement, provided that such bank has (a) acted in good faith and (b) met the standards of reasonable conduct
of the banking community. It is important to note that this provision would
not
prevent suit by the true owner against the collecting bank (i.e. the limiting provision does not remove the cause of action granted by section 3-419(1)); rather, this provision enables a collecting bank to raise
as a defense
its good faith and reasonableness.
Id.
at 276-77 n. 3 (emphasis original). Such a construction of section 3-419(3) appears sound to us and has been adopted by other states as well.
See, e.g., Citizens State Bank v. National Surety Corporation,
199 Colo. 497, 612 P.2d 70 (1980).
We conclude that the law in Louisiana today is substantially different from that announced in the
Smith
decision twelve years ago. Under section 3-419 as adopted in Louisiana, a payee or other true owner of an instrument that is cashed under a forged endorsement may sue directly the drawee/payor bank, the depository/cashing bank, or any of the banks in the collection chain. The latter two defendants have available the affirmative defenses described in section 3-419(3), but the liability of the drawee bank is absolute.
We nevertheless face another problem in applying the principles of section 3-419 to a payee such as Stan’s, who never had possession of the improperly cashed checks. The law as we have broadly summarized it above suggests that
all
payees of checks are “true owners” of the instruments under section 3-419. The peculiar facts of this case, however, cast doubt on that assumption. Otherwise stated, we think there is a substantial question whether Stan’s should qualify as a “true owner” of the checks at issue here when they were never in its possession and indeed, when Stan’s never knew of the checks’ existence until many years after their issuance.
The few appellate decisions on point differ. The courts of Florida, Kentucky, California and Illinois have required possession by the payee, or at least actual or constructive delivery to him, before allowing him to maintain an action such as that asserted here.
City National Bank of Miami v. Wernick,
368 So.2d 934 (Fla.Dist.Ct.App. 1979) (construing U.C.C. § 3-419);
Winn v. First Bank of Irvington,
581 S.W.2d 21 (Ky.App.1978) (same);
Jones v. Bank of America Nat’l Trust & Savings Ass’n,
49 Cal.App.2d 115, 121 P.2d 94 (1942) (pre-Code law);
Nelson v. Kaspar American State Bank,
364 Ill. 121, 4 N.E.2d 14 (same) (1936). The courts of Georgia, Indiana, and Alabama have rejected that requirement.
Thornton & Co. v. Gwinnett Bank & Trust Co.,
151 Ga.App. 641, 260 S.W.2d 765 (1979) (construing U.C.C. § 3-419);
Allen v. M. Mendelsohn & Son,
207 Ala. 527, 93 So. 416 (1922) (pre-Code law);
Indiana National Bank v. Holtsclaw,
98 Ind. 85 (1884) (same).
See generally
Annot., 23 A.L.R. 4th 855 § 3 (1983); Annot., 100 A.L.R.2d 670 § 5 (1965).
The courts requiring possession have reasoned that until a check or other instrument is delivered to a payee, he is not a holder and has no rights in it and should be relegated to a suit against his drawer on the underlying obligation. As explained by the Court of Appeals of Kentucky in
Winn:
“Here, the payee of th[e] check ... is not given relief because he can generally have the alternative of suing on the underlying obligation of the check____ In the absence of physical delivery, the payee cannot come into the ordinary channel of commerce so as to give it standing to sue.” 581 S.W.2d at 23. The courts that have rejected the possession requirement reason that the inclusion of a party as payee of a check gives him a right to possession that is sufficient to support an action for conversion.
We think the requirement that a check must come into the possession of a payee before he becomes its “true owner” under section 3-419 is one which the Louisiana courts would adopt if presented the question. First, it has been long established in Louisiana and elsewhere that a payee of a negotiable instrument must have the instrument in his possession before he becomes a holder.
See, e.g., Freeland v. Carmouche,
177 La. 395, 148 So.
658 (La.1933);
see generally
J. White & R. Summers,
supra,
§ 14-3. To allow a payee of a check to recover under section 3-419 as its true owner when he never had possession of the instrument would be in derogation of that requirement, and would recognize rights of the payee in the check where previously he had none apart from the underlying obligation it represented.
There are practical considerations as well. Where the check has never come into the possession of its payee, there is a greater chance that the forged endorsement is traceable to the negligence of the drawer, an issue which could not easily be litigated in a direct suit between the payee of a check and the depository, collecting or drawee bank, assuming that issue could be litigated at all in such suits. This consideration has prompted commentators to favor the majority view that possession of the check is required.
See
J. White & R. Summers,
supra,
§ 15-4 at 588.
We hold that Stan’s was not a “true owner” of the checks appropriated by Crouch and cashed by the Bank under his forged endorsements, or at least not a “true owner” for the purpose of section 3-419. We do not suggest that actual physical possession is required, but actual or constructive delivery of the checks must occur.
Here the mailing of the checks by the insurance companies to Stan’s at the false address provided by Crouch, a third party who was not Stan’s agent or employee, was not delivery to Stan’s and did not confer upon Stan’s an ownership interest in the checks.
In so holding, we do not resurrect the
Smith
decision in the face of its legislative interment in section 3-419, but rather recognize what we think the Louisiana courts would conclude is a needed limitation on the cause of action created by the statute. The rule will not defeat recovery by innocent victims such as Stan’s, but will instead direct their suits to the parties most likely responsible for the loss. In addition, the rule will prevent attempts by negligent drawers, such as the insurance companies here, to sidestep the issue of their negligence by subrogating to the rights of innocent payees or by persuading the payees to seek recovery directly from the banks who handled the checks.
Ill
Although we conclude that New York Life and Lincoln may not recover from the Bank as subrogees of Stan’s, we do not suggest that the Bank should necessarily escape liability here. Not only has the Bank cashed the checks at issue here over a forged endorsement; the manner in which it handled those checks was manifestly commercially unreasonable.
Because the district court allowed the plaintiffs to recover based on Stan’s rights as payee, it did not consider other possible theories of recovery raised by the pleadings and the defenses that may apply.
These include the question whether New York Life, as drawer of the improperly-cashed checks, may recover against the Bank under section 3-419 or as the beneficiary of the Bank’s warranties to New York Life’s drawee bank,
and whether La. Rev.Stat. § 10:4-406 bars some or all of the plaintiffs’ claims.
Such issues should be addressed by the district court in the first instance. We hold only that La.Rev.Stat. § 10:3-419 does not provide a cause of action for a payee of checks cashed under a forged endorsement where the checks have never come into his possession and have not been delivered to him, either actually or constructively.
REVERSED and REMANDED.