. Keller, P.J.',
announced the judgment of the Court and delivered an opinion in which
Keasler, Hervey and Richardson, JJ., joined.
We must decide whether the denial of 'closing argument at a community-supervision revocation proceeding is the sort of error that is exempt-from a harm analysis. We conclude that it is not, because the Supreme Court has not labeled it as structural. Consequently, we reverse the judgment of the court of appeals and remand the case for a harm analysis.
I. BACKGROUND
A. Trial
' A jury found appellant' guilty of sexual assault of a child under age seventeen and assessed a seiitence of ten years in prison and a $10,000 fine. Upon the recommendation of the jury, sentence was suspended and appellant was placed on community supervision for ten years.1
The State later filed a motion to revoke community supervision. Appellant pled “not true” to the allegations in the motion. After the parties presented testimony, the following occurred: . : .
[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Defense rests.
THE COURT: Rest?
[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Yes, Your Honor.
[PROSECUTOR]: State will close. '
[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Defense closes, Your Honor. Can we make a closing statement when the time comes, Your Honor?
THE COURT: Sir?
[410]*410[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Can I make a closing statement when the time comes?
[THE COURT]: I don’t need one.
The trial court then found allegations one, two, and five to be “not true” and allegations three and four to be “true.” The court revoked appellant’s community supervision and imposed the previously assessed sentence.
B. Appeal
One of appellant’s complaints on appeal was that the trial court erred by refusing to allow defense counsel to make a closing argument. The State responded that appellant had failed to preserve error. The court of appeals addressed and rejected the State’s contention with respect to preservation.2 Then, citing Herring v. New York3 and other cases, the court of appeals concluded that the trial court had violated appellant’s Sixth Amendment right to the effective assistance of counsel and his state constitutional right to be heard. In a section entitled “Reversible Error Presumed from Denial of Closing Argument,” the court of appeals concluded, without elaboration, that, “[b]ecause the error is constitutional and the effect of the denial of closing argument cannot be assessed, the error is reversible without any showing of harm.”4 The court of appeals reversed the trial court’s revocation judgment and remanded the case for a new trial on revocation.5
II. ANALYSIS
A. State’s Complaint
The State complains that the court of appeals erred in treating the refusal to allow closing argument as “structural error immune from a harmless error analysis” and that the court of appeals’s decision “is contrary to decisions of the United State’s Supreme Court and this Court defining what constitutes structural error.”6 The State argues that the United States Supreme Court “has not held that a probationer has a constitutional right to closing argument, much less that any such right to argument is structural.” The State claims that, while this Court “seems to have recognized” a state constitutional right to present closing argument in community-supervision revocation proceedings, under Black v. Romano7 and Gagnon v. Scarpelli,8 there is no federal constitutional right to present closing argument in community-supervision proceedings, and absent a federal constitutional right, there can be no structural error. Relying upon a footnote [411]*411in Herring v. New York9 the State also suggests that even the denial of a federal constitutional right to present closing argument is not structural error or, at least, not with respect to community-supervision revocation proceedings. The State further contends that the record in this case contains sufficient data upon which to assess whether the denial of closing argument was harmful, and the State concludes, after discussing the record, that the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
B. Standard for Determining Structural Error
In Cain v. State, we issued a broad mandate that nearly all errors would be subject to a harm analysis, with only limited exceptions as follows: “Except for certain federal constitutional errors labeled by the United States Supreme Court as ‘structural,’ no error ... is categorically immune to a harmless error analysis.”10 As the standard suggests, only federal constitutional errors can be “structural,” though most federal constitutional errors are not structural.11 Subsequent cases have reaffirmed that we treat error as “structural” only if the Supreme Court has labeled it as such.12
Even when an error that is not structural under Cain seems to defy proper analysis or the data seems to be insufficient to assess harm, an appellate court is “obligated to conduct a thorough analysis to determine the extent of harm caused by this error before reversing the conviction.” 13 For federal constitutional error that is not structural, the applicable harm analysis requires the appellate court to reverse unless it determines beyond a reasonable doubt that the error did not contribute to the defendant’s conviction or-punishment.14 If, after such analysis, the harm of the error simply cannot be assessed, then “the error will not be proven harmless beyond a reasonable doubt,” but “appellate courts should not automatically foreclose application of the harmless error test.”15
C. Not Labeled Structural
1. The Error at Issue is Herring Error
In Herring v. New York, the Supreme Court held that the right to the assistance of counsel guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment was violated when a trial court refused to allow counsel to make a closing argument at the guilt phase of trial.16 Prior precedent from this Court indicates that the refusal to allow defense counsel to make a closing argument at a community-supervision revocation proceeding is Herring error.17
[412]*4122. Herring Did Not Label. the Error Structural
Herring addressed only whether á constitutional violation occurred; it did not address whether to apply a harm analysis, and it did not cite Chapman v. California,18 the seminal case. establishing the federal constitutional harm standard.19
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. Keller, P.J.',
announced the judgment of the Court and delivered an opinion in which
Keasler, Hervey and Richardson, JJ., joined.
We must decide whether the denial of 'closing argument at a community-supervision revocation proceeding is the sort of error that is exempt-from a harm analysis. We conclude that it is not, because the Supreme Court has not labeled it as structural. Consequently, we reverse the judgment of the court of appeals and remand the case for a harm analysis.
I. BACKGROUND
A. Trial
' A jury found appellant' guilty of sexual assault of a child under age seventeen and assessed a seiitence of ten years in prison and a $10,000 fine. Upon the recommendation of the jury, sentence was suspended and appellant was placed on community supervision for ten years.1
The State later filed a motion to revoke community supervision. Appellant pled “not true” to the allegations in the motion. After the parties presented testimony, the following occurred: . : .
[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Defense rests.
THE COURT: Rest?
[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Yes, Your Honor.
[PROSECUTOR]: State will close. '
[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Defense closes, Your Honor. Can we make a closing statement when the time comes, Your Honor?
THE COURT: Sir?
[410]*410[DEFENSE COUNSEL]: Can I make a closing statement when the time comes?
[THE COURT]: I don’t need one.
The trial court then found allegations one, two, and five to be “not true” and allegations three and four to be “true.” The court revoked appellant’s community supervision and imposed the previously assessed sentence.
B. Appeal
One of appellant’s complaints on appeal was that the trial court erred by refusing to allow defense counsel to make a closing argument. The State responded that appellant had failed to preserve error. The court of appeals addressed and rejected the State’s contention with respect to preservation.2 Then, citing Herring v. New York3 and other cases, the court of appeals concluded that the trial court had violated appellant’s Sixth Amendment right to the effective assistance of counsel and his state constitutional right to be heard. In a section entitled “Reversible Error Presumed from Denial of Closing Argument,” the court of appeals concluded, without elaboration, that, “[b]ecause the error is constitutional and the effect of the denial of closing argument cannot be assessed, the error is reversible without any showing of harm.”4 The court of appeals reversed the trial court’s revocation judgment and remanded the case for a new trial on revocation.5
II. ANALYSIS
A. State’s Complaint
The State complains that the court of appeals erred in treating the refusal to allow closing argument as “structural error immune from a harmless error analysis” and that the court of appeals’s decision “is contrary to decisions of the United State’s Supreme Court and this Court defining what constitutes structural error.”6 The State argues that the United States Supreme Court “has not held that a probationer has a constitutional right to closing argument, much less that any such right to argument is structural.” The State claims that, while this Court “seems to have recognized” a state constitutional right to present closing argument in community-supervision revocation proceedings, under Black v. Romano7 and Gagnon v. Scarpelli,8 there is no federal constitutional right to present closing argument in community-supervision proceedings, and absent a federal constitutional right, there can be no structural error. Relying upon a footnote [411]*411in Herring v. New York9 the State also suggests that even the denial of a federal constitutional right to present closing argument is not structural error or, at least, not with respect to community-supervision revocation proceedings. The State further contends that the record in this case contains sufficient data upon which to assess whether the denial of closing argument was harmful, and the State concludes, after discussing the record, that the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.
B. Standard for Determining Structural Error
In Cain v. State, we issued a broad mandate that nearly all errors would be subject to a harm analysis, with only limited exceptions as follows: “Except for certain federal constitutional errors labeled by the United States Supreme Court as ‘structural,’ no error ... is categorically immune to a harmless error analysis.”10 As the standard suggests, only federal constitutional errors can be “structural,” though most federal constitutional errors are not structural.11 Subsequent cases have reaffirmed that we treat error as “structural” only if the Supreme Court has labeled it as such.12
Even when an error that is not structural under Cain seems to defy proper analysis or the data seems to be insufficient to assess harm, an appellate court is “obligated to conduct a thorough analysis to determine the extent of harm caused by this error before reversing the conviction.” 13 For federal constitutional error that is not structural, the applicable harm analysis requires the appellate court to reverse unless it determines beyond a reasonable doubt that the error did not contribute to the defendant’s conviction or-punishment.14 If, after such analysis, the harm of the error simply cannot be assessed, then “the error will not be proven harmless beyond a reasonable doubt,” but “appellate courts should not automatically foreclose application of the harmless error test.”15
C. Not Labeled Structural
1. The Error at Issue is Herring Error
In Herring v. New York, the Supreme Court held that the right to the assistance of counsel guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment was violated when a trial court refused to allow counsel to make a closing argument at the guilt phase of trial.16 Prior precedent from this Court indicates that the refusal to allow defense counsel to make a closing argument at a community-supervision revocation proceeding is Herring error.17
[412]*4122. Herring Did Not Label. the Error Structural
Herring addressed only whether á constitutional violation occurred; it did not address whether to apply a harm analysis, and it did not cite Chapman v. California,18 the seminal case. establishing the federal constitutional harm standard.19 Concluding that New York denied the defendant “the assistance of counsel that the Constitution guarantees,” the. Court vacated the case and remanded “for further proceedings ¡not' inconsistent 'with this opinion.”20 Herring made a number of statements about the importance of closing argument,21 and the Court suggested that it was nqt appropriate for the trial court to determine whether argument could potentially- affect the outcome of the proceedings.22 But none of these statements, which were all about whether a trial judge erred in. failing to permit closing ¡argument, speak to whether the error is immune from a harm analysis. So, even recognizing that Herring was decided before the term “structural” came into usage,23 nothing in that opinion can be construed as labeling the error it describes as structural.
This is true even though several of the federal circuits have read Herring as say[413]*413ing that error in denying closing argument is immune from a harm .analysis.24 The Supreme Court has only once come close to expressly addressing whether any of these lower courts are correctly reading Herring on this issue. In Glebe v. Frost, addressing the Ninth Circuit’s contention that the denial of closing argument is structural error, the Supreme Court skirted the question by distinguishing a restriction on argument from the complete denial of argument: “According to the Ninth Circuit, Herring further held that this denial amounts to structural error. We need not opine on the accuracy of that interpretation. For even assuming that Herring established that complete denial of summation amounts to structural error, it did not clearly establish that the restriction of summation also amounts to structural error.” 25 Given the Supreme Court’s silence on the matter when the issue was argued, and our. own reading of Herring, we,.cannot agree with those .courts that hold that Herring labeled the error as structural.
2. Subsequent Supreme Court Decisions Did Not Label the Error Structural
If Herring does not assign the “structural” label to the error, do subsequent Supreme Court cases? The Supreme Court has stated that only “a very limited class” of errors is structural, and it has not included Herring error when it has listed examples of structural error.26
The total denial of counsel at trial is listed as an example of structural error,27 but the Court has said that a violation of the right to counsel is “subject to harmless-error analysis ... unless the deprivation, by its very nature, cannot be harmless.”28 A violation of the right to counsel that merely affects the admission [414]*414of evidence, for example, is subject to a harm analysis.29 To be immune from a harm analysis, a violation of the right to counsel must “pervade the entire proceeding.” 30 Whether the denial of closing argument at a stage of trial is the sort of error that “pervades the entire proceeding” is a question the Supreme Court has not answered.
Appellant claims that Herring error was recognized as exempt from a harm analysis in United States v. Cronic.31 In Cronic, the Supreme Court cited Herring as an example of when prejudice is presumed for Sixth Amendment purposes.32 Prejudice is a component of an ineffective assistance of counsel violation under the Sixth Amendment.33 To even establish the existence of constitutional error as a result of ineffective assistance, a defendant must generally show prejudice.34 But there are some situations involving the absence of counsel or government interference with counsel’s representation in which a showing of prejiidice is not required, where the constitutional violation is established without it, and in those cases (such as Herring) prejudice is “presumed.”35
Is that presumption rebuttable? To conclude on the basis of Cronic and other “presumption of prejudice” cases that Herring error has been labeled “structural,” we would have to hold that the Supreme Court views the presumption as never re-buttable. That is, we would have to hold that the Supreme Court views a declaration that prejudice is presumed with respect to a certain type of error as the same thing as saying that that type of error is structural. Some federal circuits have made statements that seem to equate these concepts.36 However, some of these [415]*415circuits, and others, have suggested that these concepts are not entirely coextensive—that is, that some of these errors in which prejudice is presumed may nevertheless be subject to a harm analysis.37
The fact that the Supreme Court uses both terms would seem to indicate that they are not intended to mean the same thing. The Supreme Court has suggested some linkage between presuming prejudice and an error being structural,38 but it has not said that these categories are coextensive, despite the fact that it has several times given lists of examples of structural error.39 With respect to cases in which prejudice is presumed, the Supreme Court has said, “Prejudice in these circumstances is so likely that case-by-case inquiry into prejudice is not worth the cost.”40 The Court has also said that “a trial is unfair if [416]*416the accused ⅛ denied counsel at a critical stage of his trial.”41 But these statements were made in the context of assessing whether a constitutional violation had been shown and evince merely that, in certain circumstances, the Supreme Court does not wish to impose the burden of showing harm upon defendants-a burden that would otherwise be required by Strickland.42 That does not preclude the .presumption of harm being rebutted, if the record shows the harmlessness of the error to be obvious, which would have to be the case to satisfy the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard articulated in Chapman.43 Because the Supreme Court has not said that errors are always structural when prejudice is presumed, we disagree with appellant’s argument that calling Herring error a type of error in which prejudice is presumed is the same as labeling Herring error as structural.44 .
We conclude that. the Supreme Court has not labeled Herring error as structural—even at the guilt stage of trial, much less on revocation.45 This holding is [417]*417consistent -with our policy to generally require a harm analysis—precluding one only where the Supreme Court has expressly eschewed it—'and it is the cautious approach, because the constitutional harm standard is an onerous one for the State, and the nature of the error can be considered in determining whether harmlessness is in fact shown beyond a reasonable doubt.46 We reverse the judgment of the [418]*418court of appeals and remand the case to that court to conduct a harm analysis.
Yeary, J., filed a concurring opinion in which Newell and Keel, JJ., joined. Alcala, J., filed a dissenting opinion. Walker, J., concurred.