IN THE MATTER OF PC

608 S.E.2d 415, 168 N.C. App. 595, 2005 N.C. App. LEXIS 360
CourtCourt of Appeals of North Carolina
DecidedFebruary 15, 2005
DocketNo. COA04-83
StatusPublished

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IN THE MATTER OF PC, 608 S.E.2d 415, 168 N.C. App. 595, 2005 N.C. App. LEXIS 360 (N.C. Ct. App. 2005).

Opinion

MARTIN, Chief Judge.

Respondents appeal from a decision of the Catawba County District Court adjudicating their child, P.C., born 13 November 1997, a neglected juvenile as defined by N.C. Gen. Stat. § 7B-101(15).

The evidence in the record discloses that on 3 September 2002, four-year-old P.C. touched another child inappropriately at her daycare center. When the daycare workers questioned her about this behavior, she revealed that her father touched her in a similar manner. The daycare center contacted the Catawba County Department of Social Services and the Newton Police Department about possible sexual abuse of P.C. by her father, respondent J.C. Thomas Neff, a Child Protective Services Investigator with the Catawba County Department of Social Services (DSS), and Janet Mace, a detective with the Newton Police Department, interviewed P.C. and her parents, J.C. and R.C., the following day.

Mr. Neff and Detective Mace first spoke with respondent-mother, R.C., at her home while waiting for her husband to come home from work. R.C. revealed the following information: her husband gives P.C. her baths, P.C. sleeps in the bed with them at night, P.C. calls her privates "kitty-cat," and P.C. likes to play with R.C.'s breasts, which P.C. calls "roller balls."

When J.C. arrived, Mr. Neff and Detective Mace explained the allegations. J.C. said that P.C.'s statements could have been referring to when he puts vaginal cream on her. Mr. Neff, however, told J.C. he did not feel that explanation fully accounted for P.C.'s actions. Then J.C. said, "All right, I'm going to give it to you straight . . . [P.C.] likes to be tickled." J.C. went on to say that her favorite place to be tickled is high up on her inner thigh, that she loves to run around the house naked, and that he is the one who bathes her due to his wife's bad knees and arthritis.

Later that day, Mr. Neff and Detective Mace interviewed P.C. Detective Mace asked P.C. questions while Mr. Neff took notes. She had P.C. identify several body parts on a drawing, which P.C. correctly identified. P.C. called the genital area "pee-pee." When asked what people do with their pee-pee, she replied that her mom and dad take her clothes off and tickle her pee-pee. Detective Mace then asked if she had ever felt anything inside her pee-pee. P.C. replied that her daddy puts a "secret tube" inside her "kitty-cat." Detective Mace asked if that hurt, and P.C. shook her head in the negative. She then volunteered that it tickles, that he tells her to close her eyes, and that he does it to Mommy too.

That afternoon, after the interview with P.C., J.C. went to the Newton Police Station and spoke with Mr. Neff and Detective Mace again. When asked if he had ever touched P.C.'s "kitty-cat," he said he was sure he had while tickling her. Detective Mace asked him to describe how he tickles her. According to J.C., P.C. will come to him and say "Daddy do me" and raise her arms in the air when she wants to be tickled. He demonstrated using the top side of his fingers and said he tickles her from the neck down. When P.C. wants to stop, she says she does not want to be tickled anymore and walks away.

Pursuant to these interviews, Detective Mace executed a search warrant of respondent-appellants' residence. There were no pornographic materials, photographs, or videos found. The computer contained no pornographic images or identified web sites, and there were no sexual aids discovered. The officers seized a blue and white bicycle or basketball pump, which P.C. identified as the "magic tube."

During the second interview with P.C. four days later, Detective Mace asked P.C. about the secret tube. P.C. answered that her father had told her the night before not to tell anyone where the tube was hidden. Detective Mace asked P.C. if her father had ever put the tube in her kitty-cat, and P.C. said yes. Detective Mace also asked if P.C. had ever touched her father's "ding-dong" (the term P.C. used for male genitalia) and whether she had put her mouth on it. P.C. answered both questions affirmatively.

The third interview took place three days later at P.C.'s daycare at the YMCA. Detective Mace asked P.C. if she remembered what they had talked about last time. P.C. responded that they had talked about her daddy's ding-dong. When Detective Mace asked what her father did with the magic tube, P.C. said he "sticks it in my pee-pee." During the interview, P.C. also said she sleeps in bed with her mother and father at night, and she wears "panties" to bed. When asked if anyone had ever touched her under her panties, she said that daddy had put his hand in her panties. Detective Mace asked where mommy was when daddy put his hand in her panties, and P.C. said mommy was in the bed and P.C. was on the couch.

Detective Mace then pulled out her key chain, which had attached to it a small baton three to four inches in length, and asked P.C. to demonstrate how she touches daddy's ding-dong using the baton. According to Mr. Neff's notes, "the child wrapped her hand around it and squeezed her hand while moving the stick up and down." The keys jingled as she shook the baton. Detective Mace asked where her mommy was when this happened, and P.C. replied that mommy was at work. She went on to say, "he lets me touch his ding-dong on Saturdays." When Detective Mace asked what she did with it, P.C. stated, "I squeeze it." Detective Mace asked where this happens, and P.C. said it happens on the couch. She said she lays on top of him and he has his shorts on. When asked how it felt, P.C. replied that it was soft. Detective Mace also asked if she had ever touched daddy's ding-dong with her mouth, and according to the trial transcript, P.C. said yes, followed by "Umm, tastes good, smells like apple deodorant." When asked if mommy had ever seen her touch daddy's ding-dong, she said, "No, Mommy would not like that."

As a result of these statements, the Department of Social Services removed P.C. from her home and placed her in the home of a licensed foster parent who was also a family friend of the parents. However, the foster parent reported that her nine-year-old child heard P.C. tell her five-year-old son to pull his pants down. The foster parent intervened before anything could happen. Soon after this incident, P.C. went to live in the home of her paternal aunt and uncle.

P.C. was given a physical examination to determine if there was physical evidence of abuse. The exam was not conclusive. The doctor found thickened tissue on the labia minora, which was most likely a scar from trauma. However, the examiner said the cause of the trauma could be accidental, self-inflicted, or abuse. The hymen was normal and intact. After the exam, the foster parent reported that P.C. began crying during her bath and said, "it hurts again." When questioned if she had ever hurt like that before, P.C. replied it had hurt when "Adam," a classmate, put his finger in her at daycare. She said "Adam" received a time out as punishment for this behavior. The daycare teacher said no such incident ever occurred.

P.C. was interviewed several times by psychologist Dr. James A. Powell. Dr. Powell was initially retained by respondent-appellant father to determine the origin of P.C.'s statements. During the first interview, P.C. stated spontaneously that "Daddy didn't do nothing." She denied having ever touched or seen a penis. When asked if she had ever put her mouth on a "ding-dong," she said "no." When asked about the secret tube, she first said she did not remember. Later she said, "it was a magic tube and daddy put it in my pee-pee and it was orange. It felt good. It felt perfect. That was the one mommy, daddy and me wanted. . . .

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