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Court of Appeals of Texas·Decided June 6, 2014·No. 08-13-00195-CR·Published

Opinion

COURT OF APPEALS EIGHTH DISTRICT OF TEXAS EL PASO, TEXAS

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§ No. 08-13-00195-CR

IN RE: THE STATE OF TEXAS, § AN ORIGINAL PROCEEDING

Relator. § IN MANDAMUS

OPINION

Relator, the State of Texas, petitions this Court to issue a writ of mandamus directing

Respondent, the Hon. Bonnie Rangel, Judge of the 171st District Court, to vacate an order

disqualifying the El Paso County District Attorney’s Office 1 from prosecuting Real Party in

Interest, James McGinnis, in Cause Number 20120D05588 for an unspecified criminal offense

committed against a child.

BACKGROUND

McGinnis, represented by Theresa Caballero, filed a motion to disqualify the District

Attorney’s office from prosecuting his case. In his motion, McGinnis alleged that Assistant

1 We observe that Relator is the District Attorney for the 34th Judicial District of Texas. District Attorney Holly Rodriguez is a material witness in McGinnis’s prosecution because she

“monitored” the child witness’s forensic interviews at the Child Advocacy Center, and observed

what the child said “while the camera was running and while it was not running.” McGinnis

asserted that these circumstances render Rodriguez a material witness whom he intends to call as a

defense witness to impeach the child’s testimony during pre-trial and trial proceedings if it differs

from the statements provided during the forensic interviews.

The State, represented by Penny Hamilton, filed a written response. It construed

McGinnis’s motion to allege a conflict of interest, and cited legal authority supporting its

contentions that no proper basis for disqualification existed, that the trial court was not vested with

general authority to remove a district attorney, and that a party seeking disqualification “cannot

invite the necessary actual prejudice by unnecessarily calling the opposing counsel as a witness.”

The State argued that McGinnis had presented only a hypothetical circumstance for calling

Rodriguez as a witness, unsupported by fact or by citation to legal authority, and failed to show

actual prejudice that would require the disqualification of the District Attorney or any Assistant

District Attorney.

At the June 28, 2013, hearing on his motion, McGinnis asserted that he was permitted to

“use witnesses to impeach another witness” and complained that Rodriguez had inserted herself

into the investigative process. The State countered the motion by reiterating and referring to the

arguments presented in its written response. The State argued that if the child’s testimony

differed at trial from the statements made during the forensic interview, it would be appropriate to

impeach the child, and if there were issues to be examined about the interview, the actual forensic

interviewer would be a proper witness. Explaining that Assistant District Attorney Rodriguez

2 was merely present behind a mirror during the forensic interview and had no kind of interaction

with the child, and because the interview had been recorded without interruption, the State asserted

Rodriguez is not a material witness and the uninterrupted recording “stands on its own.” It further

contended that McGinnis’s motion and arguments for the disqualification of the District

Attorney’s office merely presumed future harm, and failed to show any actual prejudice in the

pending proceedings rising to the level of a due-process violation. The State explained to Judge

Rangel that Child Advocacy Center protocol requires that two agencies be present during the

forensic interview so that there are no witness issues.

In response, Caballero argued:

CABALLERO: If you just take the prosecutor’s argument, it proves my point. She says . . . no impeachment witnesses would be necessary because it’s recorded. Well, not everything that’s said is properly recorded, a recording can be lost, a recording can be unclear, a recording can be lots of thing[s].

After the State identified that the recording of the forensic interview was not lost, the trial court

observed:

THE COURT: This is the problem I see[.] You say it’s recorded and any question you can go back to the recording and see. I –as far fetched as it [may] seem, there [may be] a scenario where you had to – you had to recess 15 times because this child couldn’t compose himself or because the child kept forgetting or because whatever. What is not on the actual recording might be a critical bit of information, might be, right?

THE STATE: If that scenario happens?

THE COURT: Right.

THE STATE: Yes, if that scenario happens.

THE COURT: And we don’t know that.

THE STATE: Well, we do know that, Your Honor. I mean, what we would ask is that the Court, in making [its] decision, look at the recording because the policy

3 and procedure is –

THE COURT: No, ma’am. You’re not understanding. You’re not understanding.

THE STATE: No, what I’m saying is there is no recess where the recording stops and then it starts back up again. It’s a single recording, nobody leaves the room. So there is no scenario where you have conversations where you stop and then you go talk and then you come back and then you do that. I understand the Court’s question, but I can tell you we do know that because of the recording. And we would ask that we be able to provide the Court – if you would like to look at that in making your decision as for the completeness of the recording. We can provide you a copy of that so that you can look at it for yourself in making the determination.

THE COURT: To see that you did not take any recesses?

THE STATE: Right. Exactly. . . . The protocol is the camera stays running. If the child has to go to the bathroom, for example.

The hearing then strayed into a colloquy regarding hypothetical circumstances regarding who may

have access to a child who leaves an interview to use a restroom. The State explained:

THE STATE: [Y]ou can envision all sorts of different scenarios. All I can do is tell you, Judge, that’s not the way that the circumstances were set up and certainly not applicable in this case. . . . In this case, there is absolutely no disruption of the interview. There [are] no breaks. There is no interaction between Ms. Rodriguez and the child that’s being interviewed.

THE COURT: . . . But if there was some kind of [interaction] with that child . . . then Ms. Rodriguez would become a very material witness.

. . .

THE STATE: [N]ot Ms. Rodriguez because our position is, she’s sitting behind the mirror. She doesn’t leave, so she couldn’t be a material witness in that regard because she wouldn’t even know that that occurred.

THE COURT: But we don’t know that. We don’t know that. We know if she left. We don’t know if she followed the child. We don’t know that. . . . I have got to tell you this, the mere fact that she’s there present raises these issues. It really does. I don’t think the person prosecuting the case should be present at these videotaped recordings because I’ve given you a couple of scenarios where the DA

4 [who] is present . . . may become a material witness because of those scenarios that may happen.

THE STATE: Well, Your Honor, it’s our position that . . . that scenario . . . is not applicable to the case at hand--.

Judge Rangel stated that she needed to look at the video recording and explained, “It might happen

and if and when it does, you’re subjecting yourself to a disqualification.” Judge Rangel continued

to hypothesize other situations whereby the District Attorney or Assistant District Attorneys in that

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