POSNER, Circuit Judge.
The question presented by this bankruptcy appeal is whether Indiana permits an involuntary lien to be obtained in a liquor license. The appellant, VanKirk, was an employee of a bar owned by the debtor, Barnes (actually a predecessor of Barnes, but we can ignore that detail). VanKirk had filed a notice of employee’s lien on “any and all assets” of Barnes for
unpaid wages and later had obtained from an Indiana court a default judgment against Barnes foreclosing his lien. Van-Kirk asked the court to appoint a receiver to operate the bar for his benefit and that of the bar’s other creditors, but before the receiver could be appointed Barnes declared bankruptcy. The trustee in bankruptcy sold the bar’s liquor license. VanKirk then brought this adversary proceeding to enforce his lien. He seeks so much of the proceeds of the sale of the license as are necessary to pay his claim, subject to the rights of any lienors who are senior to him. The bankruptcy court, seconded by the district court, ruled that a liquor license is not property under Indiana law and therefore VanKirk could not obtain a lien on it.
Indiana’s alcoholic-beverages statute and the cases interpreting it are indeed explicit that liquor licenses are not “property.” Ind.Code § 7.1-3-1-2;
State ex rel. Harris v. Superior Court,
245 Ind. 339, 197 N.E.2d 634, 640 (1964);
Vanek v. Indiana National Bank,
540 N.E.2d 81, 84 (Ind.App.1989), aff'd, 551 N.E.2d 1134 (Ind.1990) (per curiam);
Dagley v. Incorporated Town of Fairview Park,
175 Ind.App. 379, 371 N.E.2d 1338, 1341 (1978). Yet Barnes’s liquor license was treated as property of his estate by the trustee, who sold the license and is treating the proceeds as property of the estate too. This treatment is clearly correct, as well as not contested by any party. Property is broadly defined by the Bankruptcy Code, see 11 U.S.C. § 541(a)(1), and certainly includes a valuable, marketable asset. “[Ejvery conceivable interest of the debt- or, future, nonpossessory, contingent, speculative, and derivative, is within the reach of § 541.”
In re Carousel Int’l Corp.,
89 F.3d 359, 362 (7th Cir.1996); see also
Westmoreland Human Opportunities, Inc. v. Walsh,
246 F.3d 233, 241 (3d Cir.2001). True, a liquor license may not be transferred without the approval of the state’s Alcoholic Beverage Commission, Ind.Code § 7.1-3-24-1; 905 Ind. Admin. Code 1-17-4, and can be revoked upon proof of misconduct. Ind.Code § 7.1-3-23-2;
Indiana Alcoholic Beverage Comm’n v. Dowland,
580 N.E.2d 724, 726 (Ind.App.1991);
Indiana Alcoholic Beverage Comm’n v. State ex rel. Harmon,
171 Ind.App. 156, 355 N.E.2d 450, 454 (1976). But these are not unusual conditions on property; the sale of many goods require government approval and of course property can be taken away from a person for various reasons, for example because it has become a public or private nuisance. It is no surprise, therefore, that the few cases to address the issue hold that a liquor license, provided it is salable, is indeed property within the meaning of section 541 of the Bankruptcy Code.
In re Nejberger,
934 F.2d 1300, 1302 (3d Cir.1991);
In re Terwilliger’s Catering Plus, Inc.,
911 F.2d 1168, 1171-72 (6th Cir.1990);
In re Benz,
218 F. 50, 54 (3d Cir.1914);
Fisher v. Cushman,
103 F. 860, 864-65 (1st Cir.1900). None is an Indiana case, but the trustee does not argue that Indiana’s liquor law is atypical.
Two Indiana cases say that, in addition to requiring approval to transfer and being revocable, liquor licenses may not be used to secure a loan.
Cole v. Loman & Gray, Inc.,
713-N.E.2d 901, 905 n. 3 (Ind.App.1999);
Vanek v. Indiana National Bank, supra,
540 N.E.2d at 84; see also
In re Eagles Nest, Inc.,
57 B.R. 337, 340 (Bankr.N.D.Ind.1986). The only reason given for this conclusion, and it is given only by bankruptcy judges, see
id.
at 341;
In re Ratcliff Enterprises, Inc.,
44 B.R. 778, 781 (Bankr.E.D.Mich.1984), is that the state wants to limit the distribution of liquor (which is in fact a stated policy of Indiana, see Ind.Code § 7.1 — 1—1—1 (b)) by making it more difficult for owners of establishments at which liquor is served to expand their business by borrowing. This would be an
exceedingly odd method of regulating the liquor business, especially since the owner of such an establishment is free to pledge his accounts receivable to secure a loan, though there is the difference that the license may capitalize future expected earnings as well as current receivables and so may secure a larger loan. No Indiana court has endorsed the reasoning of the bankruptcy judges, and the Indiana Supreme Court has not endorsed the conclusion (that a voluntary lien cannot be obtained in a liquor license) reached in
Cole
or
Vanek.
(Its summary affirmance of
Vanek
does not necessarily imply adoption of
Vanek’&
dictum.) Nor is there anything in the statute to support such a conclusion.
Moreover, all these are cases about
voluntary
liens, and there is a difference well recognized in bankruptcy and secured-transactions law between a voluntary and an involuntary lien. The former, sometimes called a consensual hen or a security interest, is the type of lien that you give someone to secure his extension of credit to you; the latter, sometimes called a non-consensual lien and illustrated by the judicial lien in this case, arises from your having defaulted on an obligation to the tax authorities, employees, or other involuntary creditors. See 11 U.S.C. §§ 101(36), (51), (53);
United States v. Ron Pair Enterprises, Inc.,
489 U.S. 235, 240, 109 S.Ct. 1026, 103 L.Ed.2d 290 (1989);
In re Gledhill,
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POSNER, Circuit Judge.
The question presented by this bankruptcy appeal is whether Indiana permits an involuntary lien to be obtained in a liquor license. The appellant, VanKirk, was an employee of a bar owned by the debtor, Barnes (actually a predecessor of Barnes, but we can ignore that detail). VanKirk had filed a notice of employee’s lien on “any and all assets” of Barnes for
unpaid wages and later had obtained from an Indiana court a default judgment against Barnes foreclosing his lien. Van-Kirk asked the court to appoint a receiver to operate the bar for his benefit and that of the bar’s other creditors, but before the receiver could be appointed Barnes declared bankruptcy. The trustee in bankruptcy sold the bar’s liquor license. VanKirk then brought this adversary proceeding to enforce his lien. He seeks so much of the proceeds of the sale of the license as are necessary to pay his claim, subject to the rights of any lienors who are senior to him. The bankruptcy court, seconded by the district court, ruled that a liquor license is not property under Indiana law and therefore VanKirk could not obtain a lien on it.
Indiana’s alcoholic-beverages statute and the cases interpreting it are indeed explicit that liquor licenses are not “property.” Ind.Code § 7.1-3-1-2;
State ex rel. Harris v. Superior Court,
245 Ind. 339, 197 N.E.2d 634, 640 (1964);
Vanek v. Indiana National Bank,
540 N.E.2d 81, 84 (Ind.App.1989), aff'd, 551 N.E.2d 1134 (Ind.1990) (per curiam);
Dagley v. Incorporated Town of Fairview Park,
175 Ind.App. 379, 371 N.E.2d 1338, 1341 (1978). Yet Barnes’s liquor license was treated as property of his estate by the trustee, who sold the license and is treating the proceeds as property of the estate too. This treatment is clearly correct, as well as not contested by any party. Property is broadly defined by the Bankruptcy Code, see 11 U.S.C. § 541(a)(1), and certainly includes a valuable, marketable asset. “[Ejvery conceivable interest of the debt- or, future, nonpossessory, contingent, speculative, and derivative, is within the reach of § 541.”
In re Carousel Int’l Corp.,
89 F.3d 359, 362 (7th Cir.1996); see also
Westmoreland Human Opportunities, Inc. v. Walsh,
246 F.3d 233, 241 (3d Cir.2001). True, a liquor license may not be transferred without the approval of the state’s Alcoholic Beverage Commission, Ind.Code § 7.1-3-24-1; 905 Ind. Admin. Code 1-17-4, and can be revoked upon proof of misconduct. Ind.Code § 7.1-3-23-2;
Indiana Alcoholic Beverage Comm’n v. Dowland,
580 N.E.2d 724, 726 (Ind.App.1991);
Indiana Alcoholic Beverage Comm’n v. State ex rel. Harmon,
171 Ind.App. 156, 355 N.E.2d 450, 454 (1976). But these are not unusual conditions on property; the sale of many goods require government approval and of course property can be taken away from a person for various reasons, for example because it has become a public or private nuisance. It is no surprise, therefore, that the few cases to address the issue hold that a liquor license, provided it is salable, is indeed property within the meaning of section 541 of the Bankruptcy Code.
In re Nejberger,
934 F.2d 1300, 1302 (3d Cir.1991);
In re Terwilliger’s Catering Plus, Inc.,
911 F.2d 1168, 1171-72 (6th Cir.1990);
In re Benz,
218 F. 50, 54 (3d Cir.1914);
Fisher v. Cushman,
103 F. 860, 864-65 (1st Cir.1900). None is an Indiana case, but the trustee does not argue that Indiana’s liquor law is atypical.
Two Indiana cases say that, in addition to requiring approval to transfer and being revocable, liquor licenses may not be used to secure a loan.
Cole v. Loman & Gray, Inc.,
713-N.E.2d 901, 905 n. 3 (Ind.App.1999);
Vanek v. Indiana National Bank, supra,
540 N.E.2d at 84; see also
In re Eagles Nest, Inc.,
57 B.R. 337, 340 (Bankr.N.D.Ind.1986). The only reason given for this conclusion, and it is given only by bankruptcy judges, see
id.
at 341;
In re Ratcliff Enterprises, Inc.,
44 B.R. 778, 781 (Bankr.E.D.Mich.1984), is that the state wants to limit the distribution of liquor (which is in fact a stated policy of Indiana, see Ind.Code § 7.1 — 1—1—1 (b)) by making it more difficult for owners of establishments at which liquor is served to expand their business by borrowing. This would be an
exceedingly odd method of regulating the liquor business, especially since the owner of such an establishment is free to pledge his accounts receivable to secure a loan, though there is the difference that the license may capitalize future expected earnings as well as current receivables and so may secure a larger loan. No Indiana court has endorsed the reasoning of the bankruptcy judges, and the Indiana Supreme Court has not endorsed the conclusion (that a voluntary lien cannot be obtained in a liquor license) reached in
Cole
or
Vanek.
(Its summary affirmance of
Vanek
does not necessarily imply adoption of
Vanek’&
dictum.) Nor is there anything in the statute to support such a conclusion.
Moreover, all these are cases about
voluntary
liens, and there is a difference well recognized in bankruptcy and secured-transactions law between a voluntary and an involuntary lien. The former, sometimes called a consensual hen or a security interest, is the type of lien that you give someone to secure his extension of credit to you; the latter, sometimes called a non-consensual lien and illustrated by the judicial lien in this case, arises from your having defaulted on an obligation to the tax authorities, employees, or other involuntary creditors. See 11 U.S.C. §§ 101(36), (51), (53);
United States v. Ron Pair Enterprises, Inc.,
489 U.S. 235, 240, 109 S.Ct. 1026, 103 L.Ed.2d 290 (1989);
In re Gledhill,
164 F.3d 1338, 1341-42 (10th Cir.1999);
Rankin v. DeSarno,
89 F.3d 1123, 1127 (3d Cir.1996);
In re Brentwood Outpatient, Ltd.,
43 F.3d 256, 259 (6th Cir.1994). As these cases illustrate, they are not identical legal- interests. So what this case comes down to is whether Indiana permits an involuntary lien to be obtained in a liquor license. (It may well permit voluntary liens as well, if
Va-nek
and
Cole
are incorrect, as they may well be; but we need not decide that in this case.) If Indiana does permit an involuntary hen to be obtained in a liquor license, then the trustee in bankruptcy could not avoid the hen by selling his debtor’s license, e.g.,
In re Merchants Grain, Inc.,
93 F.3d 1347, 1352-53 (7th Cir.1996);
In re Florline Corp.,
190 B.R. 342, 344-46 (Bankr.S.D.Ind.1996), and VanKirk can, under standard principles of equity, impress a constructive trust on the proceeds of the sale.
Melloh v. Gladis,
261 Ind. 647, 309 N.E.2d 433, 438-39 (1974);
Estates of Kalwitz v. Kalwitz,
717 N.E.2d 904, 912 (Ind.App.1999);
Rollins v. Metropolitan Life Ins. Co.,
912 F.2d 911, 914 (7th Cir.1990) (Indiana law); see also
Harris Trust & Savings Bank v. Salomon Smith Barney Inc.,
530 U.S. 238, 250-51, 120 S.Ct. 2180, 147 L.Ed.2d 187 (2000);
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. Associates’ Health & Welfare Plan v. Wells,
213 F.3d 398, 401 (7th Cir.2000);
Beatty v. Guggenheim Exploration Co.,
225 N.Y. 380, 122 N.E. 378, 386 (1919) (Cardozo, J.).
There are no cases on whether Indiana permits an involuntary hen to be obtained in a liquor hcense, and the trustee’s lawyer was unable to give us any reason why Indiana would not permit this. The only rationale that has been offered for not permitting voluntary hens on liquor licenses (and that a feeble one) is inapplicable, as it is hardly plausible that immunity from involuntary hens would significantly increase liquor licensees’ access to capital markets; and none other has been suggested. Not to permit involuntary hens in liquor licenses, rather than discouraging liquor licensees from borrowing, would give them a privileged status; it would be harder, for example, to collect taxes or enforce judgments against them than against other businessmen. Cf.
In re Brentwood Outpatient, Ltd., supra,
43 F.3d at 259-60.
It would be illuminating to know whether Indiana permits involuntary hens on other licenses, but neither the bankruptcy judge nor the district judge, nor the par
ties, address the question, and our own research has disclosed no applicable statutes or cases. The closest is a case that declined to decide whether a mechanic’s lien could be imposed on a permit issued by the Indiana Department of Transportation to operate a natural-gas storage field.
McCarbin McAuliffe Mechanical Contractor, Inc. v. Midwest Gas Storage, Inc.,
685 N.E.2d 165, 168 n. 6 (Ind.App.1997). The case law of other states allows the imposition of involuntary liens or lien-like interests on liquor licenses (we have found no cases involving other types of government permit), under statutes similar to Indiana’s. See
Dodds v. Shamer,
339 Md. 540, 663 A.2d 1318, 1326 (1995);
In re What D’Ya Call It, Inc.,
105 N.M. 164, 730 P.2d 467, 468 (N.M.1986);
In re Kimura,
969 F.2d 806, 813 (9th Cir.1992);
In re Stone,
6 F.3d 581, 583-84 (9th Cir.1993);
In re Farmers Markets Inc.,
792 F.2d 1400, 1403 (9th Cir.1986);
632 Metacom Associates v. Pub Dennis of Warren, Inc.,
591 A.2d 379, 383-84 (R.I.1991);
P.M.D. Corp., Inc. v. Hyland Helstrom Enterprises, Inc.,
63 Ohio App.3d 681, 579 N.E.2d 779, 781 (1990). These cases are not elaborately reasoned, but maybe that is because no one can think of a good reason why, given that liquor licenses are salable, they can’t be used as security, especially for satisfying the claims of involuntary creditors. If the Indiana statute forbade such use, well and good; but to interpolate such a prohibition with no reason to do so and no support in case law (apart from an unelaborated assertion in the pair of Indiana intermediate appellate opinions that we cited, and a couple of bankruptcy opinions — all distinguishable as involving voluntary liens) for doing so would make no sense that we can see.
Revered.