OPINION OF THE COURT
RENDELL, Circuit Judge.
Carnell Turner seeks our permission to file a second habeas corpus application in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania in an attempt to vacate his 1996 sentence for crack cocaine distribution and conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine. Turner’s proposed habeas corpus application invokes the new rule of constitutional law announced by the Supreme Court in
Apprendi v. New Jersey,
530 U.S. 466, 120 S.Ct. 2348, 147 L.Ed.2d 435 (2000). The legal issue presented by this case is whether the new rule found in
Apprendi
has been “made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court,” such that Turner may file a second habeas corpus application in the District Court. Following the Supreme Court’s recent pronouncements in
Tyler v. Cain,
— U.S. -, 121 S.Ct. 2478, 150 L.Ed.2d 632 (2001), we hold that
Apprendi
has not been “made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court,” and accordingly will deny Turner permission to file a second application.
I.
According to the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, a second or successive habeas corpus application filed by a federal prisoner like Turner:
[M]ust be certified as provided in section 2244 by a panel of the appropriate court of appeals to contain' — •
(2) a new rule of constitutional law, made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court, that was previously unavailable.
28 U.S.C. § 2255 ¶8. Section 2244 certification to which this provision refers is described in § 2244(b)(3), which sets forth the procedures and standards for applications in the court of appeals. Under these standards, Turner must make “a prima facie showing that the application satisfies the requirements” of subsection § 2244.
Id.
§ 2244(b)(3)(C). Therefore, reading § 2255 in conjunction with § 2244, Turner must make a “prima facie showing” that his habeas corpus application contains “a new rule of constitutional law, made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court, that was previously unavailable,” in order for us to grant him permission to file his application in the district court.
See generally Reyes-Requena v. United States,
243 F.3d 893, 897-99 (5th Cir.2001) (discussing the interplay between § 2255 and § 2244).
II.
Turner’s application contains an
Apprendi
claim. In
Apprendi,
the Supreme Court held, for the first time, that “[ojther than the fact of a prior conviction, any fact that increases the penalty for a crime beyond the prescribed statutory maximum must be submitted to a jury, and proved beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Apprendi,
530 U.S. at 490, 120 S.Ct. 2348. For purposes of this opinion, we need not address the intricacies of
Apprendi,
but suffice it to say that the case has generated quite a stir in the legal community, and has important implications for the conduct of criminal trials and sentencing.
See, e.g., id.
at 524, 120 S.Ct. 2348 (O’Connor, J., dissenting) (stating that
Apprendi
“will surely be remembered as a watershed change in constitutional law”);
United States v. Mack,
229 F.3d 226, 236 (3d Cir.2000) (Becker, C.J., concurring) (noting that Apprendi’s implications have generated “enormous controversy,” and that
Apprendi
claims may “reach tidal proportions”). It is not surprising, then, that the parties agree that
Apprendi
establishes “a
new rule of constitutional law.” They also agree that this new rule was “previously unavailable” to Turner, because it was announced more than a year after his first § 2255 motion was decided.
Therefore, the only issue we need decide is whether Turner can make a prima facie showing that
Apprendi
has been “made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court.”
Fortuitously, the Supreme Court’s recent decision in
Tyler
greatly simplifies this inquiry, and dictates our response. In
Tyler,
which overruled our earlier decision in
West v. Vaughn,
204 F.3d 53 (3d Cir.2000), the Court explained that a new rule is not “made retroactive to cases on collateral review” unless the Court itself holds it to be retroactive.
Tyler,
121 S.Ct. at 2482. As the Court explained:
The Supreme Court does not “make” a rule retroactive when it merely establishes principles of retroactivity and leaves the application of those principles to lower courts. In such an event, any legal conclusion that is derived from the principles is developed by the lower court (or perhaps by a combination of courts), not by the Supreme Court.
Id.
The government correctly points out that no Supreme Court case specifically holds that
Apprendi
is retroactive on collateral review, because the Court has yet to consider that precise question. The government concludes that under
Tyler,
this alone means that we must dismiss Turner’s petition, because only the Supreme Court itself can “make” a ease retroactive on collateral review.
The government’s interpretation of
Tyler,
however, is overly simplistic.
Justice O’Connor, who supplied the crucial fifth vote for the majority, wrote a concurring opinion, and her reasoning adds to our understanding of the impact of
Tyler.
She explains that it is possible for the Court to “make” a case retroactive on collateral review without explicitly so stating, as long as the Court’s holdings “logically permit no other conclusion than that the rule is retroactive.”
Id.
at 2486 (O’Connor, J., concurring). In other words, contrary to
the government’s position, just because the Court has never specifically considered the retroactivity of
Apprendi
does not foreclose the possibility that the Court has “made”
Apprendi
retroactive on collateral review.
For example, Justice O’Connor explained that:
[I]f we hold in Case One that a particular type of rule applies retroactively to cases on collateral review and hold in Case Two that a given rule is of that particular type, then it necessarily follows that the given rule applies retroactively to cases on collateral review.
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OPINION OF THE COURT
RENDELL, Circuit Judge.
Carnell Turner seeks our permission to file a second habeas corpus application in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania in an attempt to vacate his 1996 sentence for crack cocaine distribution and conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine. Turner’s proposed habeas corpus application invokes the new rule of constitutional law announced by the Supreme Court in
Apprendi v. New Jersey,
530 U.S. 466, 120 S.Ct. 2348, 147 L.Ed.2d 435 (2000). The legal issue presented by this case is whether the new rule found in
Apprendi
has been “made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court,” such that Turner may file a second habeas corpus application in the District Court. Following the Supreme Court’s recent pronouncements in
Tyler v. Cain,
— U.S. -, 121 S.Ct. 2478, 150 L.Ed.2d 632 (2001), we hold that
Apprendi
has not been “made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court,” and accordingly will deny Turner permission to file a second application.
I.
According to the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, a second or successive habeas corpus application filed by a federal prisoner like Turner:
[M]ust be certified as provided in section 2244 by a panel of the appropriate court of appeals to contain' — •
(2) a new rule of constitutional law, made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court, that was previously unavailable.
28 U.S.C. § 2255 ¶8. Section 2244 certification to which this provision refers is described in § 2244(b)(3), which sets forth the procedures and standards for applications in the court of appeals. Under these standards, Turner must make “a prima facie showing that the application satisfies the requirements” of subsection § 2244.
Id.
§ 2244(b)(3)(C). Therefore, reading § 2255 in conjunction with § 2244, Turner must make a “prima facie showing” that his habeas corpus application contains “a new rule of constitutional law, made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court, that was previously unavailable,” in order for us to grant him permission to file his application in the district court.
See generally Reyes-Requena v. United States,
243 F.3d 893, 897-99 (5th Cir.2001) (discussing the interplay between § 2255 and § 2244).
II.
Turner’s application contains an
Apprendi
claim. In
Apprendi,
the Supreme Court held, for the first time, that “[ojther than the fact of a prior conviction, any fact that increases the penalty for a crime beyond the prescribed statutory maximum must be submitted to a jury, and proved beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Apprendi,
530 U.S. at 490, 120 S.Ct. 2348. For purposes of this opinion, we need not address the intricacies of
Apprendi,
but suffice it to say that the case has generated quite a stir in the legal community, and has important implications for the conduct of criminal trials and sentencing.
See, e.g., id.
at 524, 120 S.Ct. 2348 (O’Connor, J., dissenting) (stating that
Apprendi
“will surely be remembered as a watershed change in constitutional law”);
United States v. Mack,
229 F.3d 226, 236 (3d Cir.2000) (Becker, C.J., concurring) (noting that Apprendi’s implications have generated “enormous controversy,” and that
Apprendi
claims may “reach tidal proportions”). It is not surprising, then, that the parties agree that
Apprendi
establishes “a
new rule of constitutional law.” They also agree that this new rule was “previously unavailable” to Turner, because it was announced more than a year after his first § 2255 motion was decided.
Therefore, the only issue we need decide is whether Turner can make a prima facie showing that
Apprendi
has been “made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court.”
Fortuitously, the Supreme Court’s recent decision in
Tyler
greatly simplifies this inquiry, and dictates our response. In
Tyler,
which overruled our earlier decision in
West v. Vaughn,
204 F.3d 53 (3d Cir.2000), the Court explained that a new rule is not “made retroactive to cases on collateral review” unless the Court itself holds it to be retroactive.
Tyler,
121 S.Ct. at 2482. As the Court explained:
The Supreme Court does not “make” a rule retroactive when it merely establishes principles of retroactivity and leaves the application of those principles to lower courts. In such an event, any legal conclusion that is derived from the principles is developed by the lower court (or perhaps by a combination of courts), not by the Supreme Court.
Id.
The government correctly points out that no Supreme Court case specifically holds that
Apprendi
is retroactive on collateral review, because the Court has yet to consider that precise question. The government concludes that under
Tyler,
this alone means that we must dismiss Turner’s petition, because only the Supreme Court itself can “make” a ease retroactive on collateral review.
The government’s interpretation of
Tyler,
however, is overly simplistic.
Justice O’Connor, who supplied the crucial fifth vote for the majority, wrote a concurring opinion, and her reasoning adds to our understanding of the impact of
Tyler.
She explains that it is possible for the Court to “make” a case retroactive on collateral review without explicitly so stating, as long as the Court’s holdings “logically permit no other conclusion than that the rule is retroactive.”
Id.
at 2486 (O’Connor, J., concurring). In other words, contrary to
the government’s position, just because the Court has never specifically considered the retroactivity of
Apprendi
does not foreclose the possibility that the Court has “made”
Apprendi
retroactive on collateral review.
For example, Justice O’Connor explained that:
[I]f we hold in Case One that a particular type of rule applies retroactively to cases on collateral review and hold in Case Two that a given rule is of that particular type, then it necessarily follows that the given rule applies retroactively to cases on collateral review. In such circumstances, we can be said to have “made” the given rule retroactive to cases on collateral review.
Id.
at 2485-86. But Justice O’Connor qualified this approach by explaining that:
The relationship between the conclusion that a new rule is retroactive and the holdings that “ma[k]e” this rule retroactive, however, must be strictly logical—
i.e.,
the holdings must
dictate
the conclusion and not merely provide principles from which one may conclude that the rule applies retroactively.
Id.
at 2486 (emphasis in original). In sum, under
Tyler,
it is not enough that the new rule in
Apprendi
is
arguably
retroactive; rather, we will grant Turner permission to file a second habeas corpus application in the district court only if Supreme Court holdings
dictate
the conclusion that the new rule in
Apprendi
has been made retroactive to cases on collateral review.
Turner advances two principal arguments in support of the idea that the Court’s holdings “dictate” that
Apprendi
applies retroactively on collateral review. First, he argues that the “new rule” announced by
Apprendi
is a substantive rule (as opposed to a procedural one) and that substantive rules automatically enjoy retroactive effect on collateral review. And second, he argues that
Apprendi
is an extension of
In re Winship,
397 U.S. 358, 90 S.Ct. 1068, 25 L.Ed.2d 368 (1970), which the Supreme Court has held fully retroactive, and therefore by logical necessity,
Apprendi
must be retroactive on collateral review as well. Neither of these arguments, however, persuades us that the Supreme Court has “made”
Apprendi
retroactive to cases on collateral review, in the sense that
Tyler
requires.
We agree with Turner that when analyzing a “new rule,” the first question to ask is whether the rule is substantive or procedural in nature, because “the Supreme Court has created separate retroactivity standards for new rules of criminal procedure and new decisions of substantive criminal law.”
United States v. Woods,
986 F.2d 669, 676 (3d Cir.1993). Under the substantive retroactivity standard, the appropriate inquiry is whether the claimed legal error was a “ ‘fundamental defect which inherently results in a complete miscarriage of justice,’ and whether ‘it presents exceptional circumstances where the need for the remedy afforded’ by collateral relief is apparent.”
Id.
(quoting
Davis v. United States,
417 U.S. 333, 346, 94 S.Ct. 2298, 41 L.Ed.2d 109 (1974)). In contrast, new rules of criminal procedure are given retroactive effect on collateral review only if they can satisfy one of two narrow exceptions described in
Teague v. Lane,
489 U.S. 288, 109 S.Ct. 1060, 103 L.Ed.2d 334 (1989). First, “a court should apply a new criminal procedural rule retroactively if ‘it places certain kinds of primary, private individual conduct beyond the power of the criminal law-making authority to proscribe.’ ”
Woods,
986 F.2d at 677 (quoting
Teague,
489 U.S. at 306, 109 S.Ct. 1060). And second, “under
Teague
a court should apply a new procedural rule retroactively if ‘it requires the observance of those proce
dures that ... are implicit in the concept of 6 ordered liberty.’ ”
Id.
(quoting
Teague,
489 U.S. at 306, 109 S.Ct. 1060). As is apparent from the above discussion, Turner is incorrect to assert that new substantive rules automatically receive retroactive effect on collateral review. Rather, such rules must meet the standard that we described in
Woods.
More importantly, the Supreme Court’s holdings certainly do not “dictate” that the new rule in
Apprendi
is substantive — rather than procedural — in nature. Turner characterizes the new rule in
Apprendi
as a substantive rule of constitutional law because it forces the government to treat certain facts as the equivalent of substantive offense elements (and thus submit them to a jury and prove them beyond a reasonable doubt), which otherwise would be mere sentencing factors determined by a judge. On the other hand, the government characterizes the new rule as purely procedural in nature, because the rule imposes certain procedural requirements (namely, submission to a jury and proof beyond a reasonable doubt) for the establishment of certain facts.
Significantly, the government’s interpretation enjoys the support of the vast majority of courts to consider the issue.
E.g., United States v. Hernandez,
137 F.Supp.2d 919, 929 (N.D.Ohio 2001) (noting that “most courts that have addressed the retroactivity of
Apprendi
have [assumed] ... without discussion that the decision announced a constitutional rule of criminal procedure”);
Levan v. United States,
128 F.Supp.2d 270, 276 (E.D.Pa.2001) (stating that
“Apprendi
constitutes a procedural rule because it dictates what fact-finding procedure must be employed to ensure a fair trial”); Ware
v. United States,
124 F.Supp.2d 690, 595 (M.D.Tenn.2000) (same).
But see Darity v. United States,
124 F.Supp.2d 355, 361 (W.D.N.C.2000) (characterizing
Apprendi
as a “substantive change in the law”), overruled by
United States v. Sanders,
247 F.3d 139, 146-151 (4th Cir.2001). For the purposes of our analysis, however, we need not choose between these competing interpretations of
Apprendi.
It is enough for us to note that the new rule in
Apprendi
is merely
arguably
substantive — certainly, no Supreme Court holdings “dictate” that
Apprendi
establishes a substantive rule of law — and therefore, in light of the strict
Tyler
standard, Turner’s argument must fail.
Turner’s second argument is similarly flawed. According to
In re Winship,
397 U.S. 358, 90 S.Ct. 1068, 25 L.Ed.2d 368 (1970), a defendant cannot be convicted of a crime “except upon proof beyond a reasonable doubt of every fact necessary to constitute the crime with which he is charged.”
Id.
at 364, 90 S.Ct. 1068. Turner points out that the Court has subsequently held both
Winship
and certain extensions of
Winship
to be fully retroactive.
E.g., Hankerson v. North Carolina,
432 U.S. 233, 242-44, 97 S.Ct. 2339, 53 L.Ed.2d 306 (1977);
Ivan V. v. City of New York,
407 U.S. 203, 204-05, 92 S.Ct. 1951, 32 L.Ed.2d 659 (1972). Turner describes the new rule in
Apprendi
as simply an extension and application of the basic
Win-ship
rule, and therefore concludes that
Apprendi,
like
Winship,
must be applied retroactively on collateral review.
Even if we assume that Turner is correct to describe the new rule in
Apprendi
as simply a new extension and application of
Winship,
this does not mean that Supreme Court holdings “dictate” that
Ap-prendi
be applied retroactively to cases on collateral review. Instead, Turner finds himself in essentially the same position as the petitioner in
Tyler,
who argued that the rule contained in
Cage v. Louisiana,
498 U.S. 39, 111 S.Ct. 328, 112 L.Ed.2d 339 (1990), had been “made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court.”
Tyler,
121 S.Ct. at 2483-85. In
Cage,
the Court described the issue before it as “whether the reasonable-doubt instruction in this case complied with
Win-skip,”
and ultimately concluded that “the instruction at issue was contrary to the ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ requirement articulated in
Winship.” Cage,
498 U.S. at 40-41, 111 S.Ct. 328. In other words,
Cage
was a straightforward extension and application of
Winship
— -just as Turner characterizes
Apprendi
— and yet the
Tyler
Court rejected the petitioner’s argument, observing that “[t]he most he can claim is that ... this Court
should
make
Cage
retroactive to cases on collateral review. What is clear, however, is that we have not ‘made’
Cage
retroactive to cases on collateral review.”
Tyler,
121 S.Ct. at 2484 (emphasis in original). Similarly, the most that Turner can claim is that the Supreme Court
should
make
Apprendi
retroactive to cases on collateral review, and not that existing Supreme Court holdings dictate that result. Accordingly, Turner cannot satisfy the
Tyler
standard.
In sum, we will deny Turner’s request for leave to file a second habeas corpus application in the district court because he cannot make a “prima facie showing” that his habeas corpus application contains “a new rule of constitutional law, made retroactive to cases on collateral review by the Supreme Court, that was previously unavailable.” We note, however, that our decision does not address the underlying merits of Turner’s
Apprendi
claim. Accordingly, we will deny Turner’s motion without prejudice in the event that the Supreme Court subsequently makes
Ap-prendi
retroactive to cases on collateral review.
E.g., Browning v. United States,
241 F.3d 1262, 1267 (10th Cir.2001).
In accordance with the foregoing, Car-nell Turner’s motion for leave to file a second habeas corpus application in the district court will be DENIED without prejudice.