Lewis, J.
We review a nonunanimous order of the Appellate Division affirming an order of Special Term which annulled resolutions by the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority of the City of New York dismissing petitioners from their positions as bridge and tunnel officers and directing restoration of their civil service status and rights.
The petitioners, as veterans and employees in the competitive class of civil service, were accorded hearings upon stated charges. (Civil Service Law, § 22.) Thereafter the Authority, by formal resolutions, dismissed the petitioners upon its determination that, while employed as toll collectors at the BronxWhitestone Bridge, they had been guilty of neglect of duty, and had violated the Authority’s rules and regulations by corrupt dealings in prepaid toll tickets, passes and cash tolls.
At Special Term the Authority’s resolutions of dismissal were annulled on the theory that petitioners had been denied the right to be represented by counsel with whom they could consult in circumstances which were confidential. At the Appellate Division, where the order of Special Term was affirmed, one Justice dissenting, the following questions were certified:
[429]*429“1. Do the petition, answer, affidavits and the record of petitioners’ hearings show facts sufficient to entitle petitioners to an annulment of the resolutions of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority dated October 31, 1950, dismissing the petitioners from the service of the Authority?
“ 2. Was petitioners’ right to the assistance of counsel ‘ violated to the prejudice of the petitioners ’ within the meaning of subdivision 5 of Section 1296 of the Civil Practice Act? ”
The record discloses that tolls of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority are payable either in cash or by the presentation of prepaid toll tickets, the latter method of payment being frequently employed by business concerns which regularly use the bridges and tunnels operated by the Authority. Such concerns purchase books of toll tickets from the Authority which are then given to the drivers of company vehicles for use in payment of the toll charges.
On July 21, 1950, one John Berninger, employed as a bridge and tunnel officer at the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge, reported to his superior, Lieutenant Milton Rogers, that unused prepaid toll tickets, which had been misappropriated from their owners by truck drivers or other persons, were being sold to bridge and tunnel officers for less than face value — usually at half price. According to Berninger, tickets thus acquired were being included by certain bridge officers among daily toll receipts, the officers withdrawing and retaining cash equal to the full value of the prepaid toll tickets thus substituted. Lieutenant Rogers, who was then acting captain in charge of the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge, thereupon reported Berninger’s conversation to his superior and — at the latter’s suggestion — requested Berninger to obtain as much information as possible about the corrupt transactions. In accord with direction by Lieutenant Rogers, Berninger continued in his position and in so doing not only participated in the unlawful manipulation of tolls, but gathered and relayed to his superior detailed information regarding the misappropriations and the persons involved therein.
On September 28, 1950, Berninger and several bridge and tunnel officers were summoned to the office of the District Attorney of Bronx County where they were questioned with regard to the handling of toll tickets and notified of their suspension from duty pending investigation by the Bridge Authority, Although [430]*430Berninger on that occasion was told of his suspension in the presence of the other suspected employees, that notification was not intended to be effective but had as its sole purpose the concealment of Berninger’s identity as an informer for the Bridge Authority. Berninger himself was apprehensive of the safety of himself and his family if his co-operation with the bridge authority as an informer should become known, and it was at his request that he was ostensibly suspended from duty and later was served with formal charges of misconduct.
On the day of their appearance at the District Attorney’s office, the suspected employees — including the petitioners herein —■ determined to consult an attorney, and, on the following day, September 29, 1950, all or most of such employees, including Berninger, called upon Asher W. Schwartz, whom they retained to serve as their attorney in whatever proceeding should eventuate. It is Berninger’s testimony that he continued to fear his status as an informer might become known if he did not accompany his fellow employees to the attorney’s office. The following excerpt from Berninger’s testimony bears upon our inquiry:
“ Mr. Schwartz [counsel for petitioners and Berninger]: After I met that group and with all discussing the case with me and the trouble you were in, I interviewed each man personally, is that correct?
“ Mr. Berninger: Yes, sir.
“ Mr. Schwartz: And you came in to me personally, is that right?
“ Mr. Berninger: That is right.
“ Mr. Schwartz: At that time, didn’t I say to you at the outset that you were coming to me as a client to a lawyer and that whatever you told me in that discussion would be privileged and that I was not free to disclose to anybody, including any union official or any other party to these proceedings?
“ Mr. Berninger: I believe so.
“ Mr. Schwartz: And I told you that I would not disclose that, is that correct?
“ Mr. Berninger: That is correct.”
On October 14, 1950, formal charges of misconduct, together with notice of hearings to commence on October 18th were served upon petitioners and Berninger. Three days later, on October [431]*43117, 1950, the petitioners and Berninger again consulted their attorney, on which occasion Berninger gave no indication that the charges against him were not valid. In the afternoon of the date of that conference, the attorney contacted the attorney for the Authority and then furnished the names of the suspended officers by whom he had been retained to represent them at the hearings. Included among the names so listed was that of the informer Berninger.
At the hearings upon the charges, commencing on October 18, 1950, Berninger testified as a witness for the Authority, at which time his status as an informer was not revealed. Although the petitioners’ attorney was not present at the next hearing on October 19th, he appeared on the following day at which time Berninger informed him that his retainer was withdrawn. At the hearing of October 23d Berninger again testified as a witness for the Authority and on that occasion he frankly admitted his role as a “ checker ” and recited in detail his activities leading up to the filing of charges against himself and the petitioners herein.
It thus appears from an affidavit filed by Berninger and from his testimony that for a period of more than two months he acted as a “ checker or informer ” for the Authority in furtherance of its investigation to determine whether there existed misconduct and neglect of duty among the bridge and tunnel officers as toll collectors at the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge.
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Lewis, J.
We review a nonunanimous order of the Appellate Division affirming an order of Special Term which annulled resolutions by the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority of the City of New York dismissing petitioners from their positions as bridge and tunnel officers and directing restoration of their civil service status and rights.
The petitioners, as veterans and employees in the competitive class of civil service, were accorded hearings upon stated charges. (Civil Service Law, § 22.) Thereafter the Authority, by formal resolutions, dismissed the petitioners upon its determination that, while employed as toll collectors at the BronxWhitestone Bridge, they had been guilty of neglect of duty, and had violated the Authority’s rules and regulations by corrupt dealings in prepaid toll tickets, passes and cash tolls.
At Special Term the Authority’s resolutions of dismissal were annulled on the theory that petitioners had been denied the right to be represented by counsel with whom they could consult in circumstances which were confidential. At the Appellate Division, where the order of Special Term was affirmed, one Justice dissenting, the following questions were certified:
[429]*429“1. Do the petition, answer, affidavits and the record of petitioners’ hearings show facts sufficient to entitle petitioners to an annulment of the resolutions of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority dated October 31, 1950, dismissing the petitioners from the service of the Authority?
“ 2. Was petitioners’ right to the assistance of counsel ‘ violated to the prejudice of the petitioners ’ within the meaning of subdivision 5 of Section 1296 of the Civil Practice Act? ”
The record discloses that tolls of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority are payable either in cash or by the presentation of prepaid toll tickets, the latter method of payment being frequently employed by business concerns which regularly use the bridges and tunnels operated by the Authority. Such concerns purchase books of toll tickets from the Authority which are then given to the drivers of company vehicles for use in payment of the toll charges.
On July 21, 1950, one John Berninger, employed as a bridge and tunnel officer at the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge, reported to his superior, Lieutenant Milton Rogers, that unused prepaid toll tickets, which had been misappropriated from their owners by truck drivers or other persons, were being sold to bridge and tunnel officers for less than face value — usually at half price. According to Berninger, tickets thus acquired were being included by certain bridge officers among daily toll receipts, the officers withdrawing and retaining cash equal to the full value of the prepaid toll tickets thus substituted. Lieutenant Rogers, who was then acting captain in charge of the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge, thereupon reported Berninger’s conversation to his superior and — at the latter’s suggestion — requested Berninger to obtain as much information as possible about the corrupt transactions. In accord with direction by Lieutenant Rogers, Berninger continued in his position and in so doing not only participated in the unlawful manipulation of tolls, but gathered and relayed to his superior detailed information regarding the misappropriations and the persons involved therein.
On September 28, 1950, Berninger and several bridge and tunnel officers were summoned to the office of the District Attorney of Bronx County where they were questioned with regard to the handling of toll tickets and notified of their suspension from duty pending investigation by the Bridge Authority, Although [430]*430Berninger on that occasion was told of his suspension in the presence of the other suspected employees, that notification was not intended to be effective but had as its sole purpose the concealment of Berninger’s identity as an informer for the Bridge Authority. Berninger himself was apprehensive of the safety of himself and his family if his co-operation with the bridge authority as an informer should become known, and it was at his request that he was ostensibly suspended from duty and later was served with formal charges of misconduct.
On the day of their appearance at the District Attorney’s office, the suspected employees — including the petitioners herein —■ determined to consult an attorney, and, on the following day, September 29, 1950, all or most of such employees, including Berninger, called upon Asher W. Schwartz, whom they retained to serve as their attorney in whatever proceeding should eventuate. It is Berninger’s testimony that he continued to fear his status as an informer might become known if he did not accompany his fellow employees to the attorney’s office. The following excerpt from Berninger’s testimony bears upon our inquiry:
“ Mr. Schwartz [counsel for petitioners and Berninger]: After I met that group and with all discussing the case with me and the trouble you were in, I interviewed each man personally, is that correct?
“ Mr. Berninger: Yes, sir.
“ Mr. Schwartz: And you came in to me personally, is that right?
“ Mr. Berninger: That is right.
“ Mr. Schwartz: At that time, didn’t I say to you at the outset that you were coming to me as a client to a lawyer and that whatever you told me in that discussion would be privileged and that I was not free to disclose to anybody, including any union official or any other party to these proceedings?
“ Mr. Berninger: I believe so.
“ Mr. Schwartz: And I told you that I would not disclose that, is that correct?
“ Mr. Berninger: That is correct.”
On October 14, 1950, formal charges of misconduct, together with notice of hearings to commence on October 18th were served upon petitioners and Berninger. Three days later, on October [431]*43117, 1950, the petitioners and Berninger again consulted their attorney, on which occasion Berninger gave no indication that the charges against him were not valid. In the afternoon of the date of that conference, the attorney contacted the attorney for the Authority and then furnished the names of the suspended officers by whom he had been retained to represent them at the hearings. Included among the names so listed was that of the informer Berninger.
At the hearings upon the charges, commencing on October 18, 1950, Berninger testified as a witness for the Authority, at which time his status as an informer was not revealed. Although the petitioners’ attorney was not present at the next hearing on October 19th, he appeared on the following day at which time Berninger informed him that his retainer was withdrawn. At the hearing of October 23d Berninger again testified as a witness for the Authority and on that occasion he frankly admitted his role as a “ checker ” and recited in detail his activities leading up to the filing of charges against himself and the petitioners herein.
It thus appears from an affidavit filed by Berninger and from his testimony that for a period of more than two months he acted as a “ checker or informer ” for the Authority in furtherance of its investigation to determine whether there existed misconduct and neglect of duty among the bridge and tunnel officers as toll collectors at the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge. It also appears that, although Berninger and each of the petitioners had received from the Authority a notice of hearings to be held upon charges made against them, in which notice each was advised of his right to be “ represented by counsel ”, he participated in conferences — of which the first was on September 29, 1950 — when he and the petitioners consulted with the attorney whom he and they had retained, without his revealing the fact that since July 21,1950, he had acted as an informer for the Authority in furtherance of its investigation.
Upon evidence to which reference is made above the learned Justice at Special Term concluded (200 Misc. 196, 197-198): ‘‘ The proceedings are not void if petitioner is not represented by counsel. They only assume that aspect if respondent deprives nim of that right. Respondent [the Authority] denies sending Berninger to the consultation or having prior knowledge that [432]*432he would attend it. It is claimed that Berninger’s presence resulted from his own act induced by a fear to disclose his true relationship to the situation. It is argued that any loss of rights which resulted from Berninger’s act, as far as the authority is concerned, is fortuitous. This argument overlooks the fact that the respondent used Berninger for a special purpose and it would be drawing too fine a line to hold that his authority did not go to the extent of attending the meeting.”
We think the following statements by Lieutenant Rogers — Berninger’s superior officer — in his affidavit of record before us, afford ample support for the conclusion reached at Special Term and affirmed at the Appellate Division: After referring to the fact that on July 21st, Berninger had told him of having observed “ mishandling of prepaid toll tickets ” by certain bridge and tunnel officers, the affidavit by Lieutenant Rogers states in part: “ Mr. Berninger said that he did not want to get involved in these transactions, which were becoming wide-spread among the men employed at the bridge. I reported this conversation to the Assistant Superintendent of Operations of the Authority and upon his advice the next day I suggested to Mr. Berninger that he endeavor to find out as much as he could about the transactions and, if necessary, participate in them, and to report in detail to me with respect to each transaction. * * * Thereafter, commencing on or about August 1st, Mr. Berninger reported to me from time to time, both orally and in writing, transactions involving the purchase of prepaid toll tickets by certain of the Bridge and Tunnel Officers and the distribution of these and other wrongfully acquired tickets among certain of the officers at the bridge and the deposits of these tickets in lieu of cash tolls with daily toll receipts turned in by the men. * * # He said that he saw certain of the accused men from time to time and on these occasions acted as though he too was under charges. For his safety I advised him to continue the pretext. * * * Mr. Berninger also told me that to avoid suspicion he had gone along with a group of the accused men to the law office of O’Donnell & Schwarts, who had been retained by all, or practically all, of the 14 or 15 men who had been suspended pending hearings on charges of misconduct in the handling of the toll tickets. Mr. Berninger said that he and the other men had told Mr. Schwartz [433]*433that they wanted him to act as their attorney” (emphasis supplied).
The right accorded to the petitioners to be represented by counsel at hearings upon charges filed against them with regard to toll-ticket manipulation involved more than the mere privilege of being accompanied by an attorney at the hearings. It included the right to private consultation with the attorney of their choice free from the presence of an informer or ‘ ‘ checker ’ ’ who, as such, was following instructions given him by a responsible agent of the Authority. As was said by Judge Desmond in People v. McLaughlin (291 N. Y. 480, 482-483): “ To give it [the right to counsel] ‘ life and effect *■ * * it must be held to confer upon the relator every privilege which will make the presence of counsel upon the trial a valuable right, and this must include a private interview with his counsel prior to the trial ’
Appellant asserts that, even assuming Berninger attended the consultations as agent for the Authority, petitioners have not shown any prejudice resulting to their rights from his presence and, accordingly, the determination of the Authority should not have been annulled. That contention is based upon subdivision 5 of section 1296 of the Civil Practice Act which provides that one of the questions to be determined in an article 78 proceeding is — “ Whether, in making the determination, any rule of law affecting the rights of the parties thereto has been violated to the prejudice of the petitioner.”
That statute, of course, does not change the fundamental rule that any deprivation of the right to counsel and to a fair trial is, in itself, a basis for annulment of a determination resulting therefrom (U. S. Const., 6th Amendt.; N. Y. Const., art. I, § 6; People v. McLaughlin, 291 N. Y. 480, 482-483, supra). Indeed, as to the application of that fundamental rule, it has been said: ( ‘ ‘ The right to have the assistance of counsel is too fundamental j and absolute to allow courts to indulge in nice calculations as to the amount of prejudice arising from its denial ” (Glasser v. United States, 315 U. S. 60, 76; see, also, Coplon v. United States, 191 F. 2d 749, 760, certiorari denied 342 U. S. 926).
The suggestion that the cases last cited above do not apply to the present proceeding, inasmuch as we are here concerned with a disciplinary proceeding rather than a criminal action, is with[434]*434out merit. Upon that aspect of the case we think what was written in Matter of Greenebaum v. Bingham (201 N. Y. 343, 347) — a case involving disciplinary action against a police officer — applies here with equal force: “ While the hearing may be more or less informal, the trial must be -fair in all substantial respects. Some latitude is allowed as to rules of evidence, methods of examination and the like, but no essential element of a fair trial can be dispensed with unless waived, and no vital safeguard violated without rendering the judgment of conviction subject to reversal upon review. ” (See, also, Glasser v. United States, supra, p. 76.)
The order appealed from should be affirmed, with costs. Each of the certified questions should be answered in the affirmative.