Cordero v. Olson Associates PC

District Court, D. Utah·Decided May 19, 2025·No. 2:23-cv-00756·Unknown

Opinion

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF UTAH CENTRAL DIVISION

HEIDI CORDERO, MEMORANDUM DECISION AND Plaintiff, ORDER GRANTING IN PART AND DENYING IN PART DEFENDANTS’ v. MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER (DOC. NO. 51) OLSON ASSOCIATES P.C. dba OLSON SHANER; RANDOLPH CHIP SHANER Case No. 2:23-cv-00756 JR.; ROB KOLKMAN; CONSTABLE KOLKMAN LLC; N.A.R. INC.; and JOHN District Judge Jill N. Parrish DOES 1-5, Magistrate Judge Daphne A. Oberg Defendants.

Heidi Cordero filed this action alleging Defendants collectively engaged in unlawful debt collection practices.1 Olson Associates, P.C.; Randolph Chip Shaner Jr.; and N.A.R., Inc. (collectively, the Law Firm Defendants) have filed a motion for a protective order (1) prohibiting Ms. Cordero’s counsel, Eric Stephenson, from making his own personal recordings of depositions in this case, and (2) requiring Mr. Stephenson to destroy previous deposition recordings he made without the Law Firm Defendants’ knowledge.2 Ms. Cordero opposes the motion, arguing (among other things) the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure do not prohibit her counsel from recording

1 (See Compl., Doc. No. 2.) 2 (Defs. Olson Assocs., P.C., Randolph Chip Shaner, and N.A.R., Inc.’s Mot. for Protective Order (Mot.), Doc. No. 51.) depositions for his personal use.3 Because Rule 30 allows attorneys to make personal recordings after adequate notice, the Law Firm Defendants’ motion is granted in part and denied in part. Mr. Stephenson must destroy all prior recordings made without notice, but he may—after adequate notice—record future depositions for his personal use. BACKGROUND In January 2025, Mr. Stephenson served notices of deposition of Rob Kolkman and Olson Associates.4 The notices stated the depositions would “be taken before a certified shorthand reporter and may also be recorded by audio or audio-visual means pursuant to, and for the purposes permitted by, the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.”5

The depositions were transcribed by a court reporter, but no official audio or video recording was made.6 However, Mr. Stephenson personally recorded the depositions using a “small recording device that he placed on the table next to his laptop.”7 Mr. Stephenson did not inform opposing counsel he was recording the depositions, and the Law Firm Defendants’ counsel, Ronald Price, was unaware Mr. Stephenson was

3 (Mem. in Opp’n to Mot. for Protective Order (Opp’n) 2–8, Doc. No. 57.) 4 (Mot. 2, Doc. No. 51.) 5 (Ex. 1 to Mot., Notices of Dep. of Rob Kolkman and Olson Assocs., P.C., Doc. No. 51- 1 at 7, 11.) 6 (Mot. 2–3, Doc. No. 51.) 7 (Id. at 4.) recording the depositions—Mr. Price “did not recognize the recording device for what it was.”8 During a later deposition in a different case with the same counsel, the court reporter informed Mr. Price that “Mr. Stephenson was making his own personal recording of the deposition.”9 Counsel then argued over whether Mr. Stephenson could make his own personal recording and, during this conversation, Mr. Price learned Mr. Stephenson had also recorded the Kolkman and Olson Associates depositions.10 Mr. Price believes “Mr. Stephenson’s recording device was recording even during off the record discussions” during the deposition.11

The Law Firm Defendants then filed the instant motion, seeking an order (1) prohibiting Mr. Stephenson “from making his own personal recordings of depositions in this case,” and (2) requiring Mr. Stephenson to destroy his recordings of the Kolkman and Olson Associates depositions.12 The Law Firm Defendants argue the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure “do not permit a party or their counsel to make their own personal recordings of a deposition.”13 Instead, they contend, Rule 30 only permits a qualified “officer” to make audio recordings of a deposition, and Rule 28 (which

8 (Id.) 9 (See id. at 3.) 10 (Id. at 4.) 11 (Id.) 12 (Id. at 1.) 13 (Id. at 5.) defines deposition officers) expressly prohibits a party’s attorney from being a deposition officer.14 The Law Firm Defendants also argue that even if an attorney can personally record a deposition, Mr. Stephenson did not provide adequate notice, where Rule 30 requires deposition notices to state “the method for recording the testimony.”15 Ms. Cordero raises several arguments in response. First, she argues the Law Firm Defendants “failed to allege any harm, damage, or prejudice.”16 Next, Ms. Cordero argues the Law Firm Defendants “waived their right to object” to the Kolkman and Olson Associates recordings because they did not object during the depositions.17 Ms. Cordero also argues the work-product doctrine protects the recordings.18 Further, Ms.

Cordero argues “Rule 30 only regulates the official record,” but it does not prohibit attorneys from recording depositions for their own personal purposes, such as “aiding memory retention, improving focus during questioning, and enhancing trial preparation.”19 Ms. Cordero also contends Rule 30’s notice provision does not apply to personal use recordings—meaning her counsel is not required to provide notice before recording a deposition for personal use.20 But even if notice is required, Ms. Cordero

14 (See id. at 5–7.) 15 (See id. at 5 (quoting Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(3)(A)); id. at 7–8.) 16 (Opp’n 2, Doc. No. 57.) 17 (See id.) 18 (See id. at 8–10.) 19 (See id. at 2–8.) 20 (See id. at 3.) argues, the deposition notices “clearly alerted the parties” Mr. Stephenson would record the deposition.21 Relatedly, Ms. Cordero argues the Law Firm Defendants had notice because the parties “could see [Mr. Stephenson’s] recording device openly placed on the table.”22 LEGAL STANDARDS Rule 30(b)(3) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure governs the method of recording depositions23 and provides, in relevant part: (A) Method Stated in the Notice. The party who notices the deposition must state in the notice the method for recording the testimony. Unless the court orders otherwise, testimony may be recorded by audio, audiovisual, or stenographic means. . . .

(B) Additional Method. With prior notice to the deponent and other parties, any party may designate another method for recording the testimony in addition to that specified in the original notice.24

Separately, Rule 30(b)(5) governs the duties of the “officer” before whom a deposition must be taken.25 Specifically, Rule 30(b)(5)(A) provides that “[u]nless the parties stipulate otherwise, a deposition must be conducted before an officer appointed

21 (Id.) 22 (Id.) 23 See Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(3) (entitled “Method of Recording”). 24 Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(3)(A)–(B). 25 See Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(b)(5) (entitled “Officer’s Duties”). or designated under Rule 28.”26 Rule 28(c) expressly disqualifies a party’s attorney from serving as the deposition officer.27 ANALYSIS The federal rules do not prohibit counsel from recording a deposition for personal use. But Rule 30 requires counsel to provide adequate notice before doing so. Accordingly, Mr. Stephenson may record future depositions for personal use.

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