OPINION
KELLY, Judge.
¶ 1 Appellant Cardinal & Stachel, P.C., (“the law firm”) appeals from the trial court’s dismissal of its claim against Kieran Curtiss for attorney fees incurred by his wife Leela, who died while their marriage dissolution proceedings were pending. The law firm maintains the court erred in determining the fees were not community debts for which Kieran was liable after his wife’s death. We agree and therefore reverse the trial court's judgment.
Background
¶ 2 “On review of a trial court’s decision granting a motion to dismiss, we assume the truth of the allegations set forth in the complaint. ...”
Mohave Disposal, Inc. v. City of
Kingman,
186 Ariz. 343, 346, 922 P.2d 308, 311 (1996). In May 2008, Leela Curtiss entered into a fee agreement with the law firm “for Representation and Advice Related to: Dissolution of Marriage/Legal Separation; Temporary Orders.” Leela died in May 2009 and the dissolution case was dismissed that month.
¶ 3 The law firm brought this action in June 2009, seeking to recover its fees from Kieran, as Leela’s widower, and from Leela’s estate.
Kieran, “in his individual capacity,” moved to dismiss the complaint, arguing the law firm had failed to state a claim upon which relief could be granted.
See
Ariz. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(6). Stating it would consider “only the issues of whether the attorney’s fees are considered Community Debt and ... ‘necessaries,’” the trial court reasoned the fees were not community debts because they were incurred to destroy the community, granted Kieran’s motion, and dismissed the ease. This appeal followed.
Discussion
¶4 The law firm contends the trial court erred in granting Kieran’s motion to dismiss. It maintains that because debts incurred during a marriage are presumed to be community debts and because the Curtiss’s marriage was never dissolved, it is entitled to collect from Kieran the legal fees Leela incurred during the dissolution proceeding. “Generally, we review a trial court’s grant of a motion to dismiss for abuse of discretion, but we review issues of statutory interpretation de novo.”
T.P. Racing, L.L.L.P. v. Ariz. Dep’t of Racing,
223 Ariz. 257, ¶ 8, 222 P.3d 280, 282 (App.2009). And, we will “uphold dismissal only if the plaintiffs would not be entitled to relief under any facts susceptible of proof in the statement of the claim.”
Mohave Disposal,
186 Adz. at 346, 922 P.2d at 311.
¶ 5 The transcripts of the proceedings have not been made part of the record on appeal. Generally, in the absence of transcripts, we presume they support the trial court’s factual findings and rulings,
Kohler v. Kohler,
211 Ariz. 106, n. 1, 118 P.3d 621, 623 n. 1 (App.2005).
But, in this case, the trial court made clear in its ruling that it was addressing solely the legal issue of whether attorney fees incurred in a divorce proceeding can be community debt. And, because Kieran moved to dismiss the petition pursuant to Rule 12(b)(6), the tidal court could not have considered evidence outside the pleadings without converting the motion to one for summary judgment, which it did not do.
See
Ariz. R. Civ. P. 12. Thus we address this legal question of first impression in this state on its merits.
¶ 6 “Generally, all debts incurred during marriage are presumed to be community obligations unless there is clear and convincing evidence to the contrary.”
Schlaefer v. Fin. Mgmt. Serv., Inc.,
196 Ariz. 336, ¶ 10, 996 P.2d 745, 748 (App.2000). As exceptions to this general rule, the legislature has set forth several instances in which “joinder of both spouses is required” in order to bind the community. AR.S. § 25-214. Section 25-214 requires such joinder after service of a petition for dissolution of marriage when that petition ends in dissolution, but it does not require joinder for fees incurred before the petition is filed, or for fees incurred when no dissolution ultimately occurs.
¶ 7 Outside of the specific exceptions set forth in § 25-214, “[t]he test of whether an obligation is a community debt” is whether the obligation is “ ‘intended to benefit the community.’ ”
Schlaefer,
196 Ariz. 336, ¶ 10, 996 P.2d at 748,
quoting Phoenix Baptist
Hosp. & Med. Ctr., Inc. v. Aiken,
179 Ariz. 289, 294, 877 P.2d 1345, 1350 (App.1994);
see also
A.R.S. § 25-215(D) (“Except as prohibited in [A.R.S.] § 25-214, either spouse may contract debts and otherwise act for the benefit of the community.”). We disagree with the trial court’s conclusion that attorney fees incurred during a dissolution proceeding can never be incurred for the benefit of the community and we cannot say these fees are debts in “no way connected with the community and from which the community receives no benefit.”
Hamada v. Valley Nat’l Bank,
27 Ariz.App. 433, 436, 555 P.2d 1121, 1124 (1976). Indeed, although initially counterin-tuitive in the context of dissolution proceedings, in some eases the community may benefit from the orderly and lawful division of assets, including temporary orders which protect community assets. And, in certain circumstances, the advice of counsel and the entry of temporary orders providing for a spouse’s necessary living expenses may, when coupled with mediation or counseling, actually preserve the marriage.
¶ 8 Our legislature has viewed legal representation as sufficiently important to the dissolution process to include it, along with “necessities of life” in the expenditures either party may make from community assets after [the] filing of a petition for dissolution.
AR.S. § 25-315(A)(l)(a). Likewise, in discussing whether attorney fees could be awarded to a spouse who was not destitute under A.R.S. § 25-324, this court recognized the principle that
“every
spouse ... owes a duty of support to his or her marital partner,” and that duty extends to the payment of dissolution-incurred attorney fees under certain circumstances.
Magee v. Magee,
206 Ariz. 589, ¶ 14, 81 P.3d 1048, 1051 (App.2004).
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OPINION
KELLY, Judge.
¶ 1 Appellant Cardinal & Stachel, P.C., (“the law firm”) appeals from the trial court’s dismissal of its claim against Kieran Curtiss for attorney fees incurred by his wife Leela, who died while their marriage dissolution proceedings were pending. The law firm maintains the court erred in determining the fees were not community debts for which Kieran was liable after his wife’s death. We agree and therefore reverse the trial court's judgment.
Background
¶ 2 “On review of a trial court’s decision granting a motion to dismiss, we assume the truth of the allegations set forth in the complaint. ...”
Mohave Disposal, Inc. v. City of
Kingman,
186 Ariz. 343, 346, 922 P.2d 308, 311 (1996). In May 2008, Leela Curtiss entered into a fee agreement with the law firm “for Representation and Advice Related to: Dissolution of Marriage/Legal Separation; Temporary Orders.” Leela died in May 2009 and the dissolution case was dismissed that month.
¶ 3 The law firm brought this action in June 2009, seeking to recover its fees from Kieran, as Leela’s widower, and from Leela’s estate.
Kieran, “in his individual capacity,” moved to dismiss the complaint, arguing the law firm had failed to state a claim upon which relief could be granted.
See
Ariz. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(6). Stating it would consider “only the issues of whether the attorney’s fees are considered Community Debt and ... ‘necessaries,’” the trial court reasoned the fees were not community debts because they were incurred to destroy the community, granted Kieran’s motion, and dismissed the ease. This appeal followed.
Discussion
¶4 The law firm contends the trial court erred in granting Kieran’s motion to dismiss. It maintains that because debts incurred during a marriage are presumed to be community debts and because the Curtiss’s marriage was never dissolved, it is entitled to collect from Kieran the legal fees Leela incurred during the dissolution proceeding. “Generally, we review a trial court’s grant of a motion to dismiss for abuse of discretion, but we review issues of statutory interpretation de novo.”
T.P. Racing, L.L.L.P. v. Ariz. Dep’t of Racing,
223 Ariz. 257, ¶ 8, 222 P.3d 280, 282 (App.2009). And, we will “uphold dismissal only if the plaintiffs would not be entitled to relief under any facts susceptible of proof in the statement of the claim.”
Mohave Disposal,
186 Adz. at 346, 922 P.2d at 311.
¶ 5 The transcripts of the proceedings have not been made part of the record on appeal. Generally, in the absence of transcripts, we presume they support the trial court’s factual findings and rulings,
Kohler v. Kohler,
211 Ariz. 106, n. 1, 118 P.3d 621, 623 n. 1 (App.2005).
But, in this case, the trial court made clear in its ruling that it was addressing solely the legal issue of whether attorney fees incurred in a divorce proceeding can be community debt. And, because Kieran moved to dismiss the petition pursuant to Rule 12(b)(6), the tidal court could not have considered evidence outside the pleadings without converting the motion to one for summary judgment, which it did not do.
See
Ariz. R. Civ. P. 12. Thus we address this legal question of first impression in this state on its merits.
¶ 6 “Generally, all debts incurred during marriage are presumed to be community obligations unless there is clear and convincing evidence to the contrary.”
Schlaefer v. Fin. Mgmt. Serv., Inc.,
196 Ariz. 336, ¶ 10, 996 P.2d 745, 748 (App.2000). As exceptions to this general rule, the legislature has set forth several instances in which “joinder of both spouses is required” in order to bind the community. AR.S. § 25-214. Section 25-214 requires such joinder after service of a petition for dissolution of marriage when that petition ends in dissolution, but it does not require joinder for fees incurred before the petition is filed, or for fees incurred when no dissolution ultimately occurs.
¶ 7 Outside of the specific exceptions set forth in § 25-214, “[t]he test of whether an obligation is a community debt” is whether the obligation is “ ‘intended to benefit the community.’ ”
Schlaefer,
196 Ariz. 336, ¶ 10, 996 P.2d at 748,
quoting Phoenix Baptist
Hosp. & Med. Ctr., Inc. v. Aiken,
179 Ariz. 289, 294, 877 P.2d 1345, 1350 (App.1994);
see also
A.R.S. § 25-215(D) (“Except as prohibited in [A.R.S.] § 25-214, either spouse may contract debts and otherwise act for the benefit of the community.”). We disagree with the trial court’s conclusion that attorney fees incurred during a dissolution proceeding can never be incurred for the benefit of the community and we cannot say these fees are debts in “no way connected with the community and from which the community receives no benefit.”
Hamada v. Valley Nat’l Bank,
27 Ariz.App. 433, 436, 555 P.2d 1121, 1124 (1976). Indeed, although initially counterin-tuitive in the context of dissolution proceedings, in some eases the community may benefit from the orderly and lawful division of assets, including temporary orders which protect community assets. And, in certain circumstances, the advice of counsel and the entry of temporary orders providing for a spouse’s necessary living expenses may, when coupled with mediation or counseling, actually preserve the marriage.
¶ 8 Our legislature has viewed legal representation as sufficiently important to the dissolution process to include it, along with “necessities of life” in the expenditures either party may make from community assets after [the] filing of a petition for dissolution.
AR.S. § 25-315(A)(l)(a). Likewise, in discussing whether attorney fees could be awarded to a spouse who was not destitute under A.R.S. § 25-324, this court recognized the principle that
“every
spouse ... owes a duty of support to his or her marital partner,” and that duty extends to the payment of dissolution-incurred attorney fees under certain circumstances.
Magee v. Magee,
206 Ariz. 589, ¶ 14, 81 P.3d 1048, 1051 (App.2004).
¶ 9 Additionally, we note that in a community where children are present, child custody will be determined in the dissolution proceeding and the best interests of the child must be served in that determination. A.R.S. § 25-403. Thus, attorneys for the spouses also play a role in benefiting the children of the community in dissolution.
Cf. Bustos v. Gilroy,
106 N.M. 808, 751 P.2d 188, 190-91 (N.M.Ct.App.1988) (although concluding attorney fees not presumptively community debt, finding fees relating to child custody issues community debt in light of statute providing that debts are community unless, inter alia, they do not benefit “spouses or their dependents”).
¶ 10 In order to constitute community debt, a debt need not be incurred with the primary intent of benefiting the community.
Hofmann Co. v. Meisner,
17 Ariz.App. 263, 268, 497 P.2d 83, 88 (App.1972). Rather “[a]ll that is required is that some benefit was intended for the community.”
Id.
Furthermore, no actual pecuniary benefit need be received by the community.
Lorenz-Auxier Fin. Group, Inc. v. Bidewell,
160 Ariz. 218, 220, 772 P.2d 41, 43 (App.1989). Thus, the fact that attorney fees may benefit the client spouse more than the community as a whole is not determinative; rather, there need only be some intent to benefit the community. If such intent exists, the attorney fees can be a community debt, despite the fact the proceeding in which they are incurred ultimately will divide the community assets and terminate the community.
¶ 11 As the law firm points out, Kieran has not cited, nor has our review found, “any cases in other community property jurisdictions that
disallow
attorney’s fees incun’ed in dissolution of marriage actions.” Although the cases the law firm cites in support of its argument are distinguishable based upon differences in state law, they generally support the proposition that attorney fees incurred in a dissolution action can, under some circumstances, be community debt. As noted above, even though New Mexico courts have rejected the argument that such fees are presumptively community debt, they have characterized fees incurred in relation to child custody matters as community debt.
See Bustos,
751 P.2d at 190-91. Louisiana provides by statute that these fees are community debt. La. Civ.Code Ann. art. 2362.1 (2009) (“An obligation incurred before the date of a judgment of divorce for attorney fees and costs in an action for divorce and in incidental actions is deemed to be a community obligation.”);
Carroll v. Carroll,
753 So.2d 395, 395-96 (La.Ct.App.2000).
And, although it was not the primary issue before the court, in
Wileman v. Wade,
the Texas Court of Appeals accepted a trial court’s finding that attorney fees incurred by a wife during a dissolution action were community debt. 665 S.W.2d 519, 520 (Tex.App.1983);
see also Sandone v. Miller-Sandone,
116 S.W.3d 204, 205, 208 (Tex.App.2003) (stating “attorney’s fees incurred in connection with the divorce are presumptively a community debt” and court “may apportion [them] ... as part of a just and right division of property.”). In sum, other community property states have identified circumstances in which attorney fees incurred in dissolution are community debt.
¶ 12 We agree that attorney fees incurred in dissolution may, in some circumstances, be community debt. But here, the trial court concluded that attorney fees incurred in a dissolution proceeding could never be community debts, as a matter of law. Thus, on the record before us, the court did not address whether Leela had evinced any intent to benefit the community. Accordingly, on remand the trial court should consider whether Leela intended a benefit to the community and if, therefore, the attorney fees at issue here were community debt. In so doing, the court should disregard Leela’s “subjective intent” and consider “only the surrounding circumstances at the time of the transaction ... in ascertaining h[er] objective intent.”
Hofmann,
17 Ariz.App. at 267, 497 P.2d at 87.
¶ 13 Finally, we note Kieran moved to dismiss “in his individual capacity, and not as the Personal Representative of the Estate of Leela Curtiss.” As mentioned earlier, the trial court stated in its ruling that it would address only the legal issue whether the attorney fees were community debt. But, it dismissed the complaint entirely, not just against Kieran in his individual capacity. The law firm does not specifically challenge the dismissal of the complaint against any such estate.
See
Ariz. R. Civ.App. P. 13(a)(6).
Disposition
¶ 14 The judgment of the trial court, including its award of attorney fees, is reversed as to Kieran Curtiss and the matter is remanded for further proceedings consistent with this decision. The law firm requests an award of its attorney fees and costs incurred in prosecuting this matter on appeal and in the trial court, pursuant to A.R.S. §§ 12-341 and 12-341.01. “Because the award of fees incurred at trial lies within the discretion of the trial court, we remand for that determi
nation [as well].”
Sanders v. Foley,
190 Ariz. 182, 190, 945 P.2d 1313, 1321 (App.1997). On appeal, the law firm is entitled to its costs as the prevailing party,
see
§ 12-341, and that request is granted upon its compliance with Rule 21, Ariz. R. Civ.App. P. In our discretion, however, we deny its request for attorney fees on appeal.
See Schwab Sales, Inc. v. GN Constr. Co.,
196 Ariz. 33, ¶ 14, 992 P.2d 1128, 1132 (App.1998).
CONCURRING: GARYE L. VÁSQUEZ, Presiding Judge and PETER J. ECKERSTROM, Judge.