ANDERSON, Circuit Judge:
This appeal arises in the context of class action securities litigation, settlements, and bar orders.
FACTS AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
Just for Feet (“JFF”), a shoe retailer, sold $200 million in corporate notes (the “Notes”) on April 12, 1999. JFF had recently borrowed $280 million, and the offering was intended to reduce that debt. Soon, however, JFF began reporting very poor financial news. On November 4, 1999, it filed for bankruptcy protection.
Two purchasers of the Notes, AAL High Yield Bond Fund and Delaware Delchester Fund (“Plaintiffs” or “Plaintiffs-Appel-lees”), filed a class action suit against Haines and Ruttenberg, officers of JFF (the “Officers”); Banc of America Securities, the underwriter of the Note offering (“BAS”); and Deloitte & Touche, JFF’s independent outside auditor (“Deloitte”).
Plaintiffs declined to name JFF as a defendant because it had filed for bankruptcy protection. Plaintiffs alleged four violations of federal securities law and one violation of Alabama law.
Plaintiffs and the Officers agreed to settle on May 10, 2002.
The district court preliminarily approved the settlement, and after hearing and overruling the objections to the settlement discussed immediately below, it entered an order certifying the class and approving the settlement.
Blue Ridge Investments, Atlantic Equity Corp. (collectively, the “Objectors”), and defendant BAS objected to the proposed settlement, arguing they should have been included in the plaintiff class. Each had purchased Notes, albeit not in the initial Note offering, and collectively possess 64% of the total Notes. Plaintiffs-Appellees allege that BAS and the Objectors only purchased Notes as part of a mitigation effort when JFF began to falter. BAS and the Objectors have the same corporate parent, Bank of America Corp. and, again, BAS underwrote the Note offering.
The district court excluded from the class “any underwriter who participated in the JFF Notes offering” and “divisions, affiliates, and subsidiaries of JFF, defendant Deloitte & Touche LLP (‘Deloitte’), defendant Banc of America Securities!).]” Thus, BAS was excluded from the plaintiff class by name and as an underwriter of the Notes offering. The Objectors were excluded because they are affiliates of BAS.
This case contains some curious wrinkles. Despite having underwritten the ill-fated Note offering and being a defendant in this litigation, BAS argued to the district court that it should have been included in the plaintiff class because it was a purchaser of Notes. It has declined to renew that argument on appeal, and the argument is deemed abandoned as to BAS. The Objectors, in contrast, persist on appeal in attempting to join the plaintiff class despite being affiliates of defendant BAS, sharing counsel with BAS, and referring to themselves and BAS as a single entity at least once in court submissions. The Objectors argue that the district court overruled their objections to the class settlement on clearly erroneous grounds because it believed they were subsidiaries of defendant BAS when, in fact, the Objectors and BAS are all subsidiaries of a fourth corporation, Bank of America.
Additionally, BAS and Deloitte appeal a provision in the Final Judgment and Order of Dismissal with Prejudice approving the Officers settlement which bars all present and future claims by Deloitte and BAS against the Officers and others.
ISSUES
This appeal presents two issues: (1) the Objectors present the issue of whether the Objectors, who were excluded from the class before certification and settlement, may appeal the denial of their objections to the certification and settlement without first moving to intervene in the action; and (2) BAS and Deloitte present the issue of whether the bar order in the settlement agreement is impermissibly broad.
We hold that the Objectors, non-intervening nonparties, are not permitted to appeal, and we vacate and remand the bar order.
DISCUSSION
A.
Are the Objectors “Parties” for the Purposes of This Appeal?
Plaintiffs-Appellees argue that the Objectors may not appeal the settlement because they are not class members and have not moved to intervene. We agree. Because the Objectors are not a party to this action and have not moved to intervene, we cannot not hear their appeal.
“The rule that only parties to a lawsuit, or those that properly become parties, may appeal an adverse judgment, is well settled.”
Marino v. Ortiz,
484 U.S. 301, 304, 108 S.Ct. 586, 587-88, 98 L.Ed.2d 629 (1988). The Objectors here are not parties. Thus, they could only appeal the denial of their objections to the class settlement if they had intervened in the action.
The Objectors argue that the Supreme Court’s recent decision in
Devlin v. Scardelletti,
536 U.S. 1, 122 S.Ct. 2005, 153 L.Ed.2d 27 (2002), requires a different result. We disagree.
Devlin
held that nonnamed members of class actions who have timely objected to a class settlement may appeal the denial of their objections without first moving to intervene.
Id.
at 14, 122 S.Ct. at 2013. The Supreme Court framed the issue not as a jurisdictional question,
but rather as a matter of determining whether the non-named class member qualified as a “party” for purposes of Fed. RApp. P. 3(c).
Id.
(citing
Marino,
484 U.S. at 304, 108 S.Ct. at 587-88). Nonnamed class members who timely object to binding settlements qualify as “parties,” the Court held, primarily because they are bound by the judgments they seek to challenge:
What is most important to this case is that nonnamed class members are parties to the proceedings in the sense of being bound by the settlement.... Particularly in light of the fact that petitioner had no ability to opt out of the settlement, appealing the approval of the settlement is petitioner’s only means of protecting himself from being bound by a disposition of his rights he finds unacceptable and that a reviewing court might find legally inadequate.
Id.
at 10-11, 122 S.Ct. at 2011 (citation omitted);
see also id.
at 9, 122 S.Ct. at 2010 (“The District Court’s approval of the settlement — -which binds petitioner as a member of the class — amounted to a ‘final decision of [petitioner’s] right or claim’ sufficient to trigger his right to appeal.”).
The Objectors first argue that
Devlin
permits their appeal because they could have or should have been included in the
plaintiff class.
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ANDERSON, Circuit Judge:
This appeal arises in the context of class action securities litigation, settlements, and bar orders.
FACTS AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
Just for Feet (“JFF”), a shoe retailer, sold $200 million in corporate notes (the “Notes”) on April 12, 1999. JFF had recently borrowed $280 million, and the offering was intended to reduce that debt. Soon, however, JFF began reporting very poor financial news. On November 4, 1999, it filed for bankruptcy protection.
Two purchasers of the Notes, AAL High Yield Bond Fund and Delaware Delchester Fund (“Plaintiffs” or “Plaintiffs-Appel-lees”), filed a class action suit against Haines and Ruttenberg, officers of JFF (the “Officers”); Banc of America Securities, the underwriter of the Note offering (“BAS”); and Deloitte & Touche, JFF’s independent outside auditor (“Deloitte”).
Plaintiffs declined to name JFF as a defendant because it had filed for bankruptcy protection. Plaintiffs alleged four violations of federal securities law and one violation of Alabama law.
Plaintiffs and the Officers agreed to settle on May 10, 2002.
The district court preliminarily approved the settlement, and after hearing and overruling the objections to the settlement discussed immediately below, it entered an order certifying the class and approving the settlement.
Blue Ridge Investments, Atlantic Equity Corp. (collectively, the “Objectors”), and defendant BAS objected to the proposed settlement, arguing they should have been included in the plaintiff class. Each had purchased Notes, albeit not in the initial Note offering, and collectively possess 64% of the total Notes. Plaintiffs-Appellees allege that BAS and the Objectors only purchased Notes as part of a mitigation effort when JFF began to falter. BAS and the Objectors have the same corporate parent, Bank of America Corp. and, again, BAS underwrote the Note offering.
The district court excluded from the class “any underwriter who participated in the JFF Notes offering” and “divisions, affiliates, and subsidiaries of JFF, defendant Deloitte & Touche LLP (‘Deloitte’), defendant Banc of America Securities!).]” Thus, BAS was excluded from the plaintiff class by name and as an underwriter of the Notes offering. The Objectors were excluded because they are affiliates of BAS.
This case contains some curious wrinkles. Despite having underwritten the ill-fated Note offering and being a defendant in this litigation, BAS argued to the district court that it should have been included in the plaintiff class because it was a purchaser of Notes. It has declined to renew that argument on appeal, and the argument is deemed abandoned as to BAS. The Objectors, in contrast, persist on appeal in attempting to join the plaintiff class despite being affiliates of defendant BAS, sharing counsel with BAS, and referring to themselves and BAS as a single entity at least once in court submissions. The Objectors argue that the district court overruled their objections to the class settlement on clearly erroneous grounds because it believed they were subsidiaries of defendant BAS when, in fact, the Objectors and BAS are all subsidiaries of a fourth corporation, Bank of America.
Additionally, BAS and Deloitte appeal a provision in the Final Judgment and Order of Dismissal with Prejudice approving the Officers settlement which bars all present and future claims by Deloitte and BAS against the Officers and others.
ISSUES
This appeal presents two issues: (1) the Objectors present the issue of whether the Objectors, who were excluded from the class before certification and settlement, may appeal the denial of their objections to the certification and settlement without first moving to intervene in the action; and (2) BAS and Deloitte present the issue of whether the bar order in the settlement agreement is impermissibly broad.
We hold that the Objectors, non-intervening nonparties, are not permitted to appeal, and we vacate and remand the bar order.
DISCUSSION
A.
Are the Objectors “Parties” for the Purposes of This Appeal?
Plaintiffs-Appellees argue that the Objectors may not appeal the settlement because they are not class members and have not moved to intervene. We agree. Because the Objectors are not a party to this action and have not moved to intervene, we cannot not hear their appeal.
“The rule that only parties to a lawsuit, or those that properly become parties, may appeal an adverse judgment, is well settled.”
Marino v. Ortiz,
484 U.S. 301, 304, 108 S.Ct. 586, 587-88, 98 L.Ed.2d 629 (1988). The Objectors here are not parties. Thus, they could only appeal the denial of their objections to the class settlement if they had intervened in the action.
The Objectors argue that the Supreme Court’s recent decision in
Devlin v. Scardelletti,
536 U.S. 1, 122 S.Ct. 2005, 153 L.Ed.2d 27 (2002), requires a different result. We disagree.
Devlin
held that nonnamed members of class actions who have timely objected to a class settlement may appeal the denial of their objections without first moving to intervene.
Id.
at 14, 122 S.Ct. at 2013. The Supreme Court framed the issue not as a jurisdictional question,
but rather as a matter of determining whether the non-named class member qualified as a “party” for purposes of Fed. RApp. P. 3(c).
Id.
(citing
Marino,
484 U.S. at 304, 108 S.Ct. at 587-88). Nonnamed class members who timely object to binding settlements qualify as “parties,” the Court held, primarily because they are bound by the judgments they seek to challenge:
What is most important to this case is that nonnamed class members are parties to the proceedings in the sense of being bound by the settlement.... Particularly in light of the fact that petitioner had no ability to opt out of the settlement, appealing the approval of the settlement is petitioner’s only means of protecting himself from being bound by a disposition of his rights he finds unacceptable and that a reviewing court might find legally inadequate.
Id.
at 10-11, 122 S.Ct. at 2011 (citation omitted);
see also id.
at 9, 122 S.Ct. at 2010 (“The District Court’s approval of the settlement — -which binds petitioner as a member of the class — amounted to a ‘final decision of [petitioner’s] right or claim’ sufficient to trigger his right to appeal.”).
The Objectors first argue that
Devlin
permits their appeal because they could have or should have been included in the
plaintiff class.
The argument misses the point of
Devlin,
which was to allow appeals by parties who are actually bound by a judgment, not parties who merely
could
have been bound by the judgment.
Id.
at 9, 10-11, 122 S.Ct. 2005, 2010, 2011. Persons who are not class members are not bound at all.
Second, the Objectors argue that they are
effectively
bound by the judgment because it leaves the defendant Officers judgment-proof. That, the Objectors argue, renders their own claims futile. For support, the Objectors cite
Karaha Bodas Co. v. Perusahaan Pertambangan Minyak Dan Gas Bumi Negara,
313 F.3d 70 (2nd Cir.2002), and
Plain v. Murphy Family Farms,
296 F.3d 975 (10th Cir.2002).
Neither case helps the Objectors because each considered very different facts. In
Karaha Bodas,
the Republic of Indonesia was permitted to appeal a judgment that allowed someone to execute against property that the Republic of Indonesia alleged it owned. 313 F.3d at 81-82. In
Plain,
a decedent’s hems were permitted to appeal the division of damages from the wrongful death action resulting from decedent’s death, in which the decedent’s estate representative litigated on behalf of the heirs as well as herself. 296 F.3d at 977-80.
In each case, a nonnamed party appealed a binding judgment disposing of property to which the nonnamed party had a putative legal right. It is perhaps no accident that in each case the nonnamed party likely met the requirements for intervention as of right under Fed.R.Civ.P. 24(a).
The Supreme Court hinted in
Dev-lin
that those instances may be precisely where the appellate courts should consider allowing nonnamed parties to appeal.
See
536 U.S. at 12-13, 122 S.Ct. at 2011-12 (noting that it is “difficult to see the value” of requiring nonnamed objecting class members to intervene because they would easily meet the requirements of Fed. R.Civ.P. 24(a) anyway).
No such circumstances exist here. The Objectors do not
seek to protect their own property, their allotment from an award or settlement, or any other cognizable legal right or interest. They are simply potential plaintiffs who have yet to litigate any claims.
Cf. Brennan v. N.Y. City Bd. of Educ.,
260 F.3d 123, 129 (2nd Cir.2001) (stating that to intervene as of right under Fed.R.Civ.P. 24(a)(2), a nonparty must have a “direct,” “substantial,” and “legally protectable” interest in the action rather than a merely speculative or contingent interest).
Because the Objectors would not qualify as parties even under the most permissive possible reading of
Devlin,
we decline to determine whether and when
Devlin
may apply outside of the mandatory class action context or to pass judgment on
Karaha Bodas
and
Plain.
There is no reason to permit the Objectors to disturb a legal judgment merely because they have outstanding claims they may wish to pursue, and they fear the instant judgment may leave the defendant judgment-proof.
We need not determine the precise breadth of
Devlin
to see that the Objectors clearly stretch it too far.
The Objectors are not a party to this action and therefore cannot appeal it under Fed. R.App. P. 3(c). If they had moved to intervene unsuccessfully, we would have entertained an appeal of the denial of intervention. They have not done so. Therefore, we dismiss their appeal.
B.
The Bar Order
We turn now to the challenge of BAS and Deloitte to a provision in the Final Judgment and Order of Dismissal with Prejudice (herein referred to as the “bar order”) that bars all related present and future claims by Deloitte and non-settling defendant BAS against the Officers, and also bars any such claims against other officers and agents of JFF who are not parties to the instant case. Deloitte and BAS argue that the bar order imper-missibly extends beyond the scope of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, 15 U.S.C. § 78u-4(f)(7)(A) (herein referred to as the “PSLRA”), by precluding, without a proper “settlement credit,” claims for contribution in other pending cases and claims that are truly independent of the settled claims — in both instances precluding claims other than those where the damages are calculated based on the non-settling defendants’ liability to these plaintiffs in this suit.
See, e.g., Gerber v. MTC Elec. Techs. Co., Ltd.,
329 F.3d 297, 306 (2nd Cir.2003). Deloitte and BAS argue that there is no justification, wholly aside from any limitation inherent in the PSLRA, for barring contribution claims by Deloitte and BAS against the Officers that may arise out of causes of action brought by plaintiffs other than the plaintiffs in the settled action, or for barring truly independent claims
(e.g.
claims which are not based on the claimants’ liability to the instant plaintiffs or claims based on damages completely separate from the instant damages) that Deloitte and BAS may have against the Officers. They also argue that there is no justification for barring claims they may have against other officers and agents of JFF who are not parties here.
Appellees argue in brief that our decision in
In re U.S. Oil & Gas Litigation,
967 F.2d 489 (11th Cir.1992), is controlling in this ease. In support of that argument, they now cite as supplemental authority the district court opinion in
State of Wisconsin Investment Board v. Ruttenberg,
300 F.Supp.2d 1210, 2003 WL 23205155 (N.D.Ala. Jan.29, 2004). Because that opinion treated our decision in
U.S. Oil & Gas
as controlling in that case, and because we do not consider
U.S. Oil & Gas
controlling in the instant case, we do not find the Northern District of Alabama case to be persuasive. Although the language of the bar order involved in
U.S. Oil & Gas
was broad, as it is here, the holding of our decision was much more narrow. In that case, we addressed “the merits of Pinnacle’s specific challenge.”
Id.
at 495. We held that the bar order properly barred Pinnacle’s cross-claim. However, Pinnacle’s cross-claim was “an attempt to seek indemnity from A & A for the federal securities law violations alleged against Pinnacle in the complaints” in that very case,
i.e.,
for Pinnacle’s liability to those same plaintiffs.
Id.
With respect to Pinnacle’s “allegedly independent causes of action for fraud and negligence,” we held that “[tjhese claims were not, in fact, independent of Pinnacle’s or A & A’s liability to the plaintiffs.”
Id.
at 495-96. Rather, we noted that “Pinnacle stated in its cross-claim that it ‘seeks damages against A & A and Riley to the extent that it is liable to any of the plaintiffs herein.’ ”
Id.
at 496. The opinion expressly declined to address the issue of “truly independent claims.”
Id.
at 496 n. 5. Thus, we reject the argument that
U.S. Oil & Gas
controls this case.
Indeed, we have found no controlling authority.
In this case, the bar order is exceedingly broad, and the district court made no findings of fact, and expressed no rationale or authority for barring claims without a settlement credit or “set off,” or for barring claims that arise from causes of action brought by plaintiffs other than the instant plaintiffs or truly independent claims. In view of the absence of controlling authority, and the absence of findings of fact detailing the relevant circumstances surrounding the issue in this case, and in the absence of any articulation of the district court justifying the bar order, our review is significantly handicapped; we cannot ascertain whether sufficient justification exists for the bar order entered in this case. We prefer to assess the justification issue in the first instance on the basis of concrete facts found by the district court, and with the assistance of the district court’s full consideration and discussion of all of the relevant facts of the instant case and a full discussion of the relevant persuasive authorities and the underlying reasons and policies justifying whatever order the district court ultimately approves. Thus, we vacate
the bar order and remand
the matter to the district court for reconsideration and entry of an order that is reasonable, fair and equitable.
DISMISSED IN PART, VACATED IN PART, AND REMANDED.