ORDER AFFIRMING MAGISTRATE JUDGE
DIMMICK, Chief Judge.
THIS MATTER comes before the Court on appeal from the order of Magistrate Judge John L. Weinberg denying Appellants’ motion for summary judgment. Having considered Appellants’ brief and supporting materials and the response by the United States, the Court hereby affirms the decision of the magistrate judge.
I.
Appellants both were charged with driving under the influence of alcohol (“DUI”) on Bremerton Naval Base property in violation of RCW 46.61.502(l)(a), which makes it a crime to have a breath- or blood-alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.10 percent or higher within two hours of driving, and 18 U.S.C. §§ 7 and 13, which make it a federal crime for a person on a military base to commit a violation of the criminal law of the state in which the base is located. Appellants moved to dismiss the information, arguing that the DUI provision under which they were charged is unconstitutional. The magistrate judge denied the motion, and the defendants appealed pursuant to Local Rules MJR 12(a), Fed.R.Crim.P. 58(g)(2)(A), Fed. R.App. P. 5(a), and 28 U.S.C. § 1292(b).
II.
Appellants challenge the following provision of ROW 46.61.502:
(1) A person is guilty of driving while under the influence of intoxicating liquor ... if the person drives a vehicle within this state:
(a) And the person has, within two hours after driving, an alcohol concentration of 0.10 or higher as shown by analysis of the person’s breath or blood____
Appellants argue that this “two-hour rule” (1) exceeds the legitimate police powers of the state; (2) creates an impermissible mandatory presumption; and (3) is void for vagueness because (a) it does not define the criminal conduct so that people can understand what conduct is prohibited and (b) it encourages arbitrary enforcement, all in violation of the due process guarantees of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution. Although a few of these arguments have been accepted by at least one state supreme court,
see Commmonwealth v. Barud,
545 Pa. 297, 681 A.2d 162 (1996), and one Washington State Supreme Court justice,
see State v. Crediford,
130 Wash.2d 747, 927 P.2d 1129 (1996) (Sanders, J., concurring in the result), this Court is not persuaded.
A.
The two-hour rule does not exceed the State’s police powers. It is well established that a state’s action violates due process only where it is “clearly arbitrary and unreasonable, having no substantial relation to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare.”
Village of Euclid, Ohio v. Ambler Realty Co.,
272 U.S. 365, 395, 47 S.Ct. 114, 121, 71 L.Ed. 303 (1926). A state’s interest in public safety includes a “paramount interest ... in preserving the safety
of its public highways [by] ... removing drunken drivers from the[ ] highways.”
See Mackey v. Montrym,
443 U.S. 1, 17, 99 S.Ct. 2612, 2620, 61 L.Ed.2d 321 (1979).
Appellants argue that the two-hour rule exceeds the State’s police powers because it could support a criminal conviction of persons who were not “intoxicated” at the time they , actually operated the motor vehicle. This is because a person’s BAC increases for a time after consumption while the alcohol is absorbed into the bloodstream, before it begins to decrease. Thus, it is possible for a person to have a BAC of 0.10 percent within two hours after driving even if his BAC was below 0.10 percent at the time he was driving-
Even so, it cannot be said that the two-hour rule does not bear a substantial relation to the State’s paramount interest in preserving the safety of its roads and highways. To argue that the rule is unconstitutional for effectively making “legal” behavior illegal is implicitly to argue that driving with a 0.10 percent BAC or higher is the only DUI-related behavior that the State can prohibit legitimately.
In other words, Appellants’ argument rests on the false premise that only driving with a BAC of 0.10 percent or higher threatens the public safety. To the contrary, the legislature has decided that driving after having consumed enough alcohol to cause one’s BAC to rise to 0.10 percent within two hours after driving is dangerous to the public. As the Washington State Supreme Court has put it,
the Legislature did not exceed the police power of the State when it enacted a statute that essentially says that a person whose blood or breath alcohol concentration is 0.10 percent or greater should not have been driving an automobile within the previous two hours, regardless of what the driver’s blood or breath alcohol concentration might have been at the time of driving.
State v. Crediford,
130 Wash.2d 747, 744-55, 927 P.2d 1129, 1133 (1996). The 0.10 percent BAC is not some magical bright line between safely drunk and unsafely drunk, and the fact that driving with less than a 0.10 percent BAC may prove to be criminal under the two-hour rule does not mean that the rule is arbitrary or not substantially related to public safety.
B.
The two-hour rule does not create a mandatory presumption. A presumption is an evidentiary device allowing “the trier of fact to determine the existence of an element of the crime — that is, an ‘ultimate’ or ‘elemental’ fact — from the existence of one or more ‘evidentiary’ or ‘basic’ facts.”
County Court of Ulster County, N.Y. v. Allen,
442 U.S.
140, 156, 99
S.Ct. 2213, 2224, 60 L.Ed.2d 777 (1979). In criminal cases, a presumption must not undermine the fact finder’s responsibility to find each element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt.
Id.
Appellants argue that the two-hour rule creates a presumption that, if a defendant is found to have had a 0.10 percent BAC within two hours after driving, he must have had at least a 0.10 percent BAC at the time he was driving.
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ORDER AFFIRMING MAGISTRATE JUDGE
DIMMICK, Chief Judge.
THIS MATTER comes before the Court on appeal from the order of Magistrate Judge John L. Weinberg denying Appellants’ motion for summary judgment. Having considered Appellants’ brief and supporting materials and the response by the United States, the Court hereby affirms the decision of the magistrate judge.
I.
Appellants both were charged with driving under the influence of alcohol (“DUI”) on Bremerton Naval Base property in violation of RCW 46.61.502(l)(a), which makes it a crime to have a breath- or blood-alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.10 percent or higher within two hours of driving, and 18 U.S.C. §§ 7 and 13, which make it a federal crime for a person on a military base to commit a violation of the criminal law of the state in which the base is located. Appellants moved to dismiss the information, arguing that the DUI provision under which they were charged is unconstitutional. The magistrate judge denied the motion, and the defendants appealed pursuant to Local Rules MJR 12(a), Fed.R.Crim.P. 58(g)(2)(A), Fed. R.App. P. 5(a), and 28 U.S.C. § 1292(b).
II.
Appellants challenge the following provision of ROW 46.61.502:
(1) A person is guilty of driving while under the influence of intoxicating liquor ... if the person drives a vehicle within this state:
(a) And the person has, within two hours after driving, an alcohol concentration of 0.10 or higher as shown by analysis of the person’s breath or blood____
Appellants argue that this “two-hour rule” (1) exceeds the legitimate police powers of the state; (2) creates an impermissible mandatory presumption; and (3) is void for vagueness because (a) it does not define the criminal conduct so that people can understand what conduct is prohibited and (b) it encourages arbitrary enforcement, all in violation of the due process guarantees of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution. Although a few of these arguments have been accepted by at least one state supreme court,
see Commmonwealth v. Barud,
545 Pa. 297, 681 A.2d 162 (1996), and one Washington State Supreme Court justice,
see State v. Crediford,
130 Wash.2d 747, 927 P.2d 1129 (1996) (Sanders, J., concurring in the result), this Court is not persuaded.
A.
The two-hour rule does not exceed the State’s police powers. It is well established that a state’s action violates due process only where it is “clearly arbitrary and unreasonable, having no substantial relation to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare.”
Village of Euclid, Ohio v. Ambler Realty Co.,
272 U.S. 365, 395, 47 S.Ct. 114, 121, 71 L.Ed. 303 (1926). A state’s interest in public safety includes a “paramount interest ... in preserving the safety
of its public highways [by] ... removing drunken drivers from the[ ] highways.”
See Mackey v. Montrym,
443 U.S. 1, 17, 99 S.Ct. 2612, 2620, 61 L.Ed.2d 321 (1979).
Appellants argue that the two-hour rule exceeds the State’s police powers because it could support a criminal conviction of persons who were not “intoxicated” at the time they , actually operated the motor vehicle. This is because a person’s BAC increases for a time after consumption while the alcohol is absorbed into the bloodstream, before it begins to decrease. Thus, it is possible for a person to have a BAC of 0.10 percent within two hours after driving even if his BAC was below 0.10 percent at the time he was driving-
Even so, it cannot be said that the two-hour rule does not bear a substantial relation to the State’s paramount interest in preserving the safety of its roads and highways. To argue that the rule is unconstitutional for effectively making “legal” behavior illegal is implicitly to argue that driving with a 0.10 percent BAC or higher is the only DUI-related behavior that the State can prohibit legitimately.
In other words, Appellants’ argument rests on the false premise that only driving with a BAC of 0.10 percent or higher threatens the public safety. To the contrary, the legislature has decided that driving after having consumed enough alcohol to cause one’s BAC to rise to 0.10 percent within two hours after driving is dangerous to the public. As the Washington State Supreme Court has put it,
the Legislature did not exceed the police power of the State when it enacted a statute that essentially says that a person whose blood or breath alcohol concentration is 0.10 percent or greater should not have been driving an automobile within the previous two hours, regardless of what the driver’s blood or breath alcohol concentration might have been at the time of driving.
State v. Crediford,
130 Wash.2d 747, 744-55, 927 P.2d 1129, 1133 (1996). The 0.10 percent BAC is not some magical bright line between safely drunk and unsafely drunk, and the fact that driving with less than a 0.10 percent BAC may prove to be criminal under the two-hour rule does not mean that the rule is arbitrary or not substantially related to public safety.
B.
The two-hour rule does not create a mandatory presumption. A presumption is an evidentiary device allowing “the trier of fact to determine the existence of an element of the crime — that is, an ‘ultimate’ or ‘elemental’ fact — from the existence of one or more ‘evidentiary’ or ‘basic’ facts.”
County Court of Ulster County, N.Y. v. Allen,
442 U.S.
140, 156, 99
S.Ct. 2213, 2224, 60 L.Ed.2d 777 (1979). In criminal cases, a presumption must not undermine the fact finder’s responsibility to find each element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt.
Id.
Appellants argue that the two-hour rule creates a presumption that, if a defendant is found to have had a 0.10 percent BAC within two hours after driving, he must have had at least a 0.10 percent BAC at the time he was driving. According to this argument, the elemental fact that a defendant had a 0.10 percent BAC while driving is presumed from the evidentiary fact that a defendant had a 0.10 percent BAC within two hours after driving. Such a presumption, Appellants argue, undermines the jury’s responsibility to find, and the prosecutor’s obligation to prove, each element of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.
Again, Appellants’ argument rests upon a false premise. The argument incorrectly assumes that driving with a BAC of 0.10 percent or higher is necessarily an element of the crime. While Appellants are correct that the statute is intended to correct driving under the influence of alcohol, the legislature has attempted to correct such behavior by making it a crime to drive after consuming enough alcohol to cause a person’s BAC to be 0.10 percent within two hours after driving, regardless of the person’s actual BAC at the time of driving. The elemental fact to be proven therefore is that a person had a 0.10 percent BAC within two hours after driving, and any conclusion drawn from proof of this fact is irrelevant.
C.
Under the. void-for-vagueness doctrine, a criminal statute violates due process if it fails to define the offense (1) with sufficient definiteness that ordinary people can understand what conduct is prohibited and (2) in a manner that does not encourage arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement.
Kolender v. Lawson,
461 U.S. 352, 357, 103 S.Ct. 1855, 1858, 75 L.Ed.2d 903 (1983). Appellants argue that the two-hour rule violates both standards.
1.
The two-hour rule provides adequate notice of the prohibited conduct. A statute violates due process for failing to give adequate notice when it “forbids ... the doing of an act in terms so vague that [people] of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning.”
United States v. Lanier,
— U.S. -, -, 117 S.Ct. 1219, 1225, 137 L.Ed.2d 432 (1997). Because it is assumed that people are able to choose between lawful and unlawful conduct, it is necessary “that laws give the person of ordinary intelligence a reasonable opportunity to know what is prohibited, so that [the person] may act accordingly.”
Grayned v. City of Rockford,
408 U.S. 104, 108, 92 S.Ct. 2294, 2298-99, 33 L.Ed.2d 222 (1972). In the case of a statute that does not affect First Amendment rights, such as the two-hour rule, due process challenges are considered on an as-applied basis, so any “[o]bjections to vagueness ... may be overcome in any specific case where reasonable persons would know that their conduct is at risk.”
Maynard v. Cartwright,
486 U.S. 356, 361, 108 S.Ct. 1853, 1857, 100 L.Ed.2d 372 (1988).
Appellants argue that the two-hour rule fails to give adequate notice of prohibited conduct because it is virtually impossible for a person to tell at what time, if any, after consuming alcohol that, person’s BAC will reach 0.10 percent or higher. Appellants suggest that the reason Washington’s earlier DUI statute withstood a vagueness challenge was because it prohibited having a 0.10 percent BAC at the time of driving.
Cf. State v. Franco,
96 Wash.2d 816, 639 P.2d 1320 (1982). Appellants eoneede that, under the old law, “any individual, could assess their [sic] coordination and general functioning at the time of driving, thereby predicting with some accuracy whether or not he or she had a .10 BAC or higher at the time.” Appellants’ Opening Brief at 6. In contrast, Appellants suggest, “there is no way an individual can, with even the faintest hope of predictability, assess whether or not alcohol consumption will result in a BAC level of .10 or more within two hours of driving.”
Id.
at 8.
Appellants’ argument fails. Hidden again in the argument seems to be the assumption that a person is not affected by alcohol until the person reaches an 0.10 percent BAC, While Appellants seem to concede that it is virtually certain that one with a 0.10 percent BAC is impaired, Appellants argue at the same time that it is not even reasonable to assume that a person who has consumed enough to reach a BAC of 0.10 percent within two . hours is impaired. The Court finds it reasonable to assume that one is impaired in either case, perhaps, to a different degree in each case, but enough in each case for one to be on notice that his driving could be illegal. The only sure way to know one’s BAC is through breath alcohol or blood alcohol test; without such a test, it is as difficult to tell if one has reached 0.10 percent BAC as it is to tell if one will reach 0.10 percent some time in the near future, and a statute provides the same level of notice if it prohibits driving under either condition.
By focusing on one’s knowledge of his exact BAC level, Appellants miss the point. While it certainly must be hard to predict if one’s BAC has reached or will reach 0.10 percent within any time frame, this does not mean that the two-hour rule provides no notice ’ of the prohibited conduct. To the contrary, the two-hour rule, just as the former time-of-driving rule, gives fair notice that, although driving after drinking is not illegal per se, driving becomes illegal after a certain level of consumption; the fact that people cannot sense exactly what their BAC is at any given moment or will be in two hours does not change this. As the Arizona State Supreme Court put it, “[w]here a statute gives fair notice of what is to be avoided or punished, it should not be declared void for vagueness simply because it may be difficult for the public to determine how far they can go before they are in actual violation.”
Fuenning v. Superior Court ex rel. Maricopa County,
139 Ariz. 590, 598, 680 P.2d 121, 129 (1983). The rule is clear enough that, by driving after drinking, “reasonable persons [sh]ould know that their conduct is at risk,”
Maynard,
486 U.S. at 361, 108 S.Ct. at 1857, and need not “necessarily guess at its meaning,”
Lanier,
— U.S. at-, 117 S.Ct. at 1225.
2.
Appellants next argue that the two-hour rule encourages arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement because it “provid[es] no guidelines as to when the test should be administered in terms of the predicted blood alcohol curve, and as to whether or not an officer may charge the
per se
offense where duplicate breath test reveals two test measurements, one above the legal limit,and one below.” Appellants’ Opening Brief at 8. This argument is weak. Due
process prohibits laws that encourage arbitrary enforcement by requiring the legislature to establish “minimal guidelines,” without which “a criminal statute m[ight] permit a standardless sweep that allows policemen, prosecutors, and juries to pursue their personal predilections.”
Kolender v. Lawson,
461 U.S. 352, 358, 103 S.Ct. 1855, 1858, 75 L.Ed.2d 903 (1983) (internal quotation, marks omitted). The two hour rule has more than minimal guidelines.
Unlike the law in
Kolender,
which required a suspect to produce “credible and reliable” identification and therefore left police officers to pursue their personal predilections,
id.
(internal quotation marks omitted), the two-hour rule provides clear, objective guidelines: only a BAC of 0.10 percent is prohibited. In fact, the rule provides more guidance than RCW 41.61.502(l)(b), which invites an officer to determine when a person is “under the influence or affected by” alcohol. The suggestion that police officers may abuse their discretion or discriminate in deciding when to administer the test to achieve the highest BAC reading is not persuasive. If a person’s BAC is such a scientifically complex and variable thing as Appellants claim that it is, making it virtually impossible for a person to tell what his own BAC might do, then it hardly seems likely that somehow a police officer might be able to determine the precise point at which a person’s BAC is at its peak merely by observing the person.
Appellants also argue that the statute provides no guidelines as to whether or not an officer may charge the per se offense when duplicate breath tests reveal two test measurements, one above the legal limit and one below. This is not the case. The statute prohibits a 0.10 percent BAC. The test results are evidence of a person’s BAC. Presumably, an officer always may charge a per se offense; the question is whether the State can prove it. Conflicting results where some are below the legal limit will undermine the State’s case and raise a reasonable doubt in the minds of jurors, but no guidelines are needed as to whether or not an officer may
charge
the per se offense in such a situation. Police generally have such discretion.
III.
For the foregoing reasons, the magistrate judge’s order denying Appellants’ motion to dismiss is AFFIRMED and these cases are REMANDED for further proceedings.