United States v. Say

233 F. Supp. 2d 221, 2002 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 23445, 2002 WL 31742996
CourtDistrict Court, D. Massachusetts
DecidedDecember 5, 2002
DocketCRIM.A.02-M-1740-CBS
StatusPublished
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United States v. Say, 233 F. Supp. 2d 221, 2002 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 23445, 2002 WL 31742996 (D. Mass. 2002).

Opinion

MEMORANDUM OF PROBABLE CAUSE AND DECISION ON THE GOVERNMENT’S MOTION FOR DETENTION

SWARTWOOD, United States Magistrate Judge.

I.Nature of the Offense and the Government’s Motion

On November 25, 2002, a Criminal Complaint was filed, charging Bin Van Say (“Mr.Say”), and others, with conspiracy to possess stolen firearms, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 371 and 922(j) and possession of stolen firearms, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922a)-

At Mr. Say’s initial appearance on November 25, 2002, he was advised of his right to a preliminary examination in accordance with Fed.R.Crim.P. 5.1 and the Government moved for a detention hearing pursuant to 18 U.S.C. §§ 3142(f)(l)(A)(Mr. Say has committed a crime of violence) and (f)(2)(A) (Mr. Say poses a risk of flight).

On December 2, 2002, a consolidated probable cause detention hearing was held. Michael P. Curren, Special Agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (?ATF?) of the United States Department of Treasury, testified on behalf of the Government and was cross-examined by Mr. Say’s counsel. Additionally, Mr. Say’s father, Trung Tran, testified on behalf of his son and was cross-examined by counsel for the Government.

II. Findings of Fact

1. On October 6, 2002, Donald M. Ryan, 35 Robert Boulevard, Charlton, Massachusetts, reported to the Charlton Police Department that sometime prior to October 6, 2002, fifteen firearms were stolen from his residence. Govt. Ex. 1. Three of the firearms were pellet guns and do not qualify as firearms under federal law. Several of the stolen firearms were manufactured outside of Massachusetts.

2. Mr. Say was identified as a participant in the firearms robbery at the Ryan residence. On November 23, 2002, ATF Special Agent, Michael P. Curren, went to Mr. Say’s apartment and questioned him concerning his involvement in the Ryan robbery. Mr. Say signed a waiver of his right to remain silent and his right to advice of counsel. Ex. S. Mr. Say then gave ATF Agent Curren a seven page written statement (GovhEx. 2) in which he admitted his participation in the Ryan robbery.

3. According to Mr. Say, he was approached by co-Defendant, Herminio M. Cruz (?Mr.Cruz?), with whom Mr. Say worked at the Atriam Restaurant, as to whether Mr. Say would be willing to assist Mr. Cruz and others in stealing firearms from the Ryan residence. The purpose for stealing these firearms was to sell them to a Worcester Street gang known as the Vice Lords and also sell some of the firearms to buyers on the west coast. Mr. Say accompanied Mr. Cruz and several other individuals to the Ryan residence where Mr. Cruz and two other individuals went into the Ryan house to steal the firearms. Mr. Say acted as a look-out and when he saw a car approaching, went to the Ryan residence to warn those inside that they should leave. Govt. Ex. 2.

4. After the robbery, the stolen firearms were kept for a period of time in an *223 apartment that Mr. Say shared with a co-Defendant, Alberto Rodriguez.

III. Probable Cause

Mr. Say is charged with conspiracy to possess and possession of stolen firearms, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 371 and 922(j). Under this latter statute, it is unlawful for any person to possess stolen firearms. Mr. Say has admitted that he went with a group of individuals to the Ryan residence, assisted in stealing firearms and following the robbery, stored those firearms, for a period of time, in an apartment that he shared with Mr. Rodriguez. Therefore, I find probable cause for the offenses charged against Mr. Say in this Criminal Complaint.

IV. Discussion of Whether Detention is Warranted

A. Discussion of the Bail Reform Act

Under 18 U.S.C. § 3142 (“The Bail Reform Act” or (“the Act”), the judicial officer shall order that, pending trial, the Defendant be (1) released on his own recognizance or upon execution of an unsecured bond; (2) released on a condition or combination of conditions; (3) temporarily detained to permit revocation of conditional release, deportation, or exclusion; or (4) detained. 18 U.S.C. § 3142(a). Under the Act, the judicial officer may detain a person pending trial only if, after a detention hearing held pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 3142(f), the judicial officer determines that “no condition or combination of conditions [set forth under 18 U.S.C. § 3142(b) or (c) ] will reasonably assure the appearance of the person as required and the safety of any other person and the community”. 18 U.S.C. § 3142(e). The Supreme Court, in United States v. Salerno, 481 U.S. 739, 747, 107 S.Ct. 2095, 95 L.Ed.2d 697 (1987) has cautioned that “[i]n our society liberty is the norm, and detention prior to trial or without trial is the carefully limited exception.” Id. at 755, 107 S.Ct. at 2105. For this reason, the Defendant may be detained only if the judicial officer finds by (1) clear and convincing evidence, that the Defendant is a danger to the community, or (2) a preponderance of the evidence, that the Defendant poses a risk of flight. See 18 U.S.C. § 3142(f); United States v. Jackson, 823 F.2d 4-5 (2d Cir.1987); United States v. Berrios-Berrios, 791 F.2d 246, 250 (2d Cir.(1986), cert. denied, 479, U.S. 978, 107 S.Ct. 562, 93 L.Ed.2d 568 (1986). See also United States v. Patriarca, 948 F.2d 789, 792-93 (1st Cir.1991). Furthermore, - the judicial officer “may not impose a financial condition that results in the pretrial detention of the person”. 18 U.S.C.

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