PROCEDURAL ORDER RE: GOVERNMENT’S MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION
GERTNER, District Judge.
For the reasons discussed below, the Court STAYS its February 20, 2001, Order compelling the government to produce Rule 6(e) discovery to the defendants, Arthur L. Pi-mental and Loretta R. Pimental (“the Pimentals”). After considering the oral arguments of counsel, the Court wishes to narrow the issues which need to be briefed. The parties are ORDERED to submit supplemental briefs on the following two issues: (1) Whether the Court must find the government “knowingly” violated Rule 6(e), or in the alternative, disclosed grand jury materials in “bad faith,” before I may explore the question of the appropriate remedy through further discovery; and (2) whether the government’s violation in the Pimental investigation was “knowing” or in “bad faith.”
I. BACKGROUND
On April 3, 2001, I held a hearing on the government’s motion to reconsider my February 20, 2001, decision ordering the government to produce discovery regarding the government’s violation of Fed.R.Crim.P. 6(e) (“Rule 6(e)”) when it disclosed secret grand jury materials to private investigators from the Massachusetts Insurance Fraud Bureau (“the IFB”). In its motion to reconsider filed prior to the hearing, the government made two arguments: First, that I should have reviewed Judge Saris’ earlier order allowing disclosure of grand jury materials for an abuse of discretion;1 second, I should modify my February 20 decision because the government’s violation was not “knowing” or in “bad faith” (in light of Judge Saris’ order [25]*25of disclosure), and therefore, dismissal of the indictment is unwarranted in any event.
During oral argument, the defense suggested that the government knew of the Rule 6(e) problems and the relevant case law, notably United States v. Tager, 638 F.2d 167 (10th Cir.1980), as early as 1994, but nevertheless continued to file ex parte motions for disclosure of grand jury materials to IFB personnel that were less than complete. The government responded that its ex parte filings were entirely appropriate since, after briefing, Judge Stearns came to the opposite conclusion on the question of the IFB’s status under Rule 6(e) in a 1994 case, United States v. Rosenthal et al., No. 94-CR-10244-RGS. According to the government, Judge Stearns denied the defendants’ motion to dismiss the indictment on Rule 6(e) grounds and expressly found IFB employees qualified as “government personnel” for purposes of Rule 6(e).
In light of these arguments, four questions are raised: (1) Whether the government violated Rule 6(e) when it disclosed secret grand jury materials to IFB investigators; (2) whether the Court must find the government violated Rule 6(e) “knowingly,” or in the alternative, in “bad faith,” before I may explore the question of the appropriate remedy through further discovery; (3) whether the government’s violation was in fact “knowing” or in “bad faith”; and, (4) whether such a violation was harmless error.
I will accept further briefing on the second and third questions but not on the first or fourth for the reasons described below.
II. DISCUSSION
A. The Meaning of “Government Personnel”
As to the first question, I stand by my ruling on the definition of “government personnel” under Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii), as well as my finding that the government violated Rule 6(e) in this case despite the fact that it obtained an order authorizing disclosure to IFB personnel.2 The government’s recent concerns still do not address the fundamental question under Rule 6(e): What does the plain language of Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii) mean? The government’s insistence that the better policy approach would be to have “government personnel” mean “privately employed personnel” or “private experts under contract with the government” should be addressed to Congress, not this Court. The [26]*26latest arguments essentially ask me to read the phrase “government personnel” out of Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii), or mangle its plain meaning.
I disagree with the government’s renewed efforts to parse the facts and holdings of Sells, Tager, Anderson, Lartey, and Benjamin, all of which were discussed at length in my February 20 decision.3 The factual distinctions between Anderson and Lartey on the one hand, and Tager and this case on the other, make all the difference for purposes of my ruling that the government violated Rule 6(e) in the instant case.
First, the fact that IFB investigators in this case were not paid for their services by the federal government, as were the experts in Anderson and Lartey, means the IFB personnel were “not in any sense in the employ of the government” as were the experts in Anderson and Lartey. Anderson, 778 F.2d at 605 n. 1; Lartey, 716 F.2d at 964. Indeed, it can be argued that the salaries of IFB investigators come from the victims of the economic crimes at issue, namely, the insurance companies.
Second, the retained experts in Anderson and Lartey received pre-existing materials that were presented to the grand jury, not materials that were “cloaked with secrecy.” Anderson, 778 F.2d at 605 (comparing the facts of that case to the facts of Lartey); see also Church of Scientology Int’l v. United States Dep’t of Justice, 30 F.3d 224, 235 (1st Cir.1994). The government made no claim here that the Pimental disclosures did not involve secret grand jury materials.
B. Whether the Violation Must Be “Knowing” or in “Bad Faith” Before a Remedy May Be Imposed
Assuming that a Rule 6(e) violation occurred, the government maintains that the Court must find the government’s violation was “knowing” or in “bad faith” before it may order discovery or impose any remedy. Defendants urge that the “knowing” inquiry is only necessary before a violation of Rule 6(e) may be punished as a contempt of court. Cf. Fed.R.Crim.P. 6(e)(2). If so, the Court may proceed directly to the question of harmless error and order the Rule 6(e) discovery per my February 20 decision.
The defendants are hereby ORDERED to submit supplemental briefs on whether the government’s violation must be “knowing” or in “bad faith” by April 20, 2001. The government’s response is due no later than May 4, 2001.
C. Whether the Government’s Violation Was “Knowing”
Finally, assuming a “knowing” or “bad faith” finding is a prerequisite to remedying a Rule 6(e) violation, it remains to be determined whether the government violated Rule 6(e) “knowingly” or in “bad faith” in this case. The government believes the earlier orders issued by Judge Stearns in the Rosenthal case, and by Judge Saris on the ex parte motion in this case, conclusively demonstrate that the government did not act in bad faith.
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PROCEDURAL ORDER RE: GOVERNMENT’S MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION
GERTNER, District Judge.
For the reasons discussed below, the Court STAYS its February 20, 2001, Order compelling the government to produce Rule 6(e) discovery to the defendants, Arthur L. Pi-mental and Loretta R. Pimental (“the Pimentals”). After considering the oral arguments of counsel, the Court wishes to narrow the issues which need to be briefed. The parties are ORDERED to submit supplemental briefs on the following two issues: (1) Whether the Court must find the government “knowingly” violated Rule 6(e), or in the alternative, disclosed grand jury materials in “bad faith,” before I may explore the question of the appropriate remedy through further discovery; and (2) whether the government’s violation in the Pimental investigation was “knowing” or in “bad faith.”
I. BACKGROUND
On April 3, 2001, I held a hearing on the government’s motion to reconsider my February 20, 2001, decision ordering the government to produce discovery regarding the government’s violation of Fed.R.Crim.P. 6(e) (“Rule 6(e)”) when it disclosed secret grand jury materials to private investigators from the Massachusetts Insurance Fraud Bureau (“the IFB”). In its motion to reconsider filed prior to the hearing, the government made two arguments: First, that I should have reviewed Judge Saris’ earlier order allowing disclosure of grand jury materials for an abuse of discretion;1 second, I should modify my February 20 decision because the government’s violation was not “knowing” or in “bad faith” (in light of Judge Saris’ order [25]*25of disclosure), and therefore, dismissal of the indictment is unwarranted in any event.
During oral argument, the defense suggested that the government knew of the Rule 6(e) problems and the relevant case law, notably United States v. Tager, 638 F.2d 167 (10th Cir.1980), as early as 1994, but nevertheless continued to file ex parte motions for disclosure of grand jury materials to IFB personnel that were less than complete. The government responded that its ex parte filings were entirely appropriate since, after briefing, Judge Stearns came to the opposite conclusion on the question of the IFB’s status under Rule 6(e) in a 1994 case, United States v. Rosenthal et al., No. 94-CR-10244-RGS. According to the government, Judge Stearns denied the defendants’ motion to dismiss the indictment on Rule 6(e) grounds and expressly found IFB employees qualified as “government personnel” for purposes of Rule 6(e).
In light of these arguments, four questions are raised: (1) Whether the government violated Rule 6(e) when it disclosed secret grand jury materials to IFB investigators; (2) whether the Court must find the government violated Rule 6(e) “knowingly,” or in the alternative, in “bad faith,” before I may explore the question of the appropriate remedy through further discovery; (3) whether the government’s violation was in fact “knowing” or in “bad faith”; and, (4) whether such a violation was harmless error.
I will accept further briefing on the second and third questions but not on the first or fourth for the reasons described below.
II. DISCUSSION
A. The Meaning of “Government Personnel”
As to the first question, I stand by my ruling on the definition of “government personnel” under Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii), as well as my finding that the government violated Rule 6(e) in this case despite the fact that it obtained an order authorizing disclosure to IFB personnel.2 The government’s recent concerns still do not address the fundamental question under Rule 6(e): What does the plain language of Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii) mean? The government’s insistence that the better policy approach would be to have “government personnel” mean “privately employed personnel” or “private experts under contract with the government” should be addressed to Congress, not this Court. The [26]*26latest arguments essentially ask me to read the phrase “government personnel” out of Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii), or mangle its plain meaning.
I disagree with the government’s renewed efforts to parse the facts and holdings of Sells, Tager, Anderson, Lartey, and Benjamin, all of which were discussed at length in my February 20 decision.3 The factual distinctions between Anderson and Lartey on the one hand, and Tager and this case on the other, make all the difference for purposes of my ruling that the government violated Rule 6(e) in the instant case.
First, the fact that IFB investigators in this case were not paid for their services by the federal government, as were the experts in Anderson and Lartey, means the IFB personnel were “not in any sense in the employ of the government” as were the experts in Anderson and Lartey. Anderson, 778 F.2d at 605 n. 1; Lartey, 716 F.2d at 964. Indeed, it can be argued that the salaries of IFB investigators come from the victims of the economic crimes at issue, namely, the insurance companies.
Second, the retained experts in Anderson and Lartey received pre-existing materials that were presented to the grand jury, not materials that were “cloaked with secrecy.” Anderson, 778 F.2d at 605 (comparing the facts of that case to the facts of Lartey); see also Church of Scientology Int’l v. United States Dep’t of Justice, 30 F.3d 224, 235 (1st Cir.1994). The government made no claim here that the Pimental disclosures did not involve secret grand jury materials.
B. Whether the Violation Must Be “Knowing” or in “Bad Faith” Before a Remedy May Be Imposed
Assuming that a Rule 6(e) violation occurred, the government maintains that the Court must find the government’s violation was “knowing” or in “bad faith” before it may order discovery or impose any remedy. Defendants urge that the “knowing” inquiry is only necessary before a violation of Rule 6(e) may be punished as a contempt of court. Cf. Fed.R.Crim.P. 6(e)(2). If so, the Court may proceed directly to the question of harmless error and order the Rule 6(e) discovery per my February 20 decision.
The defendants are hereby ORDERED to submit supplemental briefs on whether the government’s violation must be “knowing” or in “bad faith” by April 20, 2001. The government’s response is due no later than May 4, 2001.
C. Whether the Government’s Violation Was “Knowing”
Finally, assuming a “knowing” or “bad faith” finding is a prerequisite to remedying a Rule 6(e) violation, it remains to be determined whether the government violated Rule 6(e) “knowingly” or in “bad faith” in this case. The government believes the earlier orders issued by Judge Stearns in the Rosenthal case, and by Judge Saris on the ex parte motion in this case, conclusively demonstrate that the government did not act in bad faith. The defendants have argued that the government acted knowingly in violating Rule 6(e), as evidenced by, inter alia, the failure to cite Tager in its ex parte motion, and possibly, the U.S. Attorney’s internal policies and memoranda.4
The defendants are ORDERED to submit supplemental briefs on whether the government knowingly violated Rule 6(e) in the Pimental investigation by April 20, 2001. The government’s response is due no later than May 4, 2001. The parties should refer[27]*27ence evidence supporting their respective positions.
D. Harmless Error and Remedy
Only after the above questions are answered and all appropriate discovery is provided by the government may the Court address the issue of whether the government’s Rule 6(e) violation prejudiced the Pimentals, and finally, the appropriate remedy. The cases the government cites (i.e., Sells, Anderson, Lartey, etc.) describe certain factors, like the nature of the grand jury disclosures, the persons to whom disclosures were made, and whether those persons were in the “employ” of the government in any sense, which may delineate the harmless error analysis to be applied. The government’s alleged control over IFB employees, which was not disclosed prior to the reconsideration hearing, would also be relevant to the harmless error determination.
III. CONCLUSION
For the reasons stated above, the Court STAYS its February 20 Order compelling the government to produce Rule 6(e) discovery. The parties are ORDERED to submit supplemental briefs on the following two issues: (1) Whether the Court must find the government violated Rule 6(e) “knowingly,” or in the alternative, in “bad faith,” before I may explore the question of the appropriate remedy through further discovery; and (2) whether the government’s violation in the Pimental investigation was in fact “knowing” or in “bad faith.” Defendants’ briefs are due no later than April 20, 2001. The government’s response is due no later than May 4, 2001.
SO ORDERED.