Thurman v. State

4 Ohio C.C. 141
CourtOhio Circuit Courts
DecidedJanuary 15, 1889
StatusPublished

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Bluebook
Thurman v. State, 4 Ohio C.C. 141 (Ohio Super. Ct. 1889).

Opinion

Smith, J.

Very many errors are assigned in this case, and a multitude of exceptions were taken to the rulings of the court during [142]*142the trial. We have attempted to consider all which were called to our attention, where proper exception was taken, and will notice and dispose of them as briefly as possible.

1. The objection that the panel of the jury was not delivered to the defendant three days before the trial, is not well taken. It was in fact given to him three days before the commencement of the trial, though not so long’before the day on which the case was set to be tried. The court for this reason laid the case over to a future day, so that more than three days did intervene between the time he received it and the day the trial commenced. ,

2. The action of the court in requiring the defendant to decide whether he would peremptorily challenge each juror as called and not set aside for cause, and without allowing him to wait until twelve persons were in the box, was not erroneous, as held in 20 Ohio St. 233.

3. It is claimed that the court erred in refusing to allow the defendant to prove by the witness Murphy, the conversation between them some fifteen or twenty minutes before the homicide. We can readily see that there might have been a conversation between them which the defendant would have been entitled to prove, but there is nothing in the record to show what'he proposed to prove by the witness, and therefore nothing to show that the court erred in its ruling.

4. In answer to a question to a witness, competent to speak as to the character of Thurman for peace and quietness, the witness answered without ojection, that he was a peaceable man, and that he had never heard anything to the contrary. He was then asked if he had ever heard any one say that defendant had ever had a quarrel with anybody. To this question an objection was interposed by the prosecuting attorney, and the objection was sustained. Then follows this statement in the bill of exceptions, “ Motion to strike out previous answer of witness by counsel for state granted, and defendant by his counsel excepts.”

We are satisfied, from the statement of the attorneys for the state, that in this particular the bill of exceptions does not correctly state what really occurred. That it was an answer by the witness to the last question about a quarrel that was [143]*143stricken out. This answer, however, does not appear in the bill, and the record states that it was the answer to the previous question, as to the character of Thurman, that was stricken out. This answer was competent, and it would have been error in the court to have excluded it, and unless the error on the bill as it now appears, has been cured in some way, we would feel obliged to reverse the judgment on this ground. But we think it was cured. On pages 232-3, following this, while the same witness was being cross-examined by the prosecuting attorney, he testified that he had known Thurman for twenty years, and that his reputation for peace and quiet had always been good; that he had never heard anything different, and knew nothing different — that he never heard anything against him, and that when he said what he had to the jury concerning his reputation, he was simply giving his own opinion of the man, viz., that he was a peaceable, quiet man. That he was not endeavoring to say what other people said of him, or thought of him, but simply his own opinion. Now, this statement'made to the prosecuting attorney, not only contains the substance, but almost the exact language of his statement in chief, and was even stronger than the language before used, and this went to the jury, curing any error in ruling out the first statement.

5. The question put to a witness as to Thurman’s reputation for peace among journeymen painters, with whom the .witness associated, was not proper. His reputation, or character, among those who knew or associated with him, was relevant and proper. But, aside from this, the record does not disclose what the witness was expected to prove. And the same thing may be said as to the greater part of the exceptions taken to the refusal of the court to allow evidence to be given. This is necessary, to show that there was error in the .rulings upon such matters, and in such cases the exceptions will not be further noticed.

6. A witness was asked by defendant’s counsel, if he ever saw Parker (the deceased), when talking to a person in an excited manner, put his hand behind him to what is known as the pistol pocket, and as if to draw a pistol therefrom, the claim of the defendant being that he shot Parker to prevent him [144]*144from shooting him. The court refused to allow the question to be answered, and defendant excepted and offered to prove by the witness, that he had seen Parker do this on several occassions, hut there was no offer to prove that the defendant saw or had any knowledge of this. We are of the opinion that such testimony was not competent — that it was too remote. It was not “evidence of the existence or non-existence of any fact in issue, or of any fact relevant to any fact in issue.” It can readily be seen that it would lead the court and jury into an examination of as many separate issues as there were occasions testified to by the witness, and whether Parker was justified in doing as he did, and therefore was incompetent.

7. The question put to a witness as to the manner in which Parker treated men in his employ was not proper. The inquiry in chief, should in a case like this be confined to the general character or reputation of the deceased, as a peaceable or dangerous man, and special circumstances be gone into only on cross-examination»

8. The parol evidence as to the contents of a certain circular letter was properly excluded. There was no sufficient proof of the loss of the originals; and if there had been, we see no relevancy in the evidence, but as we understand, it was afterwards admitted without objection.

9. A witness, in answer to a question of defendant as to the character of Parker as a dangerous man, answered that “ he had a bad tongue — that is all.” This was excluded, and properly. It was not responsive and was not competent.

10. The question put by defendant’s counsel to his own witness in chief, to the effect'that if he should hear that defendant had committed murder, what his opinion would be as to his sanity, was improper.

11. The court properly refused to allow the defendant to. testify as to a conversation between himself and his wife, many months before the homicide, as to a visit of Parker to his house in his absence,, and what then took place. We see no ground upon which it can be held competent.

12. The question' put by the prosecuting attorney to the defendant while on the witness stand, whether his wife had [145]*145not kept an assignation house in the city, seems to us uncalled for, and improper, and the court should have sustained the objection made to it. But as the answer of the defendant was on explicit denial of the fact, and as no other witness was examined in relation thereto, it stood on his denial, and we see no reason to believe that the defendant was prejudiced thereby.

13. We think it clear under the rulings of the Supreme Court, that Mrs. Thurman, admitted to be the wife of the de-' fendant, was not a competent witness in his favor in this case. The court did not therefore err in refusing to allow her to be sworn and examined.

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