MeRedith, Judge:
Charles Hurst was convicted of murder in the second degree for the slaying of Lester Flanigan, and was sentenced to serve fourteen years in the penitentiary. He seeks now to reverse that judgment, chiefly upon the ground that the verdict is unsupported by the law and the evidence in the ease.
Defendant does not deny the killing, but invokes the law of self-defense. At the time it occurred, defendant, along with his two sisters and younger brother, resided with their parents near Katylick Run, Harrison County. On the evening of August 12, 1921, defendant with other members of his family were out .on the réar porch of the residence. Defendant was sitting on the porch floor near a bench which extended across one end of the porch; his mother, Mrs. Mary Hurst, sat- in a rocking chair, her feet resting on or against the banister rail; a sister, Flora, stood in the doorway opening from the kitchen; and a cousin, Mason Hurst, occupied [224]*224tbe bench, with his feet and legs extending over the end of the bench and the edge of the porch. Bertie, another sister, was engaged in the kitchen. It seems that the -deceased, Lester Flanigan, and defendant’s sister Bertie were engaged to be married and that he customarily visited the Hurst residence in the evenings. On this particular evening, he appeared about 7 o’clock, walking the short distance from his own home in company with defendant’s younger brother, Ernest Hurst, aged 14. As to- deceased’s movements and behavior we are compelled to rely, there being no other evidence, upon the testimony of the defendant’s various relatives, already referred to. Coming within a short distance of the Hurst home, he had his companion, Ernest Hurst, remain behind him, and with the announcement that he was going to “kill a fellow down here,” picked up a rock which he carried to a point near the house and then threw towards the building. It struck the weather-boarding about four feet from where Mason Hurst was sitting on the bench. Ernest Hurst was the only witness to- the actual throwing, the others merely hearing the rock and seeing the deceased immediately appear around the house. His next move was to seize Masan Hurst’s legs, hanging over the end of the bench, he then bore down on them and tipped the'bench- Upon Mason Hurst’s crying out that he was hurting him, deceased replied with an oath that lie wanted ‘ ‘ to- hurt them, I want to- break them. ’ ’ He then slapped Mrs. Hurst on the back, remarking “Mrs. I as as mad as hell,” upon which he went inside the house to-see Bertie, his fiancee. He told her he was mad and worried. It appears that the cause of his anger and worry was the fact that he had loaned a gun, a 22 Colt automatic pistol, to a young fellow named Davis living at O’Neill, which he had unsuccessfully attempted to have returned that day, Davis being away from home when deceased went after it. On the morning of the same day, deceased had told Mrs. Hurst and others of the family that he was going for his gun and that “he was going to have his gun or hell.” He told Bertie of his failure to get the weapon, but it nowhere appears that defendant had any knowledge of this circumstance. Deceased and Bertie Hurst agreed that she should return with [225]*225bim to bis borne, in preparation for which sbe went into another room to change her shoes. At this juncture, deceased continued bis rough tactics. He slammed the sewing machine lid, or nptipped the machine so that a heavy iron and some other articles fell on the floor, and splintered the panels of one of the doors with his fist. Coming out on the porch, he informed the family there gathered that he was the “best G-d-d man in the house” and didn’t want anyone to bother him • with upraised arm he approached defendant who rose from his sitting position on the floor. With the remark that deceased must have gotten hold of some bad liquor, defendant pushed deceased away with his hand. This movement was repeated. At this, defendant and the four eyewitnesses, Mrs. Hurst, Bertie Hurst, Flora Hurst and Mason Hurst, say that deceased reached around to his hip-pocket as if attempting to get his gun. To protect himself, defendant picked up a paring knife from the bench, which he had been using in repairing his shoes, and without moving from his tracks stabbed deceased in the lower left section of his abdomen. Bertie Hurst jumped partly between the two men when she saw Flanigan reach for his pocket, but she was too late to separate them. The knife blade severed the internal illiac artery and broke off in the body. Flanigan walked and ran a short distance to a bridge over a small stream, .where, his strength waning, he fell. Several people, including defendant, gathered around and the wounded man was carried to the home of a neighbor where he died. shortly after.
Such, in brief, is the story of the killing as it appears- in the record. If the actions of deceased were as detailed, the testimony of the defendant’s witnesses that deceased was intoxicated sounds extremely probable. There can be little doubt about that. A significant circumstance in this connection is the fact that deceased’s father offered to go down to invite Bertie Hurst to his home that evening, so that she could hear a nephew play the violin, rather than that Lester should go. Deceased was shown by several witnesses to be a drinking man, and had often, come to the Hurst home under [226]*226the influence of liquor. While there on these occasions members of the Burst family had often taken his revolver away from him and hid it. Once he was threatening to shoot his toes off. The evidence is convincing that there was no ill-will between deceased and the defendant nor between him and any member of the defendant’s family. His marriage with Bertie Hurst was set for September 10th, approximately one month after the killing.
The testimony of two witnesses introduced by the state tending to prove the existence of bad feeling on the part of defendant towards Flanigan is of little probative value. The first of these witnesses, William Hurst, testified that some time during the summer season prior to the killing, the common report was that Flanigan had killed a dog belonging to Dewey Ash, and that defendant had remarked at the time that “he ought” or “had.a notion” to kill Lester Flanigan. This evidence is extremely vague, and in addition the witness admits that he did not consider that defendant’s remarks were made in serious vein, but rather in a joking manner. The other witness was a negro, Henry Taylor, who stated that some time in July he was picking blackberries near the Katyliek road and met the defendant; that when he inquired as to defendant’s health, the latter replied: “I am not right, ’ ’ 1 ‘ I am not very good, I am thinking of killing Lester Flanigan.” Upon the'witness’ objection that the law would exact a penalty for such an act, defendant is quoted as saying : “I ain’t studying about that, I have plenty of backing.’’ This was the extent of the alleged conversation, no reasons were suggested why defendant should entertain such a purpose, nor does it appear in the slightest way that the killing when it occurred was the result of any such premeditation. The nature of the encounter, the weapon used, all the circumstances belie any suggestion of design on the part of the defendant.
.An important element in a case of this kind is the proof of actual fear of bodily harm on the part of the defendant when defending himself. State v. Davis, 52 W. Va. 224, 43 S. E. 99; State v. Cain, 20 W. Va. 679. There is ample evidence here on that issue. Defendant was well acquainted [227]
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MeRedith, Judge:
Charles Hurst was convicted of murder in the second degree for the slaying of Lester Flanigan, and was sentenced to serve fourteen years in the penitentiary. He seeks now to reverse that judgment, chiefly upon the ground that the verdict is unsupported by the law and the evidence in the ease.
Defendant does not deny the killing, but invokes the law of self-defense. At the time it occurred, defendant, along with his two sisters and younger brother, resided with their parents near Katylick Run, Harrison County. On the evening of August 12, 1921, defendant with other members of his family were out .on the réar porch of the residence. Defendant was sitting on the porch floor near a bench which extended across one end of the porch; his mother, Mrs. Mary Hurst, sat- in a rocking chair, her feet resting on or against the banister rail; a sister, Flora, stood in the doorway opening from the kitchen; and a cousin, Mason Hurst, occupied [224]*224tbe bench, with his feet and legs extending over the end of the bench and the edge of the porch. Bertie, another sister, was engaged in the kitchen. It seems that the -deceased, Lester Flanigan, and defendant’s sister Bertie were engaged to be married and that he customarily visited the Hurst residence in the evenings. On this particular evening, he appeared about 7 o’clock, walking the short distance from his own home in company with defendant’s younger brother, Ernest Hurst, aged 14. As to- deceased’s movements and behavior we are compelled to rely, there being no other evidence, upon the testimony of the defendant’s various relatives, already referred to. Coming within a short distance of the Hurst home, he had his companion, Ernest Hurst, remain behind him, and with the announcement that he was going to “kill a fellow down here,” picked up a rock which he carried to a point near the house and then threw towards the building. It struck the weather-boarding about four feet from where Mason Hurst was sitting on the bench. Ernest Hurst was the only witness to- the actual throwing, the others merely hearing the rock and seeing the deceased immediately appear around the house. His next move was to seize Masan Hurst’s legs, hanging over the end of the bench, he then bore down on them and tipped the'bench- Upon Mason Hurst’s crying out that he was hurting him, deceased replied with an oath that lie wanted ‘ ‘ to- hurt them, I want to- break them. ’ ’ He then slapped Mrs. Hurst on the back, remarking “Mrs. I as as mad as hell,” upon which he went inside the house to-see Bertie, his fiancee. He told her he was mad and worried. It appears that the cause of his anger and worry was the fact that he had loaned a gun, a 22 Colt automatic pistol, to a young fellow named Davis living at O’Neill, which he had unsuccessfully attempted to have returned that day, Davis being away from home when deceased went after it. On the morning of the same day, deceased had told Mrs. Hurst and others of the family that he was going for his gun and that “he was going to have his gun or hell.” He told Bertie of his failure to get the weapon, but it nowhere appears that defendant had any knowledge of this circumstance. Deceased and Bertie Hurst agreed that she should return with [225]*225bim to bis borne, in preparation for which sbe went into another room to change her shoes. At this juncture, deceased continued bis rough tactics. He slammed the sewing machine lid, or nptipped the machine so that a heavy iron and some other articles fell on the floor, and splintered the panels of one of the doors with his fist. Coming out on the porch, he informed the family there gathered that he was the “best G-d-d man in the house” and didn’t want anyone to bother him • with upraised arm he approached defendant who rose from his sitting position on the floor. With the remark that deceased must have gotten hold of some bad liquor, defendant pushed deceased away with his hand. This movement was repeated. At this, defendant and the four eyewitnesses, Mrs. Hurst, Bertie Hurst, Flora Hurst and Mason Hurst, say that deceased reached around to his hip-pocket as if attempting to get his gun. To protect himself, defendant picked up a paring knife from the bench, which he had been using in repairing his shoes, and without moving from his tracks stabbed deceased in the lower left section of his abdomen. Bertie Hurst jumped partly between the two men when she saw Flanigan reach for his pocket, but she was too late to separate them. The knife blade severed the internal illiac artery and broke off in the body. Flanigan walked and ran a short distance to a bridge over a small stream, .where, his strength waning, he fell. Several people, including defendant, gathered around and the wounded man was carried to the home of a neighbor where he died. shortly after.
Such, in brief, is the story of the killing as it appears- in the record. If the actions of deceased were as detailed, the testimony of the defendant’s witnesses that deceased was intoxicated sounds extremely probable. There can be little doubt about that. A significant circumstance in this connection is the fact that deceased’s father offered to go down to invite Bertie Hurst to his home that evening, so that she could hear a nephew play the violin, rather than that Lester should go. Deceased was shown by several witnesses to be a drinking man, and had often, come to the Hurst home under [226]*226the influence of liquor. While there on these occasions members of the Burst family had often taken his revolver away from him and hid it. Once he was threatening to shoot his toes off. The evidence is convincing that there was no ill-will between deceased and the defendant nor between him and any member of the defendant’s family. His marriage with Bertie Hurst was set for September 10th, approximately one month after the killing.
The testimony of two witnesses introduced by the state tending to prove the existence of bad feeling on the part of defendant towards Flanigan is of little probative value. The first of these witnesses, William Hurst, testified that some time during the summer season prior to the killing, the common report was that Flanigan had killed a dog belonging to Dewey Ash, and that defendant had remarked at the time that “he ought” or “had.a notion” to kill Lester Flanigan. This evidence is extremely vague, and in addition the witness admits that he did not consider that defendant’s remarks were made in serious vein, but rather in a joking manner. The other witness was a negro, Henry Taylor, who stated that some time in July he was picking blackberries near the Katyliek road and met the defendant; that when he inquired as to defendant’s health, the latter replied: “I am not right, ’ ’ 1 ‘ I am not very good, I am thinking of killing Lester Flanigan.” Upon the'witness’ objection that the law would exact a penalty for such an act, defendant is quoted as saying : “I ain’t studying about that, I have plenty of backing.’’ This was the extent of the alleged conversation, no reasons were suggested why defendant should entertain such a purpose, nor does it appear in the slightest way that the killing when it occurred was the result of any such premeditation. The nature of the encounter, the weapon used, all the circumstances belie any suggestion of design on the part of the defendant.
.An important element in a case of this kind is the proof of actual fear of bodily harm on the part of the defendant when defending himself. State v. Davis, 52 W. Va. 224, 43 S. E. 99; State v. Cain, 20 W. Va. 679. There is ample evidence here on that issue. Defendant was well acquainted [227]*227with the deceased, and knew that be possessed an ugly disposition when intoxicated. It is further shown that deceased habitually carried at least one, and sometimes two, pistols. This fact was known to the defendant and all of the Hurst family. As heretofore stated, it does not appear that defendant knew that one of the gums was in the possession of Davis, although, knowledge of that circumstance would not have relieved him from fear for his safety. So, when Flanigan menacingly approached the defendant, and apparently reached for his pocket, defendant not unreasonably felt that protective measures were warranted. Mason Hurst, sitting on the bench a little further away, sought safety in flight, and did not witness the stabbing.
Despite the evidence which we have outlined, the jury returned a verdict of murder in the second degree, which was confirmed by the, judgment of the trial court. Can we disturb that judgment? In answering that .question, neither the defendant's counsel in argument nor this court are oblivious Of the general rule which demands that respect be paid to the verdicts of juries. No principle is more firmly established than that where the evidence is sufficiently conflicting to warrant a difference of opinion, the verdict of the jury, after confirmation by the trial court, must prevail, State v. Roberts, 64 W. Va. 498, 63 S. E. 282; State v. Piscoineri, 68 W. Va. 76, 69 S. E. 375; State v. Kidwell, 62 W. Va. 466, 59 S. E. 494; State v. Statler, 86 W. Va. 425, 103 S. E. 345. However, this rule is not to be considered applicable to every ease, to every set of facts and circumstances. Occasionally, owing to influences not always discernible, a verdict is returned which under no possible reasonable view of the evidence can be sustained. Though, as has often been said, juries may observe the witnesses, their actions and general demeanor, it must be borne in mind also that some evidence of guilt must appear if a conviction is to be sustained. "Where the verdict of a jury is wholly without evidence on a point essential to a finding, or the evidence is plainly insufficient to warrant such finding by the jury, the same should be' set aside and a new trial awarded.” Vintroux v. Simms, 45 W. Va. 548, 31 S. E. 941. This doctrine has been often applied in criminal cases. [228]*228Karnes v. Commonwealth, 125 Va. 758, 99 S. E. 562; Canter v. Commonwealth, 123 Va. 794, 96 S. E. 284; Stark v. Commonwealth, 116 Va. 1039, 83 S. E. 545; State v. Galford, 87 W. Va. 358, 105 S. E. 237.
The present case appeals to ns as just®such a case. We can not harmonize the verdict with the evidence offered. Malice is an essential element of murder, State v. Douglass, 28 W. Va. 297; State v. Panetta, 85 W. Va. 212, 101 S. E. 360, yet no evidence of legal malice is in the record. There is absolutely no evidence of motive, deliberation or premeditation. All the witnesses agree that the act of defendant was solely in self-defense. True, these witnesses are all members of defendant’s family, but as said in State v. G-alford, supra, the jury can not arbitrarily refuse to consider the testimony even of the defendant'himself, “especially when not contradicted directly or indirectly by any other witness and no.t inconsistent with the facts and circumstances of the case as made out by the evidence against him, but must give it such weight as in their judgment it merits.” In our view, the jury here must have wholly disregarded the evidence not only of the defendant, but all the witnesses to the killing.
The state in argument makes much of the fact that defendant in stabbing deceased reached around his sister Bertie. How far around does not appear in the record. Evidently her movement to get between her brother and the deceased was simultaneous with her brother’s movement to protect himself. She approached on the right of deceased; the blow was struck on his left. Under these circumstances, his striking “around” her is a mere relative term, and little importance should be attached to that point. 'Under the evidence as it appears from the present record, defendant’s plea of self-defense seems'to us to be complete; certainly there is no evidence to support a verdict of murder, and the verdict must be set aside. Under former rulings, we can not discharge the prisoner, as the evidence on a new trial may be different.
There being no evidence to support a verdict either of first or second degree murder, and no evidence whatever of legal malice, it necessarily follows that the state’s instructions de[229]*229fining and applying principles applicable to the two degrees of murder and analyzing the presumptions as to the existence of malice are improper and should have been refused. All eight of the instructions offered are thus objectionable.
■ The judgment will be reversed, verdict set aside and new trial awarded.
Reversed and remanded.