ST. PAUL, J.
The defendant is a public corpofation established under Act 70 of 1896 and the several acts amendatory thereof.
The plaintiffs were (are) warehouse clerks in the service of said board; having been so employed after an “examination” by the ‘’“board of
exwrmi&rs’’
provided for by Act 15 of the Extra Session of 1915.
Section 5 of said act provides:
' “All persons appointed or employed in said warehouses and other structures [under the adifainistration of said board of
commissioners]
as a result Of said examination * * * shall hold their offices or employment during their good behavior, and shall only be removed on charges preferred against them to said board of commissioners, and which shall be proven contradictorily against them to the satisfaction of said board.”
I.
■Some time prior to July 13, 1923, certain bales of cotton were stolen from the warehouse where plaintiffs were employed; and on said day plaintiffs were indicted by the grand jury in connection with said theft.
Seven days later (July 20, 1923) .plaintiffs were notified by defendant’s superintendent as follows:
“As a result of your indictment by the grand jury on Friday July 13th, you will please be advised that you were suspended, effective Saturday July 14th. _Since you are a civil service employee, you are entitled to trial by the board of commissioners of the port of New Orleans. Due notice will be furnished you when to appear for trial.”
IL
On March 13, 1924, plaintiffs were acquitted of the offense preferred against them in said indictment of July 13, 1923.
On May 28th defendant’s general manager preferred charges against plaintiffs before defendant board, charging them with “gross inefficiency, incompetency, and neglect of duty” in connection with the theft of said cotton. And on the same day plaintiffs were advised that a hearing on these charges would be had before the board of commissioners on June 12th, at 8 o’clock p. m., and were' directed to appear at said hearing and present such evidence in their own behalf as they might care to offer.
On June 9th plaintiffs, through their counsel, requested defendants (1) to summon sundry witnesses; and (2) to make arrangement for reporting the evidence stenographicaljy.
On June 18th defendant’s secretary wrote plaintiffs
directly
as follows:
“The board of coihmissioners of the port of New Orleans have directed me to inform you that at the investigation into the written charges preferred against you, * * * the board will, if you so desire, receive written re
ply from you regarding such charges. The board will also hear any oral statements you care to make, or any oral statements which you desire made by others having knowledge concerning the charges.
“This investigation will be held publicly. Counsel will not be heard. A written record will not he made by this Board of orál statements. You. will be expected to arrange to secure the presence of parties whom you desire to have make oral statements, and to present, or cause to be presented, any written statements which you desire to have considered.
“The trial will be held on June 19, 1924, at 8 o’clock p. m. * * * ”
Prom which it appears that, in substance, defendant refused: (1) To allow plaintiffs the assistance of counsel before it; (2) to issue summons for witnesses; and (3) to make any provision for reporting the oral statements made before it. On the other hand, defendant agreed: (1) To hear plaintiffs in person, or in writing; (2) to hear the statements, oral or written, of such persons as plaintiff might wish to have heard; and ■ (3) to hold the trial publicly. All of which appears from the petition and exhibits therewith filed. • .
III.
, Thereupon plaintiffs at once applied to the lower court for a mandamus, directing said board: (1) To allow plaintiffs to be assisted by counsel before it; (2) to make provision for a complete written record of all the proceedings had and oral statements made before it; (3) to summon as witnesses for plaintiffs such persons in its employ as plaintiffs may require; and also (4) to rescind its action fixing the trial for the hour of 8 o’clock p. m. and fix same for some hour between 9 a. m. and 6 p. m.; (5) to permit plaintiffs free access to its warehouses for the purpose of interviewing its employees; and (6) to pay plaintiffs their salaries in full froni the date of suspension until reinstated.
To which petition for mandamus the defendant excepted that it showed no cause of action; which exception was sustained below.
IY.
It will thus be seen that, (1) .although plaintiffs were refused the right to appear before defendant
through counsel,
they were none the less freely accorded the right to appear
in person-,
which meant (in effect) that the trial would be conducted “contradictorily” with plaintiffs, as required by the statute, but would not be conducted with the formality of a trial before a Court, nor surrounded with the technicalities and refinements incident to such trials,
wMch the statute does not require;
and (2) that, although the defendant would itself make no provision for reporting the proceedings had before it, nevertheless the trial would be
publicly
held, which (in effect) permitted plaintiffs to take and keep a full report of such proceedings.
V.
In our opinion the defendant was perfectly justified in its course. The right to be assisted by counsel is not one of the
natural rights of man;
but, on the contrary, is altogether a creature of positive law. Nothing in State ex rel. McMahon v. New Orleans, 107 La. 632, 32 So. 22, says anything to the contrary. All that was decided in that case was that the sham trial of McMahon before the city council was only a iarcial pretext for a trial (growing out of great excitement); and as one of the
incidents
of this pseudo trial mention was made of the fact that he was denied counsel, whilst his prosecutors (who were also his
judges)
were actively assisted by not only one but even
two
able attorneys. But such mention was made
principally
for the purpose of showing that McMahon had not waived any right by attempting to defend himself after his objections to going to trial had been overridden. Thus:
“When, therefore, he had offered them [his objections] and they were overruled, and the council ordered that the trial should proceed, he found himself without advice or witnesses and, practically, helpless; and, in view' of his application for relief [previously, and prematurely, made to the district court, and to this court] we do not think he should be held to have waived Ms rights.”
We do not think this case is authority for the proposition that one is always entitled to the assistance of counsel in all cases when he is entitled by law to be
heard,
even though such' right be not expressly granted.
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ST. PAUL, J.
The defendant is a public corpofation established under Act 70 of 1896 and the several acts amendatory thereof.
The plaintiffs were (are) warehouse clerks in the service of said board; having been so employed after an “examination” by the ‘’“board of
exwrmi&rs’’
provided for by Act 15 of the Extra Session of 1915.
Section 5 of said act provides:
' “All persons appointed or employed in said warehouses and other structures [under the adifainistration of said board of
commissioners]
as a result Of said examination * * * shall hold their offices or employment during their good behavior, and shall only be removed on charges preferred against them to said board of commissioners, and which shall be proven contradictorily against them to the satisfaction of said board.”
I.
■Some time prior to July 13, 1923, certain bales of cotton were stolen from the warehouse where plaintiffs were employed; and on said day plaintiffs were indicted by the grand jury in connection with said theft.
Seven days later (July 20, 1923) .plaintiffs were notified by defendant’s superintendent as follows:
“As a result of your indictment by the grand jury on Friday July 13th, you will please be advised that you were suspended, effective Saturday July 14th. _Since you are a civil service employee, you are entitled to trial by the board of commissioners of the port of New Orleans. Due notice will be furnished you when to appear for trial.”
IL
On March 13, 1924, plaintiffs were acquitted of the offense preferred against them in said indictment of July 13, 1923.
On May 28th defendant’s general manager preferred charges against plaintiffs before defendant board, charging them with “gross inefficiency, incompetency, and neglect of duty” in connection with the theft of said cotton. And on the same day plaintiffs were advised that a hearing on these charges would be had before the board of commissioners on June 12th, at 8 o’clock p. m., and were' directed to appear at said hearing and present such evidence in their own behalf as they might care to offer.
On June 9th plaintiffs, through their counsel, requested defendants (1) to summon sundry witnesses; and (2) to make arrangement for reporting the evidence stenographicaljy.
On June 18th defendant’s secretary wrote plaintiffs
directly
as follows:
“The board of coihmissioners of the port of New Orleans have directed me to inform you that at the investigation into the written charges preferred against you, * * * the board will, if you so desire, receive written re
ply from you regarding such charges. The board will also hear any oral statements you care to make, or any oral statements which you desire made by others having knowledge concerning the charges.
“This investigation will be held publicly. Counsel will not be heard. A written record will not he made by this Board of orál statements. You. will be expected to arrange to secure the presence of parties whom you desire to have make oral statements, and to present, or cause to be presented, any written statements which you desire to have considered.
“The trial will be held on June 19, 1924, at 8 o’clock p. m. * * * ”
Prom which it appears that, in substance, defendant refused: (1) To allow plaintiffs the assistance of counsel before it; (2) to issue summons for witnesses; and (3) to make any provision for reporting the oral statements made before it. On the other hand, defendant agreed: (1) To hear plaintiffs in person, or in writing; (2) to hear the statements, oral or written, of such persons as plaintiff might wish to have heard; and ■ (3) to hold the trial publicly. All of which appears from the petition and exhibits therewith filed. • .
III.
, Thereupon plaintiffs at once applied to the lower court for a mandamus, directing said board: (1) To allow plaintiffs to be assisted by counsel before it; (2) to make provision for a complete written record of all the proceedings had and oral statements made before it; (3) to summon as witnesses for plaintiffs such persons in its employ as plaintiffs may require; and also (4) to rescind its action fixing the trial for the hour of 8 o’clock p. m. and fix same for some hour between 9 a. m. and 6 p. m.; (5) to permit plaintiffs free access to its warehouses for the purpose of interviewing its employees; and (6) to pay plaintiffs their salaries in full froni the date of suspension until reinstated.
To which petition for mandamus the defendant excepted that it showed no cause of action; which exception was sustained below.
IY.
It will thus be seen that, (1) .although plaintiffs were refused the right to appear before defendant
through counsel,
they were none the less freely accorded the right to appear
in person-,
which meant (in effect) that the trial would be conducted “contradictorily” with plaintiffs, as required by the statute, but would not be conducted with the formality of a trial before a Court, nor surrounded with the technicalities and refinements incident to such trials,
wMch the statute does not require;
and (2) that, although the defendant would itself make no provision for reporting the proceedings had before it, nevertheless the trial would be
publicly
held, which (in effect) permitted plaintiffs to take and keep a full report of such proceedings.
V.
In our opinion the defendant was perfectly justified in its course. The right to be assisted by counsel is not one of the
natural rights of man;
but, on the contrary, is altogether a creature of positive law. Nothing in State ex rel. McMahon v. New Orleans, 107 La. 632, 32 So. 22, says anything to the contrary. All that was decided in that case was that the sham trial of McMahon before the city council was only a iarcial pretext for a trial (growing out of great excitement); and as one of the
incidents
of this pseudo trial mention was made of the fact that he was denied counsel, whilst his prosecutors (who were also his
judges)
were actively assisted by not only one but even
two
able attorneys. But such mention was made
principally
for the purpose of showing that McMahon had not waived any right by attempting to defend himself after his objections to going to trial had been overridden. Thus:
“When, therefore, he had offered them [his objections] and they were overruled, and the council ordered that the trial should proceed, he found himself without advice or witnesses and, practically, helpless; and, in view' of his application for relief [previously, and prematurely, made to the district court, and to this court] we do not think he should be held to have waived Ms rights.”
We do not think this case is authority for the proposition that one is always entitled to the assistance of counsel in all cases when he is entitled by law to be
heard,
even though such' right be not expressly granted. And.that is precisely what plaintiffs here contend.
On the contrary, we think the right to be hoard is one thing, and the right to be assisted by counsel is quite another thing. And this last (like the right to be confronted by witnesses) exists ,only to the extent that it is expressly granted by law. Cf. Const. U. S. Amend. 6, in fine. See, also, Merchants’ Stock & Grain Co. v. Board of Trade, 201 F. 20, 120 C. C. A. 582.
In the case before us this right is not granted. The statute provides merely that the charges “shall be proved contradictorily with (the one charged) to the satisfaction of said board (of port commissioners).”
VI.
In the same way, the statute does not provide that the proceedings and oral statements made at such trials shall be reduced to writing; and hence we are without authority to command defendants to cause them to be so reduced. Moreover, as we have said, the fact that the trial would be publicly held afforded plaintiffs full opportunity £o have said proceedings and oral statements reduced to writing.
On the other hand, if, when the trial takes place, it should occur that counsel for the board should appear not merely to advise said board
fairly
as to its rights
and duties
in connection with the trial and the method of conducting same,' but should also (as plaintiffs fear) take an active part in the prosecution of the charges against them, it will then be time enough for plaintiffs to lay before the courts the methods pursued at said trial to the end that they may then determine whether said trial was a trial
in fact
or a mere
pretext
for a trial.
VII.
Nothing in the statutes relating to the defendant board authorizes it to administer oaths or to summon witnesses. Hence the courts are without authority to compel it to do so. Oaths so administered would be vain, and process so 'issued would be void. But none the less it would have been more
gracious
for the board to have requested, or
invited,
the witnesses named by plaintiffs to appear before it.
VIII.
Of course the courts have no authority to prescribe
the hour,
or even the day, on which public boards shall transact their business. This must be prescribed either by law or by such board themselves. The district judge has well said:
“I know of no constitutional provision, or law of this state, which authorizes the Courts to legislate on this subject, or to do what I am asked in this petition, viz., to prescribe a lot of rules and regulations for this board under which it must hold this investigation.”
IX.
And, again of course, no court has authority to take control, even in part, of the property and port facilities intrusted by law to this board, and to direct the board to permit these plaintiffs free access to its warehouses for the purpose of interviewing such of its employees as they may desire. If plaintiffs desire to interview defendant’s employees, they ..are certainly at liberty to do so; but they are not entitled to free access to defendant’s premises for that purpose.
X.
The law has made no express provision for the
'suspension
of defendant’s employees pending their trial. But it is manifest that a suspended employee has no just cause for complaint. He is indeed entitled to a speedy trial if he demands it, and the courts will see that he gets it without unreasonable delay. If, on trial, he is found guilty of the charge and duly removed, that ends the matter, since nothing in the law contemplates, that the board should keep
and pwy
an incompetent, or negligent, or dishonest employee; and thus his final discharge after trial relates back to the time when he earned such discharge by his own improper conduct. And if, on trial, it is shown that he has not merited discharge, then his suspension is a mere enforced vacation for which the board must pay him as if he had never been suspended. Hence plaintiffs’ demand for salary during suspension is wholly premature at this time. If, in due course, they be reinstated by the board or by the courts, they will recover their salaries in full for the time of their suspension. And, if they are not finally re-instated, their claim will be without justification.
Decree.
The judgment appealed from is therefore affirmed.