STEVENS, Circuit Judge.
Taxpayer contends that its receipts of $597,596.49 and $606,122.22 in 1958 and 1959, respectively, were taxable as proceeds of sale, subject to capital gains treatment, rather than as income subject to a depletion allowance. The payments were made on account of a potential obligation of up to $134,619,089.76, payable, without interest, over an indeterminate period of time according to formulas based upon the production of gas from certain interests which the taxpayer conveyed to the obligor in 1955. The tax treatment of the payments depends
on whether taxpayer retained • an “economic interest” in the properties after the original arrangement between the parties was modified in 1958.
The tax court rejected the contention that the “economic interest” concept, as limited by the Supreme Court in Anderson v. Helvering, 310 U.S. 404, 60 S.Ct. 952, 84 L.Ed. 1277, does not encompass taxpayer’s retained interest in the gas in place because its right to future payment does not depend “solely” on extraction of the gas. 54 T.C. 1099. As in
Anderson,
taxpayer argues that an “additional type of security for the deferred payments” converted what otherwise would have been production payments into proceeds of sale. We first state the essential facts and then our understanding of
Anderson.
I.
Prior to March 15, 1955, taxpayer
had acquired a large number of valuable oil and gas leases in the San Juan Basin in New Mexico and Colorado. Generally speaking, those leases were either for a term of years or for such period as oil or gas could be produced; taxpayer’s interest was subject to a landowner’s royalty on the proceeds from the sale of oil or gas produced.
On March 16, 1955, taxpayer entered into six agreements conveying certain interests in 564 of those leases to Pacific.
Each conveyance was limited to specified geological formations thought to be gas-bearing only. Taxpayer retained oil and gas rights in remaining formations and also the benefit of any oil that might be discovered in the specific formations covered by the agreements. No surface rights were involved.
Pursuant to the 1955 agreements, Pacific reimbursed taxpayer for its investment in facilities and productive gas wells. In addition, Pacific agreed to pay taxpayer periodic amounts based on “the volume of gas produced and attributable to” the interests assigned to Pacific. To secure the payments, taxpayer was given a prior lien on all production from the properties. Pacific further agreed to make certain minimum payments computed on the basis of the capacity of the wells regardless of the volume of gas actually produced, and to give taxpayer the benefit of the oil content of any of the wells. It undertook to develop the gas rights at least as rapidly as it developed other properties which it had acquired in the same general area. In the event Pacific failed to meet any of its obligations, it was required to ' reassign its interest in the leases to taxpayer. Pacific was also entitled to reassign any portion of its rights which it determined could not be economically developed.
The 1955 agreements specifically prohibited Pacific from assigning any of its rights in the leases to any third party without the prior consent of taxpayer.
Although the witness Connor, who negotiated these agreements on behalf of taxpayer, testified that he thought he was selling real estate and that the proceeds would be taxed at capital gains rates, taxpayer's accounting department treated the payments received during 1955, 1956 and 1957 as ordinary income subject to depletion. Taxpayer does not question the propriety of that treatment of the payments received in those years. It does contend, however, that the Modification Agreements which Mr. Connor subsequently negotiated .changed the character of the transaction for the period subsequent to January 1, 1958. The Modification Agreements were specifically intended to obtain a tax benefit for the taxpayer. As a business proposition, those agreements had the effect
of limiting the amount of money which taxpayer might receive on account of the transfer of its interests to Pacific and of ' granting Pacific certain additional privileges.
Under the 1955 agreements there was no limit (except that imposed by nature on the volume of gas which might be extracted economically) on the amount which taxpayer might receive from Pacific, whereas under the 1958 modification the parties agreed to a limit of $134,619,089. The original agreements flatly prohibited any transfer of Pacific’s interest without the prior consent of taxpayer, whereas the modifications permitted such assignment to a third party, subject to all conditions contained in the existing agreements, provided that Pacific was required to pay to taxpayer 50% of the consideration received from any such assignment. Any such payment would be applied to reduce the balance then owed the taxpayer by Pacific.
Connor testified that he had negotiated the maximum payout of- $134,619,089 on the basis of actual payments which had already been made and estimates of total gas available. He had estimated that a full payout under the agreements as modified would require gas production until 1990, and that Pacific would then be left with obligation-free reserves of approximately 800,000 million cubic feet. These calculations assumed that the total amount of gas then available was over 1,800,000 million cubic feet. The tax court found that it was not possible to make a reliable determination as to the precise number of years required to pay the total consideration, but stated that a reasonable estimate would have been between 50 and 100 years. Moreover, the court found that on the basis of revised estimates of the reserves made in 1960, there would not have been a sufficient supply of gas to pay the total consideration of $134,619,089.
Since the Modification Agreements gave Pacific the right to sell its interest in the leases to a third party, and since taxpayer acquired a right to receive half of the proceeds of such a sale, it contends that after January 1, 1958, it did not look
solely
to the extraction of gas for the return of its investment and it therefore no longer retained an economic interest in the leases.
The tax court considered the likelihood of sale to a third party on terms which would result in payments to taxpayer on any basis other than on account of gas production pursuant to the contract formulas as too remote to have any legal significance. In this court taxpayer argues at length that antitrust proceedings in which the parent of Pacific was involved had created a significant likelihood of a forced sale. Alternatively, taxpayer argues that under
Anderson
the degree of probability of recovery from a source other than extraction of gas is irrelevant as long as the legal instruments created such a possibility.
We have analyzed the issue in two different ways; both lead us to conclude that taxpayer retained an economic interest in the gas rights.
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STEVENS, Circuit Judge.
Taxpayer contends that its receipts of $597,596.49 and $606,122.22 in 1958 and 1959, respectively, were taxable as proceeds of sale, subject to capital gains treatment, rather than as income subject to a depletion allowance. The payments were made on account of a potential obligation of up to $134,619,089.76, payable, without interest, over an indeterminate period of time according to formulas based upon the production of gas from certain interests which the taxpayer conveyed to the obligor in 1955. The tax treatment of the payments depends
on whether taxpayer retained • an “economic interest” in the properties after the original arrangement between the parties was modified in 1958.
The tax court rejected the contention that the “economic interest” concept, as limited by the Supreme Court in Anderson v. Helvering, 310 U.S. 404, 60 S.Ct. 952, 84 L.Ed. 1277, does not encompass taxpayer’s retained interest in the gas in place because its right to future payment does not depend “solely” on extraction of the gas. 54 T.C. 1099. As in
Anderson,
taxpayer argues that an “additional type of security for the deferred payments” converted what otherwise would have been production payments into proceeds of sale. We first state the essential facts and then our understanding of
Anderson.
I.
Prior to March 15, 1955, taxpayer
had acquired a large number of valuable oil and gas leases in the San Juan Basin in New Mexico and Colorado. Generally speaking, those leases were either for a term of years or for such period as oil or gas could be produced; taxpayer’s interest was subject to a landowner’s royalty on the proceeds from the sale of oil or gas produced.
On March 16, 1955, taxpayer entered into six agreements conveying certain interests in 564 of those leases to Pacific.
Each conveyance was limited to specified geological formations thought to be gas-bearing only. Taxpayer retained oil and gas rights in remaining formations and also the benefit of any oil that might be discovered in the specific formations covered by the agreements. No surface rights were involved.
Pursuant to the 1955 agreements, Pacific reimbursed taxpayer for its investment in facilities and productive gas wells. In addition, Pacific agreed to pay taxpayer periodic amounts based on “the volume of gas produced and attributable to” the interests assigned to Pacific. To secure the payments, taxpayer was given a prior lien on all production from the properties. Pacific further agreed to make certain minimum payments computed on the basis of the capacity of the wells regardless of the volume of gas actually produced, and to give taxpayer the benefit of the oil content of any of the wells. It undertook to develop the gas rights at least as rapidly as it developed other properties which it had acquired in the same general area. In the event Pacific failed to meet any of its obligations, it was required to ' reassign its interest in the leases to taxpayer. Pacific was also entitled to reassign any portion of its rights which it determined could not be economically developed.
The 1955 agreements specifically prohibited Pacific from assigning any of its rights in the leases to any third party without the prior consent of taxpayer.
Although the witness Connor, who negotiated these agreements on behalf of taxpayer, testified that he thought he was selling real estate and that the proceeds would be taxed at capital gains rates, taxpayer's accounting department treated the payments received during 1955, 1956 and 1957 as ordinary income subject to depletion. Taxpayer does not question the propriety of that treatment of the payments received in those years. It does contend, however, that the Modification Agreements which Mr. Connor subsequently negotiated .changed the character of the transaction for the period subsequent to January 1, 1958. The Modification Agreements were specifically intended to obtain a tax benefit for the taxpayer. As a business proposition, those agreements had the effect
of limiting the amount of money which taxpayer might receive on account of the transfer of its interests to Pacific and of ' granting Pacific certain additional privileges.
Under the 1955 agreements there was no limit (except that imposed by nature on the volume of gas which might be extracted economically) on the amount which taxpayer might receive from Pacific, whereas under the 1958 modification the parties agreed to a limit of $134,619,089. The original agreements flatly prohibited any transfer of Pacific’s interest without the prior consent of taxpayer, whereas the modifications permitted such assignment to a third party, subject to all conditions contained in the existing agreements, provided that Pacific was required to pay to taxpayer 50% of the consideration received from any such assignment. Any such payment would be applied to reduce the balance then owed the taxpayer by Pacific.
Connor testified that he had negotiated the maximum payout of- $134,619,089 on the basis of actual payments which had already been made and estimates of total gas available. He had estimated that a full payout under the agreements as modified would require gas production until 1990, and that Pacific would then be left with obligation-free reserves of approximately 800,000 million cubic feet. These calculations assumed that the total amount of gas then available was over 1,800,000 million cubic feet. The tax court found that it was not possible to make a reliable determination as to the precise number of years required to pay the total consideration, but stated that a reasonable estimate would have been between 50 and 100 years. Moreover, the court found that on the basis of revised estimates of the reserves made in 1960, there would not have been a sufficient supply of gas to pay the total consideration of $134,619,089.
Since the Modification Agreements gave Pacific the right to sell its interest in the leases to a third party, and since taxpayer acquired a right to receive half of the proceeds of such a sale, it contends that after January 1, 1958, it did not look
solely
to the extraction of gas for the return of its investment and it therefore no longer retained an economic interest in the leases.
The tax court considered the likelihood of sale to a third party on terms which would result in payments to taxpayer on any basis other than on account of gas production pursuant to the contract formulas as too remote to have any legal significance. In this court taxpayer argues at length that antitrust proceedings in which the parent of Pacific was involved had created a significant likelihood of a forced sale. Alternatively, taxpayer argues that under
Anderson
the degree of probability of recovery from a source other than extraction of gas is irrelevant as long as the legal instruments created such a possibility.
We have analyzed the issue in two different ways; both lead us to conclude that taxpayer retained an economic interest in the gas rights. We first assume, as taxpayer argues, that the tax court incorrectly appraised the likelihood of a sale of Pacific’s interest, and further, that there is a significant possibility that such a sale would result in a substantial cash payment to taxpayer. We shall then explain why we think the re
moteness of
that
possibility confirms our conclusion that taxpayer has retained an economic interest in the gas rights notwithstanding the Modification Agreements in 1958.
II.
Unlike the owners of most kinds of capital assets who may recover their investment by depreciation deductions, the owner of a capital interest in minerals in place receives a depletion deduction as compensation for the disposition of his capital.
As long as he retains a legal interest in the wasting asset, he realizes income subject to depletion, rather than capital gains, from its disposition. Burnet v. Harmel, 287 U.S. 103, 108-109, 53 S.Ct. 74, 77 L.Ed. 199. Even if he retains no legal interest as a matter of state law, the same consequence follows if, as a matter of federal tax law, he retains an “economic interest” in a depletable asset.
That term was first used in Palmer v. Bender, 287 U.S. 551, 53 S.Ct. 225, 77 L.Ed. 489.
In that case, the Court held that the transferor of an interest in oil leases, who received a cash bonus, a production payment, and an excess royalty, could claim a depletion deduction on the amounts received, even though he retained no legal interest in the oil as a matter of local law.
“The language of the statute is broad enough to provide, at least, for every case in which the taxpayer has acquired, by investment, any interest in the oil in place, and secures, by any form of legal relationship, income derived from the extraction of the oil, to which he must look for a return of his capital.
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“Similarly, the lessor’s right to a depletion allowance does not depend upon his retention of ownership or any other particular form of legal interest in the mineral content of the land. It is enough if, by virtue of the leasing transaction, he has retained a right to share in the oil produced. If so, he has an economic interest in the oil, in place, which is depleted by production. Thus we have recently held that the lessor is entitled to a depletion allowance on bonus and royalties, although by the local law ownership of the minerals, in place, passed from the lessor upon the execution of the lease. See Burnet v. Harmel,
supra;
Bankers’ Pocahontas Coal Co. v. Burnet,
287 U.S. 308, 53 S.Ct. 150, 77 L.Ed. 325.”
In subsequent cases, the economic interest concept was used to differentiate between capital and income transactions. If a transferor retains an “economic interest” in mineral rights, as a matter of federal tax law he has not made a sale of those rights regardless of how the transaction is classified under state law. Burton-Sutton Oil Co. v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 328 U.S. 25, 32-36, 66 S.Ct. 861, 90 L.Ed. 1062; see also Commissioner of Internal Revenue v. P. G. Lake, Inc., 356 U.S. 260, 264-265, 78 S.Ct. 691, 2 L.Ed.2d 743.
In Anderson v. Helvering, 310 U.S. 404, 60 S.Ct. 952, 84 L.Ed. 1277, the transferee of certain royalty interests, fee interests, and deferred oil payments in property in Oklahoma contended that he had not made a purchase because the transferor had retained an economic interest in the property. The conveyance was absolute as a matter of Oklahoma law, but inasmuch as the deferred portion of the purchase price was payable from one-half of the proceeds to be received by the transferee from his disposition of the properties, he argued that the vendor continued to have an economic interest in the assets until payment was completed. Accordingly, the taxpayer claimed that the consideration paid for the assets was income to the transferor and deductible by the transferee.
The Supreme Court held that the Commissioner had properly disallowed the deduction because the transferor was not dependent “entirely” on production of oil for the deferred payments; they might also be derived from sales of the fee title to the land conveyed.
In this case, taxpayer contends that after the execution of the 1958 Modification Agreements it was no longer dependent
entirely
on the extraction of gas for future payments by Pacific; they might also be derived from one-half of Pacific’s share in the proceeds of a possible sale of the gas rights. Under the reasoning of the
Anderson
opinion, taxpayer therefore argues that the assignment privilege granted to Pacific in 1958 destroyed taxpayer’s economic interest in the gas rights. Although this contention is supported by later opinions referring to the requirement that the taxpayer must look “solely” to the extraction of oil or gas for the return of his capital in order to find that he has an economic interest in the minerals in
place,
we reject taxpayer’s interpretation of the
Anderson
opinion.
Under taxpayer’s interpretation, the economic interest survives as long as he has a right to be paid solely as a result of production, but the interest is extinguished if the transferor also retains a right to share in the proceeds of a possible resale. That interpretation is consistent with the fact that the alternate source of payment in
Anderson
was the proceeds of sale of the fee interests which had been conveyed as part of the package which included the mineral rights. Fairly read, however, we believe the
Anderson
opinion’s reference to “additional security” contemplates reliance on a source of payment other than the depletable asset itself. As we construe the emphasis on the “fee title to the land conveyed” in
Anderson,
it attaches importance to the existence of rights in the nondepletable surface rather than to the fact that the conveyance gave the transferee complete ownership of the wasting assets.
A contrary interpretation would be inconsistent with Palmer v. Bender because in that case the Court held that a transfer of complete ownership as a matter of local law did not terminate the transferor’s economic interest in the transferred assets. See 287 U.S. at 556-558, 53 S.Ct. 225.
Two comments in the
Anderson
opinion support this interpretation. The Court compared the economic importance of the reservation of an interest in the fee to a personal guarantee of the credit of the transferee;
in short,
other assets
— -not merely a different disposition of the same asset — would provide security for the deferred obligation. Moreover, in its review of the facts in Thomas v. Perkins, 301 U.S. 655, 57 S.Ct. 911, 81 L.Ed. 1324, the Court noted that the transferor’s right to payments solely out of production was in the nature of “a reservation from the granting clause” of sufficient oil to make the payments.
Such a reservation identifies the asset in which the transferor retains an economic interest; it certainly does not imply that a transferee’s decision to reconvey to another producer, instead of producing himself, would impair that interest.
We therefore interpret
Anderson
as requiring that the “additional security” relate to assets other than the specific rights transferred. This interpretation is supported by persuasive authority.
III.
Notwithstanding the Court’s occasional use of the words “entirely” and “solely,” it is also reasonable to assume that the alternate source of payout must have some substantial economic significance.
In the
Anderson
case the record did not disclose what portion of the transferee’s gross proceeds was derived from the production and sale of oil and gas and what portion, if any, was derived from the sale of land.
But in that case the burden was upon the transferee taxpayer to support his claim that the entire purchase price would be paid to the transferor from the production of oil and therefore that he could exclude the amount paid from his gross income. In the absence of evidence that the surface rights were worthless, or perhaps only of nominal value, it is reasonable to infer from the form of the transaction that the parties, and the court, considered the surface rights significant.
The additional security in this case, is, as a practical matter, insignificant because of the improbability that any cash will be realized from it. As we noted above, taxpayer argues at length that pending antitrust proceedings made it likely, contrary to the tax court’s conclusion, that Pacific would be forced to sell its interests. Although the tax court’s assessment of probabilities was adequately supported by the record before it, we accept, for the sake of argument, taxpayer’s assertion that the antitrust proceedings against El Paso Natural Gas Co., which had acquired Pacific, might reasonably have led to the sale of Pacific’s properties. This does not, however, mean that there is a likelihood that there will be significant cash proceeds payable to Standard. The terms of the Modification Agreements provide that the “50 percent of the proceeds” provision does not apply to assignments made by Pacific pursuant to the provisions of certain mortgages or deeds of trust or to assignments made as part of any corporate reorganization or merger or to any assignment made to a parent
or subsidiary corporation of Pacific. Thus, there is ample flexibility to structure a retransfer to satisfy both the antitrust laws and the exclusionary language of the Modification Agreements. The total $134,000,000 obligation is interest free. It is improbable that Pacific and an arm’s length buyer would agree on terms which would include the payment of a significant amount of cash to obtain the premature discharge of an interest free obligation.
Thus, for two independent reasons, we hold that taxpayer’s reliance on
Anderson
is misplaced. First, the possibility that Pacific’s interest in the gas rights conveyed to it by taxpayer will be resold to a third party and a share of the sale proceeds paid to taxpayer does not diminish — or extinguish —taxpayer’s economic interest in those gas rights; the value of its right to deferred payments is dependent “solely” and “entirely” on the expectation of future' production or conversely, on the risk of nonproduction before it has received a full payout of $134,619,089. Furthermore, the “additional security” in this case does not meet the requirement of “significance” which we believe the rationale of
Anderson
requires. The record persuades us that the possibility of a purchase of Pacific’s rights by a third party on terms which would in fact give the taxpayer any accelerated recovery is too remote to be considered significant or substantial.
We therefore hold that taxpayer’s economic interest in the gas formations in the San Juan Basin, which was retained notwithstanding the conveyances to Pacific in 1955, also survived the 1958 Modification Agreements.
The judgment of the tax court is affirmed.