1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 9 CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 10 SOUTHERN DIVISION 11 RUBY V.,1 ) Case No. 8:19-cv-00871-JDE ) 12 ) Plaintiff, ) MEMORANDUM OPINION AND 13 ) ORDER ) 14 v. ) ) 15 ANDREW M. SAUL,2 ) )
Commissioner of Social Security, ) 16 ) ) 17 Defendant. ) 18 19 Plaintiff Ruby V. (“Plaintiff”) filed a Complaint on May 9, 2019, seeking 20 review of the Commissioner’s denial of her application for disability insurance 21 benefits (“DIB”). The parties filed a Joint Submission (“Jt. Stip.”) regarding the 22 issues in dispute on March 18, 2020. The matter now is ready for decision. 23 24 1 Plaintiff's name has been partially redacted in accordance with Fed. R. Civ. P. 25 5.2(c)(2)(B) and the recommendation of the Committee on Court Administration and Case Management of the Judicial Conference of the United States. 26 27 2 Andrew M. Saul, now Commissioner of the Social Security Administration, is substituted as defendant for Nancy A. Berryhill. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 25(d). 28 1 I. 2 BACKGROUND 3 On March 13, 2015, Plaintiff protectively filed an application for DIB, 4 and on March 30, 2015, she protectively filed an application for supplemental 5 security income (“SSI”). AR 16, 254-64. In both applications she alleged 6 disability starting December 31, 2012. AR 16, 256, 258. On August 17, 2017, 7 after her applications were denied initially and on reconsideration (AR 132-33, 8 149-50), Plaintiff, represented by counsel, testified via video before an 9 Administrative Law Judge (“ALJ”), and a vocational expert (“VE”) testified 10 telephonically. AR 16, 40-70. 11 On January 23, 2018, regarding the DIB application, the ALJ found 12 Plaintiff was not disabled through December 31, 2012, the date last insured. AR 13 16-31. Regarding the SSI application, the ALJ found her disabled beginning 14 May 23, 2014. Id. The ALJ found Plaintiff had not engaged in substantial 15 gainful activity since the alleged-onset date and found she had severe 16 impairments of asthma, depression, and anxiety. AR 20. The ALJ also found 17 Plaintiff did not have an impairment or combination of impairments that met or 18 medically equaled a listed impairment and had the residual functional capacity 19 (“RFC”) to perform a light work3, except Plaintiff: (1) must never work in the 20 presence of unprotected heights and hazardous machinery; (2) should avoid 21
22 3 “Light work” is defined as 23 lifting no more than 20 pounds at a time with frequent lifting or carrying of objects weighing up to 10 pounds. Even though the weight 24 lifted may be very little, a job is in this category when it requires a good 25 deal of walking or standing, or when it involves sitting most of the time with some pushing and pulling of arm or leg controls. To be considered 26 capable of performing a full or wide range of light work, you must have 27 the ability to do substantially all of these activities. 20 C.F.R. § 404.1567(b); see also Rendon G. v. Berryhill, 2019 WL 2006688, at *3 28 n.6 (C.D. Cal. May 7, 2019). 1 exposure to extreme temperatures, dust, chemicals, and fumes; (3) is limited to 2 no more than frequent stooping, crouching, crawling, twisting, and bending; 3 (4) is limited to moderately complex tasks with no public contact; (5) is limited 4 to no more than occasional interaction with supervisors, coworkers, or the 5 general public; and (6) is precluded from fast-paced work such as production- 6 rate-pace jobs. AR 21-23. 7 The ALJ further found that since December 31, 2012, Plaintiff has been 8 unable to perform her past-relevant work as an administrative clerk (Dictionary 9 of Occupational Titles [“DOT”] 219.362-010). AR 28. The ALJ next found 10 that, prior to the date last insured, Plaintiff was an individual closely 11 approaching advanced age, but, on May 23, 2014, her age category changed to 12 advanced age. AR 29. The ALJ found that, prior the age-category change, there 13 were jobs that existed in significant numbers in the national economy Plaintiff 14 could have performed, including, office helper (DOT 239.567-010), general 15 office machine operator/photo copy machine operator (DOT 207.685-014), and 16 mail clerk (DOT 209.587-026). AR 29-30. However, beginning the date the age- 17 category changed, there were no jobs Plaintiff could perform. AR 30. 18 Accordingly, the ALJ found Plaintiff was not disabled prior to May 23, 2014, 19 but became disabled on that date and continued to be disabled through the date 20 of the decision. AR 30. The ALJ also found Plaintiff was not under a disability 21 at any time through December 31, 2012, the date last insured. AR 30. Thus, 22 based on her DIB application Plaintiff was not disabled through December 31, 23 2012, but based on her SSI application she was disabled beginning May 23, 24 2014. AR 30. 25 Plaintiff’s request for review of the ALJ’s decision by the Appeals 26 Council was denied, making the ALJ’s decision the agency’s final decision. AR 27 1-6. This action followed. 28 / / / 1 II. 2 LEGAL STANDARDS 3 A. Standard of Review 4 Under 42 U.S.C. § 405(g), this court may review the Commissioner’s 5 decision to deny benefits. The ALJ’s findings and decision should be upheld if 6 they are free from legal error and supported by substantial evidence based on 7 the record as a whole. Brown-Hunter v. Colvin, 806 F.3d 487, 492 (9th Cir. 8 2015) (as amended); Parra v. Astrue, 481 F.3d 742, 746 (9th Cir. 2007). 9 Substantial evidence means such relevant evidence as a reasonable person 10 might accept as adequate to support a conclusion. Lingenfelter v. Astrue, 504 11 F.3d 1028, 1035 (9th Cir. 2007). It is more than a scintilla, but less than a 12 preponderance. Id. To determine whether substantial evidence supports a 13 finding, the reviewing court “must review the administrative record as a whole, 14 weighing both the evidence that supports and the evidence that detracts from 15 the Commissioner’s conclusion.” Reddick v. Chater, 157 F.3d 715, 720 (9th 16 Cir. 1998). “If the evidence can reasonably support either affirming or 17 reversing,” the reviewing court “may not substitute its judgment” for that of 18 the Commissioner. Id. at 720-21; see also Molina v. Astrue, 674 F.3d 1104, 19 1111 (9th Cir. 2012) (“Even when the evidence is susceptible to more than one 20 rational interpretation, [the court] must uphold the ALJ’s findings if they are 21 supported by inferences reasonably drawn from the record.”). 22 Lastly, even if an ALJ errs, the decision will be affirmed where such 23 error is harmless (Molina, 674 F.3d at 1115), that is, if it is “inconsequential to 24 the ultimate nondisability determination,” or if “the agency’s path may 25 reasonably be discerned, even if the agency explains its decision with less than 26 ideal clarity.” Brown-Hunter, 806 F.3d at 492 (citation omitted). 27 28 1 B. Standard for Determining Disability Benefits 2 When the claimant’s case has proceeded to consideration by an ALJ, the 3 ALJ conducts a five-step sequential evaluation to determine at each step if the 4 claimant is or is not disabled. See Ford v. Saul, 950 F.3d 1141, 1148-49 (9th 5 Cir.
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 9 CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 10 SOUTHERN DIVISION 11 RUBY V.,1 ) Case No. 8:19-cv-00871-JDE ) 12 ) Plaintiff, ) MEMORANDUM OPINION AND 13 ) ORDER ) 14 v. ) ) 15 ANDREW M. SAUL,2 ) )
Commissioner of Social Security, ) 16 ) ) 17 Defendant. ) 18 19 Plaintiff Ruby V. (“Plaintiff”) filed a Complaint on May 9, 2019, seeking 20 review of the Commissioner’s denial of her application for disability insurance 21 benefits (“DIB”). The parties filed a Joint Submission (“Jt. Stip.”) regarding the 22 issues in dispute on March 18, 2020. The matter now is ready for decision. 23 24 1 Plaintiff's name has been partially redacted in accordance with Fed. R. Civ. P. 25 5.2(c)(2)(B) and the recommendation of the Committee on Court Administration and Case Management of the Judicial Conference of the United States. 26 27 2 Andrew M. Saul, now Commissioner of the Social Security Administration, is substituted as defendant for Nancy A. Berryhill. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 25(d). 28 1 I. 2 BACKGROUND 3 On March 13, 2015, Plaintiff protectively filed an application for DIB, 4 and on March 30, 2015, she protectively filed an application for supplemental 5 security income (“SSI”). AR 16, 254-64. In both applications she alleged 6 disability starting December 31, 2012. AR 16, 256, 258. On August 17, 2017, 7 after her applications were denied initially and on reconsideration (AR 132-33, 8 149-50), Plaintiff, represented by counsel, testified via video before an 9 Administrative Law Judge (“ALJ”), and a vocational expert (“VE”) testified 10 telephonically. AR 16, 40-70. 11 On January 23, 2018, regarding the DIB application, the ALJ found 12 Plaintiff was not disabled through December 31, 2012, the date last insured. AR 13 16-31. Regarding the SSI application, the ALJ found her disabled beginning 14 May 23, 2014. Id. The ALJ found Plaintiff had not engaged in substantial 15 gainful activity since the alleged-onset date and found she had severe 16 impairments of asthma, depression, and anxiety. AR 20. The ALJ also found 17 Plaintiff did not have an impairment or combination of impairments that met or 18 medically equaled a listed impairment and had the residual functional capacity 19 (“RFC”) to perform a light work3, except Plaintiff: (1) must never work in the 20 presence of unprotected heights and hazardous machinery; (2) should avoid 21
22 3 “Light work” is defined as 23 lifting no more than 20 pounds at a time with frequent lifting or carrying of objects weighing up to 10 pounds. Even though the weight 24 lifted may be very little, a job is in this category when it requires a good 25 deal of walking or standing, or when it involves sitting most of the time with some pushing and pulling of arm or leg controls. To be considered 26 capable of performing a full or wide range of light work, you must have 27 the ability to do substantially all of these activities. 20 C.F.R. § 404.1567(b); see also Rendon G. v. Berryhill, 2019 WL 2006688, at *3 28 n.6 (C.D. Cal. May 7, 2019). 1 exposure to extreme temperatures, dust, chemicals, and fumes; (3) is limited to 2 no more than frequent stooping, crouching, crawling, twisting, and bending; 3 (4) is limited to moderately complex tasks with no public contact; (5) is limited 4 to no more than occasional interaction with supervisors, coworkers, or the 5 general public; and (6) is precluded from fast-paced work such as production- 6 rate-pace jobs. AR 21-23. 7 The ALJ further found that since December 31, 2012, Plaintiff has been 8 unable to perform her past-relevant work as an administrative clerk (Dictionary 9 of Occupational Titles [“DOT”] 219.362-010). AR 28. The ALJ next found 10 that, prior to the date last insured, Plaintiff was an individual closely 11 approaching advanced age, but, on May 23, 2014, her age category changed to 12 advanced age. AR 29. The ALJ found that, prior the age-category change, there 13 were jobs that existed in significant numbers in the national economy Plaintiff 14 could have performed, including, office helper (DOT 239.567-010), general 15 office machine operator/photo copy machine operator (DOT 207.685-014), and 16 mail clerk (DOT 209.587-026). AR 29-30. However, beginning the date the age- 17 category changed, there were no jobs Plaintiff could perform. AR 30. 18 Accordingly, the ALJ found Plaintiff was not disabled prior to May 23, 2014, 19 but became disabled on that date and continued to be disabled through the date 20 of the decision. AR 30. The ALJ also found Plaintiff was not under a disability 21 at any time through December 31, 2012, the date last insured. AR 30. Thus, 22 based on her DIB application Plaintiff was not disabled through December 31, 23 2012, but based on her SSI application she was disabled beginning May 23, 24 2014. AR 30. 25 Plaintiff’s request for review of the ALJ’s decision by the Appeals 26 Council was denied, making the ALJ’s decision the agency’s final decision. AR 27 1-6. This action followed. 28 / / / 1 II. 2 LEGAL STANDARDS 3 A. Standard of Review 4 Under 42 U.S.C. § 405(g), this court may review the Commissioner’s 5 decision to deny benefits. The ALJ’s findings and decision should be upheld if 6 they are free from legal error and supported by substantial evidence based on 7 the record as a whole. Brown-Hunter v. Colvin, 806 F.3d 487, 492 (9th Cir. 8 2015) (as amended); Parra v. Astrue, 481 F.3d 742, 746 (9th Cir. 2007). 9 Substantial evidence means such relevant evidence as a reasonable person 10 might accept as adequate to support a conclusion. Lingenfelter v. Astrue, 504 11 F.3d 1028, 1035 (9th Cir. 2007). It is more than a scintilla, but less than a 12 preponderance. Id. To determine whether substantial evidence supports a 13 finding, the reviewing court “must review the administrative record as a whole, 14 weighing both the evidence that supports and the evidence that detracts from 15 the Commissioner’s conclusion.” Reddick v. Chater, 157 F.3d 715, 720 (9th 16 Cir. 1998). “If the evidence can reasonably support either affirming or 17 reversing,” the reviewing court “may not substitute its judgment” for that of 18 the Commissioner. Id. at 720-21; see also Molina v. Astrue, 674 F.3d 1104, 19 1111 (9th Cir. 2012) (“Even when the evidence is susceptible to more than one 20 rational interpretation, [the court] must uphold the ALJ’s findings if they are 21 supported by inferences reasonably drawn from the record.”). 22 Lastly, even if an ALJ errs, the decision will be affirmed where such 23 error is harmless (Molina, 674 F.3d at 1115), that is, if it is “inconsequential to 24 the ultimate nondisability determination,” or if “the agency’s path may 25 reasonably be discerned, even if the agency explains its decision with less than 26 ideal clarity.” Brown-Hunter, 806 F.3d at 492 (citation omitted). 27 28 1 B. Standard for Determining Disability Benefits 2 When the claimant’s case has proceeded to consideration by an ALJ, the 3 ALJ conducts a five-step sequential evaluation to determine at each step if the 4 claimant is or is not disabled. See Ford v. Saul, 950 F.3d 1141, 1148-49 (9th 5 Cir. 2020); Molina, 674 F.3d at 1110. 6 First, the ALJ considers whether the claimant currently works at a job 7 that meets the criteria for “substantial gainful activity.” Molina, 674 F.3d at 8 1110. If not, the ALJ proceeds to a second step to determine whether the 9 claimant has a “severe” medically determinable physical or mental impairment 10 or combination of impairments that has lasted for more than twelve months. 11 Id. If so, the ALJ proceeds to a third step to determine whether the claimant’s 12 impairments render the claimant disabled because they “meet or equal” any of 13 the “listed impairments” set forth in the Social Security regulations at 20 14 C.F.R. Part 404, Subpart P, Appendix 1. See Rounds v. Comm’r Soc. Sec. 15 Admin., 807 F.3d 996, 1001 (9th Cir. 2015). If the claimant’s impairments do 16 not meet or equal a “listed impairment,” before proceeding to the fourth step 17 the ALJ assesses the claimant’s RFC, that is, what the claimant can do on a 18 sustained basis despite the limitations from her impairments. See 20 C.F.R. 19 § 404.1520(a)(4); Social Security Ruling (“SSR”) 96-8p. 20 After determining the claimant’s RFC, the ALJ proceeds to the fourth 21 step and determines whether the claimant has the RFC to perform her past 22 relevant work, either as she “actually” performed it when she worked in the 23 past, or as that same job is “generally” performed in the national economy. See 24 Stacy v. Colvin, 825 F.3d 563, 569 (9th Cir. 2016). If the claimant cannot 25 perform her past relevant work, the ALJ proceeds to a fifth and final step to 26 determine whether there is any other work, in light of the claimant’s RFC, age, 27 education, and work experience, that the claimant can perform and that exists 28 in “significant numbers” in either the national or regional economies. See 1 Tackett v. Apfel, 180 F.3d 1094, 1100-01 (9th Cir. 1999). If the claimant can 2 do other work, she is not disabled; but if the claimant cannot do other work 3 and meets the duration requirement, the claimant is disabled. See id. at 1099. 4 The claimant generally bears the burden at each of steps one through 5 four to show she is disabled, or she meets the requirements to proceed to the 6 next step; and the claimant bears the ultimate burden to show she is disabled. 7 See, e.g., Ford, 950 F.3d at 1148; Molina, 674 F.3d at 1110. However, at step 8 five, the ALJ has a “limited” burden of production to identify representative 9 jobs that the claimant can perform and that exist in “significant” numbers in 10 the economy. See Hill v. Astrue, 698 F.3d 1153, 1161 (9th Cir. 2012); Tackett, 11 180 F.3d at 1100. 12 III. 13 DISCUSSION 14 The parties present two disputed issues (Jt. Stip. at 4):4 15 Issue No. 1: Whether the ALJ properly considered the evidence concerning 16 the number of jobs; and 17 Issue No. 2: Whether the ALJ’s decision is supported by substantial 18 evidence. 19 In both disputed issues, Plaintiff challenges the ALJ’s step-five 20 determination. In Issue No. 1, Plaintiff contends that the DOT does not 21 describe or classify social interaction with people, and because the VE could 22 not “guarantee” that the representative occupations would not require more 23 than occasional contact with supervisors, he thus could not describe an 24 occupation Plaintiff could sustain. Jt. Stip. 8-9, 14-15. Plaintiff also contends 25 that the ALJ did not consider the consistency of the VE’s testimony with 26
27 4 Plaintiff challenges the denial of her DIB application, for the period prior to May 23, 2014, only. See Jt. Stip. at 4. 28 1 County Business Patterns (“CBP”) and other evidence Plaintiff submitted post- 2 hearing. Jt. Stip. at 10-12, 15-16. In Issue No. 2, Plaintiff contends that the 3 ALJ also did not properly consider information from the Department of 4 Labor’s O*NET OnLine, Job Browser Pro, and other sources. Jt. Stip. at 16- 5 20, 24-26. Finally, Plaintiff contends that VE did not provide any basis for a 6 reasonable person to conclude that the representative occupations existed in 7 the numbers he stated. Id. 8 A. Applicable Law 9 The Commissioner bears the burden of “show[ing] that the claimant can 10 perform some other work that exists in ‘significant numbers’ in the national 11 economy, taking into consideration the claimant’s [RFC], age, education, and 12 work experience.” Tackett, 180 F.3d at 1100 (citation omitted). There is no 13 bright-line rule for what constitutes a significant number of jobs. Beltran v. 14 Astrue, 700 F.3d 386, 389 (9th Cir. 2012). The Commissioner’s burden can be 15 met: “(a) by the testimony of a VE, or (b) by reference to the Medical- 16 Vocational Guidelines [‘the Grids’] . . ..” Tackett, 180 F.3d at 1101. 17 The Grids are matrices of “four factors identified by Congress—physical 18 ability, age, education, and work experience—and set forth rules that identify 19 whether jobs requiring specific combinations of these factors exist in significant 20 numbers in the national economy.” Heckler v. Campbell, 461 U.S. 458, 461-62 21 (1983). When properly applied, the Grids “render[ ] a conclusion of either 22 ‘disabled’ or ‘non-disabled’” based on the number of jobs “that the 23 Administration has determined exist in significant numbers in the national 24 economy.” Barnes v. Berryhill, 895 F.3d 702, 706 (9th Cir. 2018); 42 U.S.C. 25 § 423(d)(1)(A). 26 When the claimant cannot perform substantially all the exertional 27 demands of work at a given level of exertion and/or has nonexertional 28 limitations, the Grids are used as a “framework” for decision-making, unless 1 there is a rule that directs a conclusion of “disabled” without considering the 2 additional exertional and/or nonexertional limitations. SSR 83-12, 83-14. 3 An ALJ may take administrative notice of any reliable job information, 4 including information provided by a VE. Johnson v. Shalala, 60 F.3d 1428, 5 1435 (9th Cir. 1995). “A VE’s recognized expertise provides the necessary 6 foundation for his or her testimony” and “no additional foundation is 7 required.” Buck v. Berryhill, 869 F.3d 1040, 1051 (9th Cir. 2017) (quoting 8 Bayliss v. Barnhart, 427 F.3d 1211, 1218 (9th Cir. 2005)). “Given its inherent 9 reliability, a qualified [VE]’s testimony as to the number of jobs existing in the 10 national economy that a claimant can perform is ordinarily sufficient by itself 11 to support an ALJ’s step-five finding.” Ford, 950 F.3d at 1160; see also Buck, 12 869 F.3d at 1051. 13 B. Analysis 14 During the administrative hearing, the ALJ presented a hypothetical 15 containing Plaintiff’s limitations, including “no public contact” and “no more 16 than occasional interaction with supervisors and coworkers.” AR 65-66. The 17 VE concluded that a hypothetical person with that RFC could perform the 18 office helper position (DOT 239.567-010) with 86,600 jobs available 19 nationally, general office machine operator position, one example being 20 photocopying machine operator (DOT 207.685-014), with 266,000 jobs 21 available nationally, and the mail clerk, non-postal position (DOT 209.587- 22 026) with 62,000 jobs available nationally. AR 66-67. 23 Plaintiff’s counsel asked the VE whether there were jobs the VE “could 24 guarantee that there would only be occasional contact with supervisors?” AR 25 68. The VE answered that he could not guarantee anything. Id. The ALJ then 26 struck the answer because it was an improper question, explaining that the 27 VE’s testimony was based on the DOT and that VEs do not guarantee any 28 aspect of a job. Id. Counsel then asked how the DOT classifies social 1 interaction with any other type of individual with respect to the jobs identified, 2 to which the VE responded, “It doesn’t.” Id. Counsel also asked the VE if he 3 “checked [his] numbers against County Business Patterns?” AR 68-69. The 4 ALJ directed the VE not to answer that question because the VE’s testimony 5 was based on national numbers, not county numbers. AR. 69. The ALJ asked 6 counsel to rephrase, and counsel then asked if the VE “add[ed] up the numbers 7 that County Business Patterns” provides to see if it matched the national 8 numbers, and the VE said he did not, explaining that there are hundreds of 9 counties in the nation. AR 69-70. Finally, the VE testified that, in addition to 10 the DOT, he relied on the OASYS program5, and his testimony was consistent 11 with the Occupational Outlook Handbook (“OOH”). AR 69-70. 12 In the decision, the ALJ found that prior to May 23, 2014, if Plaintiff 13 had the RFC to perform a full range of light work, a finding of “not disabled” 14 would be directed by Medical-Vocational Rule 202.14. AR 29. However, 15 because Plaintiff’s ability to perform all or substantially all the requirements of 16 that level of work was impeded by additional limitations, the ALJ explained 17 that she consulted the VE. AR 29. The ALJ detailed the VE’s testimony, 18 including the representative occupations and the job numbers in the national 19 economy, and concluded it was consistent with the DOT. AR 30. Based on 20 that testimony, and considering Plaintiff’s age, education, work experience, 21 and RFC, the ALJ found Plaintiff was capable of making a successful 22 adjustment to other work that existed in significant numbers in the national 23 24 5 The parties do not provide any information as to what the “OASYS” program 25 is in the Joint Stipulation. It appears to be a software program that identifies occupations that could be consistent with an employee’s qualifications and abilities. 26 See Patrick v. Hewlett-Packard Co. Employee Benefits Org. Income Prot. Plan, 638 27 F. Supp. 2d 1195, 1211 (S.D. Cal. 2009); Dionida v. Reliance Standard Life Ins. Co., 50 F. Supp. 2d 934, 937 (N.D. Cal. 1999). 28 1 economy. AR 30. Accordingly, under this “framework” analysis, the ALJ 2 concluded that Plaintiff was “not disabled” prior to May 23, 2014. AR 30. 3 Plaintiff has failed to demonstrate error in this detailed step-five 4 determination. During the hearing, the VE testified that a hypothetical person 5 matching Plaintiff’s RFC could perform the representative occupations, and 6 that they existed in significant numbers in the national economy. AR 66-67. 7 As mentioned, the hypothetical specifically included “no more than occasional 8 interaction with supervisors and coworkers,” and the VE even confirmed that 9 limitation during questioning. AR 65-66. Plaintiff does not challenge the 10 limitations in the hypothetical question or the RFC.6 Accordingly, that 11 testimony is substantial evidence supporting the ALJ’s determination and 12 meets the Commissioner’s burden. See Ford, 950 F.3d at 1160 (VE testimony 13 is inherently reliable and ordinarily sufficient “by itself” to support step five); 14 Osenbrock v. Apfel, 240 F.3d 1157, 1162-63 (9th Cir. 2001); Aragon v. Colvin, 15 2016 WL 1257785, at *4 (C.D. Cal. Mar. 30, 2016) (“VE testimony, by itself, 16 constitutes substantial evidence when in response to a complete 17 hypothetical.”); Migliore v. Colvin, 2013 WL 3935879, at *2 (C.D. Cal. July 18 29, 2013) (VE's testimony was substantial evidence supporting step-five 19 determination because VE “identif[ied] a specific job or jobs in the national 20 economy having requirements that the claimant’s physical and mental abilities 21 and vocational qualifications would satisfy” (quoting Osenbrock)). Moreover, 22 although the VE provided some information about how he reached the job 23 24 6 The single variation between the hypothetical and the RFC is the RFC finds 25 Plaintiff “limited to no more than occasional interaction with supervisors, coworkers, or the general public.” AR 23 (emphasis added). The mention of occasional 26 interaction with the general public is superfluous considering the RFC already limited 27 Plaintiff to “no public contact,” a limitation that was also posed in the hypothetical. Compare AR 23 with 65-66. 28 1 numbers (AR 69-70), he was not required to explain his methodology. See 2 Ford, 950 F.3d at 1158-59; Aragon, 2016 WL 1257785 at *4; Zalesny v. 3 Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 2014 WL 4418215, at *3 (E.D. Cal. Sept. 5, 2014). 4 Plaintiff’s challenge that the VE could not “guarantee” the representative 5 occupations would not require more than occasional contact with supervisors, 6 and the ALJ’s attendant ruling related to that testimony, seeks precision 7 beyond the relevant standard of review. Substantial evidence is “more than a 8 mere scintilla” and means only “such relevant evidence as a reasonable mind 9 might accept as adequate to support a conclusion.” Biestek v. Berryhill, 139 S. 10 Ct. 1148, 1154 (2019) (citation omitted); Lingenfelter, 504 F.3d at 1035. The 11 VE’s testimony and reliance on the DOT meets that very low bar. See Ford, 12 950 F.3d at 1159 (VE’s testimony need only clear the “low substantial evidence 13 bar”); Olsen v. Astrue, 2009 WL 982580, at *1 (D. Or. Apr. 10, 2009) (VE 14 need not testify with certainty to support step-five determination). 15 Plaintiff does not contend that the VE’s testimony is in “obvious or 16 apparent” conflict with the DOT or contradicts the Medical-Vocational 17 Guidelines. See, e.g., Ford, 950 F.3d at 1160; Buck, 869 F.3d at 1051-52; 18 Wagner v. Berryhill, 2018 WL 3956485, at *5 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 14, 2018) (“The 19 DOT’s silence does not create a conflict.”). Instead, she relies on various other 20 sources. Regarding County Business Patterns, again, although not required 21 divulge his underlying methodology, the VE provided an explanation as to 22 why he did not rely on that resource. AR 69-70. Plaintiff has failed to show 23 that this was insufficient, or that the VE was otherwise required to add up each 24 county’s data to support his national numbers. See, e.g., Beltran, 700 F.3d at 25 389 (explaining that the “‘significant number of jobs’ can be either regional 26 jobs (the region where a claimant resides) or in several regions of the country 27 (national jobs)” (emphasis in original)); Dawn H. v. Saul, 2020 WL 1939345, 28 at *5 (D. Or. Apr. 22, 2020) (if the court finds either the national or regional 1 numbers significant, then it must uphold the ALJ’s decision). 2 After the hearing, Plaintiff cited additional sources in letters to the ALJ 3 and the Appeals Council, including Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Job 4 Browser Pro, O*Net, OOH, and an email from SkillTRAN.7 AR 365-82, 384- 5 88. However, she has not shown that any of these sources are binding on this 6 Court or the Agency. See, e.g., Wendei L. P., 2020 WL 433365 at *1 (vacating 7 order reversing ALJ’s decision because court erroneously relied on SkillTRAN 8 job listing, which included more limitations than the DOT); Wagner, 2018 9 WL 3956485 at *6 (ALJ not obligated to address VE’s deviation from other 10 sources, such as O*NET or OOH). Aragon, 2016 WL 1257785 at *3 (noting 11 that private Job Browser Pro software program is not referenced in the list of 12 published sources recognized as authoritative by Social Security regulations); 13 Schoux v. Colvin, 2016 WL 3194988, at *3 (N.D. Cal. June 9, 2016) (rejecting 14 argument that the Agency is bound by the CBP and OOH; “the regulations 15 simply identify the C[BP] and OOH as examples of materials the 16 Commissioner may consider, . . . [they] nowhere indicate that either of these 17 sources are definitive or controlling”). 18 Finally, Plaintiff argues that the ALJ did not address aspects of her post- 19 hearing submissions, but she has failed to show that the ALJ was required to 20 do more to resolve the step-five issue and to meet the substantial evidence 21 standard. See, e.g., Biestek, 139 S. Ct. at 1154; Jaquez v. Berryhill, 2019 WL 22 2868926, at *10 (S.D. Cal. July 2, 2019) (“District courts . . . have concluded 23 that the ALJ has no obligation to reconcile conflicts between VE testimony 24 and . . . non-DOT sources [such as CBP, OOH, or O*NET].”); Beamesderfer 25
26 7 Wendei L. P. v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec., 2020 WL 433365, at *1 (W.D. Wash. Jan. 27, 27 2020) (describing SkillTran as a manual authored by a private company that purports to rely on the DOT). 28 1 || v. Berryhill, 2018 WL 2315956, at *6 (C.D. Cal. May 18, 2018) (“the 2 || guidelines do not require the ALJ to resolve conflicts between VE testimony 3 other vocational publications or information” and “|t]here is simply no 4 ||requirement that an ALJ must address each [post-hearing memorandum] 5 || objection [to a VE’s testimony] in a discrete manner.”). 6 At best, Plaintiff presents an alternate interpretation of the numbers of 7 ||jobs available for the identified occupations, which is insufficient to undermine 8 ||the VE’s testimony. See Shaibi v. Berryhill, 883 F.3d 1102, 1108 (9th Cir. 9 ||2017) (“Where evidence is susceptible to more than one rational interpretation, 10 is the ALJ's conclusion that must be upheld.” (internal quotation marks and 11 || citation omitted)); Molina, 674 F.3d at 1111; see also, e.g., Aragon, 2016 WL 12 || 1257785 at *5 (collecting cases uniformly rejecting lay interpretation and 13 analysis of Job Browser Pro job numbers). Reversal 1s not warranted. 14 IV. 15 ORDER 16 IT THEREFORE IS ORDERED that Judgment be entered affirming 17 ||the decision of the Commissioner and dismissing this action with prejudice. 18 19 || Dated: May 08, 2020 20 / i i 3 Yo 21 ND. EARLY 22 nited States Magistrate Judge 23 24 25 26 27 28 13