People v. Thodos

2015 IL App (2d) 140995, 49 N.E.3d 62
Appellate Court of Illinois·Decided September 23, 2015·No. 2-14-0995·Unpublished

Opinion

No. 2-14-0995

Opinion filed September 23, 2015

IN THE

APPELLATE COURT OF ILLINOIS

SECOND DISTRICT

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE ) Appeal from the Circuit Court OF ILLINOIS, ) of De Kalb County.

)

Plaintiff-Appellant, )

)

v. ) No. 13-CF-385 )

CHRISTOPHER THODOS, ) Honorable ) Robbin J. Stuckert,

Defendant-Appellee. ) Judge, Presiding.

JUSTICE HUDSON delivered the judgment of the court, with opinion.

Justices McLaren and Jorgensen concurred in the judgment and opinion.

OPINION

¶1 I. INTRODUCTION

¶2 Defendant, Christopher Thodos, was charged with violating an order of protection when he allegedly went to the home of his ex-wife and slashed the tires on a car sitting in the home’s driveway (720 ILCS 5/12-3.4(a) (West 2012)). At defendant’s bench trial, Robert Sutter invoked the clergy-penitent privilege (735 ILCS 5/8-803 (West 2012)), claiming that, as defendant’s “spiritual advisor,” he could not be forced to testify about an incriminating admission defendant made to him. Defendant joined in invoking that privilege. The trial court found that the privilege applied, and the State filed a certificate of impairment and timely appeals. See Ill. S. Ct. R. 604(a)(1) (eff. Feb. 6, 2013). For the reasons that follow, we affirm.

¶3 II. BACKGROUND

¶4 The facts relevant to the issues raised are as follows. During the State’s case-in-chief, Sutter was called to testify. Before he was asked any substantive questions, Sutter inquired of the court whether, because he was defendant’s “spiritual adviser,” he would have to testify. After the parties presented their positions on that issue, the court allowed the parties to present evidence on whether the clergy-penitent privilege applied. In that regard, Sutter testified that he was neither a pastor at the First Baptist Church of Sycamore, which is where he met defendant, nor a paid member of any clergy. 1 However, in response to questioning about whether he had any formal training in spiritual counseling, Sutter indicated that he had spoken with his pastors and been discipled by numerous religious people throughout his Christian life.

¶5 Concerning his relationship with defendant, Sutter, who was a leader of a small Bible-study group at the church, stated that, in 2013, when defendant allegedly violated the order of protection, he was discipling defendant. Although Sutter and defendant could be considered “ ‘accountability partner[s],’ ” Sutter stated that he was “not so much just an accountability partner [as he] was *** a discipler to [defendant].” At first, Sutter began discipling defendant at defendant’s wife’s urging, 2 and he paid for defendant to attend a spiritual training seminar and a Christian-based rehabilitation and recovery camp. Defendant asked Sutter to “ ‘please look out for [him]’ ” and “ ‘keep [him] accountable,’ ” as “ ‘[defendant] need[ed Sutter].’ ” As the relationship continued, defendant confessed a number of things to Sutter, while Sutter

1 Sutter testified that, although he attended the First Baptist Church of Sycamore in 2013,

he now attended Bethel Assembly of God.

2 The record does not disclose whether defendant’s “wife” was a current wife or his

ex-wife.

remembered confessing only one thing to defendant. After making his confessions, which were intended to be confidential, defendant would pray with Sutter and ask for forgiveness and strength, and Sutter would then, as part of this process, rebuke defendant. Sutter indicated that, as a small-group leader, he had the same type of relationship with other people, but he stated that he was not as invested in these other relationships. When defendant made the pertinent admission to Sutter, defendant was at the Christian-based rehabilitation and recovery camp and Sutter was at home.

¶6 Sutter testified that he often would talk to and pray with the pastor, assistant pastor, and other members of the small group about the matters that defendant and Sutter discussed. One of the small-group members to whom Sutter spoke was police officer Daniel Hoffman. When Sutter spoke to Hoffman about defendant’s admission pertinent here, which Sutter testified he shared with Hoffman at Sutter’s son’s baseball game, Hoffman did not “indicate that he was speaking to [Sutter] in [Hoffman’s] professional capacity.” That is, “[Hoffman] wasn’t talking to [Sutter] about criminal charges,” and Hoffman never indicated to Sutter that Sutter could be called to testify against defendant. Indeed, “[Sutter] was flabbergasted when [he] found out that that was going to be the outcome.” Although Hoffman, who testified that he spoke to Sutter on the phone about defendant’s admission, stated that he did not specifically tell Sutter that he was talking to him as a police officer, he did “advis[e] [Sutter] obviously [that he] was involved in the case and that because of [their] conversation that it was going to go on record and [he] advised [Sutter] that he probably would be called to testify in court if need be.” In response, according to Hoffman, Sutter merely indicated that “he just wishe[d] that [defendant] would just plead guilty and accept what he had done.”

¶7 Sutter testified that he talked to about eight people about the pertinent admission. These people included Sutter’s wife, defendant’s counselor at the rehabilitation and recovery camp, a man who attended the spiritual training seminar with defendant, the pastor, the assistant pastor, and other members of the small group. As was defendant’s intent when he made the admission to Sutter, Sutter’s intent in sharing it was that it would remain confidential and result in defendant’s betterment, as Sutter would gain advice on how to proceed in discipling defendant.

¶8 When asked more about his position with the church, Sutter testified that he was “designated by the authority in the church” to be a small-group leader. That is, regardless of whether Sutter or the church initiated interest in his becoming a leader, he was “accepted” by the “[church] elders.” The church elders are the “people that are responsible for the spiritual decisions of the church.” They are “the governing body, even over the pastor,” and, as such, they determine things like “how much money [the church] spend[s and] who [are the] leaders in the church.” Sutter, who had been in “eldership training,” explained that he and his wife started a small group and that they sought members at a pig roast the church hosted. At the pig roast, church members could sign up for whatever group session of Sutter’s they wanted to attend. Sutter estimated that the church had eight small groups with seven to eight people in each group, and he said that the groups would meet at the church or at members’ homes. Sutter also stated that he believed that there were written rules governing small-group leaders and accountability partners. Sutter testified that, in addition to leading the small group, he was “authorized” by the elders to baptize defendant.

¶9 The court found that, because the clergy-penitent privilege applied, Sutter did not have to testify about the pertinent admission. In reaching that conclusion, the court found that Sutter was approved by the church elders, who comprised the governing body responsible for making

spiritual decisions, to lead a small group and baptize defendant. Defendant and Sutter entered into a relationship “[that] was referred to as a disciple to the defendant, and the relationship was supervised by the pastor.” Moreover, “conversations between [Sutter] and the defendant were intended to be of a confidential nature” and “were discussed with the pastor, counselors [at the rehabilitation and recovery camp,] and other church members for the purposes of prayer.”

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