People v. Sanin

2025 NY Slip Op 25189
CourtNew York County Court, Ulster County
DecidedAugust 8, 2025
DocketInd. No. 70114-25
StatusPublished

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People v. Sanin, 2025 NY Slip Op 25189 (N.Y. Super. Ct. 2025).

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People v Sanin (2025 NY Slip Op 25189) [*1]

People v Sanin
2025 NY Slip Op 25189
Decided on August 8, 2025
County Court, Ulster County
Farrell, J.
Published by New York State Law Reporting Bureau pursuant to Judiciary Law § 431.
This opinion is uncorrected and subject to revision before publication in the printed Official Reports.


Decided on August 8, 2025
County Court, Ulster County


The People of the State of New York

against

Jamie Sanin and CHARLIE LIU GUILLOTIN, Defendants.




Ind. No. 70114-25

The People of the State of New York: Ulster County District Attorney's Office

Defendants: Michael Sussman, Esq.
James R. Farrell, J.

This matter comes before the Court on defendants' motion to dismiss the indictment on the grounds that (1) the indictment is an infringement on their First Amendment Rights to free speech, and for a declaration that Penal Law §145.60 is constitutionally vague and overly broad; and (2) the first count of the indictment charging defendants with Criminal Mischief in the Second Degree (Penal Law §145.10) is duplicative of count two, which charges defendants with Making Graffiti (Penal Law §145.60). Alternatively, defendants request authority to present a necessity defense to the jury. The People appear and oppose the relief requested.

Background and Procedural History

Defendants, Jamie Sanin and Charlie Liu Guillotin, former SUNY New Paltz students, were indicted on charges of Criminal Mischief in the Second Degree (Penal Law §145.10]), Making Graffiti (Penal Law §145.65) and Possession of Graffiti Instruments (Penal Law §145.65) stemming from allegations that on October 6, 2024, they spray painted graffiti at various locations on SUNY New Paltz Campus with phrases such as "Your Tuition Funds Genocide" and "Free Gaza" and posted two posters containing similar statements. Two suspects wearing black coats with black hoods and black surgical masks were observed on surveillance video. A patrol officer observed two individuals matching the suspects' descriptions and ordered them to stop walking. The patrol officer smelled the strong odor of spray paint on the suspects, one suspect had spray paint on their clothing, and other suspect was carrying a shopping bag containing several cans of spray paint. The suspects, identified as defendants herein, were arrested and issued appearance tickets. Defendants were also issued "persona non grata" letters and advised not to return to campus lest they be subject to arrest for criminal trespass. [*2]Defendants now move to dismiss the indictment.

Instant Motion

Defendants first assert a First Amendment constitutional challenge to Penal Law §145.60, Making Graffiti; however, they seem to conflate the various applicable standards of review when one challenges a statute on First Amendment grounds as overly board, vague, content neutral or "as-applied." Defendants argue that the statute is overboard and vague because it presumes intent and prohibits all forms of expressive speech. Defendants then cite to the standards of review applied in the context of content neutral statutes, as well as the standard of review for First Amendment challenges to a statute "as applied" to defendants, who were engaged in political speech in an alleged public forum. Defendants then argue that the statute implicates the "void for vagueness" doctrine because the determination of an individual's "intent to damage such property" is left "to the unguided judgment of police authorities," asserting a due process void for vagueness argument. The Court will address each of defendants' arguments in turn.

As an initial matter, "legislative enactments carry a strong presumption of constitutionality" (People v Stuart, 100 NY2d 412, 422 [2003]). The First Amendment embodies the fundamental principle that governments have "no power to restrict expression because of its message, its ideas, its subject matter, or its content" (People v Marquan M., 24 NY3d 1, 8 [2014], quoting United States v Stevens, 559 US 460, 468 [2010]). However, this proscription is not an absolute one (People v Shack, 86 NY2d 529, 535 [1995]). The government may sometimes curtail speech when necessary to advance a significant and legitimate government interest (Clark v Community for Creative Non-Violence, 468 US 288, 293 [1984]).

Overly Board and Void for Vagueness

"A regulation of speech is overbroad if constitutionally-protected expression may be 'chilled' by the provision because it facially 'prohibits a real and substantial amount of' expression guarded by the First Amendment" (Sullivan v New York State Joint Commn. on Pub. Ethics, 207 AD3d 117, 127 [3d Dept 2022], quoting People v Marquan M., supra) This type of facial challenge requires a court to assess the wording of the statute—"without reference to the defendant's conduct" (People v Stuart, 100 NY2d at 42) —to decide whether "a substantial number of its applications are unconstitutional, judged in relation to the statute's plainly legitimate sweep" (United States v Stevens, 559 US at 473). "The test for determining overbreadth is whether the law on its face prohibits a real and substantial amount of constitutionally protected conduct. The mere fact that one can conceive of some impermissible applications of a statute is not sufficient to render it susceptible to an overbreadth challenge" (People v Barton, 8 NY3d 70, 75-76 [2006] [quotation marks and citation omitted]). A law that is overbroad cannot be validly applied against any individual (see People v Stuart, 100 NY2d at 421).

In contrast, "the void-for-vagueness doctrine protects against the ills of a law that fails to provide a person of ordinary intelligence fair notice of what is prohibited, or is so standardless that it authorizes or encourages seriously discriminatory enforcement" (Sullivan, 207 AD3d at 129). "[A]n as-applied challenge calls on the court to consider whether a statute can be constitutionally applied to the defendant under the facts of the case" (People v Stuart, 100 at 421). "[A] statute which either forbids or requires the doing of an act in terms so vague that [persons] of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application violates the first essential of due process of law" (id. at 419 [quotations and citation [*3]omitted]; accord People v Piznarksi, 113 AD3d 116, 174 [3d Dept 2013]). "A two-part test is used to determine whether a statute is unconstitutionally vague; first, 'the court must determine whether the statute in question is sufficiently definite to give a person of ordinary intelligence fair notice that his [or her] contemplated conduct is forbidden by the statute' and, '[s]econd, the court must determine whether the enactment provides officials with clear standards for enforcement'" (Piznarski, 113 AD3d at 174, quoting People v Stuart, 100 NY2d at 420).

A First Amendment analysis begins with an examination of the text of the challenged legislation since "it is impossible to determine whether a statute reaches too far without first knowing what the statute covers" (United States v Williams, 553 US 285, 293 [2008], accord Bd. Of Trustees v Vil. Of Groton v Pirro, 152 AD3d 149, 157 [3d Dept 2017]).

Penal Law §145.60, "Making Graffiti," states:

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