Moody, J.
On March. 2, 1953, the defendant Harold Hummel was convicted by jury verdict of the first-degree murders
of Joseph Vinokurow and Vidos Vinokurow. Certain oral admissions were introduced at trial, as well as a written confession which was given to the Oakland county prosecutor.
The defendant filed an application for leave to appeal, and this Court granted his motion and remanded the case to the Oakland county circuit court for a
Walker
hearing
concerning the voluntariness of the confessions. On July 5, 1967, the judge who conducted the hearing filed an opinion in which he concluded that the admissions and confessions were voluntarily made and were properly admitted into evidence during the defendant’s trial.
On this appeal the problem presented is what standard of review will be used when defendant contests the outcome of a
Walker
hearing. In
People
v.
Walker
(1967), 6 Mich App 600, 602, this Court stated it would only reverse a finding that the confession was voluntary, if the trial court’s finding was “clearly erroneous”. The reason was based on an interpretation of OCR. 1963, 785.1 and OCR 1963, 517.1.
In two later cases,
People
v.
Pallister
(1968), 14 Mich App 139, 141, and
People
v.
Summers
(1968), 15 Mich App 346, 348, the Court stated it must “ ‘examine the entire record and make an independent determination of the ultimate issue of voluntariness’ ”. While this may appear to differ from the “clearly erroneous” test, in fact they are the same. The relation between the two verbal formulations is made quite clear in 2 Honigman
&
Hawkins, Michigan Court Rules Annotated, (2d ed), Rule 517, where the authors note at p 596:
“Formerly in chancery cases, although it was commonly said that issues of fact were tried
de novo
on appeal or that the Supreme Court must weigh the evidence and reach an independent conclusion on review of the facts, this did not mean that the findings of the trial judge were entitled to no consideration. Notwithstanding the right and duty of the Supreme Court to make its independent evaluation of the evidence, it would not set aside the findings of the trial judge unless it was convinced that a clear showing of error had been made. Running through the opinions are phrases such as ‘clear error’, ‘manifest error’, ‘palpably erroneous’. See MLP, Appeal, § 382 and Michigan decisions
infra.
Especially when there was a sharp conflict in the evidence, the reviewing court would not disturb the trial court’s determination of fact questions, unless it was clear that a wrong conclusion had been reached. The Supreme Court was most reluctant to disturb the findings of a trial judge based on credibility, since the trial judge, as the trier of facts, had the advantage of observing the witness.
“Thus it is clear that Rule 517 accurately restates former practice in the review of chancery cases in Michigan, although the language itself is borrowed from Federal Rule 52. The most frequently quoted explanation of the -‘clearly erroneous’ standard in Federal Rule 52(a) is contained in
United States
v.
United States Gypsum Co.
(1948), 333 US 364, 395 (68 S Ct 525, 542, 92 L Ed 746),
reh. den.
333 US 869 (68 S Ct 788, 92 L Ed 1147):
“ ‘Since judicial review of findings of trial courts does not have the statutory or constitutional limitations of findings by administrative agencies or by a jury, this Court may reverse findings of fact by a trial court where “clearly erroneous”. The practice in equity prior to the present rules of civil procedure was that the findings of the trial court, when dependent upon oral testimony where the candor and credibility of the witnesses would best be judged, had
great weight with the appellate court. The findings were never conclusive, however. A finding is “clearly erroneous” when although there is evidence to support it, the reviewing court on the entire evidence is left with the definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been committed.’ ” (See
People
v.
Summers
at p 348.)
Thus, this Court will give deference to trial courts’ findings, especially where the demeanor of the witnesses is important, as where credibility is a major factor. However, while the trial court’s findings will guide us, we are not bound by them.
It is apparent that the Court in
Pallister
and
Summers
was applying the “clearly erroneous” standard as set forth above. In
Pallister
the Court wrote, beginning at p 141: “We are left with the ‘definite and firm conviction’ the trial judge erred * * * and, accordingly, have concluded that the trial judge’s finding of voluntariness was clearly erroneous.” And in
Summers
at p 356 it was concluded : “we are convinced that the confession * * * was involuntary”.
Defendant appeals, claiming the trial court erred in finding upon conclusion of the evidentiary hearing that his statements and confessions were freely and voluntarily made. This Court takes the view, however, that the dispositive issue is whether the judge who presided over the
Walker
hearing used the proper standard in judging defendant’s credibility.
The transcript shows that the judge asked Hummel whether he was guilty of the murders. Hummel re
fused to answer and the trial judge made the following statement:
“The Court:
Let me say this to you, Mr. Hummel, I am aware of the fact that your refusal to answer this question will he contempt of court, and I am also aware of the fact that there is no punishment which I could administer to one in your position at the present time to enforce your compliance with the court order, or to aid you in purging yourself of contempt. So I will not repeat the question further unless you choose to answer it voluntarily as I have directed you. But I will say this to you and I think you should know it, if you choose not to follow the instructions of the court, if you choose not to answer the question after I have told you that your action would he contemptuous, then I will have to consider this as going to the credibility of your entire testimony today, for when a witness is unwilling to testify and flouts the direction of the court, this impenges [sic] upon the credibility of that witness in my judgment.”
It is our view that the sole function of a
Walker
hearing is to determine the voluntariness of a confession, and it is improper to weigh defendant’s credibility in light of his innocence or guilt. This follows from the language of
People
v.
Walker
(On Rehearing, 1965), 374 Mich 331, 338, which construed
Jackson
v.
Denno
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Moody, J.
On March. 2, 1953, the defendant Harold Hummel was convicted by jury verdict of the first-degree murders
of Joseph Vinokurow and Vidos Vinokurow. Certain oral admissions were introduced at trial, as well as a written confession which was given to the Oakland county prosecutor.
The defendant filed an application for leave to appeal, and this Court granted his motion and remanded the case to the Oakland county circuit court for a
Walker
hearing
concerning the voluntariness of the confessions. On July 5, 1967, the judge who conducted the hearing filed an opinion in which he concluded that the admissions and confessions were voluntarily made and were properly admitted into evidence during the defendant’s trial.
On this appeal the problem presented is what standard of review will be used when defendant contests the outcome of a
Walker
hearing. In
People
v.
Walker
(1967), 6 Mich App 600, 602, this Court stated it would only reverse a finding that the confession was voluntary, if the trial court’s finding was “clearly erroneous”. The reason was based on an interpretation of OCR. 1963, 785.1 and OCR 1963, 517.1.
In two later cases,
People
v.
Pallister
(1968), 14 Mich App 139, 141, and
People
v.
Summers
(1968), 15 Mich App 346, 348, the Court stated it must “ ‘examine the entire record and make an independent determination of the ultimate issue of voluntariness’ ”. While this may appear to differ from the “clearly erroneous” test, in fact they are the same. The relation between the two verbal formulations is made quite clear in 2 Honigman
&
Hawkins, Michigan Court Rules Annotated, (2d ed), Rule 517, where the authors note at p 596:
“Formerly in chancery cases, although it was commonly said that issues of fact were tried
de novo
on appeal or that the Supreme Court must weigh the evidence and reach an independent conclusion on review of the facts, this did not mean that the findings of the trial judge were entitled to no consideration. Notwithstanding the right and duty of the Supreme Court to make its independent evaluation of the evidence, it would not set aside the findings of the trial judge unless it was convinced that a clear showing of error had been made. Running through the opinions are phrases such as ‘clear error’, ‘manifest error’, ‘palpably erroneous’. See MLP, Appeal, § 382 and Michigan decisions
infra.
Especially when there was a sharp conflict in the evidence, the reviewing court would not disturb the trial court’s determination of fact questions, unless it was clear that a wrong conclusion had been reached. The Supreme Court was most reluctant to disturb the findings of a trial judge based on credibility, since the trial judge, as the trier of facts, had the advantage of observing the witness.
“Thus it is clear that Rule 517 accurately restates former practice in the review of chancery cases in Michigan, although the language itself is borrowed from Federal Rule 52. The most frequently quoted explanation of the -‘clearly erroneous’ standard in Federal Rule 52(a) is contained in
United States
v.
United States Gypsum Co.
(1948), 333 US 364, 395 (68 S Ct 525, 542, 92 L Ed 746),
reh. den.
333 US 869 (68 S Ct 788, 92 L Ed 1147):
“ ‘Since judicial review of findings of trial courts does not have the statutory or constitutional limitations of findings by administrative agencies or by a jury, this Court may reverse findings of fact by a trial court where “clearly erroneous”. The practice in equity prior to the present rules of civil procedure was that the findings of the trial court, when dependent upon oral testimony where the candor and credibility of the witnesses would best be judged, had
great weight with the appellate court. The findings were never conclusive, however. A finding is “clearly erroneous” when although there is evidence to support it, the reviewing court on the entire evidence is left with the definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been committed.’ ” (See
People
v.
Summers
at p 348.)
Thus, this Court will give deference to trial courts’ findings, especially where the demeanor of the witnesses is important, as where credibility is a major factor. However, while the trial court’s findings will guide us, we are not bound by them.
It is apparent that the Court in
Pallister
and
Summers
was applying the “clearly erroneous” standard as set forth above. In
Pallister
the Court wrote, beginning at p 141: “We are left with the ‘definite and firm conviction’ the trial judge erred * * * and, accordingly, have concluded that the trial judge’s finding of voluntariness was clearly erroneous.” And in
Summers
at p 356 it was concluded : “we are convinced that the confession * * * was involuntary”.
Defendant appeals, claiming the trial court erred in finding upon conclusion of the evidentiary hearing that his statements and confessions were freely and voluntarily made. This Court takes the view, however, that the dispositive issue is whether the judge who presided over the
Walker
hearing used the proper standard in judging defendant’s credibility.
The transcript shows that the judge asked Hummel whether he was guilty of the murders. Hummel re
fused to answer and the trial judge made the following statement:
“The Court:
Let me say this to you, Mr. Hummel, I am aware of the fact that your refusal to answer this question will he contempt of court, and I am also aware of the fact that there is no punishment which I could administer to one in your position at the present time to enforce your compliance with the court order, or to aid you in purging yourself of contempt. So I will not repeat the question further unless you choose to answer it voluntarily as I have directed you. But I will say this to you and I think you should know it, if you choose not to follow the instructions of the court, if you choose not to answer the question after I have told you that your action would he contemptuous, then I will have to consider this as going to the credibility of your entire testimony today, for when a witness is unwilling to testify and flouts the direction of the court, this impenges [sic] upon the credibility of that witness in my judgment.”
It is our view that the sole function of a
Walker
hearing is to determine the voluntariness of a confession, and it is improper to weigh defendant’s credibility in light of his innocence or guilt. This follows from the language of
People
v.
Walker
(On Rehearing, 1965), 374 Mich 331, 338, which construed
Jackson
v.
Denno
(1964), 378 US 368 (84 S Ct 1774, 12 L Ed 2d 908), as follows:
“We therefore release our jursdiction of the cause and direct the recorder’s court to assume jurisdiction to make a determination upon a separate record upon the issue of the voluntariness of the confession only. At this hearing, we hold the defendant may take the stand and testify for the limited purpose of making of record his version of the facts and circumstances under which the confession was obtained. We hold further that by so doing defendant does
not waive his right to decline to take the stand on trial in chief, if retrial is ordered. Neither does he waive any of the other rights stemming from his choice not to testify. This we believe comports with the apparent intention of
Jackson, supra,
to require the issue of the voluntariness of a confession to be determined completely apart from and independent of the consideration of that issue by the jury which is considering guilt or innocence under established procedures.”
It was error for the trial judge to allow the issue of guilt to enter into the evidentiary hearing on the issue of voluntariness of the defendant’s statements and confessions. In view of the fact that credibility of the defendant is of great importance at such a hearing and an improper standard was employed in judging defendant’s credibility, we hereby remand the cause to the trial court for a new evidentiary hearing on the issues as previously ordered.
It might be argued that in the course of our independent determination we can ignore the errors made below, thus making a new
Walicer
hearing unnecessary. However, since we are guided by the findings of the trial court, we should have an opinion by it before us which is based on a hearing free of substantial error.
Under the circumstances of this case we deem it advisable that some other judge of this multi-judge circuit conduct the rehearing. It is ordered that the presiding judge of the circuit designate the judge for the rehearing.
Remanded for proceedings consistent with this opinion. "We retain no further jurisdiction in this cause.
All concurred.