Mallett, J.
This Court consolidated and granted leave to appeal in these two cases to clarify the judicial responsibilities that must be fulfilled before a criminal defendant may waive his right to counsel and be permitted to represent himself.
Trial courts must substantially comply with the waiver of counsel procedures set forth in People v Anderson, 398 Mich 361; 247 NW2d 857 (1976), and MCR 6.005(D) before granting a defendant’s request to proceed in propria persona. Substantial compliance requires the court to discuss with the defendant the waiver of counsel requirements set forth in both Anderson and the court rule, and to find that the defendant fully understands, recognizes, and agrees to abide by these procedures.
We hold that the trial courts in both People v Adkins and People v Suggs substantially complied with the waiver of counsel procedures provided by this Court. The records support the trial courts’ findings that both defendants effectively waived their right to counsel. Therefore, the judicial grants of the defendants’ requests to proceed in propria persona were proper. We reverse the decisions of the Court of Appeals granting the defendants new trials.
[707]*707FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
I
PEOPLE v ADKINS
In a May 1991 jury trial before Detroit Recorder’s Court Judge Michael J. Callahan, defendant Kenneth Ray Adkins was convicted of five counts of third-degree criminal sexual conduct, MCL 750.520d; MSA 28.788(4), and one count of unarmed robbery, MCL 750.530; MSA 28.798.
On April 29, 1991, two days before the scheduled trial, retained counsel Marcus Ellis told the court that Mr. Adkins did not want him to continue to represent him.1 The prosecutor requested a hearing regarding the reasons for Mr. Adkins’ dissatisfaction.
Mr. Adkins testified that he did not like what Mr. Ellis had done about the case and that Mr. Ellis was not “on [his] side.” He said that he had been dissatisfied since the preliminary examination and had explained his dissatisfaction to his family, who already had spent “several hundred dollars” on the case. Despite his alleged dissatisfaction, Mr. Adkins had not apprised the court of his feelings about Mr. Ellis until that morning. When pressed by the court, he was unable to refer to any specific problems with Mr. Ellis. Rather, he said that he did not like the way he saw Mr. Ellis in court and did not value his judgment. Mr. Adkins said to the court: “I just prefer to either[,] I ask questions, appoint me a lawyer, or I will do this on, attempt this on my own.”
[708]*708Mr. Ellis believed that the breakdown in the attorney-client relationship was apparent. However, the court believed that Mr. Adkins was being dilatory. Mr. Ellis asked the court to appoint another attorney, even though he would remain in the courtroom, so that Mr. Adkins would have “the benefit of talking to a lawyer that he [could] trust.” Mr. Ellis did not move to withdraw from the case.
Mr. Adkins told the court: “If you will just have an attorney probably come see me for twenty minutes, until today or tomorrow, I will be ready with an attorney to represent myself with another attorney or ask him to take in whenever he can do anything. I would rather not take any advice from Mr. Ellis.” The court declined Mr. Adkins’ request for an appointed attorney and said that he could represent himself or have Mr. Ellis represent him. The court ordered Mr. Ellis to remain in the courtroom during the trial, which was to begin on May 1, 1991, either as counsel for Mr. Adkins or as standby counsel if Mr. Adkins chose to proceed in propria persona.
On the morning of May 1, 1991, before jury voir dire, Mr. Adkins decided to represent himself. At this point, the judge proceeded to comply with the initial waiver of counsel procedures.
The Court: Mr. Adkins, we were in court two days ago and you indicated to me that you wished to discharge Mr. Ellis as your attorney, is that correct?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: And that you wished to represent yourself?
Defendant Adkins: Yes, I do.
The Court: You indicated also that you wanted me to appoint an attorney for you and that you would rely on the services of an appointed attorney, is that correct?
[709]*709Defendant Adkins: Yes, I did say that, but I think I will go on my own.
The Court: So it is your desire to represent yourself?
Defendant Adkins: Yes, it is.
The Court: Sir, how old are you?
Defendant Adkins: Twenty-four.
The Court: Do you read and write the English language?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: How far did you go in school?
Defendant Adkins: 10th Grade.
The Court: Do you have any other formal education?
Defendant Adkins: No.
The Court: Sir, do you know, or has your IQ ever been tested? Do you know what that is?
Defendant Adkins: No, I don’t.
The Court: Before you got into this difficulty with the law, did you have a job?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: What were you doing?
Defendant Adkins: Partime [sic] making car parts for a company.
The Court: How long had you held that job, Mr. Adkins?
Defendant Adkins: I only worked there a short period of time.
The Court: Before that what did you do?
Defendant Adkins: I did odd jobs.
The Court: Now, sir, is it my understanding that you are voluntarily deciding to represent yourself?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: And you feel that you know what you are doing?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: Okay. You understand that even if you dislike Mr. Ellis, or can’t stand him, or whatever your feelings are, he is here, that he is seated no more than six feet away from you and that you can ask him any question that you want during the course of this trial, do you understand that?
[710]*710Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: Even if you choose to ask him nothing, you understand he is here and he is available to advise you?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: You understand, sir, that there is always a hazard in representing yourself, and that is you are not schooled in the Rules of Evidence and the like, but you still must abide by my rulings, do you understand that?
Defendant Adkins: Yes, I do.
The Court: You understand there is what we call courtroom decorum where people don’t interrupt one another unless there is an objection to be made, and you can’t talk over someone else, do you understand that?
Defendant Adkins: Yes, I do.
The Court: You understand if you wish to make an objection, you just simply say objection and everything stops until we hear from you, do you understand that?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: You understand during the course of the whole trial, however long it takes, except for making objections, you can’t interrupt?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: And that if you speak out of turn, there are ways by which you can be disciplined for that?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: And, sir, it is your intention to proceed with this, not in any sense to try to embarrass anyone or yourself, but just to proceed to have the Jury determine by way of verdict what happened?
Defendant Adkins: Say that again for me, please.
The Court: Sure. You are going to go through this as if it were from beginning to end, you are going to be a gentleman about this and let the Jury decide what happened out there?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: Mr. Cunningham, do you have any questions?
Mr. Cunningham: Yes. Could the Court please inquire whether this is the first contact the defendant ever had with the criminal justice system, or, if in fact, he has had prior [711]*711contact with the police and the Court, perhaps gained some experience with the prior contact?
The Court: That is unfair.
Defendant Adkins: This is the second time I have had trial, but the first one was a juvenile, the Judge, they first made a felony out of it. This is the first jury trial I have seen.121
The Court: Who in this case had hired Mr. Ellis to represent you?
Defendant Adkins: My family and I.
The Court: Now anytime since October 17th through March 28, 1991, did you ever tell any Judge that you were dissatisfied with the services of your attorney?131
Defendant Adkins: No, I didn’t. If I did, I surely would like to see you prove it to me. That’s right. At that time you said, you asked me, I don’t recall your ever asking me.
The Court: I am asking a different question now. I am asking you, did you ever?
[712]*712Defendant Adkins: No, I didn’t. I told him that I had problems right then. I was hoping he would change.
After questioning Mr. Adkins about his decision to proceed in propria persona, the judge analyzed the defendant’s response under Anderson.
The Court: Okay. Well, we are proceeding to trial today. I rely on People versus Anderson, 398 MichAp [sic] 401 from the Michigan Supreme Court. The indication is that [a] trial judge can in some circumstances allow a person to proceed on their own. Mr. Adkins has indicated to me unequivocally that he wishes to represent himself. An earlier request he had made to me asking for alternative indigent counsel be appointed for him. He is [sic] withdrawn that. He knows what he is asking. He is doing it voluntarily and intentionally, I so find. And he understands the hazards, the disadvantages of representing himself. He agreed in open court that he will be gentlemanly in conduct in his defense, that he will not burden or inconvenience this Court with the administration of the Court business. I find that he could read and write the English language and that he is going to have his desire granted and that is that he will be permitted to represent himself.
The court concluded by asking the defendant if he was prepared to hire a new lawyer. Mr. Adkins said he was not. The judge then granted the defendant’s motion to proceed in propria persona.
For the first two days of trial, Mr. Adkins represented himself. On the third day, retained attorney Markus Simon appeared on behalf of Mr. Adkins and requested a one- or two-day adjournment so that he could familiarize himself with the case. Mr. Simon explained that he had only been retained the previous afternoon and was not prepared to proceed. He also informed the court that Mr. Adkins was unable to [713]*713read or write as evidenced by Mr. Adkins’ trial notes, which neither he nor Mr. Adkins could read.4
The judge denied Mr. Simon’s request, stating that he felt it was not made in good faith, noting the undesirable effects of a delay. The judge recognized that victims now have a right to a speedy trial of their alleged attacker and that because the trial was already in progress, a delay because of an adjournment was unwarranted. Later that day, Mr. Simon again entered his appearance as Mr. Adkins’ attorney. The court said it would allow him to represent Mr. Adkins as long as he was ready to go forward immediately. The court also ordered Mr. Ellis to remain in the courtroom for consultation.
The jury found Mr. Adkins guilty of five counts of third-degree criminal sexual conduct and one count of unarmed robbery. On May 21, 1991, the court sentenced Mr. Adkins to six ten- to fifteen-year prison terms. Mr. Adkins was represented by Mr. Simon at the sentencing.
Mr. Adkins appealed of right, and, on December 21, 1993, the Court of Appeals affirmed his convictions in an unpublished opinion per curiam (Docket No. 143693). Mr. Adkins applied for leave to appeal to this Court. In lieu of granting leave to appeal, this Court remanded the case to the Court of Appeals for reconsideration in light of People v Dennany, 445 Mich 412; 519 NW2d 128 (1994). 447 Mich 1007 (1994). On remand, on February 15, 1995, the Court of Appeals reversed the convictions, stating:
[714]*714There was no consensus among the justices in Dennany with regard to the consequences of failure to fully follow the court rule and Anderson. However, the main concern expressed in both Anderson and Dennany was that the trial court ensure that the defendant was making a decision to act as his own counsel with his eyes open. The trial court in this case completely failed in that regard. [Unpublished opinion per curiam (Docket No. 180218).][6]
On October 18, 1995, this Court granted plaintiffs application for leave to appeal. 450 Mich 883.
PEOPLE v SUOGS
On November 13, 1985, defendant Ronny Suggs was convicted of three counts of first-degree criminal sexual conduct, MCL 750.520b; MSA 28.788(2), following a jury trial before Detroit Recorder’s Court Judge Thomas E. Jackson. On December 2, 1985, the court sentenced defendant to three concurrent terms of thirty to fifty years. In an opinion per curiam, issued October 26, 1988 (Docket No. 90946), the Court of Appeals reversed Mr. Suggs’ convictions.
Following the reversal of his first conviction,5
6 Mr. Suggs was returned to Detroit Recorder’s Court, and, on February 10, 1989, Craig Daly was appointed to represent him during retrial. Three weeks later, on March 3, 1989, at a pretrial conference, a hearing on a motion for reduction of bond was denied.
On March 17, 1989, Mr. Daly asked to be removed as counsel for Mr. Suggs in view of a letter that Mr. [715]*715Suggs had sent to him and the court, indicating that he did not want Mr. Daly to represent him and that he wanted to represent himself.7 Without further inquiry into the nature of Mr. Suggs’ dissatisfaction with Mr. Daly, and without further inquiry into Mr. Daly’s desire to terminate his representation, the court granted Mr. Daly’s request. The judge did not ask Mr. Suggs about the validity of the letter, nor did he question Mr. Suggs’ desire to proceed in propria persona at this time.8
Immediately before trial began on June 19, 1989, the court questioned Mr. Suggs about his decision to [716]*716proceed pro se.9 This was the defendant’s initial attempt at waiving his right to counsel.
The Court: Understanding, Mr. Moore, that Mr. Suggs wishes to represent himself and proceed in pro per?
Mr Moore: That is my understanding. I present Mr. Suggs to answer that specifically.
The Court: Mr. Suggs?
The Defendant: Yes, this is how the deal is. . . .
After a brief sidetrack, the judge explained to the defendant the rules of self-representation.10
The Court: Let me say there are some rules to play by when you, the same as yourself or anyone acting as a lawyer.
First of all, you are not allowed anymore than what the lawyer is allowed. You don’t get any kind of special privileges when you represent yourself. Part of that, you don’t interrupt the Court when the Court is speaking. I will give you a chance to make your statement and what you have to say. When I respond to them, you sit and be quiet and don’t interrupt me.
More than that, I hope you discuss the issues regarding the rules of evidence and matters of procedure with Mr. Moore to get some guidelines on how to present those and I think we all can save some time on this.
After another sidetrack from the waiver of counsel issue, the judge continued to explain to the defendant his rights.
[717]*717The Court: Let’s proceed with this first and then try to get some of the things straightened out.
The Defendant: Okay.
The Court: Now, you do have the U S Supreme Court by way of the Sixth Amendment that says in the case of [Faretta] v California here, found at [422 US] 806[; 95 S Ct 2525; 45 L Ed 2d 562], a 1975 decision, there is an explicit guarantee for one to represent oneself. It is also found in the Michigan Constitution.
Now there is, and I think there should be some things you should understand, okay.
Do you fully understand you have a right to a have a lawyer represent you throughout the proceedings and if you cannot afford to retain counsel, that the Court will appoint counsel for you?
The Defendant: You asked did I understand?
The Court: Yes.
The Defendant: Yes, I do.
The Court: Now, do you further understand that I must make a determination throughout what would disrupt and inconvenience and unduly burden the Court and the Court’s business, I realize it is that of judgment call and it depends on you conducting yourself in the proper manner. I realize you are not trained in the law and won’t be able to represent yourself the same as a lawyer would represent you. There are some procedure rules and you have to follow the rules.
The Defendant: Yes, I do.
The Court: Do you further understand there is an inherent danger in you representing yourself. Those include not asking proper questions. It may include not being able to make a proper statement or misstatement about the manner in which you represent yourself or cross-examine a witness. There may be a lot of inherent possibilities there in representing yourself. Do you understand that those things do exist and that you will not be able to raise issues, you know, later on that were matters that might have been better handled by an attorney representing you, do you understand that?
The Defendant: Yes, I understand that.
[718]*718The Court: You still wish to represent yourself?
The Defendant: Yes.
Your Honor, you recall when I dismissed the attorney, Mr. Craig Daily [sic], I sent a letter to the Court besides the letter I sent to Craig Daily explaining to the Court why I was dismissing Craig Daily. It’s not that I don’t want an attorney to represent me, it’s just that Craig Daily never spoke to me. I had a trial date and never had a chance to talk to my attorney. I couldn’t understand it, it’s unprofessional.
The Court: Look, I am telling you I do not have a problem with you representing yourself and recognizing the fact that there is case law that says you can. I am also obligated to tell you the problems and pitfalls of that and have you unequivocally indicate on the record you understand those and you do wish to represent yourself.
The Defendant: I understand — I understand what you said, yes.
The Court: Okay, fine. Do you have any other preliminary issues that you want to bring up?
The Defendant: No, Your Honor.
After proceeding in propria persona, Mr. Suggs was again convicted of three counts of first-degree criminal sexual conduct.
After an appeal was submitted, the Court of Appeals entered an order on May 6, 1993 (Docket No. 122775), stating that it could not adequately address the issues without supplemental briefs, addressing the issue whether defendant’s waiver of counsel was sufficient under MCR 6.005(E) and the pertinent case law. The panel also directed both parties to file supplemental briefs addressing this issue.11
[719]*719On January 27, 1994, the Court of Appeals affirmed Mr. Suggs’ conviction, finding no error requiring reversal in the three issues raised. With reference to its May 6 order, the Court observed: “In response to this Court’s order, defendant, through counsel, stated he did not wish to pursue that issue, but, rather, wished to stand on the brief as filed.”12
The defendant filed an application for leave to appeal in this Court, raising the three original appellate issues and two additional issues, improper waiver of counsel and ineffective assistance of appellate counsel. By order dated October 25, 1994, this Court considered the application and remanded the case to the Court of Appeals “for consideration as on rehearing granted.” 447 Mich 994. On remand and rehearing, the Court of Appeals reversed the defendant’s conviction and remanded the case for a third trial because of an improper waiver of counsel.13
On November 21, 1995, this Court granted plaintiff-appellant’s application for leave to appeal, and ordered that this case be argued and submitted to the Court with People v Adkins. 450 Mich 920.
[720]*720ANALYSIS
H
The United States Supreme Court recognizes self-representation as an implicit constitutional right. “The right to defend is given directly to the accused; for it is he who suffers the consequences if the defense fails. ... To thrust counsel upon the accused, against his considered wish, thus violates the logic of the [Sixth] Amendment.” Faretta v California, supra at 819-820. Defendants are also explicitly afforded the right to proceed in propria persona by the Michigan Constitution and state statute. Const 1963, art 1, § 13, MCL 763.1; MSA 28.854.14 This Court, however, has found that a defendant has either a right to counsel or a right to proceed in propria persona, but not both.15 Consequently, there is an unavoidable tension created between two constitutional rights when a defendant chooses self-representation.
Proper compliance with the waiver of counsel procedures set forth by this Court is a necessary antece[721]*721dent to a judicial grant of the right to proceed in propria persona. Proper compliance requires that the court engage, on the record, in a methodical assessment of the wisdom of self-representation by the defendant.16 The defendant must exhibit “an intentional relinquishment or abandonment” of the right to counsel, and the court should “ ‘indulge every reasonable presumption against waiver’ ” of that right. Johnson v Zerbst, 304 US 458, 464; 58 S Ct 1019; 82 L Ed 1461 (1938).
The presumption against waiver is in large part attributable to society’s belief that defendants with legal representation stand a better chance of having a fair trial than people without lawyers.17 “ ‘Presuming waiver from a silent record is impermissible. The record must show, or there must be an allegation and evidence which show, that an accused was offered counsel but intelligently and understandingly rejected the offer. Anything less is not waiver.’ ” People v Dunn, 380 Mich 693, 698; 158 NW2d 404 (1968), citing Carnley v Cochran, 369 US 506, 516; 82 S Ct 884; 8 L Ed 2d 70 (1962). In short, if a judge does not believe the record evidences a proper waiver, the judge should note the reasons for his belief and require counsel to continue to represent the defendant.
After careful review of waiver of counsel case law, this Court extrapolated three main requirements that [722]*722a court must comply with in the waiver of counsel context. People v Anderson, supra at 366-367. First, the defendant’s request must be unequivocal.18 Id. at 367. Second, the defendant must assert his right to self-representation knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily. In assuring a knowing and voluntary waiver, the trial court must make the defendant aware of “the dangers and disadvantages of self-representation, so that the record will establish that he knows what he is doing and his choice is made with eyes open.” Id. at 368. Third, the court must establish that the defendant will not unduly disrupt the court while acting as his own counsel. Id.
In addition to Anderson, judges must satisfy the requirements of MCR 6.005 with respect to a defendant considering self-representation. The purpose of MCR 6.005, like Anderson, is to inform the defendant of the risks of self-representation.19 The rule requires the court to offer the assistance of an attorney and to advise the defendant about the possible punishment for the charged offense.20 Clearly, this Court’s deci[723]*723sion to incorporate these concepts into a court rule indicates their importance in the waiver process. This Court expects that judges will create a record that establishes the trial court’s compliance with the court rules and Anderson during the initial waiver process.21
Application of the waiver of counsel procedures is the duty of the court. The trial judge is in the best position to determine whether the defendant has made the waiver knowingly and voluntarily. United States v Berkowitz, 927 F2d 1376, 1383 (CA 7, 1991). Further, the effectiveness of an attempted waiver does not depend on what the court says, but rather, what the defendant understands.22 Consequently, other facts, such as evidence of a defendant’s intentional manipulation or delay of the court proceedings as a tactical decision may favor a judicial finding of a [724]*724knowing and intelligent waiver. United States v Sandles, 23 F3d 1121, 1129 (CA 7, 1994).23
Waiver of counsel issues arise most often, and are most difficult for judges, in cases in which a defendant is unhappy with his counsel close to the onset, or during the course of, a trial.
Reluctance on the part of many defendants to face the reality on trial day morning that the moment of truth is at hand is a familiar fact of life in the criminal justice system. Experienced trial judges, such as the able judge in this case, are thoroughly familiar and regularly confronted with trial day adjournment requests, advanced for countless reasons and frequently coupled with parallel and conditional requests to discharge counsel and proceed pro se. [Anderson at 375.1
For judges, dealing with such double-edged requests further complicates the already technical process of the waiver of counsel.
The Court recognizes and sympathizes with the Catch 22 judges face in the waiver of counsel setting.24 On the one hand, defendants have a right to counsel. On the other hand, defendants have a right to self-representation. We realize the potential for savvy defendants to use these competing rights as a means of securing an appellate parachute.
[725]*725“We believe that the record in this case unmistakenly shows that defendant understood exactly what he was doing and chose to represent himself while fully aware of his alternatives. To permit a defendant in a criminal case to indulge in the charade of insisting on a right to act as his own attorney and then on appeal to use the very permission to defend himself in pro per as a basis for reversal of conviction and a grant of another trial is to make a mockery of the criminal justice system and the constitutional rights sought to be protected. We would not permit it.” [Dennany at 436, quoting People v Morton, 175 Mich App 1, 8-9; 437 NW2d 284 (1989).]
Consequently, it is the desire of this Court to set forth, through these two cases, the judicial inquiry required before a defendant’s waiver of counsel is justified.
We agree with Justice Boyle’s concurrence in Den-nany that Anderson does not favor a litany approach. See also Guilty Plea Cases, 395 Mich 96; 235 NW2d 132 (1975). We also believe, however, that the substantive requirements in Anderson and the court rule are worthy of attention in every initial waiver of counsel by a criminal defendant. See Dennany. The Anderson and court rule requirements are merely vehicles to ensure that the defendant knowingly and intelligently waived counsel with eyes open. See Anderson and Dennany. A particular court’s method of inquiring into and satisfying these concepts is decidedly up to it, as long as the concepts in these requirements are covered.25
[726]*726We believe the substantial compliance test adopted by the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit in United States v McDowell, 814 F2d 245 (CA 6, 1987), is an effective way to address the waiver of counsel issue. In McDowell, the court advised:
In the future, whenever a federal district judge in this circuit is faced with an accused who wishes to represent himself in criminal proceedings, the model inquiry or one covering the same substantive points along with an express finding that the accused has made a knowing and voluntary waiver of counsel, shall be made on the record prior to allowing the accused to represent himself. [Id. at 250.]
The test “ ‘requires substantial compliance and not literal adherence to the guidelines in the Bench Book.’ ” (1 Bench Book for United States District Court Judges [3d ed].) United States v Miller, 910 F2d 1321, 1324 (CA 6, 1990), quoting McDowell at 252 (Engel, J., concurring).26
We hold, therefore, that trial courts must substantially comply with the aforementioned substantive requirements set forth in both Anderson and MCR 6.005(D). Substantial compliance requires that the court discuss the substance of both Anderson and MCR 6.005(D) in a short colloquy with the defendant, [727]*727and make an express finding that the defendant fully understands, recognizes, and agrees to abide by the waiver of counsel procedures. The nonformalistic nature of a substantial compliance rule affords the protection of a strict compliance rule with far less of the problems associated with requiring courts to engage in a word-for-word litany approach. Further, we believe this standard protects the “vital constitutional rights involved while avoiding the unjustified manipulation which can otherwise throw a real but unnecessary burden on the criminal justice system.” Id. at 252.
Completion of these judicial procedures allows the court to consider a request to proceed in propria persona. If a judge is uncertain regarding whether any of the waiver procedures are met, he should deny the defendant’s request to proceed in propria persona, noting the reasons for the denial on the record. People v Ratliff, 424 Mich 874 (1986). The defendant should then continue to be represented by retained or appointed counsel, unless the judge determines substitute counsel is appropriate.
APPLICATION
m
We hold that the trial courts in both People v Adkins and People v Suggs substantially complied with the waiver of counsel procedures set forth by this Court. The records support the trial courts’ findings that both defendants effectively waived their right to counsel. Therefore, the judicial grants of the defendants’ requests to proceed in propria persona were proper. We reverse the decisions of the Court of Appeals granting the defendants new trials.
[728]*728
ADKINS
A
The record evidences a proper waiver of counsel by the defendant in substantial compliance with the procedures set forth by this Court.
The defendant’s initial waiver of counsel occurred on the .first day of trial. On April 29, 1991, the court determined that substitute counsel would not be appointed. The judge did not dismiss Mr. Ellis, and Mr. Ellis did not move to withdraw from the case. Rather, the judge directed both Mr. Ellis and the defendant to be present and ready to proceed on the first day of trial. The court left open the question what capacity Mr. Ellis would play in the trial proceedings.27 The judge initiated the waiver of counsel procedures on the first day of trial.
The record establishes Mr. Adkins’ unequivocal waiver of his right to counsel. On the first day of trial, the court began the proceedings by asking Mr. Adkins if he was “present in court to represent” himself. The defendant responded in the affirmative. The judge then made reference to the substitution of counsel proceedings:
The Court: Mr. Adkins, we were in court two days ago and you indicated to me that you wished to discharge Mr. Ellis as your attorney, is that correct?
Defendant Adkins: Yes.
The Court: And that you wished to represent yourself?
Defendant Adkins: Yes, I do.
[729]*729The Court: You indicated also that you wanted me to appoint an attorney for you and that you would rely on the services of an appointed attorney, is that correct?
Defendant Adkins: Yes, I did say that, but I think I will go on my own.
The Court: So it is your desire to represent yourself?
Defendant Adkins: Yes, it is. [Emphasis added.]
The defendant clearly and without hesitation acknowledged his desire to represent himself.
Mr. Adkins’ waiver of counsel was also knowing, intelligent, and voluntary. The judge questioned. Mr. Adkins about his education and his previous experiences in other judicial forums. The defendant affirmatively stated that he was voluntarily deciding to represent himself. He also acknowledged that he knew what his waiver signified. The judge indicated to Mr. Adkins that Mr. Ellis would serve as standby counsel.28 The judge explained the function and role of standby counsel to Mr. Adkins. The judge expressed the hazards of self-representation to Mr. Adkins, noting that Mr. Adkins was bound by the judge’s rulings despite the defendant’s lack of schooling in the Rules of Evidence.
The defendant’s behavior is also relevant to our conclusion that he knowingly waived his right to counsel. While evidence of manipulation or delay of the court proceedings does not eliminate the need for other explanations about the hazards of self-representation, it may serve to bolster a trial judge’s [730]*730assessment that a defendant knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily waived his right to counsel. See San-dies, supra. The court believed that the defendant was intentionally stalling and manipulating the courtroom proceedings. Mr. Adkins had never expressed to the court any problems with Mr. Ellis’ representation at any of the numerous pretrial proceedings. When he did express his concerns, two days before trial, he did not provide any good reason to support his desire to replace Mr. Ellis. Further, the judge found the defense’s unsuccessful attempt to move the case to another courtroom right before trial evidence of the defendant’s purposeful manipulation and delay of the proceedings. Consequently, we believe the judicial findings and recorded evidence of defendant’s manipulation bolsters the trial judge’s assessment that the defendant’s waiver was made knowingly.
The judge determined that the defendant would abide by the rules of the courtroom. The judge explained courtroom protocol that Mr. Adkins would be expected to follow. Mr. Adkins agreed to abide by the courtroom protocol explained to him by the judge. The judge told the defendant that Mr. Ellis, as standby counsel, would answer any of his questions concerning the case and trial. The judge asked Mr. Adkins if he was prepared to hire a new lawyer. The defendant said he was not. Finally, the judge made reference to Anderson and noted the reasons he found compliance with each of the Anderson requirements.
We regret the fact that the judge did not make direct reference to the applicable court rule in the waiver context; however, we find that the judge substantially complied with the requirements of MCR [731]*7316.005. Under the version of MCR 6.005 in effect during Mr. Adkins’ trial, the judge was required to comply with the court rule before permitting the defendant to waive his right to counsel. The judge indirectly addressed part 1 of the court rule during his Anderson analysis with the defendant. During that discussion, the judge corrected defendant’s statement, “it is a pretty serious case,” with “[i]t is a very serious case.” Furthermore, the judge had already expressed the nature of the charge and possible punishments to the defendant at his arraignment. The fact that the judge did not specifically address the charged offense and the range of possible punishment is not enough to defeat a finding of substantial compliance with the waiver procedures in this case. The trial court also addressed part 2 of the court rule, concerning the right to counsel, when the judge asked the defendant if he was prepared to hire a new lawyer and when the judge asked the defendant if he still wanted a new lawyer appointed to his case.
In light of this analysis, we believe that the judge substantially complied with the requirements in Anderson and MCR 6.005. We conclude this because the judge conveyed the substance of both Anderson and the court rule to the defendant. Further, the defendant understood these concepts and made the decision to proceed in propria persona, unequivocally and with his eyes open. The grant of a new trial by the Court of Appeals is reversed.
[732]*732
SUGGS
B
The record evidences a proper waiver of counsel by the defendant in substantial compliance with the procedures set forth by this Court.
The trial record evidences the defendant’s unequivocal waiver of counsel. When the court asked Mr. Suggs if his intention was to represent himself, Mr. Suggs answered in the affirmative and immediately began to “try” his case. The court indicated to the defendant that the waiver procedures needed to be finished. The defendant and the court engaged in the following colloquy:
The Court. You still wish to represent yourself?
The Defendant. Yes. Your Honor, you recall when I dismissed the attorney, Mr. Craig Daily, I sent a letter to the Court besides the letter I sent to Craig Daily explaining to the Court why I was dismissing Craig Daily. It’s not that I don’t want an attorney to represent me, it’s just that Craig Daily never spoke to me. I had a trial date and never had a chance to talk to my attorney. I couldn’t understand it, it’s unprofessional.
The Court: Look, I am telling you I do not have a problem with you representing yourself and recognizing the fact that there is case law that says you can. I am also obligated to tell you the problems and pitfalls of that and have you unequivocally indicate on the record you understand those and you do wish to represent yourself.
The Defendant. I understand — I understand what you said, yes.
The Court: Okay, fine.
Although at first glance the defendant’s response indicates hesitation, the trial judge again asked the defendant if he understood that he had to indicate [733]*733unequivocally on the record in order to be allowed to proceed pro se. The defendant indicated that he understood what the judge said. The defendant also responded affirmatively to the judge’s concluding remarks requiring the defendant to clearly indicate whether he wished to represent himself.29 The judge also told the defendant that he had a right to an attorney.
The trial record establishes that the defendant knowingly and voluntarily waived his right to counsel. The court explained to the defendant that he was not schooled in the Rules of Evidence and that Mr. Moore would help him to comply with these rules. The court also warned the defendant about the dangers inherent in self-representation.
Do you further understand there is an inherent danger in you representing yourself. Those include not asking proper questions. It may include not being able to make a proper statement or misstatement about the manner in which you represent yourself or cross-examine a witness. There may be a lot of inherent possibilities there in representing yourself. Do you understand that those things do exist and that you will not be able to raise issues, you know, later on that were matters that might have been better handled by an attorney representing you, do you understand that?
[734]*734The defendant replied, “Yes.”
The defendant’s behavior is also relevant to our conclusion that he knowingly waived his right to counsel. In this case, the record indicates that the defendant proceeded in propria persona, in part, for tactical reasons. While evidence that a defendant chose to proceed in propria persona for a tactical reason does not eliminate the need for other explanations about the hazards of self-representation, it may serve to bolster a trial judge’s assessment that a defendant knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily waived his right to counsel. See Sandies, supra.
In United States v Bell, 901 F2d 574, 579 (CA 7, 1990), the court found that the defendant’s decision to proceed in propria persona for a tactical reason was a relevant factor in establishing that the defendant’s waiver was knowing. In Bell, the defendant’s decision was the result of his attorney’s unwillingness to present an alibi defense. Mr. Suggs’ decision to proceed in propria persona was for a similar reason.
Although we do not have the letter that defendant Suggs sent to the court regarding his dissatisfaction with Mr. Daly, the waiver proceedings lead to the inference that the defendant wanted to provide a consent defense at trial. Throughout the waiver proceedings, the defendant interrupted the court with questions about the presentation of his defense. The defendant apologized to the court for interrupting and assured the judge that he would speak to Mr. Moore “about how better to present the substance of his interruptions.” It appears that the substance of the discussion involved Mr. Suggs’ unsuccessful attempt to establish that the victim had an abortion. The defendant’s theory was that he was a scapegoat for [735]*735the victim’s unwanted pregnancy. Consequently, we believe the defendant’s preparation of his consent defense bolsters the trial judge’s assessment that the defendant’s waiver was knowingly made.
The record establishes that the court made a thoughtful inquiry into the defendant’s ability to abide by courtroom procedures. The judge explained the courtroom protocol that Mr. Suggs would be expected to follow.
Now, do you further understand that I must make a determination throughout what would disrupt and inconvenience and unduly burden the Court and the Court’s business, I realize it is that of judgment call and it depends on you conducting yourself in the proper manner. I realize you are not trained in the law and won’t be able to represent yourself the same as a lawyer would represent you. There are some procedure rules and you have to follow the rules.
The defendant responded that he understood and agreed to abide by the courtroom procedure.
We recognize that the judge did not note his reasons for finding a proper waiver as did the court in Adkins. However, in light of both the defendant’s eagerness to proceed with his case as a tactical decision and the thorough judicial compliance with the other procedures, the judge’s oversight in this matter is also not enough to defeat a finding of substantial compliance with the waiver of counsel procedures in this case.
The trial court substantially complied with MCR 6.101(C)(3), the waiver of counsel court rule at the [736]*736time of the defendant’s trial.30 At sentencing, the judge indicated to the defendant that he had the right to counsel on appeal and strongly advised the defendant to consider exercising this right. The fact that the judge did not have the defendant reaffirm his right to counsel before sentencing is not enough to defeat a finding of substantial compliance with the waiver of counsel procedures in this case.
In light of this analysis, we believe that the judge substantially complied with the requirements of Anderson and MCR 6.005. We conclude this because the judge conveyed the substance of both Anderson and the court rule to the defendant. Further, the defendant understood these concepts and made the decision to proceed in propria persona unequivocally and with his eyes open. The grant of a new trial by the Court of Appeals is reversed.
[737]*737conclusion
In light of this analysis, the Court of Appeals decisions granting new trials in Adkins and Suggs are reversed and the convictions reinstated.
Brickley, C.J., and Boyle, Riley, and Weaver, JJ., concurred with Mallett, J.