22CA0230 Peo v McCaughin 07-10-2025
COLORADO COURT OF APPEALS
Court of Appeals No. 22CA0230 Arapahoe County District Court No. 19CR1368 Honorable Elizabeth Weishaupl, Judge
The People of the State of Colorado,
Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
Joseph Dean McCaughin,
Defendant-Appellant.
JUDGMENT REVERSED AND CASE REMANDED WITH DIRECTIONS
Division VI Opinion by JUDGE SULLIVAN Tow and Yun, JJ., concur
NOT PUBLISHED PURSUANT TO C.A.R. 35(e) Announced July 10, 2025
Philip J. Weiser, Attorney General, Paul Koehler, Senior Counsel, Denver, Colorado, for Plaintiff-Appellee
Megan A. Ring, Colorado State Public Defender, Stephen Arvin, Deputy State Public Defender, Denver, Colorado, for Defendant-Appellant ¶1 Defendant, Joseph Dean McCaughin, appeals the judgment of
conviction entered on a jury verdict finding him guilty of first degree
extreme indifference murder. We reverse and remand for a new
trial.
I. Background
¶2 McCaughin shot and killed the victim, R.R., at a park during a
confrontation among McCaughin, R.R., and two of R.R.’s friends.
The prosecution’s theory of the case was that McCaughin shot R.R.
out of jealousy because R.R. was dating his former girlfriend.
McCaughin asserted he acted in self-defense, claiming that he
feared R.R. and his friends wanted to “jump” him.
¶3 According to McCaughin, one of R.R.’s friends brandished a
knife while R.R. made a quick movement toward his waistband as if
to reach for a gun. Seeing this, McCaughin fired his pistol multiple
times in R.R.’s direction, killing him. Families with children were
nearby in the park within McCaughin’s general line of fire. No gun
was found on R.R.
¶4 At trial, McCaughin testified in his own defense. He said he
went to a donut shop the day before the shooting where he
1 encountered R.R. and his friends, one of whom threatened him by
saying, “We’ll be seeing you again.”
¶5 McCaughin also testified that R.R. sent him threatening videos
later that night from McCaughin’s former girlfriend’s Snapchat
account.1 In McCaughin’s telling, R.R. can be seen in the videos,
alongside McCaughin’s former girlfriend, “cussing and threatening”
McCaughin. McCaughin testified that R.R. threatened him in one of
the videos by saying, “When I catch you, what’s up, fuck you, when
I see you, it’s smoke.” The prosecutor objected on hearsay grounds,
arguing that McCaughin was offering R.R.’s comment for the truth
of the matter asserted. Defense counsel countered that R.R.’s
comment wasn’t being offered for its truth but rather for its effect
on McCaughin as the listener — specifically, how McCaughin felt
threatened.
¶6 The district court sustained the prosecutor’s objection,
concluding that McCaughin was offering R.R.’s comment for its
1 Snapchat is a mobile application that allows cell phone users to
send photos and videos to their friends or contacts. People in Interest of R.C., 2016 COA 166, ¶ 3 n.1. Typically, once the photo or video is sent to another person and viewed, it automatically deletes within a few seconds. Id.
2 truth and that it therefore constituted inadmissible hearsay. As a
result, the court struck McCaughin’s previous answer and
instructed the jury to disregard it. The court ruled that it would
allow McCaughin to testify about the feelings the videos evoked so
long as he stayed away from the specifics of R.R.’s comment.
¶7 A short time later, however, defense counsel attempted to elicit
testimony from McCaughin that he felt concerned that R.R. might
try to hurt him “[b]ecause of the videos that were sent.” The
prosecutor renewed his objection, arguing that McCaughin’s “only
basis for being scared is based on hearsay,” so he couldn’t testify to
the feelings that the hearsay evoked. The court sustained the
objection, struck McCaughin’s response, and again instructed the
jury to disregard his answer.
¶8 As relevant to this appeal, and consistent with its prior
hearsay rulings, the court sustained two other objections by the
prosecutor. First, defense counsel asked McCaughin, “And you
were also concerned that he might have a gun based on kind of
what had happened the night before?” When McCaughin answered
“yes,” the prosecution objected on the same grounds as before. The
court sustained the objection. Second, the prosecution objected
3 again when McCaughin testified that he shot R.R., in part, because
of the “threats [R.R.] made the night before.” Once again, the court
struck McCaughin’s response about the “threats the night before”
and instructed the jury to disregard his answer.
¶9 Later the same day, outside the jury’s presence but before
McCaughin’s testimony had concluded, defense counsel made an
offer of proof regarding McCaughin’s excluded testimony. He
explained that McCaughin would have testified that he
(1) interpreted R.R.’s use of “smoke” as a reference to a gun or
“gunplay” and (2) believed, based on the comment, that R.R.
possessed a gun while at the park the following day.
¶ 10 McCaughin also testified that one of R.R.’s friends called him
names while at the park, causing him to feel threatened. During
the prosecutor’s cross-examination of McCaughin, McCaughin
conceded that name-calling alone isn’t sufficient to justify deadly
physical force in self-defense. McCaughin also admitted that R.R.
hadn’t explicitly threatened to shoot him in the moments just before
McCaughin fired his pistol. Although the prosecutor asked
McCaughin about the alleged Snapchat videos, he didn’t allow
4 McCaughin to relay what R.R. had said or how McCaughin
interpreted R.R.’s comment.
¶ 11 In closing argument, the prosecutor emphasized that the court
had excluded evidence of the Snapchat videos, so they couldn’t be
considered when assessing McCaughin’s claim of self-defense. The
following remarks are illustrative:
• “[O]ne of the biggest deceits of all is when he tells you
that Snapchats were sent to him that evening. . . . But
more importantly, these Snapchats did not come into
evidence. . . . [Y]ou don’t know what was in the
Snapchats. . . . [Y]ou can’t assess if his scaredness is a
result of something reasonable.”
• “When the [d]efense stands up here and asks you, ‘Well,
remember the Snapchats,’ they are asking you to
speculate because there is zero evidence of what these
Snapchats were . . . . There’s a reason certain evidence
does not come into trial, and this is not something you
should consider.”
• “He wasn’t scared. He has shown that he wasn’t scared
because he was going toe-to-toe with [R.R].”
5 • “[T]here are no actual verbal threats said. . . . [R.R.]
doesn’t once say, ‘I’m gonna come kick your ass.’ [R.R.]
doesn’t once say, ‘I’m gonna pull a gun.’”
¶ 12 The jury found McCaughin guilty of first degree extreme
indifference murder and second degree murder, but it acquitted him
of attempted first degree murder. The court merged the second
degree murder conviction into the first degree murder conviction
and sentenced McCaughin to life in prison without the possibility of
parole.
II. Discussion
¶ 13 McCaughin raises several contentions on appeal, including
that the district court erred by excluding McCaughin’s testimony
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22CA0230 Peo v McCaughin 07-10-2025
COLORADO COURT OF APPEALS
Court of Appeals No. 22CA0230 Arapahoe County District Court No. 19CR1368 Honorable Elizabeth Weishaupl, Judge
The People of the State of Colorado,
Plaintiff-Appellee,
v.
Joseph Dean McCaughin,
Defendant-Appellant.
JUDGMENT REVERSED AND CASE REMANDED WITH DIRECTIONS
Division VI Opinion by JUDGE SULLIVAN Tow and Yun, JJ., concur
NOT PUBLISHED PURSUANT TO C.A.R. 35(e) Announced July 10, 2025
Philip J. Weiser, Attorney General, Paul Koehler, Senior Counsel, Denver, Colorado, for Plaintiff-Appellee
Megan A. Ring, Colorado State Public Defender, Stephen Arvin, Deputy State Public Defender, Denver, Colorado, for Defendant-Appellant ¶1 Defendant, Joseph Dean McCaughin, appeals the judgment of
conviction entered on a jury verdict finding him guilty of first degree
extreme indifference murder. We reverse and remand for a new
trial.
I. Background
¶2 McCaughin shot and killed the victim, R.R., at a park during a
confrontation among McCaughin, R.R., and two of R.R.’s friends.
The prosecution’s theory of the case was that McCaughin shot R.R.
out of jealousy because R.R. was dating his former girlfriend.
McCaughin asserted he acted in self-defense, claiming that he
feared R.R. and his friends wanted to “jump” him.
¶3 According to McCaughin, one of R.R.’s friends brandished a
knife while R.R. made a quick movement toward his waistband as if
to reach for a gun. Seeing this, McCaughin fired his pistol multiple
times in R.R.’s direction, killing him. Families with children were
nearby in the park within McCaughin’s general line of fire. No gun
was found on R.R.
¶4 At trial, McCaughin testified in his own defense. He said he
went to a donut shop the day before the shooting where he
1 encountered R.R. and his friends, one of whom threatened him by
saying, “We’ll be seeing you again.”
¶5 McCaughin also testified that R.R. sent him threatening videos
later that night from McCaughin’s former girlfriend’s Snapchat
account.1 In McCaughin’s telling, R.R. can be seen in the videos,
alongside McCaughin’s former girlfriend, “cussing and threatening”
McCaughin. McCaughin testified that R.R. threatened him in one of
the videos by saying, “When I catch you, what’s up, fuck you, when
I see you, it’s smoke.” The prosecutor objected on hearsay grounds,
arguing that McCaughin was offering R.R.’s comment for the truth
of the matter asserted. Defense counsel countered that R.R.’s
comment wasn’t being offered for its truth but rather for its effect
on McCaughin as the listener — specifically, how McCaughin felt
threatened.
¶6 The district court sustained the prosecutor’s objection,
concluding that McCaughin was offering R.R.’s comment for its
1 Snapchat is a mobile application that allows cell phone users to
send photos and videos to their friends or contacts. People in Interest of R.C., 2016 COA 166, ¶ 3 n.1. Typically, once the photo or video is sent to another person and viewed, it automatically deletes within a few seconds. Id.
2 truth and that it therefore constituted inadmissible hearsay. As a
result, the court struck McCaughin’s previous answer and
instructed the jury to disregard it. The court ruled that it would
allow McCaughin to testify about the feelings the videos evoked so
long as he stayed away from the specifics of R.R.’s comment.
¶7 A short time later, however, defense counsel attempted to elicit
testimony from McCaughin that he felt concerned that R.R. might
try to hurt him “[b]ecause of the videos that were sent.” The
prosecutor renewed his objection, arguing that McCaughin’s “only
basis for being scared is based on hearsay,” so he couldn’t testify to
the feelings that the hearsay evoked. The court sustained the
objection, struck McCaughin’s response, and again instructed the
jury to disregard his answer.
¶8 As relevant to this appeal, and consistent with its prior
hearsay rulings, the court sustained two other objections by the
prosecutor. First, defense counsel asked McCaughin, “And you
were also concerned that he might have a gun based on kind of
what had happened the night before?” When McCaughin answered
“yes,” the prosecution objected on the same grounds as before. The
court sustained the objection. Second, the prosecution objected
3 again when McCaughin testified that he shot R.R., in part, because
of the “threats [R.R.] made the night before.” Once again, the court
struck McCaughin’s response about the “threats the night before”
and instructed the jury to disregard his answer.
¶9 Later the same day, outside the jury’s presence but before
McCaughin’s testimony had concluded, defense counsel made an
offer of proof regarding McCaughin’s excluded testimony. He
explained that McCaughin would have testified that he
(1) interpreted R.R.’s use of “smoke” as a reference to a gun or
“gunplay” and (2) believed, based on the comment, that R.R.
possessed a gun while at the park the following day.
¶ 10 McCaughin also testified that one of R.R.’s friends called him
names while at the park, causing him to feel threatened. During
the prosecutor’s cross-examination of McCaughin, McCaughin
conceded that name-calling alone isn’t sufficient to justify deadly
physical force in self-defense. McCaughin also admitted that R.R.
hadn’t explicitly threatened to shoot him in the moments just before
McCaughin fired his pistol. Although the prosecutor asked
McCaughin about the alleged Snapchat videos, he didn’t allow
4 McCaughin to relay what R.R. had said or how McCaughin
interpreted R.R.’s comment.
¶ 11 In closing argument, the prosecutor emphasized that the court
had excluded evidence of the Snapchat videos, so they couldn’t be
considered when assessing McCaughin’s claim of self-defense. The
following remarks are illustrative:
• “[O]ne of the biggest deceits of all is when he tells you
that Snapchats were sent to him that evening. . . . But
more importantly, these Snapchats did not come into
evidence. . . . [Y]ou don’t know what was in the
Snapchats. . . . [Y]ou can’t assess if his scaredness is a
result of something reasonable.”
• “When the [d]efense stands up here and asks you, ‘Well,
remember the Snapchats,’ they are asking you to
speculate because there is zero evidence of what these
Snapchats were . . . . There’s a reason certain evidence
does not come into trial, and this is not something you
should consider.”
• “He wasn’t scared. He has shown that he wasn’t scared
because he was going toe-to-toe with [R.R].”
5 • “[T]here are no actual verbal threats said. . . . [R.R.]
doesn’t once say, ‘I’m gonna come kick your ass.’ [R.R.]
doesn’t once say, ‘I’m gonna pull a gun.’”
¶ 12 The jury found McCaughin guilty of first degree extreme
indifference murder and second degree murder, but it acquitted him
of attempted first degree murder. The court merged the second
degree murder conviction into the first degree murder conviction
and sentenced McCaughin to life in prison without the possibility of
parole.
II. Discussion
¶ 13 McCaughin raises several contentions on appeal, including
that the district court erred by excluding McCaughin’s testimony
regarding R.R.’s threatening comment in one of the Snapchat videos
and the feelings the videos evoked. Because our resolution of this
issue is dispositive, we need not reach McCaughin’s remaining
contentions.
A. Standard of Review and Applicable Law
¶ 14 We review a district court’s evidentiary rulings for an abuse of
discretion. People v. Meils, 2019 COA 180, ¶ 11. A court abuses its
discretion when its ruling is manifestly arbitrary, unreasonable, or
6 unfair, or based on an erroneous understanding or application of
the law. People v. Scott, 2021 COA 71, ¶ 23.
¶ 15 Because McCaughin preserved his evidentiary challenge, we
review any error in the court’s ruling for nonconstitutional harmless
error. Hagos v. People, 2012 CO 63, ¶ 12. Under this standard, we
will reverse only if a reasonable probability exists that the court’s
error contributed to the defendant’s conviction. People v. Roman,
2017 CO 70, ¶ 13.
¶ 16 Hearsay is “a statement other than one made by the declarant
while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove
the truth of the matter asserted.” CRE 801(c). Absent an
exception, hearsay is generally inadmissible. CRE 802. But if an
out-of-court statement isn’t offered for its truth, the statement is
admissible as nonhearsay evidence so long as the statement is
relevant. People v. Van Meter, 2018 COA 13, ¶ 64. An out-of-court
statement offered solely to show its effect on the listener, for
example, isn’t hearsay. People v. Knapp, 2020 COA 107, ¶ 36. The
proponent’s purpose for offering the statement, not the details
reflected in the statement, determines whether the statement is
7 hearsay. People v. Robinson, 226 P.3d 1145, 1152 (Colo. App.
2009).
B. Analysis
¶ 17 We conclude that the district court erred by excluding
McCaughin’s testimony regarding R.R.’s comment in one of the
Snapchat videos and the feelings the videos evoked. We further
conclude that a reasonable probability exists that the court’s error
contributed to McCaughin’s conviction.
1. The Error
¶ 18 Defense counsel argued that he was offering R.R.’s comment
not for its truth — that R.R. actually threatened McCaughin or
intended to harm him — but rather for its effect on McCaughin. In
particular, defense counsel said that McCaughin would testify that
he (1) interpreted “smoke” to mean “gun” or “gunplay” based on
others’ past references to “smoke”; (2) reasonably believed that R.R.
had a gun; and (3) felt threatened by R.R.’s comment.
¶ 19 We agree with McCaughin that R.R.’s comment wasn’t offered
for its truth because its relevance didn’t turn on whether the
comment was true or not. Rather, R.R.’s uttering of the comment
and the apprehension of danger it produced in McCaughin are what
8 mattered. As a result, R.R.’s comment was admissible as
nonhearsay to show its effect on McCaughin as the listener. See
Robinson, 226 P.3d at 1152; see also Knapp, ¶ 37 (declarant’s out-
of-court statement calling the defendant a “wife beater” was
admissible as nonhearsay to show its enraging effect on the
defendant); People v. Flores, 539 P.2d 1236, 1237 (Colo. 1975)
(reversing conviction where evidence regarding decedent’s prior acts
of violence should have been admitted as nonhearsay “in support of
the defendant’s self-defense theory to establish his fear of the
decedent”).
¶ 20 The People argue otherwise, asserting that McCaughin’s “only
interest” in admitting the comment was for its truth — namely, that
R.R. “in fact threatened” McCaughin. But well-settled law backed
up defense counsel’s stated nonhearsay purpose. Indeed, in self-
defense cases, a threatening statement communicated by the
person killed or assaulted isn’t hearsay “[i]f offered to show the
defendant’s reasonable apprehension of danger.” 2 Kenneth S.
Broun et al., McCormick on Evidence § 249, Westlaw (Robert P.
Mosteller ed., 9th ed. database updated Feb. 2025); see also Flores,
539 P.2d at 1237; Hirsch v. State, 697 N.E.2d 37, 40-41 (Ind. 1998)
9 (victim’s statement that he refused to stop fighting was admissible
as nonhearsay to show the defendant’s reasonable apprehension of
death or great bodily harm); State v. Hendrix, 699 S.W.2d 779, 781
(Mo. Ct. App. 1985) (“[W]here self-defense is an issue, evidence of
communicated and uncommunicated threats made by the victim of
an assault or murder are admissible in evidence to explain the
conduct and apprehension of the defendant . . . .”).
¶ 21 To the extent the prosecution harbored concerns that the jury
might misuse the evidence for an improper purpose, its remedy was
to seek an appropriate limiting instruction, not wholesale exclusion
of the evidence. See Robinson, 226 P.3d at 1153 (citing CRE 105).
¶ 22 Accordingly, we conclude that the district court abused its
discretion by sustaining the prosecution’s hearsay objections.
2. The Remedy
¶ 23 Having concluded that the court erred, we must determine
whether the error requires reversal. Based on the record and
briefing before us, we aren’t persuaded that the People have proved
that the court’s error was harmless. See James v. People, 2018 CO
72, ¶ 19. On the contrary, two central themes pressed by the
prosecution were that (1) McCaughin unreasonably believed, or
10 didn’t believe, that R.R. had a gun; and (2) based on the admitted
evidence, McCaughin’s asserted fear of R.R. was unsubstantiated
and not credible.
¶ 24 While cross-examining McCaughin, for example, the
prosecutor emphasized that “something more” than mere name-
calling is necessary to justify self-defense. McCaughin agreed, but
by that point the court had already prohibited him from mentioning
what “more” existed: R.R.’s threatening comment. The prosecutor
also succeeded in getting McCaughin to admit that, at the time of
the shooting, R.R. hadn’t verbalized, “I’m going to shoot you.”
Without the added context of R.R.’s threatening comment from one
day earlier, this testimony significantly strengthened the
prosecution’s position that McCaughin acted unreasonably by
shooting R.R. See Castillo v. People, 2018 CO 62, ¶ 38 (the
“touchstone of self-defense” is the defendant’s reasonable belief that
defensive force is necessary).
¶ 25 The prosecution continued its themes in closing argument,
again leveraging the excluded evidence to argue that McCaughin
acted unreasonably. The prosecutor repeatedly emphasized, among
other things, that the Snapchat videos hadn’t been admitted into
11 evidence, that the jury couldn’t consider the Snapchat videos when
evaluating the reasonableness of McCaughin’s actions, that
McCaughin wasn’t scared of R.R., and that no evidence suggested
that R.R. had said “‘I’m gonna pull a gun” or had otherwise verbally
threatened McCaughin.
¶ 26 Given the prosecution’s heavy reliance on the absence of R.R.’s
threatening comment, we conclude that a reasonable probability
exists that the court’s erroneous hearsay rulings contributed to
McCaughin’s conviction. See Roman, ¶ 13.
¶ 27 In arguing that the error was harmless, the People contend
that McCaughin was still able to testify that he generally felt
threatened by (1) the Snapchat videos and (2) the conduct of R.R.
and his friends during the events leading up to the shooting. We
aren’t so sure. On three separate occasions, McCaughin attempted
to explain, without using R.R.’s exact words, how he felt concerned
and threatened based on the events that occurred the night before
the shooting. The prosecutor objected each time. The court
sustained the objections and, in two instances, explicitly struck
McCaughin’s responses and instructed the jury to disregard his
12 answers. We presume that the jury followed the court’s
instructions. People v. Tillery, 231 P.3d 36, 43 (Colo. App. 2009).
¶ 28 In addition, the court’s hearsay rulings effectively precluded
the jury from hearing any evidence about R.R.’s specific “smoke”
comment and why McCaughin interpreted it as a threat with a gun.
Without the concrete details of R.R.’s threatening comment, the jury
couldn’t fully assess the reasonableness of McCaughin’s belief that
R.R. had a gun and posed an imminent danger that justified the
use of deadly physical force. See § 18-1-704(2), C.R.S. 2024; People
v. Schnorenberg, 2025 CO 43, ¶¶ 54-55 (erroneous exclusion of the
defendant’s testimony regarding his securities lawyer’s advice
wasn’t harmless because, although the defendant could testify in
“general terms” about the advice, what his lawyer “actually told
him” was central to his defense that he lacked the required mental
state). At minimum, the jury may well have viewed McCaughin’s
defensive actions through a different lens — and found them
reasonable — had it been fully apprised of R.R.’s threat from the
day before. See People v. Degrave, 2023 IL App (1st) 192479, ¶ 56
(“The reasonableness of the defendant’s actions vis-à-vis the alleged
victim might be cast in a different light if the defendant knew of the
13 victim’s proclivity toward violence.”). And because reasonableness
is the “touchstone” of self-defense, Castillo, ¶ 38, we can’t say that
the court’s error in excluding R.R.’s threatening comment was
harmless.
¶ 29 The People also argue that the court’s error in truncating
McCaughin’s self-defense claim was rendered harmless because the
jury found him guilty of first degree extreme indifference murder.
To support this argument, the People rely on the supreme court’s
statement in People v. Pickering, 276 P.3d 553, 556 (Colo. 2011),
that acts committed with extreme indifference “are ‘totally
inconsistent’ with self-defense.” Id. (citation omitted). But the
Pickering court made clear that a defendant may assert self-defense
as an element-negating traverse in cases involving extreme
indifference crimes. Id. Given this, a court’s error in curtailing a
defendant’s self-defense claim isn’t insulated from reversal simply
14 because the jury found the defendant guilty of an extreme
indifference crime.2
¶ 30 Accordingly, because the court abused its discretion by
excluding evidence of R.R.’s comment and its error wasn’t harmless,
we reverse the judgment of conviction and remand the case for a
new trial. We need not address McCaughin’s remaining contentions
since they may not arise on remand. See People v. Cook, 197 P.3d
269, 277 (Colo. App. 2008).
III. Disposition
¶ 31 McCaughin’s conviction for first degree extreme indifference
murder is reversed, and the case is remanded for a new trial.
JUDGE TOW and JUDGE YUN concur.
2 Although our analysis focuses on the court’s error in truncating
McCaughin’s self-defense claim as it pertains to the first degree extreme indifference murder charge, we note that the court’s error also isn’t harmless as it relates to the second degree murder charge. See People v. Pickering, 276 P.3d 553, 555 (Colo. 2011) (self-defense is an affirmative defense to second degree murder).