Orman v. State

3 S.W. 468, 22 Tex. Ct. App. 604, 1886 Tex. Crim. App. LEXIS 296
CourtCourt of Appeals of Texas
DecidedDecember 17, 1886
DocketNo. 2263
StatusPublished
Cited by2 cases

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Orman v. State, 3 S.W. 468, 22 Tex. Ct. App. 604, 1886 Tex. Crim. App. LEXIS 296 (Tex. Ct. App. 1886).

Opinion

Hurt, Judge.

Appellant was convicted of murder of the second degree and sentenced to the penitentiary for fourteen years, for the killing of W. E. Houghston, in the city of Waco, on the eighth day of September, 1885.

We will here insert such facts as will present in a clear light the first error assigned by counsel for appellant. Appellant was a man of family, having a wife, mother and sister. He was a saloon keeper, and his residence was about the distance of one [614]*614block from his saloon. Deceased was a hack driver, and it appears was living with a negro woman. Appellant and deceased were upon friendly terms, and were heard to joke each other a short while before the day of the killing.

Early in the morning, between five or six and nine o’clock of the day of the killing, the deceased went to the saloon of appellant two or three times, looking for appellant, and stated openly, boldly, loudly and repeatedly, so that the persons doing business near appellant’s saloon heard him, that appellant had accused him of lying up with a negro woman; that appellant was a d—d son of a b—h, and that he intended to kill appellant before twelve o’clock that day; that said negro woman was as good as appellant’s mother and sister, and that appellant’s mother and sister were negro f—k—ng bitches, and that they had in this way accumulated and made all the property that appellant had. Deceased had a pistol with which he said he was going to do appellant up. He said: “We hack drivers are hell when we get started, and we’II do what we say we will.”

On one of the occasions spoken of, deceased drove up to appellant’s saloon with two negroes in his hack, and said those negroes had had sexual intercourse with appellant’s mother and sister, and that he was going to make them tell appellant so. Deceased drove by appellant’s residence and drove near the house and looked in, and appeared to be mad, and was holding his lines in his left hand, with a pistol in his right hand by the side of his right leg. He passed by, and was soon seen by another witness, still having the pistol down by the side of his leg. He soon returned, and as he was passing by appellant’s residence, holding his reins in his left hand, with his right hand down by his side, on the opposite side from appellant, he met appellant, who was going from his saloon to his residence, and appellant asked deceased if he would take back what he had said about his mother and sister. Deceased said “ Ho,” and at that moment appellant was seen to throw up his left hand, and then the shooting occurred. Deceased received two shots, from which he instantly died. The horses ran away with the hack of deceased. There was a woman in- the hack.

After deceased went to appellant’s saloon, as before stated, in appellant’s absence, appellant went from his home to the saloon —about nine o’clock—and ordered his breakfast. (There was a restaurant in connection with the saloon.) He sat down to eat his breakfast, and just as he sat down he was told that the [615]*615deceased had been there looking for him, and was also told that deceased said his (appellant’s) mother and sister were negro f—k—ng bitches, and that they had made in that way all the property appellant had.

Appellant got up without eating his breakfast and said: 15 No man can say that about my mother and sister and live.” He sat down behind the counter with his face in his hands, and appeared to be crying and in trouble. He ,then went out, and a while afterwards came back and got his pistol and put it in his pocket. After appellant was informed of what deceased had said about his mother and sister he went to consult his attorney (M. D. Herring) about the matter, concerning what the punishment would be for killing in such cases. He appeared to be intensely excited—more so than the attorney had ever seen him before, and he had known him from his childhood. He told his attorney what Houghston had said about his mother and sister, as before stated, and asked him what the law was if he killed Houghston. The attorney read him the statute concerning killing, upon the use of insulting words towards a female relative, and advised him to have no trouble with Houghston. He said that was all he wanted to know and started away with his eyes filled with tears. The killing occurred soon afterwards. Appellant went to the court house and surrendered himself immediately after the killing.

M. D. Herring was called as a witness for the State while he was conducting the defense on the trial of the case, and, over objections of defendant, testified, in substance, as follows: Appellant came to my office on the morning of the killing and said he wanted to consult me privately, and requested my law partner, Mr. Kelley, to step into the other room of our office,«which he did. Appellant appeared to be intensely excited—more so than I had ever seen him before. I had known him from his childhood. He told me that he had just heard that deceased, Houghston, had been to his, appellant’s, saloon and said that his, appellant’s, mother and sister were whores, and that they had been cohabiting (he used a vulgar phrase) with negroes, and that they made in that way all appellant had, and asked me what the law was if he killed Houghston. I then read him the statute of the State concerning killing upon the use of insulting words toward a female relative, and I advised him not to have any trouble with Houghston, that he was a trifling, worthless fellow. Appellant then got up to leave, saying that was all he [616]*616wanted to know, and, as he started off, I noticed that his eyes were filled with tears, and I again, and then again, advised him to have no trouble with Houghston, that he, appellant, had had trouble enough; but he paid no attention to me, but went away. Soon after I started out to pay some dues at the T. B. A. office, and while on the street saw a runaway carriage and horses, and immediately thereafter learned that appellant had killed Houghston.

This evidence was objected to because the consultation with witness, and his advice thereon, was privileged, because appellant consulted witness as his attorney and confidential ad-visor.

Was the evidence of M. D. Herring, under the surrounding facts, privileged communications, and hence not competent?

“ Communications from clients to attorneys are privileged op the ground of public policy, with a view to the safe and proper administration of justice. The protection is not qualified by any reference to proceedings pending or in contemplation. It is adopted out of regard to the interest of justice, and from the necessity of free, unrestrained intercourse between counsel and client. It is better in our judgment to adhere to the rule in a broad and liberal sense, than to weaken its force by exceptions.’ (Crisler v. Garland, 2 S. & M., 136.)

After a very careful examination of all the authorities accessible to us, we are led to the conclusion that the above rule applies alone to civil cases. What, therefore, is the rule in criminal cases? In The Queen v. Cox, decided on December 20, 1884 (5 Am. Crim. Rep., 140), most, if not all, the English cases bearing upon the question at issue were cited and commented upon by the court. In that case Judge Stevens wrote a very lengthy opinion, very carefully comparing the decisions which had before been made upon this subject. In a great many cases he gives a concise statement of the facts under which the question was presented, and from his opinion and the cases therein cited we state the following as the rules:

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